All about Covid-19 Discussion in Singapore (compiled)

[Guest Xoxom]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Churches are not essential services in Singapore?

 

They are here in Texas.   We are decent people, we don't shut down  God 

 

Good...God will shut most of you down...All if we're lucky. How decent can y'all be as selfish and ignorant as you are.

[feedersmiracle]

Time to buy sex toys from ebay, or something.

[Guest Xoxom]

3 hours ago, Nightingale said:

This is the letter I sent to ministers and DMS 5 days ago.

 

Dear Sir,

I have lived in this country for 20 years.  I worked for the government in KK Women’s and Children’s Hospital for 10 years, and was part of the fight against SARS in 2003.  I am currently a consultant Paediatrician and Neonatologist in private practice.

 

I am writing to express my deep concern at what I perceive to be a marked complacency in our government’s response to the current COVID 19 crisis.  We hear daily reports of 50-70 new cases, albeit with rare fatalities at present.  Hospital beds are being filled, and patients are overflowing to private institutions; hospital facilities are being put under tremendous pressure, and care of non-COVID 19 patients is being compromised.

 

Our students returned from overseas, many infected, and yet we hear reports of broken quarantines, parties and dinners at restaurants.  Many Singaporeans travelled overseas during the recent school holidays, and whilst we may judge their behaviour as misguided, yet they can respond that there were no clear and firm guidelines from the government banning overseas travel – and there still is no ban, merely a strong suggestion.

 

Similarly, people are being encouraged not to go to malls, and yet malls remain open.  We are discouraged from frequenting crowded places, and yet people still travel on public transport to and from work and school, and eat at food courts, restaurants and hawker centres.  The advice is inconsistent and, for the most part, disregarded.

 

I have heard the arguments put forward by Prime Minister Lee with regard to the rationale for keeping schools open at this time.  Though many of the reasons seem to have value, they can not be weighed against human life- and that is, essentially, what we are weighing our current protocols against. None of the issues we would face, were we to close our schools, are insurmountable. Yes, there are children who are vulnerable, and who would be safer in a school-based environment; yes, there are children whose parents are frontline workers and who lack carers should the schools close. But there are solutions.

 

The UK and other European countries faced just these situations, and found appropriate solutions. Vulnerable children, and those with parents who are frontline staff, continue to go to school; the majority of children, who can be taken care of at home if parents are also required to work from home, stay at home.  The secondary advantage then becomes that those children who remain within the school are in a significantly less densely populated environment, thus reducing risk further.

 

I am aware that I am at risk of sounding like the prophet Jeremiah, and am equally aware that there are many who would want to see me at the bottom of a metaphorical village well.  However, I feel compelled to speak out.  We have an extremely narrow window of opportunity to change policies and effect change- one which is closing rapidly.  The virus is replicating rapidly within the community. The arbitrary splitting of figures into “imported” and “local” cases merely serves to lull people into a false sense of security that this is somehow not our problem.  That COVID 19 is happening elsewhere, but not to us.  This false distinction is preventing us from taking the necessary action now, before it is too late.

 

I would urge you to reconsider: immediate school closure; closure of all non-essential shops and F&B establishments (except for take away services only); and enforced working from home for all but frontline employees will save lives.  We need strongly worded guidelines from the government, mandating that the elderly and high risk groups stay at home, and that all non-essential internal travel cease immediately.

 

I am not naive; I am aware that such draconian policies will come at huge economic costs.  But, if we act swiftly, they may yet mitigate the high mortality that cannot fail to come if we continue on our current course.

 

My sincere apologies for writing in such a blunt manner, but I am fearful for our nation, should the appropriate action not be taken in time.

 

Sincerely,

 

Dr Natalie Epton

MBChB MRCPCH FAMS

Consultant Paediatrician and Neonatologist

Mount Elizabeth Hospital Novena

Wow....could you...I mean you have...or did you...or you are the reason why the Government decide on this Circuit Breaker!? Well done....So great...no one has thought of it...

[Guest Guest]

12 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

4th death in a week of the 6 total dead. And it is those who were infected later who seems to be dying earlier now. The infection rate increased exponentially, and now what follows is the exponential death rate. If only all those mask wearing measures had been implemented earlier and the social distancing adhered and enforced earlier, we would have more time to combat it, such as stocking up our medical supplies and tests kits. But we squandered away the time we skimmed off, and now the virus is fast catching up with us. 

