What do you interpret as the difference between a flex and a versatile bottom?

[Guest Starbux]

Dumbfounded.  Would you mind sharing some examples of VB you've met?  Thanks.

[lovehandle]

r u asking about the term/definition, if in theory there is no difference in the 2 words, flex or vers
they ref to the exact same
 

never if u r refer to the local scene
to me a flex or vers in reality is clearly 79-99% a bottom,  just for naming wise they dont wish to appear as a btm
In fact they r clearly one , they will have tons of excuses
nevermind give it to them instantly they will btm for u (else who told u so sorry hor, today i feel like topping ONLY is cos u r not their cup of tea, hence this is a polite way to just reject another person, still a btm for me)


Maybe China Chinese, but not many around : they really find bottoming is ok, they can F someone and the next moment let u do it on them , but a bit dead fish , lol (maybe tired)


how about any other forms/way to check on them?
Of cos there r (only i use this method)
- look at BW 's page on show your undies and penises 

Usu those who hve shown their penises and their undies (as well) frontally, is definitely a top
a btm will tend to show the perkiness or its buttock area (even though his profile clearly indicated a flex/vers)
no top will overly focus on his buttocks (even though he trained them up in the gym), he could be wearing a pair of trunks or whatever, but the focus is to emphasize his brotherhood
 

[Guest BriefsGuy]

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Edited May 10, 2019 by BriefsGuy

[bluefish20008]

17 hours ago, -Ignored- said:

r u asking about the term/definition, if in theory there is no difference in the 2 words, flex or vers
they ref to the exact same
 

never if u r refer to the local scene
to me a flex or vers in reality is clearly 79-99% a bottom,  just for naming wise they dont wish to appear as a btm
In fact they r clearly one , they will have tons of excuses
nevermind give it to them instantly they will btm for u (else who told u so sorry hor, today i feel like topping ONLY is cos u r not their cup of tea, hence this is a polite way to just reject another person, still a btm for me)


Maybe China Chinese, but not many around : they really find bottoming is ok, they can F someone and the next moment let u do it on them , but a bit dead fish , lol (maybe tired)


how about any other forms/way to check on them?
Of cos there r (only i use this method)
- look at BW 's page on show your undies and penises 

Usu those who hve shown their penises and their undies (as well) frontally, is definitely a top
a btm will tend to show the perkiness or its buttock area (even though his profile clearly indicated a flex/vers)
no top will overly focus on his buttocks (even though he trained them up in the gym), he could be wearing a pair of trunks or whatever, but the focus is to emphasize his brotherhood
 

 

How about wearing jockstrap?

[lovehandle]

8 minutes ago, bluefish20008 said:

 

How about wearing jockstrap?

To me, the only time a man shd wear a jockstrap is cos they r playing certain rough sports

 

a top or a man will never need extra support to enhance their “behinds”

a woman yes! A btm yes! A flex yes

 

which is why since beginning without end, men all along wear loose boxers or nothing 

they felt so comfy in those items at all time

 

but era has changed, once a blue moon, some liked to try jockstraps but never for me!

i will rather kill myself than to wear1

 

every fashion apparels fr the accessories to protect our crown jwel must serve a good function, if nt it defeats it all

 

creativy: utility + originality

[fab]

a flex is 0.5

a versatile bottom is 0.25

[lonelyglobe]

Yap no difference, same same...both ended up want to kena fuck.

[killerwhale]

0 = pure bottom

0.25 = versatile bottom

0.5 =  flexible

0.75 = versatile top

1 = pure top

[Guest TopGun]

Btm in denial.

[Guest lala]

from experience, most who claim they are Vers Btm are just Btm.

 

they only look for guys who are tops.

[fab]

1 hour ago, Guest lala said:

from experience, most who claim they are Vers Btm are just Btm.

 

they only look for guys who are tops.

 

人家害臊嘛

[Guest Masc btm]

Even for a slut bottom like me, I die die must say I'm versatile. It's two sided. People expect me to be top so at least must not disappoint them too much. Bottom shaming is common so of people know I'm bottom, they'll be gossiping.

 

Okay, so versatile is 99% bottom, leave people with some face okay? I can still deny unless you seen me being fucked before. That's why I seldom play in sg. I get gang raped in Korea, they only remember me as the whore 0 for a few days. After that, it's heaven knows and me know.

 

Of course those good tops no need even to ask, from body language they already feel it and take me. They prefer not to ask and we both happy that maybe I look masculine enough to be real versatile and he conquered me. 

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Masc btm said:

Even for a slut bottom like me, I die die must say I'm versatile. It's two sided. People expect me to be top so at least must not disappoint them too much. Bottom shaming is common so of people know I'm bottom, they'll be gossiping.

