Christian feeling guilty after masturbation

[Guest GuiltyBoi]

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

 

I've been stroking my rod since early sec sch days and everytime the urge comes I just find it so hard to resist the urge to masturbate.

 

However, after I finish shooting my load, I will look at the clump of cum-filled tissue and feel guilty afterwards, like I've done something bad. I quickly flush all that sperm away and try not to think about it.

 

Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

 

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

Is there anyone in the same or similar situation?

[Guest Buddhism]

13 minutes ago, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

 

I've been stroking my rod since early sec sch days and everytime the urge comes I just find it so hard to resist the urge to masturbate.

 

However, after I finish shooting my load, I will look at the clump of cum-filled tissue and feel guilty afterwards, like I've done something bad. I quickly flush all that sperm away and try not to think about it.

 

Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

 

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

Is there anyone in the same or similar situation?

I'm not Christian but I do feel guilty when I was young everytime I cum. I will associate all the bad things that happens due to my acts. N I will ask for forgiveness n another chance n will never masturbate again. N this things happen over n over again, looking back now. Now that I have grown up, the same things happened again. I will associate all the bad things due to my visit to sauna. N I will seek for forgiveness n another chance n I will never visit sauna ever again. This vow I made last week ago. But it started to sway again. 

[BlinkOnce]

You are perhaps experiencing post nut syndrome (post coital tristesse)

It is normal in men, we experience it with varying degrees of severity.

Masturbation and all sexual activities are healthy to a normal human being (of course, with protection and mutual consent for sex with another person).

So maybe try to NOT associate it with something negative?

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

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Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

 

Being religious has its benefits,  and its drawbacks.  Your feeling of guilt is definitely something negative.

Hopefully as you gain life experience you will realize that many prohibitions from religion lack any real basis.  Included in these are very importantly the dictates about sexual orientation and behavior.  Religions should concern themselves with speculations about the nature of the universe, the origin and ultimate destination of our lives.  But invariably they seek power by claiming to speak in the name of some divinity that passes them on some rules that allegedly are His will, and some warnings about violating "His will".   With this fact in mind, one's first thoughts should be why would an infinitely powerful divinity care if one masturbates or not, and with whom one has sex.  This concern should be the domain of the persons who care for our health, the doctors and the psychiatrists (for mental health). 

 

In today's world, the health care professionals have determined that there is no harm in masturbating, and homosexuality is not an illness.  And furthermore they find that feeling guilty about these can lead to psychological harm and lead to practices that can affect our health,  like refusing to be tested and take prophylactic measures with sex.

 

The condemnation of homosexuality by Christian organizations may be coming to an end soon.  The Catholic church is easing on it, and some Protestant denominations have removed any sinfulness from same-sex acts and allow same-sex marriage.

[Guest Neh Neh]

GuityBoi should be called notty boi haha... masturbation not good for health. Go hook up someone to learn kamasutra, good for man health.

[LeanMature]

I felt the same way when I was converted a Christian in my teens. Then after becoming a non-christian, i shoot like machine gun and am elated when weekends come.  I become more energetic, radiant and has a great sense of freedom!

[Lemonjuice]

30 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Dear Thread Starter, please read the following:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/masturbation-in-the-bible-what-does-scripture-say

 

The Jews who follow the Old Testament have misinterpreted the above to mean that sperm is meant only for procreation and hence regard masturbation an abomination.  Christians are not following many of the quotes from this Testament.  Have you heard of any Christian who refuses to work on Sundays, refrain from eating pork, shark meat, oysters, scallops and drinking wine or beer?  Don't be like me.  I discovered ejaculation from masturbation only at age 33 and missed too many years of sensual joy in individual privacy.

i think in the case of Onan, he disobeyed God’s command to continue his brother lineage by pulling out before ejaculating inside his sister jn law... nothing to do with wanking

 

anyway, I see OT as a very old book with huge prone of errors in translation and etymology misinterpretation. Furthermore, ancient Aramaic (The language OT was written) has disappeared thousand of years before the papiruses were found and translated i to the first bible...

[gstringuy26]

Even if you don't masterbate, it will cum out as wet dreams after a month of abstaining! We are only humans?

