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THE long-time head of Ren Ci Hospital was charged in court on Tuesday with 10 counts, including forgery, misappropriation of funds and conspiracy to give false information to the Commissioner of Charities.

Goh Kah Heng alias Shi Ming Yi, 46, was charged, along with his personal assistant Raymond Yeung Chi Hang, 33, who faces two counts, and Phua Seow Hwa, 47, who faces one charge.

Phua is a manager of Ren Ci Hospital and Medicare Centre's technical resource centre.

A fourth man, Pang Leong Chuan, 27, was charged with having obscene videos and films without valid certificates at Cornwall Gardens, where the monastery staff live, and his Tampines home in February.

Read the full story from ST online edition from link below.

http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/...ory_257880.html

What I am curious to know is what kind of videos were they watching at Cornwall Gardens? I don't have a good feeling about this. :(

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He is one classic example of how absolute power, fame and greed can do to a person. I never thought that he is a "nice" person to begin with but never thought he is capable of forgery, cheating, falsifying accounts and providing false information.

Of course he is innocent until proven guilty so we will have to wait and see how this case will play out in court.

Another interesting twist are the 70 obscene videos, shockingly they are found in the living quarters of the monastery staff! It would be interesting to know just how obscene these videos really are.

p/s is "obscene videos" the media way of saying pxxn? Is a R21 film obscene?

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I found the drama unfolding to be quite fascinating. Sounds like a novel, a monk, two assistants in a two million dollars condo in a posh area. And this university guy (the assistant) has 95 uncensored and obscene vcd etc. I think this guy is kind of addicted to something.

By the way, this Raymond is kind of a cute with small tiny eyes. I will have a big problem if he will to be my PA.

I am not jumping into conclusion, but the dynamics sound very down to earth, afterall, we and the people involved in this case are all human beings, and are trapped within the things of the earth "塵"..... 塵未了.......

We have donated, we did the right thing to help those in need, some people may fail us, but hope they and others would learn from what is happening. And am I glad that the authority pull the brake on charities that could misuse these funds and mislead the public. Other countries don't do that. Another concern is how the multi- millions that went to help the Sizchuan earthquake would be used. Well, my job is to donate and help the poor and those in need, the rest is dependent on the conscience of others. But conscience is subjective and can be wrapped badly.

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It is shameful for famous religious leader to do such misappropriated of public fund. It will not only tarnish the image of Ren Ci Hospital but Singapore as well. All charities are getting too glamorous and accumulated too much money for their own good. It creates unnecessary temptation and waste considerable resources to audit, supervise, control, and debate in court.

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So conservative...

I'd say all this point silently to the word..... GAY.....

obscene videos... din state the nature of it...

4 men in a private condo... one or two of them quite 'cute' in their own ways, as observed by some...

*sigh*.....

Hope this don't become the issue later when the trial is over, and a verdict is reached...

I wonder how many can keep the two issues apart... being homosexual, and breach of trust...

damn... the gay part... brings back exciting memories... heh heh heh.....

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nowadays it is a case of trial by media.

Before the case is even tested on the court, the general public has already formed their verdict based on what they read on the media.

Personally, I felt whatever the outcome, Ming Yi will step down, and another person link to gahmen will take over Ren Ci. Now who's next? Looking at the trend, it would seem the high profile charity organizations were given the extra spotlight. Both NKF and Ren Ci have been organizing charity shows on TV.

I would think in no time, gahmen will form a new committee to take over all charity in SG.

:thumb: When I Think It, I Do It, I Win It! :thumb:

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Former Ren Ci Hospital Chief Ming Yi is accused of misappropriating $50k of Ren Ci's funds by approving a loan to his former personal aide Raymond Yeung Chi Hang - Read the full story in http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/...e_20090422.html

好一个为老不尊的; 好一个言行不一致的 ..好一个星洲宗教团体的大笑话 ..

慈善活动”过度落力”的演出, 此种”壮举”, 始终让我置疑 ...

回看那感人肺腑的画面, 如今让人啼笑皆非 ...

遗憾的是让我们见证到”崇高”的无知:

道貌岸然者, 莫过如此也 ...

尊师重道者, 说说而已也 ...

自悟与自误, 只是一线之隔... 真管他妈的修烁与否 ...

“明”智与”义”理, 果真如此容易冠上?! 哈哈!!!

Hary ..

..清心自身, 清者自清

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I cannot stand the botak, why must he cheated on money, why must he lied, why must he attached to materialism, why must he owned a boy boy. So it goes to show he has very strong needs and desires. He must de-roped, get his a-hole shaved and inspect whether it is still tight :whistle:

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This Ming Yi is really not very smart guy.