 

Okay, so versatile is 99% bottom, leave people with some face okay? I can still deny unless you seen me being fucked before. That's why I seldom play in sg. I get gang raped in Korea, they only remember me as the whore 0 for a few days. After that, it's heaven knows and me know.

 

Of course those good tops no need even to ask, from body language they already feel it and take me. They prefer not to ask and we both happy that maybe I look masculine enough to be real versatile and he conquered me. 

 

I get it.   The only necessary and sufficient condition to be versatile is to have a cock.  

[FattChoy]

4 hours ago, Guest Masc btm said:

Even for a slut bottom like me ....

 

Wow... bottom shaming is a thing?

 

Got a story to share.  I remembered there was this elder buddy of mine, and we've stayed in touch since the MSN days and we are just friends.

 

He was in his late 40s and he told me  about his wild sessions in saunas banging btms etc etc.  One day I swam at his condo and went back to his unit to shower.  That day I was feeling a bit down and in need of some physical intimacy, so I asked him if he could give me a hj.  

 

So we made out in the shower and he took off his trunks.  His dick was ....not only small but soft at best.  So I asked if that was as hard as it gets, and he said yes.  Anyway we finished the mutual hj, limp dick and all, where his ass was fingered deeply, and I wondered how the hell he top all those btms in the sauna with that thing.

 

After that incident,  I subconsciously didn't chat with him and that's that.  My bad.... so shallow minded.

 

  

[auri]

For me.... I am flex, but it does not mean I can do both with anybody/everybody.

Some guys... I would like to top them but not get topped by them

Other guys... I would like to get topped by, but I would not want to top them

Then, there are some with whom I can do both!

Can be a bit complicated, ha ha

[Guest Flamingo]

What a wonderful question. It is like what is the difference between chinese and singaporean.

[Guest 72%]

https://www.blowingwind.io/forum/topic/93233-what-do-you-mean-when-you-say-you-are-“versatile”-or-“flexible”/

[Guest 72%]

“true” flex/vers – someone who likes both fucking and being fucked equally well; can do both in the same session, may even prefer it if possible (by flipping with another flex or being sandwiched in a threesome)

 

situational flex/vers – someone who chooses whether to top or bottom depending on mood or the circumstances. for example, prefers to top cute young twinks but bottom for hunkles. 

 

flex/vers bottom – someone who usually bottoms, but does top once in a while. in other words, prefers bottoming but open to topping when the person or situation is suitable.

 

flex/vers top – someone who usually tops, but does bottom once in a while. in other words, prefers topping but open to bottoming when the person or situation is suitable.

 

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note: people who don’t do anal will often still identify as top/bottom in apps and such, but in these cases it typically refers to dominance/submissiveness rather than insertive preference (though sometimes it’s also conflated with one’s preference for the giving or receiving roles in oral sex)

[Lemonjuice]

Hmm i am a 0 then lol.

i can even auto-cum while sucking a top

[Kimochi]

Just now, Lemonjuice said:

Hmm i am a 0 then lol.

i can even auto-cum while sucking a top

So slutty and kinky ~ LIKE 

[feedersmiracle]

5 minutes ago, Lemonjuice said:

Hmm i am a 0 then lol.

i can even auto-cum while sucking a top

Can I learn from you lol.

 

Yesterday received HJ accidentally shot my partner eye lol.

[Guest 72%]

human sexuality is complex. one’s preference for topping or bottoming is influenced by physical sensations, psychological and sociocultural factors. 

 

some guys are submissive, they crave the role stereotypically assigned to bottoms, but they find the physical sensation of being penetrated anally too uncomfortable. occasionally such guys might identify as “passive tops”, but often a lack of general awareness/understanding might lead them to consider themselves some kind of “flex/vers”.

 

other guys find anal penetration physically pleasurable, but they associate receptiveness with effeminacy or submissiveness or whatever,  and so are ashamed to admit that they like it. on rare occasion such a guy might identify as a “dom bottom”; but more often than not he might label himself some type of “flex/vers”. 

 

a lot of these issues wouldn’t exist if we stopped viewing bottoming as shameful/negative/effeminate and topping as macho/powerful. surely an irony given that bottoming is more challenging than topping. 

[Kimochi]

1 hour ago, feedersmiracle said:

Can I learn from you lol.

 

Yesterday received HJ accidentally shot my partner eye lol.