 

Gold standard? Under control? I don't think so. If the authorities still think that social distancing and mask wearing is going to be sufficient to make the entire situation go away miraculously, they are kidding themselves. 

 

As usual, this entire situation is run by a bunch of people who are merely listening to others who think they know best. 

 

Stocking up on medical supplies and test kits? Hahaha you see how many test kits, PPE and medical equipment we have given to China, Malaysia, Philippines and now Indonesia? 

[lonelyglobe]

7 hours ago, Guest Juxtaposed Yourself said:

 

The vast majority of "imported" coronavirus cases are due to returning Singaporeans and Permanent Residents, not from foreign tourists and business visitors, but never let the actual truth get in the way of a closed minded, foreigner bashing, xenophobic sissy keyboard warrior agenda.

U r right,  so far locals and PR make up most of the imported cases but the trend may change,  for example India and Bangladesh make up almost a quarter of the  74 and 49 cases for Wed and thurs, one third of the 65 cases yesterday, even more worrying is a lot of unlInked ones. 

 

Yes,  local idiots who still want to travel in Feb and Mar should be penalised but if we have put up stricter measures earlier to stop them from traveling,  situation may be different. Also,  I wonder what measures they have taken In dormitory and old folks home Or just leave it to luck? 

[Guest Guest]

7 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

U r right,  so far locals and PR make up most of the imported cases but the trend may change,  for example India and Bangladesh make up almost a quarter of the  74 and 49 cases for Wed and thurs, one third of the 65 cases yesterday, even more worrying is a lot of unlInked ones. 

 

Yes,  local idiots who still want to travel in Feb and Mar should be penalised but if we have put up stricter measures earlier to stop them from traveling,  situation may be different. Also,  I wonder what measures they have taken In dormitory and old folks home Or just leave it to luck? 

 

Wait till we reopen our borders... And dun forget who brought it in first... 

[jlone]

9 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

The vast majority of "imported" coronavirus cases are due to returning Singaporeans and Permanent Residents, not from foreign tourists and business visitors, but never let the actual truth get in the way of a closed minded, foreigner bashing, xenophobic sissy keyboard warrior agenda.

At this moment is the case. But I thought the first few cases locally were infected by foreign tourists right?

That's how  this disease has been started. 

[Kimochi]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Churches are not essential services in Singapore?

 

They are here in Texas.   We are decent people, we don't shut down  God 

Read the news about church in south Korea? 

[lonelyglobe]

God can wait,  virus won't wait. 

 

Looking at how the US and European tackle the problem, I hope our medical advisory team is not make up of angmohs .....they should consists of SK,  Taiwanese etc.... 

[fab]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Churches are not essential services in Singapore?

 

They are here in Texas.   We are decent people, we don't shut down  God 

 

If your God needs churches to communicate with you,  I worry for u.

 

[Guest Trinity]

1 hour ago, fab said:

 

If your God needs churches to communicate with you,  I worry for u.

 

If God is the Server Main Frame, you need a computer (church) to communicate with Him. Isn’t this logic correct? Huh? 

[Guest Guest]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-clusters-ce-la-vi-singapore-cricket-club-apr-3-12606542

 

65 new COVID-19 infections in Singapore; 3 new clusters including Singapore Cricket Club and MBS rooftop bar

Is this Ce La Vi rooftop bar at Marina Bay Sands  the one in Crazy Rich Asian show with all the synchronized swimming and fireworks? 

 

 

 

[Guest food piling]

21 hours ago, Guest Panic said:

Do you guys stockpiling some food? Is it necessary? I can buy some to last a few days n then what? Unless buying that can last a month.

 

19 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

yes, a one to two weeks range will be good,  things like cup noodles,  biscuit, cereal,  UHT milk,  canned food, frozen cakes,  pizza etc...  all have a long shelve life,  so can keep them and with the new rule kickIng in next week,  instead of going out to dabao, u can just eat at home. 

 

I don't think stockpiling is really required. 