After the NKF saga, he should know better that his organisation will be scrutinised by the authorities sooner or later.

Hes paid about 20K monthly as reported, so hes hardly a poor monk.

Why can't he just loan his boy boy with his own money.

And that loan is not even a hardship loan, its for personal home renovation!

And that former cabin crew boy boy........without any tertiary qualifications, can command a monthly salary of $4,000, plus spend-as-you-wish corporate credit cards for his indulgence and probably stayed in that posh Holland Rd condo for free too.

Some really privileged foreign talent!!!

Where got meaning???? :angry:

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送走了一个杜莱 ...

潜逃了一个名律师大卫拉锡 ...

紧接着来了一个明义法师 ...

好一个"R.I." ... 纯属巧合吧?!

好一个"雪中送炭"的 ...

好一个"慷慨解(囊)"的 ...

好一个(仁慈) 的挥金无度 ...

好一个"真心英雄" ... 慈善活动那”落力壮举"的演出, 始终让我置疑, 是否那样才能获得捐献者"过度无知"的恩宠 ?!

好一个"闪闪泪光"的 ... 是为何? 是谜惑? 或自觉? 还是同道中人们的悲泣?!

好一个"耐人寻味"的暧昧关系... 和好一个"不攻自破"的 ...

好一个"行善者"的榜样... 和好一个"信念"动摇的开始 ...

好一个"真理"的教说 ... 和好一个"背道而弛"的 ...

好一个"道貌岸然"的 ... 好一个"尊师重道"的 ...

好一个星洲宗教代表的大笑话 ...

遗憾的让我们见证到"崇高"的无知 ; 回看那感人肺腑的电视画面, 如今让人啼笑皆非 ...

正与邪,善与恶,在各个不同的时期里,何谓道德标准?!自悟与自误, 只是一线之隔... 真管他妈的修烁与否 ...

“明”智与”义”理, 果真如此容易冠上?! 哈哈!!! 唯有清者自清 ...

Hary

...假行僧:

我要从南走到北,我还要从白走到黑.

我要人们都看到我,却不知我是谁.

你别想知道我到底是谁,也别想看到我的虚伪.

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I have been following the news in the past few days. Like the Desperate Housewives TV series, this season we have this Desperate Monk trying to BS to struggle afloat before "sinking":

~ what "kill a snake to save many lifes" ohhh .... please.

~ joint names to buy house in Perth with his lover. Ohhh ... getting married with him?

~ buy and keep a horse.

~ each one of them has a BMW in Perth.

~ unrecognized university "degree".

~ spending $$$ 500K? on his lover.

~ lying and cheating because of this man.

Can make into a 40 episode drama series 金"枝"欲孽之诱僧.

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Dun be a typical STINKAPOLEAN idiot la...

kena only just condemn and condemn ... no redeeming qualities... whole family and all who know him must die...

come on...

This monk, if not for him, thousands would have died in the streets. He has helped countless people and provided for them .

Where the FXXK are all these people who had recieved his help directly or indirectly?? has ANYONE even stand up to say something for him???

you really think 'help you' is your 'entitlement' is it?? someone OWE you one har???

This is a clever man who decided to become a monk, against the wishes of his family at first, to almost singlehandedly built Ren Ci organisation, and organised assistance for a lot of people needing medical assistance, and built homes and hospital for their benefit.

Yes he has covered up... read more deeply. Has any of his 'crimes' been for his personal gain??? He loaned money to someone else needing it. He covered up to save Ren Ci from public embarrassment (foolishly on hindsight) - to safeguard the public's confidence in the Charity and not to stop giving money to help those in the hospital and home. Has anything he done benefitted his own pocket?

read more dudes... and read wisely.

all so happy to jump in to give a side kick and sucker punch to the guy... no one wonders why he did it... MUST BE BECOS OF POWER CORRUPTING ABSOLUTELY... yeah - you deserve to be freaking penniless you sour-grape-never-ever-gonna- get-any-power-sucker...

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And so, our local charities is back where it SHUD BE... run by the government - which is how it stays in absolute power... it runs 90% of your life! Those to tries to break out and is not 100% squeaky clean ... gets FRUCKED by a jackhammer....

Geezuz Khrout would have been labelled a rebel and disturber of peace and hanged in our country... all over again... but this time, the people will just throw stones at him.... becos they are I D I O T S...

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Dun be a typical STINKAPOLEAN idiot la...

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kena only just condemn and condemn ... no redeeming qualities... whole family and all who know him must die...