[Kimochi]

2 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Dear Thread Starter, please read the following:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/masturbation-in-the-bible-what-does-scripture-say

 

The Jews who follow the Old Testament have misinterpreted the above to mean that sperm is meant only for procreation and hence regard masturbation an abomination.  Christians are not following many of the quotes from this Testament.  Have you heard of any Christian who refuses to work on Sundays, refrain from eating pork, shark meat, oysters, scallops and drinking wine or beer?  Don't be like me.  I discovered ejaculation from masturbation only at age 33 and missed too many years of sensual joy in individual privacy.

Hugs ~ 

[Discrete2020]

I'm not religious at all (am agnostic), so I can't relate to your problem specifically. But I think you should know that recent medical research has found that ejaculation frequency is linked to lower rates of prostate cancer:

 

"The scientists found no evidence that frequent ejaculations mark an increased risk of prostate cancer. In fact, the reverse was true: High ejaculation frequency was linked to a decreased risk. Compared to men who reported 4–7 ejaculations per month across their lifetimes, men who ejaculated 21 or more times a month enjoyed a 31% lower risk of prostate cancer. And the results held up to rigorous statistical evaluation even after other lifestyle factors and the frequency of PSA testing were taken into account."

 

An Australian study of 2,338 men examined the impact of sexual factors on the occurrence of prostate cancer before the age of 70. Like the Harvard research, the Australian investigation evaluated total ejaculations rather than sexual intercourse itself. Like the American men, the Australians who ejaculated most frequently enjoyed a reduced risk of prostate cancer. The effect was strongest for the frequency of ejaculations in young adulthood, even though prostate cancer was not diagnosed until many decades later. Even so, the apparent protection extended to all age groups. In all, men who averaged 4.6–7 ejaculations a week were 36% less likely to be diagnosed with prostate cancer before the age of 70 than men who ejaculated less than 2.3 times a week on average.

Source: https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/ejaculation_frequency_and_prostate_cancer

 

 

So instead of looking at your sperm and thinking "I have sinned", you should just see it as a part of a healthy, functioning body (you can think of it as "cleaning the pipes" if it helps). Men aren't designed to only produce sperm and ejaculate when it's time to reproduce - human biology just doesn't work that way. 

 

 If you find this kind of secular-scientific reasoning unsatisfactory, I recommend Michel Foucault's The History of Sexuality (vol 1) - it looks at how Catholicism came to influence, shape and control the discourse of sexuality in the Western world (these attitudes were later exported to the rest of the world via colonialism/imperialism).

 

 

 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Discrete2020

[Guest Enjoy]

Get religion out of the picture and enjoy your life to the fullest.  Religious leaders, politicians, teachers, lawyers, doctors...etc all masturbates in their privacy, some even in public toilet.  If you are afraid of doing it yourself, than get someone here to help you, orally or manually.  

[Steve5380]

13 hours ago, Guest Neh Neh said:

GuityBoi should be called notty boi haha... masturbation not good for health. Go hook up someone to learn kamasutra, good for man health.

 

Neh Neh

 

Statistics show that ejaculation is good for our health.  Like @Discrete2020 reported above, medical studies found that frequent ejaculation reduces the probability of getting prostate cancer.  It is not sure that it reduces this probability only before the age of 70,  so being past 70 I keep happily reducing my probability  by jerking off frequently. 

 

And also happily the probability I think of that a God watches me and cares if I masturbate has also dropped to near zero,  so I cannot feel any guilt about that  

[Guest Guest]

I used to feel guilty after sucking all the hot hard rods.

now I give thanks to the Lord for creating men for me to suck their warm man creams! 😜

[Guest Pasiforo Oranihar Ser]

Only applies to willing cock, willing mouth.  Most of the time, either one  is not willing and it can be very frustrating.

 

[Guest Truth within you]

19 hours ago, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

 

I've been stroking my rod since early sec sch days and everytime the urge comes I just find it so hard to resist the urge to masturbate.

 

However, after I finish shooting my load, I will look at the clump of cum-filled tissue and feel guilty afterwards, like I've done something bad. I quickly flush all that sperm away and try not to think about it.

 

Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

 

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

Is there anyone in the same or similar situation?

 

Imagine, if masturbation is already giving you the guilt, how about being gay then?  Will you deny your sexuality and to fulfill religious obligation that you will get married some day?   Then imagine that you cannot make the wife happy and satisfied (which is a duty of a good husband)?  Won't this make you guilty again?  The cycle repeats.  Can you live your life feeling guilty all the time?

 

You may decide not to masturbate so as not to feel guilty.  Then, one night, you have wet dream.  While you are not consciously jerking off, but the cum-filled undie already proved that your mind and body are not co-operating with your guilt that you have been wanting to shut it off.  Imagine what will become you?

