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On 11/27/2019 at 3:54 PM, robin said:

Did I suggest for TS that he has to give tuition? Please read carefully. I am only sharing my experiences & suggest for TS to look into what he can do with his personal time if he is a stay out personal.
 

Anyway, I can understand if TS is just ranting. But if he is seriously facing financial hardship to meet his personal expenses, with more than half a million of Singaporean guys who has gone through NS and for a stay-in personal whose expenses can be kept to a minimal, I have no further comments. His post reflects his expectations of NS allowance. 


Believe ‘Since u r here’ and ‘Fox92’ point is that your personal experiences are too different from those of mono-intake batches guys. You mentioned about giving tuition and meeting local fresh grads who managed to save up doing part-time work & attending courses to gain more skills. These local fresh grads probably came from ok-to-do families who worked part time to get more income for themselves or supplement their families’ expenses. Being local fresh graduates, they probably need not toil in menial jobs since they are more educated. 
 

For some mono-intake guys, they may be the solebread winner for their families for whatever reasons. Before NS, they may be earning $1k-2k working long hours doing menial work. Upon enlistment, they can no longer do such jobs due to NS obligations. NS pay won’t be $1k-$2k for them as in most likelihood they lack the attributes to be officers or specialists. Some of them AWOL & return to their former jobs to make more money. They get arrested and get thrown in DB and take longer to complete NS. Vicious cycle. Even if these mono-intake guys are stay-our personnel, how much can they make from 7pm to 7am? Plus they need rest too. We are not talking about unnecessary expenses these mono intake people spend, they are simply trying to survive. 
 

Even if half a billion people has gone through NS, we need to be more understanding and empathetic to the plight of a handful of mono intake guys who have little means or options during NS time to eke out a living. 

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On 11/27/2019 at 6:05 PM, Guest Specialist said:

During my specialist training, there was a very guai lan 3SG, ok looking only, tall and a little buffed. Once I was sick and got Attend C bunk sleeping most of the time and it was relatively quiet as the rest of the company was out training. I woke up needing to pee, and walked to the toilet didn’t hear any sounds at all from the toilet. After I stepped in I saw that 3SG naked in the nearest shower cubicle, he half turned and I saw he was semi erect but what caught my attention was how red it was compared to the rest of his body. He quickly covered his bird and turn away, asked me what I was doing in bunk, to which I explained I was on MC. After I peed I just caught a last look at his butt before heading back to bunk and wondered if he had just cum or was halfway jerking off which kinda explained why no showering sounds when I approached the toilet. Since that incident he never gave me a hard time.

Sgt Chandra was my platoon sergeant. Fit hunk. Once, I was duty, gotta stay overnight. After dinner, I was in the shower. Those days open shower with white tiles and shower heads. No partition. I was soaping myself when Sgt Chandra walked in after his evening jog. All sweat under his PT singlet and black shorts. So hot. I said, good evening sergeant, he said, good evening and chit chat about some shit. He removed all his sweaty clothes on the wooden bench, wet himself next to my shower and started rubbing his pubes and armpits with Lux soap. The sight of his manly muscular bod got me semi hard. So paisei. I quickly rinsed off, got dressed and left, gave excuse I gotta type report. those days cannot play play, will get charged and embarrassed In front of the world. Nowadays I still jerk off imagining him playing with my cock... No wonder I like uniform guys. Hmm...

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Times flies, its been 25 years since i ORD liao.

I was posted to Tekong for 4 months BMT , camp 3 Jaguar company. All i wanted is, quickly finish the 2.5 years, be as low profile as possible. But being a gay, how macho or manly can i be, sure low profile one anyway....

 

Here are some interesting story that happened to me, nothing sexual.

1) Rifle

Everyone was given a rifle then. So many times, we will be in the parade square, doing the cleaning and assembly of rifles. So for me, i only clean the external of the interior parts, thus very fast finish it.

Then my sergeant see me buay song, sitting there dreaming. And he called me, with the rifle. As he starts to dismantle, he took the barrel (internal parts of the rifle) and with his finger, he swipe. DIRT. 

My mind - OH shit. die liao.

And the next unexpected thing he does, he throw the barrel about 5-6 metre away and ask me to pick it up. I totally felt like a dog. Also no choice, lan lan walked and take. When i picked it up, i saw a dent. My heart was SOOOooooo happy then, but i told myself, CANNOT LAUGH. 

So i walked slowly to the sergeant, showed him the dented, his face PANIC!!!! OKOK i cannot smile, MUST show the pitiful, sincere, caring, concern FACE. I MUST!!!!

He tried to assemble it but it can't fit in anymore. 

My heart felt damn shiok. He dare not say anything and there is so many witness and ask me to return back to my position.

When returning the rifles, he asked me to acknowledge to the storeman that i accidentally drop it while cleaning bcas i only first month there. And he tries to cover up, and the storeman says ok. After that day onwards, he never marked me anymore. Before that, he feels i chow keng, act blur.

So now, whenever i recalled how i pretend to be pitiful, caring but laughing in my heart, i feel damn shiok. Perfect acting siahz.....

 

2) Hiding in shadow

It was our first day to learn to throw fake grenade. How fake the grenade is?! i still remember. We were given a drinking plastic bag and 1 coloured masking tape. So we will put some sand in the plastic and use the masking tape to go around it, until it looks like the shape of a grenade. After its done, we were standing in the hot sun, just waiting. I saw my army mate standing, beside its his SHADOW. So i hide within his shadow, avoiding the sun. Suay Suay, another sergeant saw it. He scolded me and said i am SELFISH. I defended myself that i am not, as i am those argumentative type. I where got selfish, i only making use of the opportunity, etc.

Then Sergeant ask me to stand beside the target, and ask each soldier to throw their fake grenade at me. I tried to siam and he shouted my name, DON'T MOVE. Hahhahaa

Luckily no one kena me. So sergeant lan lan, give up. 

 

3) Giving out commands in Malay

As we know, commands are given in Malay language. Kiri Puseng and kenan puseng. THAT'S ALL I KNOW.

Not to mention, before i enlist, i don;t even know what is kiri and kenan or ke-kenan. 

That day was a trench digging day, and i kena aimed as Marching IC. Really suay. We were divided into 4 groups, each group to dig one hole. The sergeant purposely select the weakest one to form one group. And the place we happen to dig, its full of rocks. Keep on kena fucked while other 3 groups already finished.

The sergeant tried to demo to us and he also give up (discreetly). Bcas he also keep on kena rocks. After everyone has finished digging, except us, we were all resting, waiting to go back camp. our group only manage to dig half, bcas its getting dark soon. So being kena arrowed IC, i give command. 

""Platoon, Kiri Puseng"", and all turn left. Suddenly the sergeant shouted, THIS KIND OF COMMAND U ALSO FOLLOW, ALL PUMPING POSITION DOWN. (except me bcas i IC)

my mind is all the vulgarity. All along , others also give such command and nothing happen. Bloody hell, kena aimed again.

As i do not know the full command, the  sergeant teach me ON THE SPOT, while my platoon mates with full pack, are still in pumping position. 

Where got so easy to remember! so much stress!!!!!! Jialat liao. Get ready blanket party liao....... After few mins, the sergeant ask them stand up. Of course, i didn;t remember the commands fully.

 

4) Parents visiting day

My parents give me some fruits, After the visit is over, we are resting in the bunk. I was hiding the fruits behind my folded clothes at the lower shelf and i saw my platoon mate beside me. i ask him - want or not. He never reply and stand there like a statue and dunno give what eye signal. So i continue to pack. Later Oops! sergeant is beside me. Oh! its ROOM! No wonder my mate eye signal me. Luckily no scolding.

 

5) Tekan day.