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come on...

again... but this time, the people will just throw stones at him.... becos they are I D I O T S...

By your argument therefore, the people at the head of NKF should be forgiven for what they did, solely because they have helped others. This is not true. We were upset by the NKF saga and people are upset by the Ren Ci saga.

The reason for being upset is of course that donors did not agree for their money to be used to buy BMWs or race horses. The arrogance of the man for thinking to use donated money to speculate in property especially when he admitted to be less adequate in knowledge about property deals. Had he used his own salary (Alarm bells!) to purchase property or cars or provide interest free loans - no issue. But this? Using money to speculate at a time when he himself admitted that Ren Ci was not financially sound - how can this be right?

I am not going to guess at the reasons why Ren Ci was set up. But if you support him by pointing towards his efforts in setting up Ren Ci. Then you will also have to be fair and support the government - who (using your argument) have brought Singapore up to where it is today, helping everyone it has helped.

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Please learn how to edit your long post. Thx

Gachi

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If we all are the jury, I think the majority would vote for Ming Yi to be "guilty". I agree that he should be punished for using the foundation's money for private purposes. But beyond this charge, anything else would be considered "judgment" on Minyi's character. Being in a yellow robe doesn't mean that one is a perfect being - meanings are attached to the robe, not to the person albeit you can argue that he chose to wear it in the first place.

None of us like to be judged according to our private desires and lives. So give this guy a break.

Dun throw away everything he has done for the less fortunate together with the dirty water! :thumb:

Serve my fellow bottom men well !

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Raymond's dressing is quite trendy looking.

The papers reported Ming Yi is very close to him.

Ming Yi approved to borrow so much unauthorised money to help Raymond.

Ming Yi and Raymond shared names to buy property.

What kind of relationship they are in ?

Hmm ... Isn't it obvious ?

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Dun be a typical STINKAPOLEAN idiot la...

kena only just condemn and condemn ... no redeeming qualities... whole family and all who know him must die...

Did you post for the sake of trying to be different from all other posts. Anyway, after reading your post, i feel like giving you a kick up your arse.

You are the one who should read more and stop conflating issues. Just because someone earned a million dollars for the organisation and perhaps pocketed half a million, we should be thankful to him for that because w/o him, there probably wouldn't even be a million dollars in the first place? Is this your take? Should charities be run the same way as a for-profit organisation where sales people draw commission from the revenue they bring into their organisations? I would be a fool to think your way.

People are not baying for his blood. In fact, the public reaction towards his case has been very mild compared to what happened to TT Durai. What else do you expect from the public? To forgive him when all he has done is to shift the blame to his aide and trying to portray a piteous self? I dare say i admire him for his devotion in helping the needys. But, the fact remains that this man is a liar. Whatever his reason was to lie, the fact remains he was not honest. What is more disappointing is the fact that he dons the yellow robe. Is this behaviour acceptable?

Why do we need the Govt to step in to control the charities? Is Renci falling apart now under the new management? Aren't people who volunteer to run charities supposed to do it out of good intention to help the poor and needy? If they are obsessed with money and material wealth, are these people fit to run the charities?

Personal take on this: I can accept his moment of folly. But, to keep denying it in court and not being truthful when he has the chance to do so now only makes me despise him.

So who is the real idiot?

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有赞就有弹, 理所当然 ... 凡人或圣人, 没人幸免 ...

司法制度下, 没有妥协 ... 贫庸或富裕, 公正无私 ...

整个事件的来胧去脉, 确实不乏疑点. 至于明义法师的措词里, "得体"还是 "Dirty"? 大家用慧眼来见证吧 ...

陪审团裁决的结果, 莫过于两种启示:

(1)错误中的教训与领悟

(2)自種因,自受果 (俗話"自食其果")

誰做的惡果肯定是誰自己承擔,別人替代不了 ... 你我皆众生

Hary,

... 因果規律: (1)转迷为悟 (2)转痴为智 (3)转凡为圣

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I believe that "To err is human", and everyone of us do make mistake, but the important thing is whether it is an honest mistake, intentional mistake, big mistake or forgivable mistake etc.

After reading the newspaper covering the trial for a few days, I begin to believe that he has done something for his personnel gains, doing many things to please his boy boy include breaking the law.

I used to support him before but not anymore after all these evidence were exposed. He should know about the "Karma" thing much better than us as he is a monk.

Let us all learn from this lesson.