 

Religion is good but the preachers often instill fear instead of love.

[mike_amk]

I believe that as we move forward, greater enlightenment can be observed in the major organised faith systems in our world, but for some strange reason, everyone likes to zoom in on the Christian Faith system.... when the Other Faiths have some rather strong words on masturbation as well... but don't get mentioned !

 

As a Christian, I have seen a great shift, where the preaching on accepting everyone as God's creation, Gays and non-gays. And we are sexual beings... sex is for our pleasure!

There has been not much said or preached on these days about the guilt of masturbation.

I feel that as well educated persons, we ought to read Scriptures and know that the older books had been looked at with translation "errors" and need to relook the meanings.  

Many people are rather ignorant of the faith system they belong to... never reading their Scriptures themselves,  but basing on what someone else said... case of the blind leading the dumb!!

Typical of spoon fed persons, who later looks to point fingers. 

 

I have grown up with a healthy level of masturbation... guilt free too!! and going by the research put out on prostate health, I'm going to keep up my self-love ...hehe

My God Loves Me for whom I Am !   My Faith is my personal Choice,... flaws and all.   

I don't need nor care for the approval of another human in what I do or don't.  

Live and let live... jerk away guys !!   

 

   

[Zackling]

to the thread starter, you should embrace ur sexual desire.. if you want to be a faithful christian, then you won't be wanking off. You don't have to feel guilty, you have those desires for a reason, you should act on them. you can always go to a cathedral to make a confession & all will will be forgiven. For ur penance, 10 bloody mary & a  good shag. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Zackling

[Guest Decent]

In the first place, ask yourself “do you feel guilty after browsing and posting on blowing wind”?

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, Zackling said:

to the thread starter, you should embrace ur sexual desire.. if you want to be a faithful christian, then you won't be wanking off. You don't have to feel guilty, you have those desires for a reason, you should act on them. you can always go to a cathedral to make a confession & all will will be forgiven. For ur penance, 10 bloody mary & a  good shag. 

 

You don't need to go to a cathedral to make a confession.  All that is required is an ordained priest in active standing who has the right utensils and says the right words.  This is what works, say, on your deathbed.  Thinking of it...  we should not worry but can always wait until we are in our deathbed to make a full confession of the thousands of times we masturbated and had gay sex. We don't need to remember details of each instance,  just have the necessary repentance.  It is like clicking on the field "delete all".

[Guest Just Me]

Better cub your desire, it is against the spiritual law and very sinful.  I urge all readers to stop being horny, it is not very religious thing.  Leave all the men alone out there, so that I can have all the men to me. 

[Steve5380]

18 hours ago, Guest Just Me said:

Better cub your desire, it is against the spiritual law and very sinful.  I urge all readers to stop being horny, it is not very religious thing.  Leave all the men alone out there, so that I can have all the men to me. 

 

If your exhortation is very successful and all man curb their desires, you will not find any men out there to have them all for you 

 

[Guest Smell]

I'm so horny and attracted to Indian men recently. Every Indian man that I passed by, I can smell their manly smell. Wanted to kiss them passionately. Groping their hairy chest n body. N put my lips on their facial hair. I'm going crazy. I will take a very long look at them especially when they are sleeping in the mrt train. Admiring their features. Is like having tunnel vision, every guy that pass me by will not escape from my vision. Will sure get hit by me. .

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Guest Smell said:

I'm so horny and attracted to Indian men recently. Every Indian man that I passed by, I can smell their manly smell. Wanted to kiss them passionately. Groping their hairy chest n body. N put my lips on their facial hair. I'm going crazy. I will take a very long look at them especially when they are sleeping in the mrt train. Admiring their features. Is like having tunnel vision, every guy that pass me by will not escape from my vision. Will sure get hit by me. .

 

Don't worry.  Christ didn't say anything against kissing passionately Indian men.

[Guest Me Too]

8 hours ago, Guest Smell said:

I'm so horny and attracted to Indian men recently. Every Indian man that I passed by, I can smell their manly smell. Wanted to kiss them passionately. Groping their hairy chest n body. N put my lips on their facial hair. I'm going crazy. I will take a very long look at them especially when they are sleeping in the mrt train. Admiring their features. Is like having tunnel vision, every guy that pass me by will not escape from my vision. Will sure get hit by me. .