That time, the master sergeant (Sergeant Chua) tekan us in the room. 40 of us. All throw our boots and pack every single thing into the ali baba bag and throw in the centre of the room.

Of course we will put the items nicely in the centre. But he kicked it into a mess.

i give u 5 mins to put it back into the cupboard and everyone start rushing to find their items. Bags is easy to find bcas got names but the boots is the headache. That time also anyhow grab liao.

When i am packing it into the cupboard, i literally do every hanger, every shelf, every drawer, all nicely packed. But soon, sergeant ask us to clear everything again and all throw into the centre. sigh...

And then packing into the cupboard again. But when the sergeant saw me packing nicely at the drawer, while others anyhow throw inside drawer, he actually stop tekaning us.

Surprising, he is very very nice and taking care of me until i finish BMT. I didn't realise that until the POP day. AFter the parade, he actually pulled me to one side and said - u take care of yourself. Next time i can't take care of u liao. After that, i recalled the past, he really give me extra attention. AFter i finished cleaning my rifle, he allowed me to go canteen as i am among the first to finish it. Amazingly when i go canteen, the rest of mates become very fast. After that, i am posted to Navy, super good life.

 

Care to share yours in this CB period????

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, sgocean93 said:

.....

I know some of you would label me as a stalker and low life, but horniness got the better of me. ...

No way I'll label you a low life stalker, bro. You are a strategist, and a smart one! I would have done the same but without the same results - probably unable to even deduce or locate the right shower haunt.LOL

 

However, I think you missed the opportunity to befriend a bi-buddy for some regular rendezvous. But I believe you guys are fated to meet again soon.:pray:

 

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1 hour ago, yuquidam said:

No way I'll label you a low life stalker, bro. You are a strategist, and a smart one! I would have done the same but without the same results - probably unable to even deduce or locate the right shower haunt.LOL

 

However, I think you missed the opportunity to befriend a bi-buddy for some regular rendezvous. But I believe you guys are fated to meet again soon.:pray:

 

Wow. Such a long dissertation.

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21 hours ago, sgocean93 said:

Not sure what got to me, but I clearly remember muttering “Nice Body .. I.. I want to scrub your big balls” I was in a daze and I didn’t know what the fuck I just said. 

 

Upon hearing what I said I saw him proceed to hold his balls with one hand. It was an awkward 3 seconds that I didn’t dare look at him in the face and didn’t wait for him to say anything. I quickly walked out of the toilet to hide all that embarrassment. 

 

Woah!!! Great story!

When he grabbed his balls after what you said, was he signalling that you could have fun with him, or was he embarassed by what you said so he was doing it in a protective, defensive manner?

 

As yuquidam said above, I believe you will be seeing him again in your next cycle as it's very rare for people to be transferred out during ICT.  🤤

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11 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Woah!!! Great story!

When he grabbed his balls after what you said, was he signalling that you could have fun with him, or was he embarassed by what you said so he was doing it in a protective, defensive manner?

 

As yuquidam said above, I believe you will be seeing him again in your next cycle as it's very rare for people to be transferred out during ICT.  🤤


Honestly, I really don’t know because I didn’t dare look at him when I said those words. But in view that he’s a straight guy... I would assume he covered his pair of low hanging, wet and soapy balls in a bid to protect himself from being molested. Haha I just hope he didn’t go around telling my platoon mates what I said... Still getting me hard at the thought of it. 
 

Edit: Before anybody starts getting the wrong idea, it was never my intention to molest him or force myself on him. If not I wouldn’t have walked out almost immediately without waiting for him to react. 
 

But I’m also curious why would he apologise upon letting another “bro” see his naked self... 

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19 hours ago, sgocean93 said:


Honestly, I really don’t know because I didn’t dare look at him when I said those words. But in view that he’s a straight guy... I would assume he covered his pair of low hanging, wet and soapy balls in a bid to protect himself from being molested. Haha I just hope he didn’t go around telling my platoon mates what I said... Still getting me hard at the thought of it. 
 

Edit: Before anybody starts getting the wrong idea, it was never my intention to molest him or force myself on him. If not I wouldn’t have walked out almost immediately without waiting for him to react. 
 

But I’m also curious why would he apologise upon letting another “bro” see his naked self... 

Coz he felt paiseh that he didn't close the door. I mean not all men are comfortable showering in the open and letting them be seen and exposed. What's so hard to understand? Just coz you're comfortable with it doesn't make the next guy comfortable

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14 minutes ago, go-geek said:

Coz he felt paiseh that he didn't close the door. I mean not all men are comfortable showering in the open and letting them be seen and exposed. What's so hard to understand? Just coz you're comfortable with it doesn't make the next guy comfortable

Then why did he leave the door open in the first place... 

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49 minutes ago, sgocean93 said:

Then why did he leave the door open in the first place... 

I think he probably saw your shocked or surprised look. And being a nice guy he just apologised for not closing the door. Do not think it's necessarily of anything deeper. But it seems he likes to befriend you. Whether he is bisexual or attracted to you is anyone's guess. He could be straight but gay friendly and might have guessed you're gay. Or he could be bi and hope you're too. Hopefully, you could unravel the truth in your next ICT with some good news....

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11 hours ago, sgocean93 said:

Then why did he leave the door open in the first place... 

if everyone booked out for the night and there are fewer people, I might shower the door open too. Doesn’t have to mean anything. The “sorry” might be just a “oh I am caught by surprise and I wasn’t expecting anyone to be here” reaction. 

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5 minutes ago, Rice60640 said:

if everyone booked out for the night and there are fewer people, I might shower the door open too. Doesn’t have to mean anything. The “sorry” might be just a “oh I am caught by surprise and I wasn’t expecting anyone to be here” reaction. 

 

I agree. It's likely an instinctive reaction on his part.

 

It's like, if a female colleague walks into your office, and you are changing your clothes halfway, you will also immediately say "sorry" to her without thinking, cos you allowed her to see you half-naked unexpectedly  😝

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On 5/4/2020 at 3:12 AM, sgocean93 said:


Honestly, I really don’t know because I didn’t dare look at him when I said those words. But in view that he’s a straight guy... I would assume he covered his pair of low hanging, wet and soapy balls in a bid to protect himself from being molested. Haha I just hope he didn’t go around telling my platoon mates what I said... Still getting me hard at the thought of it. 
 

Edit: Before anybody starts getting the wrong idea, it was never my intention to molest him or force myself on him. If not I wouldn’t have walked out almost immediately without waiting for him to react. 
 

 

Thanks for replying!

It's okay; we understand  😁

 

It does seem like he didn't bear any grudge against you. Maybe you can try to get to know him better during the next ICT cycle, if you are okay with talking to him.

 

If he doesn't mention the bathing incident, then don't bring it up also. Just let it slide.

 

Good luck!

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16 minutes ago, Rice60640 said:

if everyone booked out for the night and there are fewer people, I might shower the door open too. Doesn’t have to mean anything. 

 

True.

When I am alone in my office toilet, I also always leave the cubicle door open when I am doing my business. It creates more space, and it feels more airy also.

 

I will only close it when I hear someone coming in. Because you need a key to open the toilet door, so I usually have some time to shut the cubicle door before anyone enters.

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56 minutes ago, thatbrownmusxle said:

Thinking about the time I was made to be on duty for the weekend with this other guy, Sam, who’s serving his 7 extras. The only officer available with the both of us, LTA Fadli, simply told us to contact him if we had an issue at the DO Room. . .

 

I saw a glimpse of his taint and hairy ass. A cute pink hole hidden behind a nest of hair. Oh what I would do to plunge my face into it. But that was when he pulled up his tights back up and said, “I think I’ll do it upstairs.”