Best Regards,

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Wah HKgers are expected to indulge in branded goods ah, Prada and Gucci somemore? Nice to be kept hor.

today new paper he confess he kept a horse as a pet only. why not instead of buying a hoprse donate hos extra money to the poor

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你我皆凡人 生在人世間 

終日奔波苦 一刻不得閒

(你)既然不是仙 難免有雜念 

道義放兩旁 (把)利字擺中間

多少男子漢 一怒為紅顏 

多少同林鳥 已成(了)分飛燕

人生何其短 何必苦苦戀 

愛人不見了 向誰去喊冤

問你何時曾看見 這世界為了人們改變

有了夢寐以求的容顏 是否就算是擁有春天

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I agree mostly with what Amkies had said.

I actually felt sad when facts were revealed during the court hearing.

Before the the court case, I had full admiration for this man Ming Yi; so eager to help the poor, so selfless when performing those daredevil acts to raise funds. I was so moved by his acts that I made more donation calls.

But now I may have to look at him from another view point.

To the public, he is a monk; a monk who cared and built hospital for the poor and under priviledged.

But behind the public's view, he is another person.

Monk - in chinese is 出家人;看破红尘 , 四大皆空,六根清净 。

Literally it means you had left your family; and also had left the mundane world of earthly wants - wealth, fame, luxury, love, sex, etc.

So now, is he really a practicing monk, or just a regular guy wearing a monk's robe?

But whatever, he is very rich monk indeed.

S$5,000,000 investment in properties overseas in joint ownership with his boy.

Beemers for their use, pet horse for their leisure.

And his boy, who was only a former cabin crew:

$5,000 pm salary

Unlimited spending on corporate cards for personal purchases ($5,000 LV bag as reported)

Stay in luxury condo in Holland Road

Overseas holidays (all expenses paid I believe)

Non collateral loans for hugh sums of money.

And all this is perhaps only part of it

Where can you find this kind of remuneration!

This guy sure knows how to milk his sugar daddy!

Now they are being trial for misappropiation.

And worse, it involved donation money.

The verdict will probably look like another NKF debacle.

And worse, with the prosecution pressing on, more details will be revealed of their "unusual relationship".

Durai was smart enough to throw in the towel on the second day of trial in order to avoid further cross examination.

That corrupted catholic priest Joachim Kang did the same so he need not reveal further his relationship with his personal assistant.

Wonder if Ming Yi is smart enough.

Now I realized that all my donations made wasn't enough to buy that LV bag!

Sigh!

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And his boy, who was only a former cabin crew:

$5,000 pm salary

Unlimited spending on corporate cards for personal purchases ($5,000 LV bag as reported)

Stay in luxury condo in Holland Road

Overseas holidays (all expenses paid I believe)

Non collateral loans for hugh sums of money.

And all this is perhaps only part of it

Now I realized that all my donations made wasn't enough to buy that LV bag!

Sigh!

Does anyone wish to be this guy who has a rich sugardaddy to feed his needs for luxury lifestyle? :unsure:

Yes, your donations were never enough to purchase the LV bag, maybe for him to buy a pair of underwear? :(

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EVERYONE (regardless who you are and what title you are holding) makes mistake(s) in our lives - some less, some more (even repeatedly); some serious, some not serious.

There is always a reason behind whatever action(s) we make in our lives, only ourselves (deep inside us) know the truth. Whatever it is, there is consequences that we have to face for our actions. WE as outsiders, try not to judge and pass not-so-nice remarks.... coz it hurts and who knows...one day we may be caught in a similar situation.

I suggest we can read the case and comment on the findings but please don't go to the extreme to say bad things about the person. It is not necessary.....cos who are we to judge others when we are the same.....human beings.

Just wanna to share my thoughts on this. Thank you.

DC

learn to see the sparkle in others. not just the flaw.

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I am deeply concerned. If he is so attached to this materialistic world and behaved so unmonkly, do you think he had quietly tasted Bak Kut Teh or Kueh Chup in the private condo? Of course he has boys to deliver for me when he felt like tasting meat. Utter dissappointment, should be send to jail for as long as I deemed fit.

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I think to someone would have been contributing to the RENCI, he deserved to voice his view. Afterall, it is his hard earn money and to think that it was meant for good causes. He will definitely felt betrayed.

I do agreed people do make mistakes...but NOT this kind of mistakes... This is greed, dishonest...etc I think he deserved to be punished for his action. Let's make it a lesson learned for those that harbour ill intentions... I am sure there are more of his kind of characters around..just not caught yet...

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This is just so wrong. How can they make up such a headline? Such sexual innuendos. :)

Straits Times, today 21st July 2009, Home section, page B2.

BW's Moderator's comment:

The headline was - DPP: Ming Yi Bents over backwards for Yeung

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The headline was - DPP: Ming Yi Bents over backwards for Yeung

DPP won't anyhow make any allegation - maybe he has the proof.

