Guest hopeful Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 16 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Actually, during the SARS period, there were also some remedies similar to that being mentioned and published in the newspapers. I recall it was started off by a monk who said he dreamt of it. I won't say it helped with anything, but surprisingly, the SARS pretty much went away all by itself soon after that. If history is to repeat itself step by step, now that such a "remedy" has been propagated, I wonder if the same will happen this time and the virus may go away by itself soon, maybe at least for us here in this part if the region.. Just wondering... or maybe just wishful thinking.. 😋 Have they found a vaccine against SARS? This should give you hope. or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disallow Posted March 7, 2020 Report Share Posted March 7, 2020 That Covid19 now SARS-Covid19 should have been disallowed from start as it is age discriminatory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvhandle Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 with class, their ad: when sneezing,cover up When sick use mask wash your hands it went viral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 (早报讯)昨天(3月7日)公布的新病例当中,包括一名与新加坡基督生命堂感染群有关的26岁新加坡男子,他在隔离结束后才被确诊,其间已到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。 根据卫生部文告,这名男子因为与上述感染群有关,曾在2月15日至3月6日之间被隔离在国家传染病中心。 他结束隔离后,曾到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。男子是在前天(6日)下午确诊的。 Shit, is getting closer and closer, first is safra jurong and now is safra ponggol, the tricky part is that he had been quarantined from 15/2 to 6/3 and only tested positive after quarantine, that is like after 20 days WTF .....and all these temperatures screening at Safra looks like wayang wayang only, there is simply no way to detect and prevent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hanor Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: (早报讯)昨天(3月7日)公布的新病例当中,包括一名与新加坡基督生命堂感染群有关的26岁新加坡男子,他在隔离结束后才被确诊,其间已到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。 根据卫生部文告,这名男子因为与上述感染群有关,曾在2月15日至3月6日之间被隔离在国家传染病中心。 他结束隔离后,曾到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。男子是在前天(6日)下午确诊的。 Shit, is getting closer and closer, first is safra jurong and now is safra ponggol, the tricky part is that he had been quarantined from 15/2 to 6/3 and only tested positive after quarantine, that is like after 20 days WTF .....and all these temperatures screening at Safra looks like wayang wayang only, there is simply no way to detect and prevent. Hard to say. There are many possibilities of a person being infected whether he is quarantined or not. The person might have been successfully quarantined without a trace of convit-19 in him. Unfortunately, he could be so happy that he went about his business after being locked up for 14 days and then someone infected him. He miss out the first infection does not guarantee he will not be infected by another person. So, we should not discount the safety of being quarantined.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphere Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: (早报讯)昨天(3月7日)公布的新病例当中,包括一名与新加坡基督生命堂感染群有关的26岁新加坡男子,他在隔离结束后才被确诊,其间已到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。 根据卫生部文告,这名男子因为与上述感染群有关,曾在2月15日至3月6日之间被隔离在国家传染病中心。 他结束隔离后,曾到过榜鹅战备军协俱乐部。男子是在前天(6日)下午确诊的。 Shit, is getting closer and closer, first is safra jurong and now is safra ponggol, the tricky part is that he had been quarantined from 15/2 to 6/3 and only tested positive after quarantine, that is like after 20 days WTF .....and all these temperatures screening at Safra looks like wayang wayang only, there is simply no way to detect and prevent. To be fair, the staffs took it seriously eh. At Toa Payoh branch that I frequent, they always made sure all the information were filled before I press the submit button on my phone. There had been cases where infected person might not develop a fever, and in this case, he didn't know he was infected as he had duly fulfilled his quarantine period. Let's just be socially responsible that we should rest (or stay home) if we ain't feeling well, and see a doctor as soon as possible. This would likely be a long "battle", take care everyone! Edited March 8, 2020 by sphere Quote Happy - is what we should be, always. Notice: I DO NOT use the Chat Function in this Forum - this has always been written in my profile (and I don't read it too). {it is unfortunate that this new Chat Function does not allow users to turn/switch off in mobile phone} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 8, 2020 Report Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 hours ago, sphere said: To be fair, the staffs took it seriously eh. At Toa Payoh branch that I frequent, they always made sure all the information were filled before I press the submit button on my phone. There had been cases where infected person might not develop a fever, and in this case, he didn't know he was infected as he had duly fulfilled his quarantine period. Let's just be socially responsible that we should rest (or stay home) if we ain't feeling well, and see a doctor as soon as possible. This would likely be a long "battle", take care everyone! It is not about the fever or no fever. It is not even about the wayang show of taking temperature of people at Safra. Why is there a gap between the end of the quarantine period and the test results? Isn't that the purpose of having the quarantine in the first place? To ensure that the potential