 

Fuck, what a missed opportunity. With that, he pressed down on my shoulder and stood up, one hair grabbing his packed dinner and the other hand balancing himself on the wall. Moments later, I see him climb up the stairs and he’s gone. Fuck. I was this close to sucking his dick.

 

Walao!!! Your writing skills are damn good!!!!  👍 👏 

 

I think he is one of those very straight type of guys so I wouldn't say it was a "missed opportunity".

 

Quite likely, he would not have given you any opportunity at all had he decided to be stripped by you. And worse, if you had attempted anything on him, he seems like the kind of guy who would blow up the matter by reporting you  😱

 

Still, you can admire him from afar but just be careful not to cross the line with guys like him.

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7 minutes ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Walao!!! Your writing skills are damn good!!!!  👍 👏 

 

I think he is one of those very straight type of guys so I wouldn't say it was a "missed opportunity".

 

Quite likely, he would not have given you any opportunity at all had he decided to be stripped by you. And worse, if you had attempted anything on him, he seems like the kind of guy who would blow up the matter by reporting you  😱

 

Still, you can admire him from afar but just be careful not to cross the line with guys like him.

Ya,man. I'm hard now pressing my cock against my bed while reading this.  Damn 

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20 hours ago, sgocean93 said:

Then why did he leave the door open in the first place... 

Maybe coz he thought he'd be alone showering. You don't expect him to check the entire toilet to check if he's alone right? Why must overthink

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On 5/2/2020 at 5:52 PM, sgocean93 said:

When I looked up and upon eye contact, he looked surprised and he immediately said “sorry!” to me. But he didn’t attempt to cover up. 

 

Question: why would he apologise? Would a normal straight guy say sorry to another guy when his naked body is exposed in the shower?

 

One of his arms were raised and on his head, with his hair drenched in shampoo and some of it were seeping into his eyes. I think I stood there for another second or two and took a quick glance at his bod — it was so lean and whiter than other parts of his body which were normally exposed to the sun. Not sure what got to me, but I clearly remember muttering “Nice Body .. I.. I want to scrub your big balls” I was in a daze and I didn’t know what the fuck I just said. 

 

Upon hearing what I said I saw him proceed to hold his balls with one hand.

His gaydar is probably engaged and he sees you more as a kuniang hence the apology as a gentleman!

 

His not covering up immediately when he saw you seems to suggest that he is a little bit of an exhibitionist and likes you to ogle him until your comment about washing his balls startled him!

 

Most men are very protective of their balls as it is their most vulnerable spot and therefore he instinctively protected them.

 

It is interesting to note that he didn't cover his cock since most men would like their cocks played with.

 

His subsequent friendly behaviour after out-pro seems to suggest that he would like to get to know you better either because he is curious or because you caught his eye, perhaps with a view towards some nsa fun!

 

But do exercise caution!  Flirt seductively with him by all means but let him make the 1st intimate move.

 

You'll never know that he may be quite religious and keen to "cure" you because if that is his case then he would never make the 1st intimate move.

 

If your seductive flirting turns him on and he makes the 1st intimate move, then have nsa fun!  Just don't expect him to forsake his fiancé and you won't get your heart broken!

 

Good Luck!

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3 hours ago, Guest BlueBlack said:

Wah... all the writers here are potential scriptwriters for some BL dramas... hahaha

 

Last time there was a BW member called Marky who used to post stories under the thread "Marky's Life Stories".

 

He wrote very well, and his stories were usually in several parts. He would post one part every few days as each part was quite long (but very well-written).

 

Many of his stories were based on true accounts but with names changed. 

 

Pity he doesn't write anymore. Really liked his stories. And yes, they are way better than the trash you see on Mediacorp Ch 8.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Last time there was a BW member called Marky who used to post stories under the thread "Marky's Life Stories".

 

He wrote very well, and his stories were usually in several parts. He would post one part every few days as each part was quite long (but very well-written).

 

Many of his stories were based on true accounts but with names changed. 

 

Pity he doesn't write anymore. Really liked his stories. And yes, they are way better than the trash you see on Mediacorp Ch 8.

 

 

Never knew about this thread before by Marky. Now reading through for the first time. Thanks!

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On 7/6/2019 at 9:33 AM, Fox92 said:

Just had some fun during my two weeks ICT. No time to JO over the weekends so was super horny when booking in.

 

It was my first time having fun in camp with a dude from another unit (was a good boy during my nsf days, which was such a waste) so I decided to just suck him in the showering cubicle. One thing lead to another as he ate my ass and after much coaxing (with more eating and fingering) I complied to anal.

 

It was so scary because halfway through so many people came into the toilet (presumably after a game/PT) and am trying not to moan as he pounded me slow and deep (had to switch off the shower because the water makes the piak piak sound lol). Lots of kissing to stifle our moans and it was rather intimate for an ONS. 

 

He whispered that he's gonna cum as he fucked me from the back and shot his 4-day load all over my ass once he pulled out. I turned around after he expended most of his cum and suck out his remaining cum, watching him spasm till he begged me to stop.

 

I then told him to carry me as I humped my dick on his abs. I lost it when he started fingering me and rubbing the sweet spot so I came while continuously humping him and grabbing his head down to my neck. We came so much that we had trouble trying to make the visible cum go down the drain.

Wah. So slutty and shiok! Cum on my face. Don't wash down the drain. So sayang

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On 5/25/2020 at 3:10 PM, Since u r here said:

Quite true abt mob n icT

 

Sargent Chandra always talk cock with the reservists. One night duty, saw him sucking cock of this hot reservist... Haiz... Why not me???

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I once had an experience with a dude from another office department in camp during national service. Was helping him with some stuff in his office late at night - no one was in camp. Still remember seeing his bright blue renoma briefs through the high slit PT shorts. Little did i know the night will end up with a load releasing session. 

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1 hour ago, boyboy90 said:

I once had an experience with a dude from another office department in camp during national service. Was helping him with some stuff in his office late at night - no one was in camp. Still remember seeing his bright blue renoma briefs through the high slit PT shorts. Little did i know the night will end up with a load releasing session. 

Tell us in details la. 

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I was doing my duty in camp on one of the weekdays and Tim (not his real name) was staying over in camp because he had to rush out some paperwork for a major event happening the following day. Since I was doing my duty in camp and didn’t had much to do, Tim had asked if I could help him with some of his work and accompany him in the office because he was all alone. I agreed. 
 

Tim wasn’t a very good-looking guy. He was decent looking and had a geeky look (because he wore specs) which made him quite cute. He didn’t have that muscle build that many would gawk at, but definitely was lean based on what I saw when he was in PT attire. 
 

When I arrived in the office, it was slightly past 11.30pm and he was comfortably dressed in a tank top and PT shorts, those with the high slit kind. He was busy with his paper work but looked up to say hi and told me he needed help with looking through some documents.

 

I started helping immediately and we both had some small talk just to catch up on life. I took glances at Tim as he was working and saw how defined his arms were. As he was leaning forward towards the table writing some stuff, his loose tank top (those with big arm hole) revealed his chest. I took the opportunity to steal glances and thinking to myself how cute he was. We’ve been friends for several months but assumed we were both straight. Nothing happened and we continued working. 
 

At one point, Tim raised his legs to put his feet on the chair. The slid opened up wide enough for me to see a bright blue briefs from the sides. That really caught my attention. His legs didn’t have much hair but grew more as it went up his thigh. 
 

Somehow, the sight of the geeky lean boy sporting a bright blue briefs was stirring some reaction in me. 
 

... to be continued

 

 

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3 hours ago, boyboy90 said:

I was doing my duty in camp on one of the weekdays and Tim (not his real name) was staying over in camp because he had to rush out some paperwork for a major event happening the following day. Since I was doing my duty in camp and didn’t had much to do, Tim had asked if I could help him with some of his work and accompany him in the office because he was all alone. I agreed. 
 