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DPP won't anyhow make any allegation - maybe he has the proof.

maybe should check with those others massage boys doing outcall.

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The media only mentioned that Ming Yi and Raymond are having a very close relationship. I am wondering when the media gonna announce that Ming Yi and Raymond are actually having a gay relationship.

For NKF case, the charity organisation in Singapore still have not learnt their lesson. Charity organisation had not been transparent on their yearly account. From the NKF and Ren Ci case, I totally stop donating.

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extending from this, what are you views of charity organization, after recent incidents with high flying charity like NKF and Ren Ci?

Do you still donate as much? Or none at all?

:thumb: When I Think It, I Do It, I Win It! :thumb:

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This is just so wrong. How can they make up such a headline? Such sexual innuendos. :)

Straits Times, today 21st July 2009, Home section, page B2.

BW's Moderator's comment:

The headline was - DPP: Ming Yi Bents over backwards for Yeung

DPP: Ming Yi Bents over backwards for Yeung

Such headline were not incidental, its up to you to decide what he meant and you to interprete it.

The prosecution now is trying very hard to establish the relationship between this 2 men.

They have to present to the court why this monk is so good to this guy; its only a normal PA post, why it must be him.

There are easily a few thousand Singaporean ( and many BW forumers too) who are as suitable, if not more, for this job, why him, a foreigner?

They are trying to present the credit card bills to show the spending pattern, what were purchased etc.

I will not be surprised that they were mostly for purchases for Prada, LV, Hermes, Giorgio Armani and the likes and perhaps also some fancy dinner bills too, spend here, Hong Kong and all their holiday places.

Already shown in court were joint ownership of properties, nothing will be more surprising.

This is definately NOT a normal boss/subordinate relationship.

Here we see one guy milking unmercilessly and one guy showering goodies unreservedly.

As mentioned in my earlier post, that convicted catholic priest Joachim Kang had a similar PA but is a lady and were also showered with lots of goodies.

But before the prosecution start to question about their relationship, the priest plead guilty so as to avoid further embarassment to the lady and himself.

Wonder how and what this monk going to do next.

But whatever, as what Harylok had said : 自種因,自受果 (俗話"自食其果")

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extending from this, what are you views of charity organization, after recent incidents with high flying charity like NKF and Ren Ci?

Do you still donate as much? Or none at all?

I think in the past, there used to be less scrutiny on the charities. Come on, frankly who would even bother to read the financial statements of these charities? Auditors probably thought the boards were made up of decent kind-hearted souls and thus a level of trust. Gone are those days. I think the failures of corporate governance in the two charities would break the fraud triangle. At least now, they can no longer think no one is watching behind their back.

Therefore, if there were any good time to trust and donate to charities, i guess this would probably be the best time. Frauds don't occur that frequently. So, donate for the next few years and stop. Wait for another fraud case to be unearthed, and donate again. It's sad but if you do not have right-minded people running the charity, you get this kind of sh*t.

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Aiyoh, you guys' imagination go wild liao :lol: "Bent over backwards" is an idiom meaning "trying very hard to make someone happy". E.g. X bends over backwards for Y by buying him a LV bag, a BMW and etc etc.

But hor, if you do think of the "pose" ... its can also have the same meaning lar. :D E.g. Last night in the sauna, he bent over backwards for me. :hat:

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Wah liao, you guys all have dirty mind lah. :D

You cannot have anal sex with a person if he is bending backward. You can only do it if he is bending forward lah. :D

Damn jia lat, I think most of you are still virgins. :lol:

Joking only lah.

Cheers

Please play safely! Use a condom if you are having anal sex.

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Ah Lung ker-ker, i guess you have by so far only tried "bend over forwards" only i.e. doggy style. "Bend over backwards" is went the btm is riding on the top and arch backward to get it deeper. :lol: :whistle: Go watch the video clips in hotgoo to see how the Japanese men do the position. ;)

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you dare to screw monks? once they r robed..they r supposed to be 'body of buddha'

I know quite a number of men in Vietnam who likes to screw monk in robes. One of my Vietnamese friend's cousin has done it with a uncle monk in a back lane way outside the temple. Another of my friends went inside the temple to give young monks blow job. So I suppose, the scriptures are no longer what we are used to understand anymore. Embracing your desires is the New "Holy". :thumb:

Its bizarre but when we hear of scandals between catholic priest and young choir boys, we think nothing of it. but when its Budhhhist monks, its quite a big hoo ha. why huh?

Serve my fellow bottom men well !

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