But some stocks seem to be running out already even before the "lockdown" was announced. Such as some milk products, Swiss or French cheese, Fairprice Extra out of stock, left with the Australian cheddar cheese. 

Same goes for some basic things as tomato paste and Barilla noodles seemed gone too. Cooking oils were available. 

But so far, vegetables and fruits were available and supplies from Malaysia still coming to the stores. It looked all fresh and as usual. 

I m sure the farmers in Malaysia want to sell their produce and will deliver to Singapore. 

Wasn't at a Fairprice the last two days. Will give an update on Tuesday maybe, if shops were emptied. 

A colleague at the office went to one Fairprice and they had shut the gutter at the entrance and did not allow people inside. I m not sure whether they avoided to have a crowd or it was  a measure of crowd control. But saw the pictures from the queues at the news in the shops at night time, but personally think they are panicking a bit too much. 

 

But I think, these basic food supplies will remain on the current level, no fear to run out. Just need to do some basic home cooking. 

Have been doing some variations of some green vegetables with noodles or rice, different sauces and flavours, once in a while with some meat (chicken or pork). 

If you're not good at cooking some basics or don't have the kitchen, then yeah, sorry, must go for take away at the food courts. 

 

But to my guess, I would think plenty food stalls will close shop and wait for the month to be over. 

 

[singalion]

Don't really understand why they need to call the shut down "circuit breaker".

In Singapore they always need to invent new words for something what the dictionary already has.

 

Call it shut down or lock down.

 

These are all euphemisms we don't need and only confuse people.

 

For those here who had been asking: The measurement is a shut down of business, workplaces and economic operations. In all lock down countries so far, essential and life necessary business operations had been upheld, same as they do in Singapore.

 

I can only imagine it is due to some image purposes and later the Government can say: "Oh, Singapore never required any lock down!" [loud laughter from the off].

Edited April 15, 2020 by singalion
typo

[Guest Hazily Instructor]

5 hours ago, jlone said:

At this moment is the case. But I thought the first few cases locally were infected by foreign tourists right? That's how this disease has been started.

 

Coronavirus started in Wuhan, but even if Singapore had banned all foreigners from entering on January 20 for example, the disease still would have entered our country due to Singaporeans studying or working abroad. This is especially true for those studying or working in the PRC. When a disease is as pervasive as coronavirus, the only way to avoid it is to be completely isolated like those Atlantic and Pacific islands that barely have any contact with the outside world, which is not possible for an advanced nation like Singapore. The focus now needs to be on stemming the spread, helping find a vaccine, and later assisting the global community in reminding the people who started this pandemic with their filthy habits that no amount of propaganda will trick the world into letting them evade responsibility.

[singalion]

14 hours ago, Guest Juxtaposed Yourself said:

 

The vast majority of "imported" coronavirus cases are due to returning Singaporeans and Permanent Residents, not from foreign tourists and business visitors, but never let the actual truth get in the way of a closed minded, foreigner bashing, xenophobic sissy keyboard warrior agenda.

 

6 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

U r right,  so far locals and PR make up most of the imported cases but the trend may change,  for example India and Bangladesh make up almost a quarter of the  74 and 49 cases for Wed and thurs, one third of the 65 cases yesterday, even more worrying is a lot of unlInked ones. 

 

Yes,  local idiots who still want to travel in Feb and Mar should be penalised but if we have put up stricter measures earlier to stop them from traveling,  situation may be different. Also,  I wonder what measures they have taken In dormitory and old folks home Or just leave it to luck? 

 

Please guys, let's be fair. These Indian and Bangladeshi workers got infected at their workplaces and dormitory in Singapore. These are all local infections and not any "imported" infections, meaning the guys did not travel overseas and came back to Singapore infected.

These Indian and Bangla workers don't have the monies to fly back home and return to Singapore, probably their work permit doesn't even allow them to leave Singapore during their term.

 

These dormitory cases are similar to other clusters, like that SAFRA Jurong group of Hokkien leisure singers meet up.

And in the dormitories, the fellows sleep with 6 to 8 pax in one room, eat at the eateries in front, play cricket on the soccer plain and so on.

One guy catches the infection somewhere from someone (at a workplace, during shopping at Mustafa) and then Coronovirus will spread in such scenarios, like in all other clusters.