Tim wasn’t a very good-looking guy. He was decent looking and had a geeky look (because he wore specs) which made him quite cute. He didn’t have that muscle build that many would gawk at, but definitely was lean based on what I saw when he was in PT attire. 
 

When I arrived in the office, it was slightly past 11.30pm and he was comfortably dressed in a tank top and PT shorts, those with the high slit kind. He was busy with his paper work but looked up to say hi and told me he needed help with looking through some documents.

 

I started helping immediately and we both had some small talk just to catch up on life. I took glances at Tim as he was working and saw how defined his arms were. As he was leaning forward towards the table writing some stuff, his loose tank top (those with big arm hole) revealed his chest. I took the opportunity to steal glances and thinking to myself how cute he was. We’ve been friends for several months but assumed we were both straight. Nothing happened and we continued working. 
 

At one point, Tim raised his legs to put his feet on the chair. The slid opened up wide enough for me to see a bright blue briefs from the sides. That really caught my attention. His legs didn’t have much hair but grew more as it went up his thigh. 
 

Somehow, the sight of the geeky lean boy sporting a bright blue briefs was stirring some reaction in me. 
 

... to be continued

 

 

Another serial.....oh please. I prefer a movie.

 

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On 6/25/2020 at 10:43 PM, boyboy90 said:

[continued - I stopped halfway cos I needed to head out]

 

So I jokingly told him, “eh you purposely want everyone to see your bright blue underwear ah? Very distracting leh!”. 

 

To which he responded “aiya both guys got nothing wrong what. Not as if you don’t wear any underwear. Blue also nice colour what” 

 

He stood up and lowered the front of his PT shorts revealing his bright blue renoma briefs. Wow his bulge was quite big. And then he asked me whether I wore boxers or briefs. I told him I wear trunks and he asked if he could see because he was considering changing to it. 

 

I was reluctant at first because I was getting abit hard. But he persuaded me by saying that it was just the two of us in the office and there were no one with access to the office. So I stood up and pulled down my shorts to show him my black Hollister trunks. My semi erected dick was quite obvious as my trunks was slightly tight. He asked if I was hard which I said “abit, because long time never release”

 

At this time, I could see that he was slowly getting hard in his briefs. He then said he too didn’t release for 2 days and asked if we should just release it in the office since no one was around. 

 

He started rubbing his bulge and it got me raging hard watching. His erection was not very big maybe about 5.5 inch. He took it out from the side of his briefs and showed me his uncut erection. He continued stroking his meat and I took mine out to stroke too. He came closer to me and our dicks were almost touching. His breathing got harder as he stroke faster. My precum was leaking so much watching him stroke his meat and his soft moaning through his heavy breathing. And then he said he was gonna cum and he shot his load which landed on my body and on my trunks. I stroked faster and shot, similarly landing on his body and his blue briefs. We laughed it off, and wiped the cum off, removing all evidence on the floor. 

 

Recently saw him on Grindr, so I guess it’s confirmed he’s one of us. 

Army office have cctv in case you don't know. 

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Hello everyone. For today's piece, I have interviewed a guy who wishes to be known as "Andrew"  (not his real name) about his time in NS. You see, all Singaporean males have to serve national service, it is conscription and we all have different experiences: some better, others worse. This all depends on the vocation we get, the kind of people we end up working with in our units and a lot of this just boils down to luck or fate. I have chatted with Andrew several times via my blog's comment sections and am friends with him on Facebook now - I just wanted to stress that I am just interviewing him: there is no way I could verify the facts of his story (from quite a while ago), but we both agreed that it was worth sharing because it does show a different side of national service.

Limpeh: So Andrew, where shall we begin? Can you tell me when did you serve your national service please?
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Andrew and I served NS back in the 1990s.

Andrew: Can I not be too specific about the dates? I don't want people to be able to identify me or the others involved in my story - let's just say I ORDed before 2000.

Limpeh: So this was a while ago, your experience would have been probably more similar to mine as I served from 1995 to 1997. Can we talk a bit about your background? What were you doing before you enlisted?

Andrew: Before enlisting, I had done my A levels. Let's just say I got good results and was bound for university in Australia - that was the thing that got me through NS, it was looking forward to going to university eventually.
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Andrew was looking forward to going to university

Limpeh: So let's move on to the specifics of your story: this happened when you were in your unit...

Andrew: I was a PES C2 soldier you see, that meant I was combat unfit, I did clerical work. In my unit, it meant a lot to be able to pull your weight, get the work done and not to be seen as a slacker. You see, in my unit, it didn't matter what your official vocation was - when we got busy, it was all hands on deck and you were expected to pitch in, help out, pull your weight and nobody rested until the work got done. Well, as you can imagine, given that I was a clerk, I was seen as pretty useless by the rest. I wanted to help, but...

Limpeh: So you struggled with the work.

Andrew: I'm afraid so. It was awful as the guys there were unsympathetic - it was not like, "oh you're new, watch me fix this and learn from me". It was like, "oi what is wrong with you? Why haven't you fixed it yet? What's your problem?"

Limpeh: I see. And how did that affect your relationship between you and your colleagues in your unit then?
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Andrew found life in the army very hard.

Andrew: I had developed this reputation as the slacker... the lazy bum who didn't pull his weight. I didn't have any friends and it was a lonely time. People hated me, I was the only A level kid there and it was mostly a Mandarin and Hokkien speaking environment. I don't speak Hokkien and my Mandarin isn't great - I would try to speak to the others in Mandarin of course but they would always answer in English, that felt like they didn't even allow me to behave like one of them. There were times they picked on me...

Limpeh: Give me an example of that Andrew.

Andrew: Okay, once there was this big oil spillage in the garage and I was told to clean it up. I saw that there were plenty of others who were sitting around either smoking or just talking - and I thought, shit, why me? Why do I have to clean it up and not the others? If we all did it together, then it would be done in like 10 minutes or less - but if I did it alone then I would have to spend a long time doing it. So I suggested that we clean it up together and people just shouted insults at me, telling me that I was just lazy, that I didn't work... I caved into pressure and cleaned that up on my own. And it's shit like that, everyday... a few times a day. What could I do? It was everyone versus me.

Then one day, as I stayed back late to do some stupid task that no one else wanted to do, I locked up the garage and returned the keys to the office, I stumbled upon my officer there. Let's call him Fries, because he likes to eat French Fries and was often spotted eating his favourite snack which was sold at the unit's canteen. He's Chinese, like me. I think he was on guard duty that night and so he asked me to sit down next to him and I thought, oh shit, what kind of trouble am I in now? His office had air-con, so it was just nice to get out of the heat for a while. He asked me how I was coping and I just said it was fine, I didn't think it was the time to complain, I didn't want to make a fuss. We then talked about some mundane stuff about work in the camp and before I knew it, he arm was on my shoulder and I felt very comfortable. He then asked me, "you okay?" I nodded and he proceeded to kiss me. It took me by surprise but then, after having had a whole day of people treating me like crap, it was nice to have someone want to kiss me, to be tender with me. We then proceeded to have sex and yeah, that was my first time. You never forget your first time.
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Yes there are gays in the military - get over it.

Limpeh: Did you know that you're gay before that encounter?

Andrew: I suppose I did at the back of my mind, but just because you know you're attracted to guys doesn't mean that you do go out and find someone to have sex with. Loads of Singaporean guys are virgins at the age of 18 or 19 when they go to NS because they just haven't had sex yet - I don't think my situation was that uncommon.

Limpeh: What about Fries - is he gay?