Me too.  If they slept with man spreading it will be a bonus. Best  when the train is empty, he is all yours for complete visual molest.

[Guest Guest]

On 10/3/2019 at 8:21 AM, Nightingale said:

Don't be like me.

 

Best ever advice from you in sooooooo many ways... Trust me, we all hope we won't be like you.

 

[Guest Guest]

On 10/3/2019 at 8:57 AM, Lemonjuice said:

i think in the case of Onan, he disobeyed God’s command to continue his brother lineage by pulling out before ejaculating inside his sister jn law...

 

Errrr ... so the bible spoke of God asking the brother to impregnate his sister-in-law?? This is OK in the Bible's context but not masturbation??? 

[Lemonjuice]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Errrr ... so the bible spoke of God asking the brother to impregnate his sister-in-law?? This is OK in the Bible's context but not masturbation??? 

Of course not lol. The whole premise of OT is mostly questionable from modern days lens.

[yag123123]

On 10/3/2019 at 12:45 AM, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

 

I've been stroking my rod since early sec sch days and everytime the urge comes I just find it so hard to resist the urge to masturbate.

 

However, after I finish shooting my load, I will look at the clump of cum-filled tissue and feel guilty afterwards, like I've done something bad. I quickly flush all that sperm away and try not to think about it.

 

Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

 

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

Is there anyone in the same or similar situation?

 

It is normal. Based on christian context , all forms of masturbation is a sin..so is oral sex etc etc...taken from the old testament...if a man or women spills sextual juices out of the body they are considered unclean.

 

I was once ,like you and if not overcomed, there will be guilt and over long periods of time....suicidal thoughts..

 

I am a strong believer to the faith but

 

I learnt...its either i jerk off...

 

Or i will end up hungry...which might lead to molest...or just become a whore and fk around...

 

I decided to keep my whore..ness to myself and my bf...

 

There must be a compromise between being idealistic and realistic

 

Stay strong..

Edited October 5, 2019 by yag123123

[Guest Guest]

9 hours ago, Lemonjuice said:

Of course not lol. The whole premise of OT is mostly questionable from modern days lens.

 

I think the whole premise of the Bible is mostly questionable from modern days lens. I think the next time people uses the Bible to bash gays, I'd tell them that the Bible told them to go sleep with their in-laws. 

[Lemonjuice]

45 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

I think the whole premise of the Bible is mostly questionable from modern days lens. I think the next time people uses the Bible to bash gays, I'd tell them that the Bible told them to go sleep with their in-laws. 

True 🤪

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

I think the whole premise of the Bible is mostly questionable from modern days lens. I think the next time people uses the Bible to bash gays, I'd tell them that the Bible told them to go sleep with their in-laws. 

 

You are right.  And it had to be questionable before our modern days,...  all the way back to the time it was being written!

 

Different societies have different ceremonies that define when their children "come of age" and become adults.

There should be an additional world-wide ceremony  "Liberation from the Bible", that young persons should go through no later than their 18th birthday. 

.

Edited October 5, 2019 by Steve5380

[Traveler3032]

I feel so much better after having sex. Why feel guilty after pleasure? You don't cheat anyone. 

[Guest GuiltyBoi]

11 hours ago, yag123123 said:

 

It is normal. Based on christian context , all forms of masturbation is a sin..so is oral sex etc etc...taken from the old testament...if a man or women spills sextual juices out of the body they are considered unclean.

 

I was once ,like you and if not overcomed, there will be guilt and over long periods of time....suicidal thoughts..

 

I am a strong believer to the faith but

 

I learnt...its either i jerk off...

 

Or i will end up hungry...which might lead to molest...or just become a whore and fk around...

 

I decided to keep my whore..ness to myself and my bf...

 

There must be a compromise between being idealistic and realistic

 

Stay strong..

 

But do you jerk off to porn? I suppose if you jerk off without looking at porn it is not as sinful... I think 😅

[Zackling]

@Guest GuiltyBoi, you should go read the new testament.. God loves you. no matter whatever ur guilt, sins and shits are.. its all taken & paid off by Jesus the man Himself on the Cross. All is good, all is forgiven. unless u gonna discipline urself on not doing  masturbation.. if not u can keep on feeling guilty like hell. end of story. I am a ncc church goer as well, i still fools around with hookers.. so why the hell u grumbling abt. Its all abt free will. 

 

Nest thread please!!! this is getting boring and nowhere!!