SO KINKY ~ 

[Guest Disclosed Yourself]

On 10/7/2019 at 12:24 PM, Guest 72% said:

“true” flex/vers – someone who likes both fucking and being fucked equally well; can do both in the same session, may even prefer it if possible (by flipping with another flex or being sandwiched in a threesome)

 

situational flex/vers – someone who chooses whether to top or bottom depending on mood or the circumstances. for example, prefers to top cute young twinks but bottom for hunkles. 

 

flex/vers bottom – someone who usually bottoms, but does top once in a while. in other words, prefers bottoming but open to topping when the person or situation is suitable.

 

flex/vers top – someone who usually tops, but does bottom once in a while. in other words, prefers topping but open to bottoming when the person or situation is suitable.

 

—

 

note: people who don’t do anal will often still identify as top/bottom in apps and such, but in these cases it typically refers to dominance/submissiveness rather than insertive preference (though sometimes it’s also conflated with one’s preference for the giving or receiving roles in oral sex)

 

Well well. Finally there is someone who explained it well. I think I'm either 2 or 4.

[Guest guest]

Seems like there are many vers bottom and bottom around?!

[fab]

8 hours ago, Guest Terence45 said:

I never thought that there are still several categories

 

There are only 2 cats.

 

Fuck or don't fuck.

[Expired Btm Uncle]

Vers btm is a btm in denial. A pure btm embraced his destiny in a clear and transparent manner.

[Zealouslogue]

7 minutes ago, Expired Btm Uncle said:

Vers btm is a btm in denial. A pure btm embraced his destiny in a clear and transparent manner.

Are you a pure bottom? Haha

[Guest sgman]

1 hour ago, Expired Btm Uncle said:

Vers btm is a btm in denial. A pure btm embraced his destiny in a clear and transparent manner.

Does it have to be so absolute?

I am a bottom, by nature.... pretty much my fantasies all involve being fucked.

However, there has been quite a number of occasions when I ended up fucking others.

That usually happens when the other party "takes charge", ha ha

 

It is kind of enjoyable, but it is not something I would seek out.

There is also a weird sensation of achievement to see the bottom cum while fucking him.

[Guest No tell]

On 4/22/2019 at 8:18 AM, FattChoy said:

 

Wow... bottom shaming is a thing?

 

Got a story to share.  I remembered there was this elder buddy of mine, and we've stayed in touch since the MSN days and we are just friends.

 

He was in his late 40s and he told me  about his wild sessions in saunas banging btms etc etc.  One day I swam at his condo and went back to his unit to shower.  That day I was feeling a bit down and in need of some physical intimacy, so I asked him if he could give me a hj.  

 

So we made out in the shower and he took off his trunks.  His dick was ....not only small but soft at best.  So I asked if that was as hard as it gets, and he said yes.  Anyway we finished the mutual hj, limp dick and all, where his ass was fingered deeply, and I wondered how the hell he top all those btms in the sauna with that thing.

 

After that incident,  I subconsciously didn't chat with him and that's that.  My bad.... so shallow minded.

Yeah, even if I never brag that I'm a top, the expectation was always there from my looks.

 

Got that look of disappoint or disbelief when someone found out I'm 0.

When I said I'm vers, they should already got the hint.

 

At least you don't bottom shame your buddy except here?

I have 1 big mouth friend who was shocked and thought I was a big liar;

he just had to out me.

He just had to tell everybody like it's big news.

That's when I found out that most people already knew that.

I'm the one who's surprised since I thought I was covering up well.

They heard it from the grapevine but no proof.

[FattChoy]

34 minutes ago, Guest No tell said:

Yeah, even if I never brag that I'm a top, the expectation was always there from my looks.

 

Got that look of disappoint or disbelief when someone found out I'm 0.

When I said I'm vers, they should already got the hint.

 

At least you don't bottom shame your buddy except here?

I have 1 big mouth friend who was shocked and thought I was a big liar;

he just had to out me.

He just had to tell everybody like it's big news.

That's when I found out that most people already knew that.

I'm the one who's surprised since I thought I was covering up well.

They heard it from the grapevine but no proof.

I can't and didn't bottom-shame him cos despite his small and soft member, from what I gather, I don't think he's a bottom.  He probably waaay oversold himself as a top.

[Guest BMT]

Versatile bottom means bottom.

 

Versatile top means bottom.

 

Pure top means top.

[Guest Cliente]

1 hour ago, FattChoy said:

I can't and didn't bottom-shame him cos despite his small and soft member, from what I gather, I don't think he's a bottom.  He probably waaay oversold himself as a top.

You said you were down and requested for a hj. Did it ever occur to you that you might not be his type and he was merely offering charity sex to you out of compassion... I guess that explains his soft and unerected cock haha.