All about Covid-19 Discussion in Singapore (compiled)

[Guest Guest]

It's Time to Face Facts, America: Masks Work

 

https://www.wired.com/story/its-time-to-face-facts-america-masks-work/

[Guest Try and see]

Mr Nazrul Syahmi, 20, a Singaporean who is serving his national service with the Singapore Police Force, went backpacking in eastern Europe last month.

 

But when he tried to return home on March 17, he found himself alone in a closed airport in Slovenia, with no way out of the country.

 

 

Just curious how an NSF can take one whole month's leave to go backpacking in Europe?

 

Quite literally his grandfather's camp! 

 

https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/stuck-europe-singaporean-brought-home-multi-national-effort

[Guest Question]

Do you still go around cruising or sex up strangers??!!

 

 

[Guest Guest]

12 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

They alrdy linked it liao whenever possible...it takes time to link when mamy refuse to

dwnload the app “tracetogether”

 

"Whenever possible"? Isn't that the problem? It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to link it completely. In fact, look at the chart here: https://infographics.channelnewsasia.com/covid-19/coronavirus-singapore-clusters.html  Even until now, a case as early as Case 29 still remains unlinked. We had around 100 cases at end Feb. And today in the span of less than a month, we have an increase of almost 800 cases to be ending the month with close to 900 infected. MOH needs to do something very differently on top of the contact tracing, before the situation escalates even more exponentially and we get 5000 cases soon.

 

[Guest Tink]

20 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

Look at the numbers of cases and the land area of singapore, are we losing the battle against covid19?

Maybe they are too busy arranging for coming election.

Sigh...

No doubt 

[Guest Guest]

19 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Let's face reality: if they are failing so miserably with over 850 people infected, and more and more infected with indeterminable causes, contact tracing is a lost cause already. We are merely just going through the motion of doing contact tracing because we were praised that it was "GOLD STANDARD".

 

By now, we should do what the South Koreans did, that is conduct mass diagnosis, so that we can try to stem further spread of the virus by identifying all those who asymptomatic but infected, and those infected with mild symptoms but chose to ignore the mild symptoms. That was how the South Koreans manage to keep their numbers in check, even though the initial spike in their numbers was nothing short of horrifying. Contact tracing only worked initially to buy us some time. Time which we wasted by not developing or getting more test kits for ourselves, just like the masks. 

 

I mentioned the above yesterday. And today, Dr Takeshi Kasai, WHO Regional Director for the Western Pacific, said this: https://www.who.int/westernpacific/news/speeches/detail/virtual-press-conference-on-covid-19-in-the-region

 

"We recognize that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to preparing for and responding to an emergency like this, but we have found common tactics in these countries. Those are:

• Finding, isolating and treating cases early
• Tracing and quarantining contacts quickly
• Putting in place multiple public health interventions to increase physical distance between people to slow and stop transmission
• Mobilizing and engaging every community to protect themselves and the most vulnerable.

But we need to be clear, that even with all of these measures, the risk will not go away as long as the pandemic continues. Rather, these measures can buy us valuable time to prepare for large-scale community transmission. And we also have to find a way to make our societies get running again.

Preparing for large-scale community transmission must reach every corner and community of every country, to make sure that nobody is left behind. For this, we need all local authorities and communities to be fully engaged." 

 

What are we really doing now that we have bought ourselves time? 

[passinthenight]

 

The Singapore Solution

https://www.abc.net.au/foreign/the-singapore-solution/12096032

FacebooTwittMail

 

While the world shuts down in an effort to control the coronavirus pandemic, Singapore is more or less business as usual. Its schools and universities remain open and its restaurants and malls are operating – albeit with fewer customers. 

So how has this Island State kept the new coronavirus under control, despite its strong business and cultural links with China?

As we find out in The Singapore Solution, the country was well prepared with a pandemic response plan. Once the world learned of this new coronavirus in December last year, the government acted on it.

Like many Asian countries, Singapore learned about the power of pandemics the hard way. When the deadly SARS (Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome) virus spread through north Asia seventeen years ago, governments were unprepared. 

SARS killed hundreds of people across Asia, including thirty-three people in Singapore. 