infected stays at home until they are tested to be free from the virus? But in this case, the guy came out after his quarantine period ended, and it was a long 20 days too. Who ended his quarantine period? Did he end the quarantine himself without authority? Or did the authority fail to keep him posted of his positive infection results in time to stop him from going out? There is a serious systematic lapse of procedures here. This type of quarantine, might as well don't have. It serves no purpose at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hunk tracks Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/catching-invisible-criminal-covid-19-how-police-work-contact-tracing the one in light blue is hot he tracks ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum1outhere_03 Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 6:13 PM, Guest Contact Tracing said: Think Twice before you go sauna ...everything logged date / time and where Hmmm... Swipe tinder and watch k drama after work? if/when work from home? Oops Quote Will you be my valentine's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlone Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: It is not about the fever or no fever. It is not even about the wayang show of taking temperature of people at Safra. Why is there a gap between the end of the quarantine period and the test results? Isn't that the purpose of having the quarantine in the first place? To ensure that the potential infected stays at home until they are tested to be free from the virus? But in this case, the guy came out after his quarantine period ended, and it was a long 20 days too. Who ended his quarantine period? Did he end the quarantine himself without authority? Or did the authority fail to keep him posted of his positive infection results in time to stop him from going out? There is a serious systematic lapse of procedures here. This type of quarantine, might as well don't have. It serves no purpose at all. Please bring this matter up to the authority n let them be aware. This is quite a serious matter as it can lead to more cases! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Is quite worrying if this guy kena during his quarantine in the national disease centre.....no use to report as our current team do not have the experience to tackle such a situation and as can be seen our current case of 150 is 3 times more than Taiwan and also much higher than hk, is ridiculous. Just received text from safra Ponggol that the centre will be closed till further notice. Can't even find any info if the victim visited the gym but there is a high possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: Is quite worrying if this guy kena during his quarantine in the national disease centre.....no use to report as our current team do not have the experience to tackle such a situation and as can be seen our current case of 150 is 3 times more than Taiwan and also much higher than hk, is ridiculous. Just received text from safra Ponggol that the centre will be closed till further notice. Can't even find any info if the victim visited the gym but there is a high possibility. Quarantined people can be isolated either at home, at Government Quarantine Facilities, or at a hospital. I think they are trying to control the situation by doing contact tracing, and then trying to contain those who have come into contact with those infected. It might work for now while the numbers are still relative low, even though it is already past the 100 mark. But when the numbers starts increasing more and more, they won't have sufficient resources to do that anymore, even with the help of the CID or the entire SPF. But this quarantine mishap is proving that the quarantine procedure is quite flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Italian cruise ship rejected by Thailand, Malaysia over Covid-19 fears will dock in S'pore on March 10 as scheduled According to ship trackers, the Costa Fortuna has been making steady progress in the direction of Singapore since March 8, 2020.PHOTO: COSTA CRUISES BRAVO, even countries with 50 & 99 cases rejected, country with 150 cases bravely welcome with open arms, "welcome Covid -19" Edited March 9, 2020 by lonelyglobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvhandle Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 u can gauge the prone to covid from Middle age, I supposed?? from 30s to 69yo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 hours ago, lonelyglobe said: Italian cruise ship rejected by Thailand, Malaysia over Covid-19 fears will dock in S'pore on March 10 as scheduled According to ship trackers, the Costa Fortuna has been making steady progress in the direction of Singapore since March 8, 2020.PHOTO: COSTA CRUISES BRAVO, even countries with 50 & 99 cases rejected, country with 150 cases bravely welcome with open arms, "welcome Covid -19" I think this case is a bit grey area. The ship started its journey here in Singapore. And furthermore, Singapore is indeed listed as its home ports. If don't let it return home, then how? https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/italian-cruise-ship-rejected-by-thailand-malaysia-over-covid-19-fears-will-dock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest in denial Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 Beijing denies coronavirus originates in China During the press conference on March 4, Zhao Lijian the spokesman of China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs claimed that the COVID-19 may have not originated in China. Lijian criticized the media for calling Coronovirus as Chinavirus, commenting that it is ‘extremely irresponsible’ and that China strongly opposes it. Confirmed cases of #COVID19 were first found in China, but its origin is not necessarily in China. We are still tracing the origin. pic.twitter.com/IG4IsCJ0JC — Spokesperson发言人办公室 (@MFA_China) March 4, 2020 He emphasized that Beijing is still tracking down the origin of the coronavirus for it is still undetermined. Lijian pointed out that the WHO has always referred to COVID-19 as a global phenomenon with uncertain origins and the reason for its name to be changed from 2019-nCOV to COVID-19 is to avoid negative repercussions from stigmatizing a geographic area or a population group. Lijian quoted Dr. Zhong Nanshan, the respiratory specialist saying that coronavirus first emerged in China but was not necessarily originated in China. He further asserted that there has been no supporting evidence so far for such a statement. Lijian reaffirmed that coordinated efforts are needed to address this global challenge rather than spreading rumors and prejudice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dart Posted March 9, 2020 Report Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 2:48 AM, Dart said: A message through my Whatsapp reads a natural remedy to counter the coronavirus: Place 8 freshly chopped garlic cloves in a bowl. Add 7 cups of water into it and bring it to a boil. Consume the water together with the garlic. Though I'm not able to confirm its effectiveness, there's nothing for an infected person to lose for trying it. The message continues that many patients have seen improvement and some have even made a full recovery. Do share this message with others. For what you may know, it could save lives. Allow me to make rectification to my earlier post. Fresh garlic naturally possesses powerful antimicrobial properties due to the content of alicin ( a sulfur compound responsible for the pungent smell ) ( I studied Western Herbalism but not practising ). Thus, consuming garlic can strengthen the immune system but to claim that it can cure the coronavirus infection is misleading. Those patients who show improvement or even recovered because their immune systems have been fortified. This could happen by chance or due to other factors as well. I apologize for not verifying the message from my chat group. fab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 8:59 AM, Guest Guest said: Milan to Codogno is approximately 60 km apart. While Milan has not reported any confirmed cases, shelves have been emptied by residents out of fear of the coronavirus spread. https://mothership.sg/2020/02/italy-coronavirus-panic-buying/ Now that Milan is under lockdown, do you still think that the 60 km distance from Milan to Codogno is far enough for the virus not to spread there? And that was just two weeks ago. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertonardelli/coronavirus-milan-lockdown-italy-schools-bars-cafes ""It's clear that Milan does stop," Daniele Costenaro, who works for Amazon in the city, told BuzzFeed News. "It's surreal that in two weeks we've gone from a handful of cases in a barely known town [Codogno] to the entire city of Milan in lockdown.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFter8 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, AFter8 said: Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 You left out Germany which is at Latitude 51° .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, AFter8 said: Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 It's hard to imagine that a primitive organism like a virus has a global positioning sense that gives it preference for a certain latitude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, AFter8 said: Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 All have very nice temperature for the virus and they are some of the major transportation hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimochi Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The viruses align instead of the stars align . Hmm something fishy . End of an era ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Equatorial Folks Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said: All have very nice temperature for the virus and they are some of the major transportation hub. I was thinking along the same line. Those countries are in winter, ideal for virus to incubate. Luckily, those countries along the equator are still quite mild from infection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Now that Milan is under lockdown, do you still think that the 60 km distance from Milan to Codogno is far enough for the virus not to spread there? And that was just two weeks ago. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertonardelli/coronavirus-milan-lockdown-italy-schools-bars-cafes ""It's clear that Milan does stop," Daniele Costenaro, who works for Amazon in the city, told BuzzFeed News. "It's surreal that in two weeks we've gone from a handful of cases in a barely known town [Codogno] to the entire city of Milan in lockdown.” Go read back the context lah, so WOLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) SAFRA EnergyOne/Facebook Gym at Safra Punggol closed after user has Covid-19, gym employees on stay-home notice The patient, a 26-year-old Singaporean man identified as Case 138, had visited the EnergyOne gym at Safra Punggol on March 6 and was on its premises from 7.36pm to 9.32pm. What I don't understand is that apparently he was confirmed positive on 6 march afternoon and how come he still can be in Safra in the evening? Edited March 10, 2020 by lonelyglobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 This Coronavirus in Singapore is taking too long to recover. New cases are popping up again and again. I feel the government is not bold enough in the fight against this virus. If it drags on longer, more jobs will be lost. Therefore, I took the bold initiative to set up a thinktank to brainstorm ways to eliminate this virus in our country. This thinktank comprises of several people whom I had known for years where we always gather to discuss policies and singapore politics in field of education, to economics to running of GIC and Temasek to elections. We came out with a simple but effective solution. But need bold steps and courage. However, I believe the vast majority will agree base on many people's opinion and voices throughout the net. 1-Lock down the country for 1 month. Everyone will be in lock down in their registered address. No schools, no gatherings. Companies will be shut down for 1 month. No one is allowed to leave home. 2- each person in singapore will be given a $300 food ration. The army will distribute these food to every household. These food will be enough to last 1 month. 3- do not worry about housing loans, car loans. These will be voided for the 1 month. 4-doctors and nurses, police, army will be based in their respective work place to keep essential needs to continue functioning. 5- all airports and ports will be closed. MRT, bus will be closed for a month. This simple solutuon of isolating everyone will prevent clusters from happening like the safra dinner. If a family develops covid19, only that household will be moved to medical facility in an island like St Johns or Sisters Island, away from main land. All infected shall be held there until they recovered. Those recovered will be transported to another island to be isolated from main land for 5 months. To ensure they are toy free from any virus. Locking down 1 month will only cost us 1 month of GDP which is about $30billion. But its worth it if lifes are saved and coronavirus is eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 The only country that requires all visitors to be compulsory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival is Israel....that is a very bold move and lots of sacrifices involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Report Share Posted March 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: The only country that requires all visitors to be compulsory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival is Israel....that is a very bold move and lots of sacrifices involved. Yes indeed! They have guts to pull this through. Their government is not money faced and care for its people's health! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, Since u r here said: Did it come as any surprise that people would still go about their daily activities even when they are sick? Yes, healthy people need not wear masks if the entire society is socially responsible enough to stay at home if they are not feeling well. But in a culture where people still need to go to work and go about with our daily lives even when we are sick, we wear masks to protect ourselves because we do not know who is sick. And in fact, the sick people themselves may not even know that they are infected too. For all that we know, the Jurong SAFRA cluster might have been reduced if some of those infected had worn mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singroc Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, AFter8 said: Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 Er..think u need to pick up some geography lesson. The country on the extreme left of the map is Spain (西班牙), not France (法国). Also, the whole of Iran lies below latitude 40 Edited March 11, 2020 by Singroc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Since u r here said: which is why we ONLY avoid those sick pp (w masks) & those who r normal and healthy has no masks needed, so nothing to avoid As usual, you miss the point.... 24 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Did it come as any surprise that people would still go about their daily activities even when they are sick? Yes, healthy people need not wear masks if the entire society is socially responsible enough to stay at home if they are not feeling well. But in a culture where people still need to go to work and go about with our daily lives even when we are sick, we wear masks to protect ourselves because we do not know who is sick. And in fact, the sick people themselves may not even know that they are infected too. For all that we know, the Jurong SAFRA cluster might have been reduced if some of those infected had worn mask. There is a 14 days to 21 days of incubation period, meaning infected people may show no symptoms during this time. The infected asymptomatic people may not know they are infected and may not be wearing masks. Anyone who wants to rely others to protect himself, instead of doing something for his own protection. is really stupid. And it is really dumber to listen to people who is telling us to rely on other people for our own personal protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattChoy Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 15 hours ago, AFter8 said: Is it sheer