The infections of the Indian and Bangla workers resulted from the not so strict approach to allow returning travelers back to their families and not taking them into self isolated quarantine immediately after arrival. Hopefully, they can contain the virus spread with the dormitories.

 

I agree: Those Singaporean or PR or even EP Holders who went overseas after the express warning or request from the government to refrain from travelling for non essential purposes, should pay 75% of the hospital costs or other costs if they returned with Covid19. Those who were sent by their companies on business matters I would exempt as they followed office instructions, but the others should be penalised.

On the other hand note, most European countries immediately set a rule for everyone being able to cancel their travel trips at no costs or through a voucher system. The Government did not interfere here. You might have spent some 25k for a Europe trip with some of the local travel agents and no right to cancel with refund of the money. The Government approach could have been better to persuade people to cancel their leisure trips... and to force operators to permit cancellations.

 

I spent myself at least 3 days to cancel all my travel plans and argue with hotels and flight carriers (for SQ I was lucky, they always cancelled before I even wrote in) on a refund. For one trip it dragged on some three weeks until they confirmed the cancellation (free of charge and refund).

[lonelyglobe]

36 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

Please guys, let's be fair. These Indian and Bangladeshi workers got infected at their workplaces and dormitory in Singapore. These are all local infections and not any "imported" infections, meaning the guys did not travel overseas and came back to Singapore infected.

These Indian and Bangla workers don't have the monies to fly back home and return to Singapore, probably their work permit doesn't even allow them to leave Singapore during their term.

 

These dormitory cases are similar to other clusters, like that SAFRA Jurong group of Hokkien leisure singers meet up.

And in the dormitories, the fellows sleep with 6 to 8 pax in one room, eat at the eateries in front, play cricket on the soccer plain and so on.

One guy catches the infection somewhere from someone (at a workplace, during shopping at Mustafa) and then Coronovirus will spread in such scenarios, like in all other clusters.

The infections of the Indian and Bangla workers resulted from the not so strict approach to allow returning travelers back to their families and not taking them into self isolated quarantine immediately after arrival. Hopefully, they can contain the virus spread with the dormitories.

 

I agree: Those Singaporean or PR or even EP Holders who went overseas after the express warning or request from the government to refrain from travelling for non essential purposes, should pay 75% of the hospital costs or other costs if they returned with Covid19. Those who were sent by their companies on business matters I would exempt as they followed office instructions, but the others should be penalised.

On the other hand note, most European countries immediately set a rule for everyone being able to cancel their travel trips at no costs or through a voucher system. The Government did not interfere here. You might have spent some 25k for a Europe trip with some of the local travel agents and no right to cancel with refund of the money. The Government approach could have been better to persuade people to cancel their leisure trips... and to force operators to permit cancellations.

 

I spent myself at least 3 days to cancel all my travel plans and argue with hotels and flight carriers (for SQ I was lucky, they always cancelled before I even wrote in) on a refund. For one trip it dragged on some three weeks until they confirmed the cancellation (free of charge and refund).

Please read through all the cases,  some came with travel history of India and I am extremely curious how the very  first Bangladesh worker even kena?

 

If shopping at Mustafa Centre can kena,  why we don't have takashimaya cluster,  raffles city cluster,  somerset cluster? 

 

Let's not forget in the earlier confirmed cases, there is 2 " chicken" from china and if u go geylang on sat night, that may help to explain the many unlinked cases. Definitely someone along the chain is lying. 

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, Guest Hazily Instructor said:

 

Coronavirus started in Wuhan, but even if Singapore had banned all foreigners from entering on January 20 for example, the disease still would have entered our country due to Singaporeans studying or working abroad. This is especially true for those studying or working in the PRC. When a disease is as pervasive as coronavirus, the only way to avoid it is to be completely isolated like those Atlantic and Pacific islands that barely have any contact with the outside world, which is not possible for an advanced nation like Singapore. The focus now needs to be on stemming the spread, helping find a vaccine, and later assisting the global community in reminding the people who started this pandemic with their filthy habits that no amount of propaganda will trick the world into letting them evade responsibility.