"We've been preparing for this since SARS ... this is something that is firmly etched in Singapore's medical history," explains Australian doctor Dale Fisher, an infectious diseases expert who is based in Singapore and is now part of the team battling the coronavirus.

To beat COVID-19, the Singaporeans have set up a network of clinics where symptomatic people can seek advice and if necessary, get sent for testing. Those who are positive are quarantined and tightly monitored.

Singaporeans are being asked to download a tracing app onto their phones. Those who are infected are subject to the "contact tracing" system, where health officials track down all those who’ve had contact with them. 

Penalties for breaching these orders can be harsh. "If ... they’re caught ... there are jail terms," says Professor Dale Fisher.

Other measures include temperature checks outside public buildings and schools – those with a high temperature must go home – and clear public health messaging and information.

While the measures might evoke fears of a "surveillance state", they have been successful in flattening the rise of infections. The key to success has been to act fast and comprehensively.

Despite their success so far, authorities remain vigilant. As Singaporeans flock home to escape outbreaks elsewhere, the number of cases has begun to rise again. The government is tightening it’s polices and already the pandemic plan is being updated. Critics are asking if it’s enough.

Watch Foreign Correspondent's 'The Singapore Solution' at 8pm Tuesday March 31st on ABC TV and iview.

[Guest Linking Park]

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

"Whenever possible"? Isn't that the problem? It is IMPOSSIBLE for them to link it completely. In fact, look at the chart here: https://infographics.channelnewsasia.com/covid-19/coronavirus-singapore-clusters.html  Even until now, a case as early as Case 29 still remains unlinked. We had around 100 cases at end Feb. And today in the span of less than a month, we have an increase of almost 800 cases to be ending the month with close to 900 infected. MOH needs to do something very differently on top of the contact tracing, before the situation escalates even more exponentially and we get 5000 cases soon.

 

 

Linking and unlinking I find is good if the origin of the spread is identified. If you linked two unlinked cases, doesn't mean they caught it from each other, they might have caught it from a super spreader who is yet unidentified and is out there spreading to more and more people. If you look at all the clusters, how many have identified the initial spreader?

[Guest Guest]

32 minutes ago, passinthenight said:

The Singapore Solution

https://www.abc.net.au/foreign/the-singapore-solution/12096032

FacebooTwittMail

 

While the world shuts down in an effort to control the coronavirus pandemic, Singapore is more or less business as usual. Its schools and universities remain open and its restaurants and malls are operating – albeit with fewer customers. 

So how has this Island State kept the new coronavirus under control, despite its strong business and cultural links with China?

As we find out in The Singapore Solution, the country was well prepared with a pandemic response plan. Once the world learned of this new coronavirus in December last year, the government acted on it.

Like many Asian countries, Singapore learned about the power of pandemics the hard way. When the deadly SARS (Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome) virus spread through north Asia seventeen years ago, governments were unprepared. 

SARS killed hundreds of people across Asia, including thirty-three people in Singapore. 

"We've been preparing for this since SARS ... this is something that is firmly etched in Singapore's medical history," explains Australian doctor Dale Fisher, an infectious diseases expert who is based in Singapore and is now part of the team battling the coronavirus.

To beat COVID-19, the Singaporeans have set up a network of clinics where symptomatic people can seek advice and if necessary, get sent for testing. Those who are positive are quarantined and tightly monitored.

Singaporeans are being asked to download a tracing app onto their phones. Those who are infected are subject to the "contact tracing" system, where health officials track down all those who’ve had contact with them. 

Penalties for breaching these orders can be harsh. "If ... they’re caught ... there are jail terms," says Professor Dale Fisher.

Other measures include temperature checks outside public buildings and schools – those with a high temperature must go home – and clear public health messaging and information.

While the measures might evoke fears of a "surveillance state", they have been successful in flattening the rise of infections. The key to success has been to act fast and comprehensively.

Despite their success so far, authorities remain vigilant. As Singaporeans flock home to escape outbreaks elsewhere, the number of cases has begun to rise again. The government is tightening it’s polices and already the pandemic plan is being updated. Critics are asking if it’s enough.

Watch Foreign Correspondent's 'The Singapore Solution' at 8pm Tuesday March 31st on ABC TV and iview.