Edited October 6, 2019 by Zackling

[Pubic01]

Fears & Desires control our minds, and some people are very good at using these as tools of manipulation. Just look to office politics and some churches and you can see good examples. Masturbation (or the ability to) is the coming of age for a young adult. It’s an individual’s exploration before setting wings for the larger less predictable world outside. It’s preparatory. Nothing wrong with masturbation ! No harm’s done to anyone .. think about it. To have guilt built into such private matter, is a manipulative act to assert power over you as an otherwise independent living being. 

Edited October 6, 2019 by Pubic01

[yag123123]

14 hours ago, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

 

But do you jerk off to porn? I suppose if you jerk off without looking at porn it is not as sinful... I think 😅

No..

 

Jesus said...if you look at someone lustfully...your already committing sextual sin..

 

just dont be shameful to masturbate....instead ..of asking God for forgiveness...pray that God will allow you to find a partner ...so you can spill whatever lust you have ....on him.

[Steve5380]

16 hours ago, Zackling said:

 

Nest thread please!!! this is getting boring and nowhere!!

 

What is a "Nest thread"?  First time I hear about this. 

Is it a thread where you can nest inside and feel protected against all the other boring threads getting nowhere?

If you nest in a thread,  be sure that you do it at the highest moral elevation, and don't poop on those who also come to it to read.

[sayfirst]

On 10/3/2019 at 12:45 AM, Guest GuiltyBoi said:

Hi all is there anyone out there who feels guilty each time after jerking off?

 

I've been stroking my rod since early sec sch days and everytime the urge comes I just find it so hard to resist the urge to masturbate.

 

However, after I finish shooting my load, I will look at the clump of cum-filled tissue and feel guilty afterwards, like I've done something bad. I quickly flush all that sperm away and try not to think about it.

 

Perhaps I'm feeling this way because of my religious background as my family members and I are Christian.

 

I do pray and ask for forgiveness after but a day or two later I find myself unable to control the urge to masturbate again. The cycle repeats and the guilt lingers.

 

Is there anyone in the same or similar situation?

 

I’m Catholic, and experienced a similar situation. Masturbate, feel guilty, confess at the church, and soon after the whole cycle repeats again.  

 

It felt like I was making a mockery out of the Catholic teachings — if I truly wanted to change for the better, shouldn’t I simply stop masturbating?

 

Some time later I stopped going to church because I felt that I couldn’t live up to it, and didn’t want to make a mockery out of it. I’m pretty sure that if I confess everytime after I do the deed, the priests would notice the recurring pattern. There were days when I sat in the pews instead of going to receive communion like everyone else, because I had not confessed, and didn’t want to receive communion in a state of sin.

 

Perhaps I was just being too hard on myself and held myself to an unrealistic expectation to do it right and stop repeatedly committing the same sin. In these situations, one should ideally love God enough to choose God over sin.

 

OP, it’s harmful to perpetually feel guilty and conflicted. Hope you find clarity which will help you in making a decision!

 

P.S. I have some Catholic sexual health books, can pass them to you if you want to read up.

[Guest Guest]

6 minutes ago, sayfirst said:

 

I’m Catholic, and experienced a similar situation. Masturbate, feel guilty, confess at the church, and soon after the whole cycle repeats again.  

 

It felt like I was making a mockery out of the Catholic teachings — if I truly wanted to change for the better, shouldn’t I simply stop masturbating?

 

Some time later I stopped going to church because I felt that I couldn’t live up to it, and didn’t want to make a mockery out of it. I’m pretty sure that if I confess everytime after I do the deed, the priests would notice the recurring pattern. There were days when I sat in the pews instead of going to receive communion like everyone else, because I had not confessed, and didn’t want to receive communion in a state of sin.

 

Perhaps I was just being too hard on myself and held myself to an unrealistic expectation to do it right and stop repeatedly committing the same sin. In these situations, one should ideally love God enough to choose God over sin.

 

OP, it’s harmful to perpetually feel guilty and conflicted. Hope you find clarity which will help you in making a decision!

 

P.S. I have some Catholic sexual health books, can pass them to you if you want to read up.

 

OK, let me get this straightened out. Other then the part mentioned in one of the above posts about God killing off Oman who would rather let his sperm lay spent on the ground rather than impregnate his sister-in-law, there are some other parts which talk about masturbating being a sin? 