I don't think SG will even dare to say something not nice about china, only US and Europe can do something with china and WTO and I am very sure they will, after all the economic losses and loss of life. China need to go back to the 60s, remain poor and under-developed,  the stronger china became, the more harm she is going to bring to the world. 

[singalion]

34 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Please read through all the cases,  some came with travel history of India and I am extremely curious how the very  first Bangladesh worker even kena?

 

If shopping at Mustafa Centre can kena,  why we don't have takashimaya cluster,  raffles city cluster,  somerset cluster? 

 

Let's not forget in the earlier confirmed cases, there is 2 " chicken" from china and if u go geylang on sat night, that may help to explain the many unlinked cases. Definitely someone along the chain is lying. 

 

I have been following the list every day. I did not see any imported case with a travel history from Bangladesh.

For the ones with the travel history to India, please note there are Indian expats here working under Employment Passes. For many of those with travel history to India, there were other family members. You need to look at the last column to identify the dependants.

Take case 834, 819 and 695 for example. It is clear the one male Indian person to be an Employment Pass Holder and the others to be his Dependants (Children, spouse).

Work Permit holders (workers) are not permitted for having family members (spouse children) in Singapore.

 

These Bangla and Indian cases for the dormitories are all marked as "local linked" and not as "imported" cases.

Please also note about the pass revocation for Work Permit Holders and stricter outbound travel requirements since 6 March for these workers.

 

The first group of Bangla workers started at Seletar airspace on some construction, already quite early in Feb, it was one of the earlier clusters.

 

For the guy who brought up something the sort of no respect for distancing cultures (was not you lonelyglobe) I would wonder what distancing culture that big group of Hokkien singers at the Jurong Safra had???

[Guest Guest]

10 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Singapore reports 6th COVID-19 death, an 88-year-old man

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-reports-6th-covid-19-death-88-year-old-man-12609326

 

I started to realise cricket club is full of Indians.

 

So, 88 years old man is a PR. Probably, is an Indian. RIP.

[Guest Guest]

Interesting fact collected... Why there are so much death rate in Iran, Italy but much lower death rate in Singapore, Malaysia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea, Australia

 

BCG Vaccine! 卡芥苗！

Younger Singaporeans are unlikely to die. If you are born after 1960s in Singapore, chances of dying is confirm lesser! 

[lonelyglobe]

Jesus Christ,  more dormitory kena and what are they doing,  still let them stay there and infect one another? Move them to budget hotel or set up camp in school,  all worker must be tested and shown negative before they can move back.

SG 1189 cases is almost the combined cases of Taiwan(355) + HK(862). What is happening? Time to wake up and do something before SGH became BGH. 

Edited April 4, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Steve5380]

12 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

This thread is about " covid19 discussion in SINGAPORE"...not Texas.....Wrong thread.

 

There is plenty about the US in this thread already.  And so it should be.

The virus in Singapore and the US is the same!

 

11 hours ago, Guest Xoxom said:

 

Good...God will shut most of you down...All if we're lucky. How decent can y'all be as selfish and ignorant as you are.

 

Unlike  you,  I have the decency to know how selfish and ignorant I am.   

 

11 hours ago, feedersmiracle said:

Time to buy sex toys from ebay, or something.

 

Like we should be creative in finding ways to exercise at home,

cannot one be creative finding sex toys at home?

.

Edited April 4, 2020 by Steve5380

[Steve5380]

10 hours ago, Kimochi said:

Read the news about church in south Korea? 

 

 Being God so big and powerful,  the members of the  Shinchehonji Church of Jesus

didn't pray strong enough to overcome God's inertia to save them from the virus.

 

10 hours ago, fab said:

 

If your God needs churches to communicate with you,  I worry for u.

 

 

If so, you should worry about God,  not about me.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by Steve5380

[lonelyglobe]

5 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

 Being God so big and powerful,  the members of the  Shinchehonji Church of Jesus

didn't pray strong enough to overcome God's inertia to save them from the virus.

 

 

If so, you should worry about God,  not about me.

 

 

so did American pray strong enough? This is a problem created by human beings and human beings have to solve it and not God,  don't everything also must ask God, like that God will be very busy and need to work overtime. 