 

During SARS period, everyone rushed out to buy masks. During that time, people were eyeing masks that are nothing short of N95 quality, and the government did not dissuade the population from buying them. Now, the government tells people "healthy people do not need to wear masks". Yes, undeniably, we have learned something from the SARS epidemic. But did we really learn enough? 

 

And yes, some of the rising numbers might be attributable to Singaporeans flocking home to escape outbreaks elsewhere. But you are talking about a significant rise of almost 800 infections in one month alone, with more and more community spread happening now. 

 

We are not the poster boy for the management of this pandemic as many people think of us to be. There are several other countries (or territories) doing better than us. 

[Guest Guest]

15 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

sadly many hated what sg govt has done, nevrmind, there bound to be flamers and haters no matter how hard u tried to be nice and truthful!!!!  

 

 

is this the same guy contemplating to hold the GE now? 

[Guest repeating]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

During SARS period, everyone rushed out to buy masks. During that time, people were eyeing masks that are nothing short of N95 quality, and the government did not dissuade the population from buying them. Now, the government tells people "healthy people do not need to wear masks". Yes, undeniably, we have learned something from the SARS epidemic. But did we really learn enough? 

 

And yes, some of the rising numbers might be attributable to Singaporeans flocking home to escape outbreaks elsewhere. But you are talking about a significant rise of almost 800 infections in one month alone, with more and more community spread happening now. 

 

We are not the poster boy for the management of this pandemic as many people think of us to be. There are several other countries (or territories) doing better than us. 

 

 

Repeating the requirement to wear masks won't change the opinion of the Gov. 

And, there will never be sufficient masks for the whole population if you consider one face masks to be worn just 24 hours a day. 

You need 6 mil masks per day. 

If you impose for all to wear masks, then the supply will be gone in 1 week or less. Further, you will have fights in the shops for people wanting to buy masks. 

 

The Gov might take this approach in not propagating to wear masks at all time as it is more relevant for the health and hospital personnel to wear masks and to have sufficient supply for those vulnerable and important groups. 

 

Most research says, it is important for infected persons to wear a mask to decrease spreading of droplets. 

 

Please understand getting infected has something to do with behavioral attitude. 

Important is frequent hand washing  and not touching the face when outside and only when your hands have dried after thorough soap washing. 

 

The best is actually to stay at home and not to venture out of the house... and reduce contact to other persons in the same household. 

 

The clusters are going up and "unlinked" persons being infected because most probably the Stay Home regulation for returning residents was not sufficiently stringent to contain the virus. The returning visitors to Europe, US, ASEAN should have been sent to a real quarantine for 14 days on an earlier stage and not just sent for Stay Home at their houses. 

But the quarantine involves a huge cost too.  

 

 

Here what the health experts say on wearing masks (but please note what I wrote above on the sufficient supply): 

 

Can a face mask protect me from coronavirus? Covid-19 myths busted

Claim: ‘Face masks don’t work’

Wearing a face mask is certainly not an iron-clad guarantee that you won’t get sick – viruses can also transmit through the eyes and tiny viral particles, known as aerosols, can penetrate masks. However, masks are effective at capturing droplets, which is a main transmission route of coronavirus, and some studies have estimated a roughly fivefold protection versus no barrier alone (although others have found lower levels of effectiveness).

If you are likely to be in close contact with someone infected, a mask cuts the chance of the disease being passed on. If you’re showing symptoms of coronavirus, or have been diagnosed, wearing a mask can also protect others. So masks are crucial for health and social care workers looking after patients and are also recommended for family members who need to care for someone who is ill – ideally both the patient and carer should have a mask.

 

However, masks will probably make little difference if you’re just walking around town or taking a bus so there is no need to bulk-buy a huge supply.

 

[lonelyglobe]

（早报讯）我国新增47起冠病病例，其中31起属本地感染病例，这使本地病例总数破900起，达926起。

根据卫生部文告，新增的31起本地感染病例中，有13起与早前确诊的病例和感染群有关，另18起目前与其他病例没有关联。

[practease]

 

Incredibly heart wrenching...