Andrew: That's the thing - he is married with children, he has two daughters and keeps photos of his wife and children on his table at work. Everyone knows him as this married man, this family man and once in a while, his wife even joins him at the events at the unit. Hence it took me by surprise - but you know, he wasn't bad looking for a man his age and I was incredibly lonely at that point in time. I remember how good it felt to have someone hugging me, holding me, asking me if I was okay. I needed that. I wasn't getting any emotional support from anywhere else, he was the only person who could see what I was going through and cared enough to bother doing something about it.

Limpeh: So you lost your virginity to him?

Andrew: Yes I did. And no regrets. It was never something I expected of course, but such is life. I had always thought that I would have had the chance to explore my sexuality with a bit more freedom when I went to university and did not expect this during NS. Fries and I had nothing in common - he was older, Chinese-speaking and a regular in the SAF. I had always thought that I would have ended up with someone who was a lot more similar to myself, but when the opportunity presented itself, I just thought, why not? It didn't feel wrong, it felt good. After we had sex, we just lay there for a while, he was holding me in his arms and we were both exhausted. He then told me if anyone tried to bully me in the unit, that I should tell him. I said no, I was not being bullied and he said, "you think I'm stupid or blind? I see you kena bully all the time. Just be honest with me lah, if you don't speak up then how can I even begin to try to help you?"
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Limpeh: Did you ever think about declaring that you were gay officially, aka 'declaring 302'?

Andrew: No. I was a virgin when I enlisted - I didn't think anything about my sexuality, it wasn't an issue for me back in JC as I was a geek obsessed with my studying and hobbies. It was not like I was sexually active, quite the opposite. So the whole gay thing was never ever an issue for me, it was at the back of my mind but it was just easier not to have to think about it. I don't think my experience was that unique - I was only 18, after all.

Limpeh: So did this become a regular thing?

Andrew: Yes. It was a strange kind of relationship.- normally in front of everyone, I would make sure I treated him with respect, he was cold and indifferent towards me but when people tried to bully me, he would step in and did just enough to make sure that the others knew not to cross the line. He kept me close to him, it started when he said he needed more help in the office with paperwork for a few days - that turned into a few weeks, then a few months and before I knew it, I was permanently sitting in his office and life improved substantially. I felt protected, I wasn't worried about being bullied anymore. Life got easier for me in camp. And I was getting laid regularly, which was a bonus... It was a distraction from the daily grind in the unit which was boring as anything.

Limpeh: So when did you guys have sex?

Andrew: Usually after work, when no one else was around and he would lock his office and we would do it there. No one else knew - clearly he was married with kids. I'm not the kind of flamboyant, loud gay anyway. I don't ever think they realized that I was having sex with Fries. They just thought that Fries found it useful to have a secretary handling his paperwork and to be fair, there was a lot of paperwork to keep me very busy and I was good at the admin stuff - I worked hard. So by that token, yes I was pulling my weight in the camp and people could see that I was staying later than them to finish my work. Well, I was staying back to wait for everyone to go so I could have sex with Fries.
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Andrew is grateful to Fries - is he right or wrong to feel that way?

Limpeh: Was there any romance between you and Fries?

Andrew: No. It was strange. It was not like I ever saw Fries outside the camp. We didn't ever say, "hey let's go do something fun together this weekend", he was married after all, he had to go home to spend time with his wife and kids. I did my own thing on the weekends, I would go down to Orchard Road, eat at nice places, go shopping, see old friends from my JC - I didn't need Fries on the weekends. He clearly liked sex with men, he's gay... or bisexual at least and I don't know if he had much sex with his wife anymore. I once asked a question about his daughters and he warned me sternly that I was not to ask questions like that. I just said, "Yes sir." It was clear who was in charge - he was of superior rank after all, I was under his protection, I needed him more than he needed me. The fact that I enjoyed the sex with him was a bonus - I wonder if I would have done the same if he had been old, fat and ugly: would I have been able to do the same thing, just to get a better time in NS?  Probably not. I liked him, it a strange way, but yes I liked him. And he liked me very much too, we had some good times together.

Limpeh: And did he like you too, in the same way?

Andrew: Yes... Yes, I think so. He could have had other guys in the camp who were gay, but he picked me.

Limpeh: Do you think he had abused his position of authority? Did Fries do anything wrong?

Andrew: No, I consented to it all. He never ever forced himself on me, I totally allowed him to do what he wanted and in return, he took care of me in camp. So no, I don't think he did anything wrong at all. He was a good man, really.
 
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Somehow, Fries and Andrew were a good match at the time.

Limpeh: Don't you think that the system should have protected you from the bullying, that Fries as your officer should have protected you from day one, before he started having sex with you? Don't you think that it was wrong that he only started protecting you after your sexual relationship began?

Andrew: That's the thing about NS - I didn't ask too many questions. I just went from day to day, hoping for the best, expecting the worst and of course, the answer to your question is that in an ideal world, Fries should have stepped in to protect me as my commanding office from day one - but he didn't. But also, I didn't ask for help. Part of me realized that I wasn't in primary school anymore and I couldn't run to Fries the same way a primary one kid would run to his teacher for help. Another part of me was just cynical about him being willing and able to help me if I had asked for help. Besides, I wasn't the only one who was getting bullied - there were others as well and Fries did nothing to help them. There were two Indian guys who were suffering so much racism from the Chinese guys and Fries just totally ignored the situation. I think there was the expectation in NS for us to learn to get along with each other.

Limpeh: And do you feel that you did learn how to get along with others better? I certainly did. Did you?

Andrew: I suppose I did. I had grossly underestimated how difficult NS was going to be and I think many guys make the same mistake: they are fresh out of JC and they are going into a totally different kind of environment where they are expected to function as adults. You either have to learn very quickly, grow up very quickly or you can end up totally miserable and suffer a lot. I was unprepared, I was blur, naive, ignorant. It is a sink or swim situation - I would have drowned but Fries pulled me out of the water and saved me. You know... I am grateful to him. Very grateful indeed.
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Limpeh: Did anyone else know about your relationship with Fries back then?

Andrew: Yes I did - but in Australia where I studied. You're not going to believe this - I told my parents too.

Limpeh: Really!

Andrew: Yeah my mother is this PAP-voting loyal PAP supporter and after I had ORDed, I felt I needed to get it off my chest as I couldn't tell anyone in camp what was going on because it would be a betrayal to Fries. But my parents, that's a different story. I was coming out to my parents and I just felt like getting everything off my chest. There was a part of me that wanted to show my mother just how broken the system is: she had this impression that NS was good or you, that it was the greatest gift from the benevolent PAP to nurture and educate our Singaporean men and that everything that gone on in NS was perfect. I just had to say, "oh mum, I was the officer's lover and had sex with him everyday, that's how I got through NS. That's what goes on during NS."

Limpeh: How did she react?

Andrew: She was unable to find the words to talk about it. I remember she cried a lot. I don't know what she was crying for - whether she was upset about what happened to me or if I had attempted to shatter her image of how perfect the Singapore government was. My point was, "if this can happen to your son, think about what can happen to other Singaporeans and you have the PAP to thank for the broken system". But unfortunately, her only response was just crying - we never actually talked about it. I talked, she listened and then ran away crying without saying anything. Up till this day, she has never spoken a word about it. It has been so many years, so I'm not going to bring it up again.
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Was it right for Andrew to tell his parents about this?

Limpeh: Was it fair to do this to her? After all, my mother isn't particularly well educated and she's kinda simple - like a child and I just don't even try to engage her on some issues knowing full well that she's not able to process the information like an adult. Crying was her way of showing you that she cared, but she just didn't know what to do?

Andrew: No. I don't think she was that stupid. I wouldn't have done so if I didn't think she could handle it.