[Steve5380]

so,

8 hours ago, Guest Trinity said:

If God is the Server Main Frame, you need a computer (church) to communicate with Him. Isn’t this logic correct? Huh? 

It is somewhat correct.  But if from home you need a satellite or broadband connection to God,  in church you can use WiFi and even Bluetooth to connect more intimately with Him.

 

8 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

We need the churches in Texas to remain open, so that God can eradicate stupid people who still want to congregate together, all at one go. It will make things easier for him instead of having him to pick out stupids like you one by one.  

 

If God is so almighty as it is preached,  he should know enough to eradicate the Stupid in Chief,  Donald Trump,  who cannot understand why people cannot join together, why he should procure tens of thousands of ventilators, millions of PPE sets, millions of covid-19 test kits, and why he should wear a mask.  This would save more Americans than those who can get infected and perish in churches.

 

 

[Carlofrcentral]

What you fail to understand is that if people get infected in churches, it is not just you church-goers who are affected - you will infect hundreds or thousands of people too. If only you or your church-mates get sick and die - by all means go to church everyday.

 

Moreover, your god is supposedly omnipresent so it should not matter if you do your hallelujahs at church or at home. If you insist that your prayers will not get heard unless you are inside the church - then your god is as stupid as you.

[Steve5380]

7 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

so did American pray strong enough? This is a problem created by human beings and human beings have to solve it and not God,  don't everything also must ask God, like that God will be very busy and need to work overtime. 

 

Don't we know from Jesus Christ followers that God has infinite love for his creatures, and will do everything he can, even work overtime,  to bring salvation up to the least deserving of his children?  And the problem may not have been created by human beings but by God himself,  who has created the whole animal kingdom including all viruses.

[lonelyglobe]

U win already.... Now I understand why America became the biggest victim in this pandemic. 

Edited April 4, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Steve5380]

12 minutes ago, Carlofrcentral said:

 

Moreover, your god is supposedly omnipresent so it should not matter if you do your hallelujahs at church or at home. If you insist that your prayers will not get heard unless you are inside the church - then your god is as stupid as you.

 

 

I just recall my childhood education.  God is omnipresent in spirit everywhere.  In the Catholic Church, Jesus Christ is present in person during Mass.  And with Communion, you will have God... inside!

[Guest 123YYY]

18 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Don't we know from Jesus Christ followers that God has infinite love for his creatures, and will do everything he can, even work overtime,  to bring salvation up to the least deserving of his children?  And the problem may not have been created by human beings but by God himself,  who has created the whole animal kingdom including all viruses.

 

Jesus loves the little children. All of the children in the world.

[Kimochi]

Different beliefs...  Science vs religion... But lets not dwell into it. 

[Steve5380]

12 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Him? Nightwhore?? Of course NOT la! He can only copy and paste people's contribution without the proper links to try misleading people into thinking it is his doings....Muahahahahahaha.... 

 

WHAT?  You are such a miserable troll and fantasizer that you cannot recognize the contribution Nightingale made to the well being of your country by sending this letter of Dr. Natalie Epton to the authorities?   What have YOU done to benefit your fellow citizens?

[Guest Guest]

3 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Jesus Christ,  more dormitory kena and what are they doing,  still let them stay there and infect one another? Move them to budget hotel or set up camp in school,  all worker must be tested and shown negative before they can move back.

SG 1189 cases is almost the combined cases of Taiwan(355) + HK(862). What is happening? Time to wake up and do something before SGH became BGH. 

 

Think the capacity at Toh Guan alone is 7800 beds, if they are all occupied and most kenna, many things in SG will grind to a crawl due to our high dependency on foreign labour, our healthcare and nurses/doctors will be overloaded, pray got enough ventilators.

 

Time to make women serve NS as nurses, since women want equality, NS for all!

[fab]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

 

 

If so, you should worry about God,  not about me.

 

 

 

I worry for u cos u r worshipping him.

 

I don't worry for your God cos he is not worshipping you, but more importantly,  I know he doesn't exist.

[jlone]

13 hours ago, Guest Hazily Instructor said:

Coronavirus started in Wuhan, but even if Singapore had banned all foreigners from entering on January 20 for example, the disease still would have entered our country due to Singaporeans studying or working abroad.