[bluerunner]

What worries me for the past 1 week is the cases of local transmission is increasing. As of yesterday, it has surpassed the imported cases. 
Yet, I see so many people outside. I suspect many WFH people are ‘taking break’ by going outside ‘jalan-jalan’ 

[gstringuy26]

35 minutes ago, bluerunner said:

What worries me for the past 1 week is the cases of local transmission is increasing. As of yesterday, it has surpassed the imported cases. 
Yet, I see so many people outside. I suspect many WFH people are ‘taking break’ by going outside ‘jalan-jalan’ 

Those poor school children who are taking buses, they still behave as if nothing has happen, never wear mask, still talking loudly, squizzing in buses and MRTs!

Seems like nobody control distancing in buses and MRTs! 

[Guest InBangkok]

As I sit in my apartment in Bangkok unable even to pop down to the swimming pool in 37 degree heat as the government has ordered all pools closed (even in apartment blocks where very few use the pools and a system could surely be adopted whereby one person could use the pool for, say, 30 minutes on a pre-booking system), I cannot get one thought out of my mind. Governments around the world spend trillions of US dollars on their militaries preparing for wars which, for most, do not happen. Then over the next 20 or so years with technological advances they spend trillions more updating those war machines. 

 

The world is now in a war that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives - if not more, once the virus reaches refugee camps - and trillions of $$ in what is likely to be the worst worldwide economic depression since 1929. And it is largely because no government took the necessary measures in advance to protect its populations from hidden enemies like a virus. Why not? The cost of stockpiling essential medical and other equipment would be merely a tiny part of a nation's defence budget? Why did our elected representatives not consider how to protect their populations in the event of biological warfare? Why no stockpiling of masks, protective gear for hospitals, planning for a fast increase in hospital beds, equipment and facilities, detailed public relations planning and so on that could regularly be updated and immediately released? Where was the WHO when the virus first came to public attention? Why was it so slow off the mark in declaring a pandemic?

 

The corona virus may be a new phenomenon but the world has been talking about possible biological warfare decades before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003. Trump and other leaders talk continuously about how this sprang up unexpectedly and then spew out lies about what we are facing and will likely be facing for months until they finally face reality. It's far too easy to  be wise after the event. But surely we elect politicians and leaders to prepare countries for all possible eventualities. Most world leaders have failed in those responsibilities. Damn them!

[leo yok loo]

1 hour ago, bluerunner said:

What worries me for the past 1 week is the cases of local transmission is increasing. As of yesterday, it has surpassed the imported cases. 
Yet, I see so many people outside. I suspect many WFH people are ‘taking break’ by going outside ‘jalan-jalan’ 

I saw many old men ( i mean really old, can hardly walk) crowded around drinking beer in coffeeshop/market near my place. 

Some are even gambling also.

一大把年纪还不会想。。。

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, Guest InBangkok said:

As I sit in my apartment in Bangkok unable even to pop down to the swimming pool in 37 degree heat as the government has ordered all pools closed (even in apartment blocks where very few use the pools and a system could surely be adopted whereby one person could use the pool for, say, 30 minutes on a pre-booking system), I cannot get one thought out of my mind. Governments around the world spend trillions of US dollars on their militaries preparing for wars which, for most, do not happen. Then over the next 20 or so years with technological advances they spend trillions more updating those war machines. 

 

The world is now in a war that will cost hundreds of thousands of lives - if not more, once the virus reaches refugee camps - and trillions of $$ in what is likely to be the worst worldwide economic depression since 1929. And it is largely because no government took the necessary measures in advance to protect its populations from hidden enemies like a virus. Why not? The cost of stockpiling essential medical and other equipment would be merely a tiny part of a nation's defence budget? Why did our elected representatives not consider how to protect their populations in the event of biological warfare? Why no stockpiling of masks, protective gear for hospitals, planning for a fast increase in hospital beds, equipment and facilities, detailed public relations planning and so on that could regularly be updated and immediately released? Where was the WHO when the virus first came to public attention? Why was it so slow off the mark in declaring a pandemic?

 

The corona virus may be a new phenomenon but the world has been talking about possible biological warfare decades before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003. Trump and other leaders talk continuously about how this sprang up unexpectedly and then spew out lies about what we are facing and will likely be facing for months until they finally face reality. It's far too easy to  be wise after the event. But surely we elect politicians and leaders to prepare countries for all possible eventualities. Most world leaders have failed in those responsibilities. Damn them!