[sayfirst]

29 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

OK, let me get this straightened out. Other then the part mentioned in one of the above posts about God killing off Oman who would rather let his sperm lay spent on the ground rather than impregnate his sister-in-law, there are some other parts which talk about masturbating being a sin? 

I do not know which parts of the bible talk about masturbation being a sin, but that is what was taught during RCIA. Sex/sexual pleasure is meant to culminate in procreation only. Hence masturbation is a sin. 

 

Also, I realise that this teaching is contrary to what you mentioned about Oman (did not read the earlier post, and am unaware of the mention of Oman in the bible), but that is what was taught. 

 

Disclaimer: I may not be stating it accurately, so it’s best to consult an appropriate, educated source if interested.

[mate69]

Leave religion out of it lah.

It's your biology and physical well-being.

All men need sex, and where it's not available, masturbation is the way to go.

No ifs and butts about it.

[Guest Onan]

Did your parents ever caught you masturbating when young? Did they tell you negative things about masturbation and having influence on your health.

 

For the survival of people 1000 years ago most religions brought in rules to condemn any sexual activity. Sex was only permitted to create offspring and reproduction.

 

In the old Hebrew testimony is the story about Onan who was supposed to make his sister in law pregnant but refused so by spilling his sperm onto the floor.

 

Many interpreters read out of this, to condemn masturbation. However, it was never said Onan having spilled his sperm for his sexual pleasure.

 

The bible is silent on masturbation.

 

In ancient times you need to know it had many child deaths, in order to keep the level of reproduction healthy creating sufficient offspring for survival people condemned all what was associated with sex just for personal pleasure. Religions have been telling a lot which never really made sense or which is not applicable any longer in nowadays life.

 

In the world of today with poverty and over population you don't need any longer to worry.

 

I always fear the worst of people who loose their sight on usual matters and permit religion to overcome their wellbeing and reasonable reflection of matters. The worst if they even start having a feeling of guilt. If you had murdered a person or did something nasty to others, you might feel as a sinner but in masturbating you don't hurt anyone.

Anyway, you might not make any girl pregnant at all being gay.

Why creating problems to yourself if this is not any issue at all. You must work to get rid of any such guilt feelings because I fear the same will happen if you have sex with a guy.

You better seek some councelling but not from any church but with someone non religious.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, sayfirst said:

I do not know which parts of the bible talk about masturbation being a sin, but that is what was taught during RCIA. Sex/sexual pleasure is meant to culminate in procreation only. Hence masturbation is a sin. 

 

Also, I realise that this teaching is contrary to what you mentioned about Oman (did not read the earlier post, and am unaware of the mention of Oman in the bible), but that is what was taught. 

 

Disclaimer: I may not be stating it accurately, so it’s best to consult an appropriate, educated source if interested.

 

29 minutes ago, Guest Onan said:

Did your parents ever caught you masturbating when young? Did they tell you negative things about masturbation and having influence on your health.

 

For the survival of people 1000 years ago most religions brought in rules to condemn any sexual activity. Sex was only permitted to create offspring and reproduction.

 

In the old Hebrew testimony is the story about Onan who was supposed to make his sister in law pregnant but refused so by spilling his sperm onto the floor.

 

Many interpreters read out of this, to condemn masturbation. However, it was never said Onan having spilled his sperm for his sexual pleasure.

 

The bible is silent on masturbation.

 

In ancient times you need to know it had many child deaths, in order to keep the level of reproduction healthy creating sufficient offspring for survival people condemned all what was associated with sex just for personal pleasure. Religions have been telling a lot which never really made sense or which is not applicable any longer in nowadays life.

 

In the world of today with poverty and over population you don't need any longer to worry.

 

I always fear the worst of people who loose their sight on usual matters and permit religion to overcome their wellbeing and reasonable reflection of matters. The worst if they even start having a feeling of guilt. If you had murdered a person or did something nasty to others, you might feel as a sinner but in masturbating you don't hurt anyone.

Anyway, you might not make any girl pregnant at all being gay.

Why creating problems to yourself if this is not any issue at all. You must work to get rid of any such guilt feelings because I fear the same will happen if you have sex with a guy.

You better seek some councelling but not from any church but with someone non religious.

 

 

 

 

 

So .... in that case, WHO was the one who forbid masturbation in the first place...??? 

[Guest Onan]

17 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

So .... in that case, WHO was the one who forbid masturbation in the first place...??? 