But we would have been lessen by many cases if the locals were not infected by tourists initially. Remember how the cluster from the Assembly of God church got infected.

Anyway, it's fated. Anything bound to happen will happen.

[lonelyglobe]

On 2/9/2020 at 11:53 PM, lonelyglobe said:

it is  possible as there can be no symptoms or just pass off like normal flu, only when doctor suspect and send them for further test,  then can discover...stay in dormitory?  So now they have to quarantine the whole dormitory. 

if more have been done to control the spread of virus in dormitory,  we would not have all these new clusters in dormitory, another act of carelessness and over confident leading to a big disaster. 

Edited April 5, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Tyler nipples]

19 hours ago, fab said:

 

If your God needs churches to communicate with you,  I worry for u.

 

Well some gods in churches require the tithes.

 

The real God above lives in my heart.

 

Covid will come and GO

 

But God stays eternal

 

 

[jlone]

18 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

if more have been done to control the spread of virus in dormitory,  we would not have all these new clusters in dormitory, another act of carelessness and over confident leading to a big disaster. 

They would rather spend time n money on contact tracing rather than wasting money n time on testing the virus in human beings.

[Guest Guest]

How many more among us didn't know they have the virus inside them?

 

And to make it worse, she was sent home after getting tested "negative" first at NCID, only to be tested a second time to be found "positive" at KTPH, even though she might already be at the tail end of her infection. Please don't tell me our test kits are all those that came from China and deemed useless and unworthy by all those EU nations? 

 

There seems to be so many missteps here that it is actually frightening. Do we really have the situation under control? 

 

‘We didn’t know there was a virus inside of us’: A young couple’s fight against COVID-19

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-singapore-couple-uk-ncid-mild-symptoms-12606966

 

"And when it came to social distancing, the couple had taken all the necessary precautions. Not attending the usual church service, not heading out farther than the neighbourhood, not going out to crowded areas."

 

 

“There was no fever, no flu, no anything,” she said. “He only had a cough … a kind of cough once in a couple of hours. For me, when I had my flu, I couldn’t smell and taste, so I thought that was normal for somebody who had just recovered from the flu.”

 

Her husband was later found to be COVID-19 positive and admitted to NCID, while his wife was found to be negative.

 

“The reason why we wanted to get tested is because he was convinced that I would be positive and he would be negative, we didn’t expect that he would be the one who would have been tested positive,” she said.

 

But at the same time, she wasn’t convinced that she was COVID-19 free.

 

“I didn’t feel very confident of the results based on my symptoms,” she said. “At that point of time there were more articles online about the loss of smell and taste, how that is a crucial symptom for the virus. So I really thought I had it.”

 

After making a few calls and explaining her situation, she was eventually sent to the Khoo Teck Puat Hospital (KTPH) for testing on Mar 26. This time, she was warded, even before the tests results were out. 

 

At 6.30am the next morning, she was informed that she had tested positive. “The doctor said he suspected that I was nearing the tail-end of the infection, but because the virus was still in me, I still have to be here as you can still spread it to people,” she said. 

 

 

 

[Guest Xoxom]

15 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Unlike  you,  I have the decency to know how selfish and ignorant I am.   

 

You don’t know me, don’t pretend to. You are not decent....just blatantly arrogant like most Americans. Why are you here, in this forum or in Singapore? You should be back in the US of A with Trump and hopefully infected and dying whilst your redneck inbred siblings pray to a false God, spewing more viruses from their decay mouth, infecting more around them. It’s the cycle which I hope really strikes down a-holes like you. 
 

 

[Guest toohorny]

I had not had sex since Jan due to covid situation

i'm so horny and has strong desire of sucking man cock and get penetrated

[lonelyglobe]

49 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

How many more among us didn't know they have the virus inside them?

 

And to make it worse, she was sent home after getting tested "negative" first at NCID, only to be tested a second time to be found "positive" at KTPH, even though she might already be at the tail end of her infection. Please don't tell me our test kits are all those that came from China and deemed useless and unworthy by all those EU nations? 

 

There seems to be so many missteps here that it is actually frightening. Do we really have the situation under control? 

 

That's the scary part of this virus,  people with no symptoms but remains infectious.