Every countries only focus on economic growth as their main concern and basically no one expect china to throw out another virus after 17 years and one that causes more death and disruptions.

 

WHO or Wuhan Health Organisation cannot  afford to offend china and as such, it had been proven itself as a useless organisation and really don't understand why we still need to donate USD 500k to them. 

 

Incapable team + sporean's "don't care" attitude explain why we are hitting the thousand mark today or if lucky by tomorrow. Community transmission is slowly creeping in as the number of local transmission and unknown link cases continue to soar. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

while u r free to comment , but pls dont get BW in to do a correction for the fake comments u accused the govt for doing!

 

How about spreading fake news like the one below: 

 

 

[LeanMature]

2 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

I saw many old men ( i mean really old, can hardly walk) crowded around drinking beer in coffeeshop/market near my place. 

Some are even gambling also.

一大把年纪还不会想。。。

 

As long as not more than 10, it is still legal.  

[Guest Guest]

6 minutes ago, LeanMature said:

 

As long as not more than 10, it is still legal.  

 

It's not a question of legality.

It's a question of necessity. 

[Guest DND]

17 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Stuck  in  Sg:  Malaysian  Technician

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/singapore-malaysian-worker-lockdown-covid19-coronavirus-12572416

Your life depending only the choices you made at some points of time. At least, he still has a job here to send money home to pay installments. If he missed his family, then he shouldn’t rush here in the first place.  He still can call or video chat with family.  Why his story? There are many people in the worst states than him.  

[fab]

3 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

I saw many old men ( i mean really old, can hardly walk) crowded around drinking beer in coffeeshop/market near my place. 

Some are even gambling also.

一大把年纪还不会想。。。

 

Many iron teeth.

[fab]

6 minutes ago, Guest DND said:

Your life depending only the choices you made at some points of time. At least, he still has a job here to send money home to pay installments. If he missed his family, then he shouldn’t rush here in the first place.  He still can call or video chat with family.  Why his story? There are many people in the worst states than him.  

 

Cna has run out of news.

[cutejack]

9 minutes ago, Guest DND said:

Your life depending only the choices you made at some points of time. At least, he still has a job here to send money home to pay installments. If he missed his family, then he shouldn’t rush here in the first place.  He still can call or video chat with family.  Why his story? There are many people in the worst states than him.  

Well said. Agree. Atleast he go back he still has a family there waiting for him 

Luxurily somemore. What more these want? Haha

[Guest Guest]

3 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

I saw many old men ( i mean really old, can hardly walk) crowded around drinking beer in coffeeshop/market near my place. 

Some are even gambling also.

一大把年纪还不会想。。。

 

If you go supermarkets you can see many old folks sitting around in the mall to escape the heat. In anycase, Bedok mall's NTUC finest is closed for cleaning as one of the staff kenna.

 

NTUC FairPrice closes Bedok Mall supermarket for 3 days for cleaning after employee diagnosed with Covid-19

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/ntuc-fairprice-close-bedok-mall-supermarket-for-3-days-after-employee-diagnosed

[Guest Guest]

39 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

some really have to read up what POFMA covered

 

If it's not covered means you can spread fake /misleading news? 

[superflawless]

17 hours ago, Since u r here said:

 

No one is asking for "magic" Just use common sense. To allow travelers from infected countries/regions to come onto the main island of Singapore has had a devastating effect on our country. This is unwise. Travelers, whether it's residents or work permit holders, should NOT be allowed to go straight back home. These people simple cannot follow protocol and self-quarantine for 14 days. They need to land on an off-shore island and then carefully checked for symptons.Once they have been checked, they need to be busloaded and transported to a quarantine facility. No capabilities or resources to do all that? Then travel ban all. Simple. Even Singaporeans and residents. If you pay attention to what's happened worldwide, there are many hot spots. India, Indonesia, States, Italy, Iran, the Middle East etc etc. Too many to select? Again, block all travellers. Flights can still land and take off for cargo. But travelers, no. That's not magic. That's being resolute. That's being decisive. LawLan is neither RESOLUTE not DECISIVE. 