Limpeh: Were you not worried that she would run to the authorities, threatening to report what happen to them? I can count the number of ways Fries could have gotten into a lot of trouble...

Andrew: No my parents won't do that. I think it is an Asian thing - they do not want to bring shame to the family by telling anyone about this. I have told others when I was studying in Australia but that's Australia, they are like, oh cool, older man, sexy military officer, nice - I bet he looks hot in his uniform! Like there was no shock on their part at all, they just saw it as just totally acceptable. And maybe it should be. Where I am working now, there is a woman who slept her way to the top and that's just the way of the modern world. There is a huge gulf between the world I grew up in and the way my parents envision it to be - perhaps that's just the generation gap. Perhaps that's just my parents being too Singaporean, but really, what can I do? Well, I have learnt to accept the things in life that I just cannot change.
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Studying in Australia gave Andrtew a new perspective.

Limpeh: Did you keep in touch with Fries? Did you see him after your ORD?

Andrew: No. Let's get real here. We never ever met outside the camp. It was just sex. Once in a while he would buy me a packet of his favourite French Fries if he was having some and there were a few times when he gave me a lift to the nearest bus stop when we left camp - but that was it. I never addressed him by his first name, it was always 'Sir' and I think he knew surprisingly little about me and vice versa. We were lovers, sure - but were we friends? I don't think so. On my ORD day, he was fairly sanguine about it all. He was like, "have fun at university, good luck! Remember to come back and visit us some time!" But of course, I never went back to see him ever again.

Limpeh: Did you ever miss him or think about him?

Andrew: Not really. I am grateful, I think he threw me a lifeline when I needed it the most. I was depressed, isolated, very lonely and he gave me the compassion, understanding and companionship that I so desperately needed then. The experience gave me the confidence to go on and date other guys and start feeling a lot more confident about my sexuality. He was always kind to me, he took care of me in a way that no one else had done before - he showed me what it was like to be in a relationship, of sorts...

Limpeh: Did the fact that he was married bother you? What about his wife, do you know anything about her?
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Do you want some fries with that?

Andrew: No, it didn't bother him, why should it bother me? You'll be amazed how many seemingly happily married men have affairs. He didn't want to talk about it and I supposed if they were really that happy, he wouldn't be looking for a lover outside his marriage. I did wonder why he got married and had kids if he was clearly attracted to men. But that is his problem, not mine. I clearly was able to offer him something he couldn't get from his wife. I don't know anything about her, so I can't really comment on what kind of person she was. I think Fries would have probably taken another gay lover the moment the opportunity presented itself - especially given how it is so much easier to find gay sex online these days with all these dating sites and apps, so I have no doubt that Fries is still looking for men today.

Limpeh: Finally Andrew, why do you want to share your story today?

Andrew: I guess it is because it was so long ago and so few people actually knew of the story. My parents have managed to forget that I have ever told them - well, they have blocked it out of their memories. My friends in Australia treated it like some erotic fantasy involving hot gays in uniform and I was very careful whom I told in Singapore as I wanted to protected the identity of Fries. So much time has passed and I didn't want to forget what had happened - I feel like if I didn't tell the story, then even I would forget about it and I don't want to. I guess there's a part of me that wanted to share the story to immortalize it in some way, to make a record of it as there had been none before. Maybe some people will be interested, maybe they won't at all but I just wanted to get it off my chest for one final time.
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What do you think of Andrew's story?


Limpeh: Andrew, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with me.

Andrew: Thanks.

*Some details, dates and names have been changed to protect the identity of Fries and Andrew. Our intention has always been to share the story without revealing the identity of those involved. Many thanks for reading. 

 

Posted 23rd July 2015 by Limpeh Foreign Talent

 

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16 minutes ago, GachiMuchi said:
Hello everyone. For today's piece, I have interviewed a guy who wishes to be known as "Andrew"  (not his real name) about his time in NS. You see, all Singaporean males have to serve national service, it is conscription and we all have different experiences: some better, others worse. This all depends on the vocation we get, the kind of people we end up working with in our units and a lot of this just boils down to luck or fate. I have chatted with Andrew several times via my blog's comment sections and am friends with him on Facebook now - I just wanted to stress that I am just interviewing him: there is no way I could verify the facts of his story (from quite a while ago), but we both agreed that it was worth sharing because it does show a different side of national service.

Limpeh: So Andrew, where shall we begin? Can you tell me when did you serve your national service please?
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Andrew and I served NS back in the 1990s.

Andrew: Can I not be too specific about the dates? I don't want people to be able to identify me or the others involved in my story - let's just say I ORDed before 2000.

Limpeh: So this was a while ago, your experience would have been probably more similar to mine as I served from 1995 to 1997. Can we talk a bit about your background? What were you doing before you enlisted?

Andrew: Before enlisting, I had done my A levels. Let's just say I got good results and was bound for university in Australia - that was the thing that got me through NS, it was looking forward to going to university eventually.
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Andrew was looking forward to going to university

Limpeh: So let's move on to the specifics of your story: this happened when you were in your unit...

Andrew: I was a PES C2 soldier you see, that meant I was combat unfit, I did clerical work. In my unit, it meant a lot to be able to pull your weight, get the work done and not to be seen as a slacker. You see, in my unit, it didn't matter what your official vocation was - when we got busy, it was all hands on deck and you were expected to pitch in, help out, pull your weight and nobody rested until the work got done. Well, as you can imagine, given that I was a clerk, I was seen as pretty useless by the rest. I wanted to help, but...

Limpeh: So you struggled with the work.

Andrew: I'm afraid so. It was awful as the guys there were unsympathetic - it was not like, "oh you're new, watch me fix this and learn from me". It was like, "oi what is wrong with you? Why haven't you fixed it yet? What's your problem?"

Limpeh: I see. And how did that affect your relationship between you and your colleagues in your unit then?
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Andrew found life in the army very hard.

Andrew: I had developed this reputation as the slacker... the lazy bum who didn't pull his weight. I didn't have any friends and it was a lonely time. People hated me, I was the only A level kid there and it was mostly a Mandarin and Hokkien speaking environment. I don't speak Hokkien and my Mandarin isn't great - I would try to speak to the others in Mandarin of course but they would always answer in English, that felt like they didn't even allow me to behave like one of them. There were times they picked on me...

Limpeh: Give me an example of that Andrew.

Andrew: Okay, once there was this big oil spillage in the garage and I was told to clean it up. I saw that there were plenty of others who were sitting around either smoking or just talking - and I thought, shit, why me? Why do I have to clean it up and not the others? If we all did it together, then it would be done in like 10 minutes or less - but if I did it alone then I would have to spend a long time doing it. So I suggested that we clean it up together and people just shouted insults at me, telling me that I was just lazy, that I didn't work... I caved into pressure and cleaned that up on my own. And it's shit like that, everyday... a few times a day. What could I do? It was everyone versus me.

Then one day, as I stayed back late to do some stupid task that no one else wanted to do, I locked up the garage and returned the keys to the office, I stumbled upon my officer there. Let's call him Fries, because he likes to eat French Fries and was often spotted eating his favourite snack which was sold at the unit's canteen. He's Chinese, like me. I think he was on guard duty that night and so he asked me to sit down next to him and I thought, oh shit, what kind of trouble am I in now? His office had air-con, so it was just nice to get out of the heat for a while. He asked me how I was coping and I just said it was fine, I didn't think it was the time to complain, I didn't want to make a fuss. We then talked about some mundane stuff about work in the camp and before I knew it, he arm was on my shoulder and I felt very comfortable. He then asked me, "you okay?" I nodded and he proceeded to kiss me. It took me by surprise but then, after having had a whole day of people treating me like crap, it was nice to have someone want to kiss me, to be tender with me. We then proceeded to have sex and yeah, that was my first time. You never forget your first time.
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Yes there are gays in the military - get over it.