I tot we develop our own test kits and we have sent to help  some countries so if no complaint from them,  that should be OK.

Foreigners who still believe we are of golden standard + 70% die-hard fans,  only 30% realised we are into deep shit.

Edited April 5, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[jlone]

Now most singies are leaving it to fate.

 

 

[Guest Guest]

Should conduct anti body test for more people during this soft lockdown. There may be many more who might have already recovered and not know it, these people can go back to work or assist nearer to the frontline.

[leo yok loo]

6 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

if more have been done to control the spread of virus in dormitory,  we would not have all these new clusters in dormitory, another act of carelessness and over confident leading to a big disaster. 

Not only carelessness, also selfishness (those bosses from construction company). Just today i saw lorries with full load of workers sitting at the back, going to work. Social distance ??? These poor workers cant complian also. 

[Guest Recovered?]

Why is this a soft lockdown?

 

Closures are nearly the same as in Malaysia.

 

Better leave the people out of the frontline/ workforce. To be safe should be 50 days.

 

Somewhere it was said  recovered people are still spreading the virus.

 

Here latest research on this:

 

• spread of coronavirus around the world

2. Am I still infectious after recovering? 

Probably to some extent, though the first batch of studies is far from conclusive as to how long it lasts. Provisional research from Germany has suggested that COVID-19 infectiousness – in contrast to the 2003 SARS outbreak – peaks early and that recovering patients with mild symptoms become low-risk around 10 days after they first fall ill. But another study, following four medical professionals treated at a Wuhan hospital, revealed that traces of the virus could persist in the body for up to two weeks after symptoms had vanished; as the patients were no longer coughing or sneezing, the potential means of transmission were albeit much reduced. Less optimistic was a study published last week in The Lancet medical journal that showed the virus survived in one Chinese patient’s respiratory tract for 37 days– well above the average of 24 days for those with critical disease status. 

3. Can I catch COVID-19 a second time?

Catching a coronavirus generally means that person is immune, at least for a time, to repeat infection. But doubts arose regarding COVID-19 in late February when a woman in her late 40s who had been discharged from hospital in Osaka, Japan tested positive a second time. There also a similar case with one of the Diamond Princess passengers, and another in South Korea. These were isolated cases, but more worrying was research from Guangdong province, China reporting that 14% of recovering patients had also retested positive

[Guest Guest]

10 minutes ago, Guest Recovered? said:

Why is this a soft lockdown?

 

Closures are nearly the same as in Malaysia.

 

Ohhh nooooo... it is NOT a lockdown! It is just a circuit breaker! Why is it not a lockdown? It's because our great leeders had already said it is NOT a lockdown. You want to be sued under the Proliferation of Online Falsehood and Manipulation Act?? So let's put our brains away and all say together in one UNITED SINGAPORE voice : "It is not a LOCKDOWN!"

[leo yok loo]

1 minute ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Ohhh nooooo... it is NOT a lockdown! It is just a circuit breaker! Why is it not a lockdown? It's because our great leeders had already said it is NOT a lockdown. You want to be sued under the Proliferation of Online Falsehood and Manipulation Act?? So let's put our brains away and all say together in one UNITED SINGAPORE voice : "It is not a LOCKDOWN!"

Great leader study electrical engineering.

When circuit breaker trip, it cut off all power, everything stops.

Is it a lock down ???

Must ask great leader.

[Guest Guest]

10 minutes ago, Guest Recovered? said:

Why is this a soft lockdown?

 

Closures are nearly the same as in Malaysia.

 

Better leave the people out of the frontline/ workforce. To be safe should be 50 days.

 

Somewhere it was said  recovered people are still spreading the virus.

 

I understand where you are coming from, but don't forget we already had 2 cases who recovered on their own a few weeks back and was only tested after. Thing is there might already be more than that as some really exhibit really mild symptoms. Some were discharged from hospitals within a few days as well. Imagine those who already kenna and didn't know and are hiding scared at home. If we don't take a more active testing stance for antibodies, we may be are stalling our recovery.

 

Mass testing for covid is a different test, so far from authorities, which may not be practical cos you might be -ve today, but might be +ve a few days later.

 

Malaysia's MCO is stricter, some media cites as only partial lockdown, some states even have enhanced MCO.