 

[superflawless]

1 hour ago, LeanMature said:

 

As long as not more than 10, it is still legal.  

Dear, it might not be illegal, but it is neither wise nor advisable to do that at this time. The people are taking it very easy. So complacent. To be infected, you don't need 10 people. Just 1 person can infect many others. 

[fab]

6 minutes ago, superflawless said:

No one is asking for "magic" Just use common sense. To allow travelers from infected countries/regions to come onto the main island of Singapore has had a devastating effect on our country. This is unwise. Travelers, whether it's residents or work permit holders, should NOT be allowed to go straight back home. These people simple cannot follow protocol and self-quarantine for 14 days. They need to land on an off-shore island and then carefully checked for symptons.Once they have been checked, they need to be busloaded and transported to a quarantine facility. No capabilities or resources to do all that? Then travel ban all. Simple. Even Singaporeans and residents. If you pay attention to what's happened worldwide, there are many hot spots. India, Indonesia, States, Italy, Iran, the Middle East etc etc. Too many to select? Again, block all travellers. Flights can still land and take off for cargo. But travelers, no. That's not magic. That's being resolute. That's being decisive. LawLan is neither RESOLUTE not DECISIVE. 

 

 

May I know what's lawlan? 

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

If you go supermarkets you can see many old folks sitting around in the mall to escape the heat. In anycase, Bedok mall's NTUC finest is closed for cleaning as one of the staff kenna.

 

NTUC FairPrice closes Bedok Mall supermarket for 3 days for cleaning after employee diagnosed with Covid-19

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/ntuc-fairprice-close-bedok-mall-supermarket-for-3-days-after-employee-diagnosed

Yes and library also,  a lot of uncles and aunties like to rest inside and some even doze off,  the staff have to ask them to go wash their face....all air-con should be switch off to discourage people from resting or shopping too long inside, at the same time is energy saving and in-line with save our earth campaign.

Edited April 1, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

We are having so many new infections even when we have closed our borders. Wait till the borders are re-opened again, and the people from China, India and all over the world all starts coming in and mixing around again. Then we will get to see the true spike in numbers. This almost 1000 cases we have now is just the tip of the iceberg. 

[LeanMature]

2 hours ago, superflawless said:

Dear, it might not be illegal, but it is neither wise nor advisable to do that at this time. The people are taking it very easy. So complacent. To be infected, you don't need 10 people. Just 1 person can infect many others. 

 

But nothing can stop them unless the government tweak the rule.  

[bigdanbeam]

3 hours ago, fab said:

 

May I know what's lawlan? 

Lawlan Wong

[fab]

59 minutes ago, bigdanbeam said:

Lawlan Wong

 

Good actress. 

[Guest 龙婆罗兰]

1 hour ago, fab said:

 

Good actress. 

“哽咽哭戏”

[lonelyglobe]

SINGAPORE - The number of coronavirus cases hit 1,000 in Singapore on Wednesday (April 1) with the Ministry of Health announcing 74 new cases.

 

The new cases included those at two new clusters, including the first cluster at an old aged home.

A further 10 cases have now been linked to the Lee Ah Mooi Old Age Home at 1 Thomson Lane after one case was first identified there yesterday. Among the new cases is a 102-year-old woman, the oldest Covid-19 patient to date in Singapore.

 

The second new cluster was at a dormitory at 55 Sungei Kadut Loop. Two new cases are linked to a previous case from that dormitory.

There are now at least three dormitories with active clusters. On Wednesday, there were six more cases at the S11 dormitory at Seletar North Link and two more cases atthe Westlite Toh Guan dormitory on Toh Guan Road East.

There was also one more case linked to the serviced apartment Wilby Residences and one more case linked to the cluster at Hero's, the bar on Circular Road.

 

All in, 54 of the 74 cases on Wednesday are local cases and 20 are imported. Of the local cases, 29 are linked to previous cases and clusters while 25 are currently unlinked.

[Guest Guest]

25 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

There was also one more case linked to the serviced apartment Wilby Residences and one more case linked to the cluster at Hero's, the bar on Circular Road.