Limpeh: Did you know that you're gay before that encounter?

Andrew: I suppose I did at the back of my mind, but just because you know you're attracted to guys doesn't mean that you do go out and find someone to have sex with. Loads of Singaporean guys are virgins at the age of 18 or 19 when they go to NS because they just haven't had sex yet - I don't think my situation was that uncommon.

Limpeh: What about Fries - is he gay?

Andrew: That's the thing - he is married with children, he has two daughters and keeps photos of his wife and children on his table at work. Everyone knows him as this married man, this family man and once in a while, his wife even joins him at the events at the unit. Hence it took me by surprise - but you know, he wasn't bad looking for a man his age and I was incredibly lonely at that point in time. I remember how good it felt to have someone hugging me, holding me, asking me if I was okay. I needed that. I wasn't getting any emotional support from anywhere else, he was the only person who could see what I was going through and cared enough to bother doing something about it.

Limpeh: So you lost your virginity to him?

Andrew: Yes I did. And no regrets. It was never something I expected of course, but such is life. I had always thought that I would have had the chance to explore my sexuality with a bit more freedom when I went to university and did not expect this during NS. Fries and I had nothing in common - he was older, Chinese-speaking and a regular in the SAF. I had always thought that I would have ended up with someone who was a lot more similar to myself, but when the opportunity presented itself, I just thought, why not? It didn't feel wrong, it felt good. After we had sex, we just lay there for a while, he was holding me in his arms and we were both exhausted. He then told me if anyone tried to bully me in the unit, that I should tell him. I said no, I was not being bullied and he said, "you think I'm stupid or blind? I see you kena bully all the time. Just be honest with me lah, if you don't speak up then how can I even begin to try to help you?"
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Limpeh: Did you ever think about declaring that you were gay officially, aka 'declaring 302'?

Andrew: No. I was a virgin when I enlisted - I didn't think anything about my sexuality, it wasn't an issue for me back in JC as I was a geek obsessed with my studying and hobbies. It was not like I was sexually active, quite the opposite. So the whole gay thing was never ever an issue for me, it was at the back of my mind but it was just easier not to have to think about it. I don't think my experience was that unique - I was only 18, after all.

Limpeh: So did this become a regular thing?

Andrew: Yes. It was a strange kind of relationship.- normally in front of everyone, I would make sure I treated him with respect, he was cold and indifferent towards me but when people tried to bully me, he would step in and did just enough to make sure that the others knew not to cross the line. He kept me close to him, it started when he said he needed more help in the office with paperwork for a few days - that turned into a few weeks, then a few months and before I knew it, I was permanently sitting in his office and life improved substantially. I felt protected, I wasn't worried about being bullied anymore. Life got easier for me in camp. And I was getting laid regularly, which was a bonus... It was a distraction from the daily grind in the unit which was boring as anything.

Limpeh: So when did you guys have sex?

Andrew: Usually after work, when no one else was around and he would lock his office and we would do it there. No one else knew - clearly he was married with kids. I'm not the kind of flamboyant, loud gay anyway. I don't ever think they realized that I was having sex with Fries. They just thought that Fries found it useful to have a secretary handling his paperwork and to be fair, there was a lot of paperwork to keep me very busy and I was good at the admin stuff - I worked hard. So by that token, yes I was pulling my weight in the camp and people could see that I was staying later than them to finish my work. Well, I was staying back to wait for everyone to go so I could have sex with Fries.
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Andrew is grateful to Fries - is he right or wrong to feel that way?

Limpeh: Was there any romance between you and Fries?

Andrew: No. It was strange. It was not like I ever saw Fries outside the camp. We didn't ever say, "hey let's go do something fun together this weekend", he was married after all, he had to go home to spend time with his wife and kids. I did my own thing on the weekends, I would go down to Orchard Road, eat at nice places, go shopping, see old friends from my JC - I didn't need Fries on the weekends. He clearly liked sex with men, he's gay... or bisexual at least and I don't know if he had much sex with his wife anymore. I once asked a question about his daughters and he warned me sternly that I was not to ask questions like that. I just said, "Yes sir." It was clear who was in charge - he was of superior rank after all, I was under his protection, I needed him more than he needed me. The fact that I enjoyed the sex with him was a bonus - I wonder if I would have done the same if he had been old, fat and ugly: would I have been able to do the same thing, just to get a better time in NS?  Probably not. I liked him, it a strange way, but yes I liked him. And he liked me very much too, we had some good times together.

Limpeh: And did he like you too, in the same way?

Andrew: Yes... Yes, I think so. He could have had other guys in the camp who were gay, but he picked me.

Limpeh: Do you think he had abused his position of authority? Did Fries do anything wrong?

Andrew: No, I consented to it all. He never ever forced himself on me, I totally allowed him to do what he wanted and in return, he took care of me in camp. So no, I don't think he did anything wrong at all. He was a good man, really.
 
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Somehow, Fries and Andrew were a good match at the time.

Limpeh: Don't you think that the system should have protected you from the bullying, that Fries as your officer should have protected you from day one, before he started having sex with you? Don't you think that it was wrong that he only started protecting you after your sexual relationship began?

Andrew: That's the thing about NS - I didn't ask too many questions. I just went from day to day, hoping for the best, expecting the worst and of course, the answer to your question is that in an ideal world, Fries should have stepped in to protect me as my commanding office from day one - but he didn't. But also, I didn't ask for help. Part of me realized that I wasn't in primary school anymore and I couldn't run to Fries the same way a primary one kid would run to his teacher for help. Another part of me was just cynical about him being willing and able to help me if I had asked for help. Besides, I wasn't the only one who was getting bullied - there were others as well and Fries did nothing to help them. There were two Indian guys who were suffering so much racism from the Chinese guys and Fries just totally ignored the situation. I think there was the expectation in NS for us to learn to get along with each other.

Limpeh: And do you feel that you did learn how to get along with others better? I certainly did. Did you?

Andrew: I suppose I did. I had grossly underestimated how difficult NS was going to be and I think many guys make the same mistake: they are fresh out of JC and they are going into a totally different kind of environment where they are expected to function as adults. You either have to learn very quickly, grow up very quickly or you can end up totally miserable and suffer a lot. I was unprepared, I was blur, naive, ignorant. It is a sink or swim situation - I would have drowned but Fries pulled me out of the water and saved me. You know... I am grateful to him. Very grateful indeed.
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Limpeh: Did anyone else know about your relationship with Fries back then?

Andrew: Yes I did - but in Australia where I studied. You're not going to believe this - I told my parents too.

Limpeh: Really!

Andrew: Yeah my mother is this PAP-voting loyal PAP supporter and after I had ORDed, I felt I needed to get it off my chest as I couldn't tell anyone in camp what was going on because it would be a betrayal to Fries. But my parents, that's a different story. I was coming out to my parents and I just felt like getting everything off my chest. There was a part of me that wanted to show my mother just how broken the system is: she had this impression that NS was good or you, that it was the greatest gift from the benevolent PAP to nurture and educate our Singaporean men and that everything that gone on in NS was perfect. I just had to say, "oh mum, I was the officer's lover and had sex with him everyday, that's how I got through NS. That's what goes on during NS."

Limpeh: How did she react?

Andrew: She was unable to find the words to talk about it. I remember she cried a lot. I don't know what she was crying for - whether she was upset about what happened to me or if I had attempted to shatter her image of how perfect the Singapore government was. My point was, "if this can happen to your son, think about what can happen to other Singaporeans and you have the PAP to thank for the broken system". But unfortunately, her only response was just crying - we never actually talked about it. I talked, she listened and then ran away crying without saying anything. Up till this day, she has never spoken a word about it. It has been so many years, so I'm not going to bring it up again.
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Was it right for Andrew to tell his parents about this?