coincidence that most badly-affected Covid19 countries and cities are along the same Latitude 40° north of the equator? L-R of attached map: France — Italy — Iran — Wuhan — Korea — Japan — Seattle — Washington — New York 😷😷😷😷😷 Beijing is on 40N and Wuhan is further south, at 30N. Only an idiot would not know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Since u r here said: we wont need a lady to teach us that this is carried out due to greed many r blind to fact, certain behaviours r not abusive but seen as 1- eg certain behaviours r not due to passion in singing but greed Is there anything wrong in making a living? Those who participated clearly enjoyed themselves? Who are you to label them as such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Since u r here said: extremely selfish if u r sick, pls refrain What is definition of unwell? If one is having a mild scratchy throat or mild cough, should one self quarantine themselves for 14 days? What if this persists for weeks or months? Should they lock themselves up at home, not go to work not go out to buy food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/9/2020 at 1:30 PM, lonelyglobe said: Italian cruise ship rejected by Thailand, Malaysia over Covid-19 fears will dock in S'pore on March 10 as scheduled According to ship trackers, the Costa Fortuna has been making steady progress in the direction of Singapore since March 8, 2020.PHOTO: COSTA CRUISES BRAVO, even countries with 50 & 99 cases rejected, country with 150 cases bravely welcome with open arms, "welcome Covid -19" On 3/9/2020 at 6:22 PM, Guest Guest said: I think this case is a bit grey area. The ship started its journey here in Singapore. And furthermore, Singapore is indeed listed as its home ports. If don't let it return home, then how? https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/italian-cruise-ship-rejected-by-thailand-malaysia-over-covid-19-fears-will-dock Good to now this update: https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/all-1631-passengers-disembark-by-midnight-from-costa-fortuna-cruise-liner-in-spore/ar-BB111jXQ?li=BBr8Cnr&ocid=wispr All 1,631 passengers disembark by midnight from Costa Fortuna cruise liner in S’pore "The authorities said all foreign passengers were to be conveyed by midnight directly to the airport or to their respective hotels. They added that all foreign passengers would leave Singapore within the next two days." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 I saw this 3 March 2020 update on MFA website : https://www.mfa.gov.sg/countries-regions/j/japan/travel-page SINGAPORE MINISTRY OF HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH ADVISORY ADDITIONAL PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES IN RESPONSE TO ESCALATING GLOBAL SITUATION "03 MARCH 2020 In view of the surge in the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases around the world – in particular in Iran, northern Italy*, Japan and the Republic of Korea – Singaporeans are advised to defer non-essential travel to Iran, northern Italy*, Japan and the Republic of Korea. " I thought by the 3 March 2020, there were multiple countries which has a larger number of infected people than that in Japan already, eg Spain, France, Germany and maybe even the USA. Why wasn't there a travel advisory given for those countries? (The chart below reflects the numbers for today). How do they determine which country to advise against travelling and which not to? Country, Other Total Cases New Cases Total Deaths New Deaths Total Recovered Active Cases Serious, Critical Tot Cases/ 1M pop China 80,788 +34 3,158 +22 61,579 16,051 4,492 56.1 Italy 10,149 631 1,004 8,514 877 167.9 Iran 9,000 +958 354 +63 2,959 5,687 107.2 S. Korea 7,755 +242 61 +1 288 7,406 54 151.3 Spain 2,067 +372 47 +11 135 1,885 101 44.2 France 1,784 33 12 1,739 86 27.3 Germany 1,622 +57 3 +1 25 1,594 9 19.4 USA 1,015 +21 31 +1 15 969 10 3.1 Diamond Princess 696 7 325 364 32 Switzerland 651 +154 3 3 645 75.2 Japan 587 12 102 473 31 4.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Unbelievable Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Good to now this update: https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/all-1631-passengers-disembark-by-midnight-from-costa-fortuna-cruise-liner-in-spore/ar-BB111jXQ?li=BBr8Cnr&ocid=wispr All 1,631 passengers disembark by midnight from Costa Fortuna cruise liner in S’pore "The authorities said all foreign passengers were to be conveyed by midnight directly to the airport or to their respective hotels. They added that all foreign passengers would leave Singapore within the next two days." Unbelievable. Singapore government cannot handle stress and now throw caution into the wind and let nature take its course at everyone expenses. I wonder which hotel will house the passenger for 2 days, not knowing their health status after they disembarked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 It should not be any specific country anymore, they should discourage all forms of non - essential traveling to Europe, USA, Middle East and Asia. We seems to be always one step behind, only when Safra dinner became a big cluster, they decide to cancel all form of PA activities for senior and only recently foreigners have to pay for their own hospitalisation and treatment for covid -19, shouldn't this be the case from the beginning, why should local taxpayer paying their medical bill? superflawless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, Guest Unbelievable said: Unbelievable. Singapore government cannot handle stress and now throw caution into the wind and let nature take its course at everyone expenses. I wonder which hotel will house the passenger for 2 days, not knowing their health status after they disembarked. But its a sg based ship leh..so ship leaves sg must return to sg mah..wrong meh?so by your logic, we should close changi and all airports, shipping, train? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsrelaxpp Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said: It should not be any specific country anymore, they should discourage all forms of non - essential traveling to Europe, USA, Middle East and Asia. We seems to be always one step behind, only when Safra dinner became a big cluster, they decide to cancel all form of PA activities for senior and only recently foreigners have to pay for their own hospitalisation and treatment for covid -19, shouldn't this be the case from the beginning, why should local taxpayer paying their medical bill? Today's 12 new cases include 8 imported ones with traveling history of philipine, indonesia, japan, europe and usa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest why worry? Posted March 11, 2020 Report Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 hours ago, Guest Guest said: As usual, you miss the point.... There is a 14 days to 21 days of incubation period, meaning infected people may show no symptoms during this time. The infected asymptomatic people may not know they are infected and may not be wearing masks. Anyone who wants to rely others to protect himself, instead of doing something for his own protection. is really stupid. And it is really dumber to listen to people who is telling us to rely on other people for our own personal protection. Why do you worry? You don't have any work and sit at home all day n night. We, who need to travel to work are in danger. You can sit at home with legs up watching tv and eated your hoarded instant noodle soup. Why do you worry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Guest why worry? said: Why do you worry? You don't have any work and sit at home all day n night. We, who need to travel to work are in danger. You can sit at home with legs up watching tv and eated your hoarded instant noodle soup. Why do you worry? My house is my paradise, not my prison. Working or not working, I still go out sometimes. Stupid people like you deserve to go work for other people everyday, including Saturday and Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 12 hours ago, lonelyglobe said: It should not be any specific country anymore, they should discourage all forms of non - essential traveling to Europe, USA, Middle East and Asia. We seems to be always one step behind, only when Safra dinner became a big cluster, they decide to cancel all form of PA activities for senior and only recently foreigners have to pay for their own hospitalisation and treatment for covid -19, shouldn't this be the case from the beginning, why should local taxpayer paying their medical bill? The key is controlling foreigners from affected countries coming in, whether for business or leisure, or trying to take advantage of medical treatment of Covid 19. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, LeanMature said: The key is controlling foreigners from affected countries coming in, whether for business or leisure, or trying to take advantage of medical treatment of Covid 19. Imported ones have to start paying as of 7th March, problem is those, like Indo, who buy a cheap ticket fly in to SG, after treatment they got no money to pay how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Imported ones have to start paying as of 7th March, problem is those, like Indo, who buy a cheap ticket fly in to SG, after treatment they got no money to pay how? If only can ask them to pay before treatment...... It can also be those rich ones fly in business class and exhausted all our medical resources, afterall they know they can get better medical treatment here. Edited March 12, 2020 by lonelyglobe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: If only can ask them to pay before treatment...... It can also be those rich ones fly in business class and exhausted all our medical resources, afterall they know they can get better medical treatment here. 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: Imported ones have to start paying as of 7th March, problem is those, like Indo, who buy a cheap ticket fly in to SG, after treatment they got no money to pay how? Singapore must be brave enough to impose temporary visa restriction and arrival quotas on neighbouring countries to ensure that our medical facilities are not taken advantage of and in addition, charged them higher medical fees to cover medical treatment given free to citizens. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jjlin Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 why is this idiot pasting all these links onto this page? if you have something worthwhile to say, just say it. no one is going to look at your stupid ill-formatted links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Guest jjlin said: why is this idiot pasting all these links onto this page? if you have something worthwhile to say, just say it. no one is going to look at your stupid ill-formatted links + 1, irritating as hell cuz it slows my page loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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