 

This bar case is scary, initially I thought they all went socialising together, but the contact tracing showed the American went on the 10th, the other cases went on the 14th, almost 4 days later and got infected.

[Guest Guest]

Dun talk rubbish and go read the case properly lah. Si mi lan jiao takes 4 days to erupt spread to family members of bar patrons.

[Guest Guest]

8 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

SINGAPORE - The number of coronavirus cases hit 1,000 in Singapore on Wednesday (April 1) with the Ministry of Health announcing 74 new cases.

 

The new cases included those at two new clusters, including the first cluster at an old aged home.

A further 10 cases have now been linked to the Lee Ah Mooi Old Age Home at 1 Thomson Lane after one case was first identified there yesterday. Among the new cases is a 102-year-old woman, the oldest Covid-19 patient to date in Singapore.

 

The second new cluster was at a dormitory at 55 Sungei Kadut Loop. Two new cases are linked to a previous case from that dormitory.

There are now at least three dormitories with active clusters. On Wednesday, there were six more cases at the S11 dormitory at Seletar North Link and two more cases atthe Westlite Toh Guan dormitory on Toh Guan Road East.

There was also one more case linked to the serviced apartment Wilby Residences and one more case linked to the cluster at Hero's, the bar on Circular Road.

 

All in, 54 of the 74 cases on Wednesday are local cases and 20 are imported. Of the local cases, 29 are linked to previous cases and clusters while 25 are currently unlinked.

 

Looking at this, by extrapolation, 10,000 cases by end May? I noticed each time they report big numbers, they withhold it till late at night and/or the next day. 

 

 

 

7 hours ago, Since u r here said:

recap

 

Recap? Recap this: 100 cases at end of Feb, 1000 case at beginning of April. Still want to tell us what they did right? I don't see Taiwan and HK going around telling the rest of the word what they did right. They are not distracted by whatever election and they are all focused on fighting the virus wholeheartedly now. 

  

[Guest MAGAKAG]

With such a small population, Singapore govt should just order the 5-min Abbotts rapid test kits & provide free testing for all its people. Those tested positive could then be quarantined immediately for 2 weeks in hospital while the rest can have their normal life back. Tourists can still come in but must be tested (at own expense) or quarantined for 15 days before they are released into the  community. I'm sure some kind of royalty fees can be worked out with Abbotts on compassionate grounds to secure the local production rights of their test kits. Same goes for the anti-malaria drugs - Hydroxychloroquine & zithromycin. By doing so, we should be able to immune ourselves when we are ready to open our doors to the world again.

[bluerunner]

5 minutes ago, Guest MAGAKAG said:

With such a small population, Singapore govt should just order the 5-min Abbotts rapid test kits & provide free testing for all its people. Those tested positive could then be quarantined immediately for 2 weeks in hospital while the rest can have their normal life back. 

There is not enough beds if every positive case is quarantined in hospital. However, if gahmen could get those tested positive with no obvious symptoms or who are less severe to stay home (aka SHN), that could work better. Community must also cooperate w Gahmen by not flaunting SHN. Otherwise, it will be an uphill task to bring the numbers down. 

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Since u r here said:

While the cases seemd to b 4 day apart, that is due to it could be it takes time to erupt and it takes time to spread to the family members of the bar patrons https://www.facebook.com/1043299170/posts/10219772585278777/?d=n

 

Are you trying to spread fake news there? Where is the Facebook link going to?? Still want to tell us to choose wisely to believe in the right link and sources? Keep trying to whitewash lies and spread fake news?? You are really KNS! You should be banned from BW all together, and I mean ALL YOUR ACCOUNTS. 

 

[Guest Guest]

 

13 minutes ago, Guest MAGAKAG said:

With such a small population, Singapore govt should just order the 5-min Abbotts rapid test kits & provide free testing for all its people. Those tested positive could then be quarantined immediately for 2 weeks in hospital while the rest can have their normal life back. Tourists can still come in but must be tested (at own expense) or quarantined for 15 days before they are released into the  community. I'm sure some kind of royalty fees can be worked out with Abbotts on compassionate grounds to secure the local production rights of their test kits. Same goes for the anti-malaria drugs - Hydroxychloroquine & zithromycin. By doing so, we should be able to immune ourselves when we are ready to open our doors to the world again.