 

homo sapiens

[Guest Onan]

On 10/3/2019 at 2:21 AM, Nightingale said:

Dear Thread Starter, please read the following:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/masturbation-in-the-bible-what-does-scripture-say

 

The Jews who follow the Old Testament have misinterpreted the above to mean that sperm is meant only for procreation and hence regard masturbation an abomination.  Christians are not following many of the quotes from this Testament.  Have you heard of any Christian who refuses to work on Sundays, refrain from eating pork, shark meat, oysters, scallops and drinking wine or beer?  Don't be like me.  I discovered ejaculation from masturbation only at age 33 and missed too many years of sensual joy in individual privacy.

 

Just for historical , cultural completeness:

The day of rest from the Old Testimony , the Jewish Bible, is the Schabbat (Saturday) ( and not the Sunday)...

 

 

[Steve5380]

22 minutes ago, Guest Onan said:

 

Just for historical , cultural completeness:

The day of rest from the Old Testimony , the Jewish Bible, is the Schabbat (Saturday) ( and not the Sunday)...

 

 

Just for the health of pragmatism:  In the infinite vastness of the Universe,  one revolution of the little earth around its axis is INSIGNIFICANT.  No serious God would make an issue of resting a Sunday instead of a Saturday.  I rest in both (and some other days)   and no God has ever come to me to complain.  One more reason to suspect that the God of Abraham was simply a "homo sapiens", as you wrote.

[Guest Onan]

On 10/5/2019 at 10:08 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

I think the whole premise of the Bible is mostly questionable from modern days lens. I think the next time people uses the Bible to bash gays, I'd tell them that the Bible told them to go sleep with their in-laws. 

 

What you refer to is cited in the Jewish Bible (Books of Moses) and not the New Testimony, the latter being more the Christian bible.

 

[Steve5380]

On 10/7/2019 at 3:22 AM, sayfirst said:

 

I’m Catholic, and experienced a similar situation. Masturbate, feel guilty, confess at the church, and soon after the whole cycle repeats again.  

 

It felt like I was making a mockery out of the Catholic teachings — if I truly wanted to change for the better, shouldn’t I simply stop masturbating?

 

Some time later I stopped going to church because I felt that I couldn’t live up to it, and didn’t want to make a mockery out of it. I’m pretty sure that if I confess everytime after I do the deed, the priests would notice the recurring pattern. There were days when I sat in the pews instead of going to receive communion like everyone else, because I had not confessed, and didn’t want to receive communion in a state of sin.

 

 

Dear sayfirst,

 

You look very innocent in your photo, but this does not mean that you should let your brain be washed out like that!  YOU are not making a mockery out of the Catholic teaching.  It is the Catholic organization who does it.   Christianity should be based on the philosophy of Jesus Christ, period!   The fact that he was a Jew does not mean that the religion he was born into is better than others.  Even Jews today recognize that much of the Old Testament, especially the Torah, is purely allegoric, NOT factual.   And after the days of Christ, an "apostle" Paul transformed Christianity into Catholicism, starting the addition of stuff to the pure essence of Christ's teachings.  One big stuff are the "sacraments", invented by the religious professionals who loaded the Catholic church with immense power over us vulnerable people.  Imagine!!!  Some guy in black receives divine power to erase our sins or not!   He has divine power to transform bread and wine into the body and blood of a God!  He has divine power to marry man with woman (and so allow them to have sex without "sin") and have the marriage recognized up there in heaven, or not!   How does this guy in black receive such godly power?   simply by taking a theology course in a seminary and say all the religiously-correct things he is required to do.

 

There are positive things in Catholicism.  Some times I wish I could ignore my agnosticism and believe. Like many religions, it has the moral principles necessary for a religion to gain respectability.  There are many good people in the Catholic church,  but none of them has any knowledge that did not come though hearsay.  None can confirm the dogma with personal experience. So if you go to Mass and follow the rites this should be perfectly fine to elevate your spirit.  

 

The problem arises when religious fantasies start to make you feel guilty...  over things that don't deserve any real guilt.  There is one and only one action that deserves guilt:  to victimize people including oneself and also victimize most other living creatures.  Masturbation does not hurt anyone.  Gay sex between consenting adults does not hurt anyone.  And the list goes on...

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Edited October 8, 2019 by Steve5380

[Guest Golden]

Not so much guilty as regretful when cum alone. Could have been joy with another!

[Russ]

 

Not me. Name coincidence.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Russ