Limpeh: Was it fair to do this to her? After all, my mother isn't particularly well educated and she's kinda simple - like a child and I just don't even try to engage her on some issues knowing full well that she's not able to process the information like an adult. Crying was her way of showing you that she cared, but she just didn't know what to do?

Andrew: No. I don't think she was that stupid. I wouldn't have done so if I didn't think she could handle it.

Limpeh: Were you not worried that she would run to the authorities, threatening to report what happen to them? I can count the number of ways Fries could have gotten into a lot of trouble...

Andrew: No my parents won't do that. I think it is an Asian thing - they do not want to bring shame to the family by telling anyone about this. I have told others when I was studying in Australia but that's Australia, they are like, oh cool, older man, sexy military officer, nice - I bet he looks hot in his uniform! Like there was no shock on their part at all, they just saw it as just totally acceptable. And maybe it should be. Where I am working now, there is a woman who slept her way to the top and that's just the way of the modern world. There is a huge gulf between the world I grew up in and the way my parents envision it to be - perhaps that's just the generation gap. Perhaps that's just my parents being too Singaporean, but really, what can I do? Well, I have learnt to accept the things in life that I just cannot change.
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Studying in Australia gave Andrtew a new perspective.

Limpeh: Did you keep in touch with Fries? Did you see him after your ORD?

Andrew: No. Let's get real here. We never ever met outside the camp. It was just sex. Once in a while he would buy me a packet of his favourite French Fries if he was having some and there were a few times when he gave me a lift to the nearest bus stop when we left camp - but that was it. I never addressed him by his first name, it was always 'Sir' and I think he knew surprisingly little about me and vice versa. We were lovers, sure - but were we friends? I don't think so. On my ORD day, he was fairly sanguine about it all. He was like, "have fun at university, good luck! Remember to come back and visit us some time!" But of course, I never went back to see him ever again.

Limpeh: Did you ever miss him or think about him?

Andrew: Not really. I am grateful, I think he threw me a lifeline when I needed it the most. I was depressed, isolated, very lonely and he gave me the compassion, understanding and companionship that I so desperately needed then. The experience gave me the confidence to go on and date other guys and start feeling a lot more confident about my sexuality. He was always kind to me, he took care of me in a way that no one else had done before - he showed me what it was like to be in a relationship, of sorts...

Limpeh: Did the fact that he was married bother you? What about his wife, do you know anything about her?
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Do you want some fries with that?

Andrew: No, it didn't bother him, why should it bother me? You'll be amazed how many seemingly happily married men have affairs. He didn't want to talk about it and I supposed if they were really that happy, he wouldn't be looking for a lover outside his marriage. I did wonder why he got married and had kids if he was clearly attracted to men. But that is his problem, not mine. I clearly was able to offer him something he couldn't get from his wife. I don't know anything about her, so I can't really comment on what kind of person she was. I think Fries would have probably taken another gay lover the moment the opportunity presented itself - especially given how it is so much easier to find gay sex online these days with all these dating sites and apps, so I have no doubt that Fries is still looking for men today.

Limpeh: Finally Andrew, why do you want to share your story today?

Andrew: I guess it is because it was so long ago and so few people actually knew of the story. My parents have managed to forget that I have ever told them - well, they have blocked it out of their memories. My friends in Australia treated it like some erotic fantasy involving hot gays in uniform and I was very careful whom I told in Singapore as I wanted to protected the identity of Fries. So much time has passed and I didn't want to forget what had happened - I feel like if I didn't tell the story, then even I would forget about it and I don't want to. I guess there's a part of me that wanted to share the story to immortalize it in some way, to make a record of it as there had been none before. Maybe some people will be interested, maybe they won't at all but I just wanted to get it off my chest for one final time.
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What do you think of Andrew's story?


Limpeh: Andrew, thank you very much for sharing your experiences with me.

Andrew: Thanks.

*Some details, dates and names have been changed to protect the identity of Fries and Andrew. Our intention has always been to share the story without revealing the identity of those involved. Many thanks for reading. 

 

Posted 23rd July 2015 by Limpeh Foreign Talent

 

So why is this story now? It's happening n normal in army life in spore or wat?

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6 hours ago, wkayz said:

Not particularly army fetish but I really got a big thing for guys in PT and OCS singlets 

I'm a slut for tank tops/singlets... The arms and hair peeking out drives me senseless

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On 7/15/2020 at 12:30 AM, Guest Uncle said:

I'm a slut for tank tops/singlets... The arms and hair peeking out drives me senseless

The hairy armpit when they lifted their arms woolala ..... 

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On 5/6/2020 at 3:09 PM, yuquidam said:

Never knew about this thread before by Marky. Now reading through for the first time. Thanks!

Yeah I last time read too! Nice story as well! 

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I see everybody sharing their kinky ns moments so imma join the bandwagon. 

 

1) Was bathing when guys just started pushing open the cubicle doors for fun and for some reason the cubicles locks all spoil and no one fixed so yea. Saw many guys junk by "accident" and it was hella sight :)

2) Was in the bunk chilling when I kena taupok in the bed randomly(random guy things I guess cos I was kinda liek the pops kid HAHAHAH) and uhh someone grabbed my underwear (renoma black briefs) and kena wedgied. Best feeling over(if anyone wanna meet up to have a wedgie war hmu) 

3)2SG was demonstrating VOC and when he jump over the low Wall his pants ripped which revealed his black under armour boxers super cute 😍 

4)Guys having fashion show in bunk and changing in and out of army clothes as a joke(wearing pt kit with long 4 pants plus swimming trunks. Dont ask me y) super funny and he'll of a sight to watch 

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18 hours ago, Lookseearound said:

good memories... army time.. posted to unit after NCO course.. met my buddy.. we could click immediately.. became good friends too.. nothing happened while we were in sg.. things happened while we were in roc for exercise.. cold winter time.. we were in the bunk freezing sharing same blanket.. one night, we chatted and topic when into sex.. it got me really horny and i asked if he was.. and he was horny too.. out of my mind, i moved my hand to his crotch and touch him.. he was rock hard and i squeezed it.. it got him harder.. he started touch mine too.. soon i found my hand inside his pt pants touching his dick.. he was wet w pre cum.. we touch each others.. after a while, he told me to stop as he was about to cum.. i didnt know what happened to me.. i told him to cum in my mouth.. (we cannot dirty the bed as it is late at night and others were sleeping).. i found myself slipping into the blanket and  undo his pt pants.. my first time sucking a dick as i am a str8.. he was rock hard.. i was busy sucking and licking him.. he switched on a torch light to look at me inside the blanket.. i got to see his hard wet dick too.. a while later.. he cum full load into my mouth.. my first exp swallowing cum.. he did the same to me after.. unloaded my full load into his mouth too.. after the incident, we did it every night in roc.. relationship continued after we returned to sg.. we played in the bunk and at my house.. we continued as good friends until uni was over and i got married.. he became gay after... 

Hmm. You got married and he became gay. 
so are you two still together now. 

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I'm from a country where we don't have military service. But I spent two years working in Nepal and met a fit soldier buddy there who's been in the army since he was 19.  I get turned on hearing all about his tough military trainings where they have to live in tents and carry heavy sacks of stuff around for miles and go on runs in uniform carrying full packs.  And he tells me about the challenges of finding private spots to wank off and having to shower in cold water after exercising, despite the relatively cold winter temperature.  In Kathmandu I loved to lick his military sweat after he would do a good hard naked workout at my place and to run my hands over his slim muscular body. I hope I get a chance to meet up with him again some time!

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