 

I agree it is time for mass diagnosis already. But I think there are a few local companies that are developing the test kits as well. This is a good time to go for theirs, if they are reliable.(https://www.hsa.gov.sg/announcements/regulatory-updates/hsa-expedites-approval-of-covid-19-diagnostic-tests-in-singapore-via-provisional-authorisation)

 

11 minutes ago, bluerunner said:

There is not enough beds if every positive case is quarantined in hospital. However, if gahmen could get those tested positive with no obvious symptoms or who are less severe to stay home (aka SHN), that could work better. Community must also cooperate w Gahmen by not flaunting SHN. Otherwise, it will be an uphill task to bring the numbers down. 

 

Home quarantine has proved to be quite detrimental in many cases.  The reason why people needs to go hospital as in any cases of sickness, is to address the situation as early as possible, instead of hoping and wishing it to go away at home without proper care and medicine. The earlier you treat a problem, the better your chance of recovery. Doing home quarantine for even the mild cases is a sure way of our COVID-19 death rate increase,. If there is a lack of resources in the hospital, they should be spending time to go boost it up soon, instead of getting a politician to spend time to tell us what they have done right!

 

 

[Guest Guest]

There are plenty of multi storey car park empty at the hospital. Sick must go hospital not quarantine at home.Car park can always convert to hospital bed.

[Guest Guest]

Singapore confirms 4th death from COVID-19

 

The Ministry of Health has confirmed that a patient has passed away from complications due to COVID-19 infection on 2 April 2020 at 6.43am. He was a 68 year-old male Indonesian national who was a Singapore Work Pass holder, and had been in Indonesia from 20 January to 16 March.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/coronavirus-covid-19-death-moh-singapore-indonesian-12600750

[Guest Guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Singapore confirms 4th death from COVID-19

 

The Ministry of Health has confirmed that a patient has passed away from complications due to COVID-19 infection on 2 April 2020 at 6.43am. He was a 68 year-old male Indonesian national who was a Singapore Work Pass holder, and had been in Indonesia from 20 January to 16 March.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/coronavirus-covid-19-death-moh-singapore-indonesian-12600750

68 years old, and a Work Pass holder. And I don’t know just what type of job it is, but his job can actually allow him to remain out of the country to be in Indonesia for almost 2 months, and he came here just at the onset of the illness? This COVID19 situation in Singapore is really exposing a lot of dust under the carpet...Lol. 

[Guest She]

8 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

68 years old, and a Work Pass holder. And I don’t know just what type of job it is, but his job can actually allow him to remain out of the country to be in Indonesia for almost 2 months, and he came here just at the onset of the illness? This COVID19 situation in Singapore is really exposing a lot of dust under the carpet...Lol. 

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[lonelyglobe]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Looking at this, by extrapolation, 10,000 cases by end May? I noticed each time they report big numbers, they withhold it till late at night and/or the next day. 

 

 

 

 

Recap? Recap this: 100 cases at end of Feb, 1000 case at beginning of April. Still want to tell us what they did right? I don't see Taiwan and HK going around telling the rest of the word what they did right. They are not distracted by whatever election and they are all focused on fighting the virus wholeheartedly now. 

  

Normally if is just 30 over cases,  the news will be out by about 9pm but if is more than 50 cases, than only after 10pm as they would need more time to compile all the cases.... 

 

Golden standard: SG

1000 cases, over 100 unlinked, 4 death

 

Non-golden standard: 

Hk: 766 cases with 4 death

Taiwan: 329 cases with 5 death

 

Both HK and Taiwan seems to have learnt from Sars experience. 

 

 

[leo yok loo]

3 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Normally if is just 30 over cases,  the news will be out by about 9pm but if is more than 50 cases, than only after 10pm as they would need more time to compile all the cases.... 

 

Golden standard: SG

1000 cases, over 100 unlinked, 4 death

 

Non-golden standard: 

Hk: 766 cases with 4 death

Taiwan: 329 cases with 5 death

 

Both HK and Taiwan seems to have learnt from Sars experience. 

 

 

To the great leaders, 1000 cases is nothing. 4 die??? All die also no big deal to them...That is why you still see kids going to school happily.