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24 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Mass testing for covid is a different test, so far from authorities, which may not be practical cos you might be -ve today, but might be +ve a few days later.

 

Is that even an excuse for not going for mass testing? At the barest minimum, we can still detect more of those who are asymptomatic but are still infected to reduce the spread of the virus. Finding the infected people and treating them will make the virus go away; social distancing and keeping people at home and not doing anything more will not make the virus go away miraculously. As for those who were not tested positive the first round, it might be because they were really not infected then, and subsequent rounds of further testings would be able to keep reducing the figures more and more.

 

However, the case of the girl above who was tested negative even with her developed symptoms is really casting doubts on the validity of the test kits. So the question now is not even the effectiveness of mass testings in rooting out the virus. The question now is the effectiveness of the test kits which seems to be giving all the wrong results.  

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1 minute ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Is that even an excuse for not going for mass testing? At the barest minimum, we can still detect more of those who are asymptomatic but are still infected to reduce the spread of the virus. Finding the infected people and treating them will make the virus go away; social distancing and keeping people at home and not doing anything more will not make the virus go away miraculously. As for those who were not tested positive the first round, it might be because they were really not infected then, and subsequent rounds of further testings would be able to keep reducing the figures more and more.

 

However, the case of the girl above who was tested negative even with her developed symptoms is really casting doubts on the validity of the test kits. So the question now is not even the effectiveness of mass testings in rooting out the virus. The question now is the effectiveness of the test kits which seems to be giving all the wrong results.  

 

That's why the surer test is for antibodies. Maybe the thing about this virus is, unfortunately, we may all have to get it.

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To add on regarding the testing, you never know at what point you get infected, look at Hero's bar case, the ang moh went to the bar on the 10th, the others went like 3-4 days later and got the virus. The church goer just sat on the same seat as the wuhan couple later in the day and she got infected. So imagine if you get tested today -ve, tomorrow you happen to touch on a surface and get infected then it'll render the original test pointless.

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3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Some say 50-60, some Harvard epidemiologist say 70, Oz virologist say all may get.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/health-ministers-set-to-work-on-virus-plan-c-720205

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 The link from Oz is dated 28th of February. 

Massive changes in OZ since then.

No football and no cricket if you read what the PM said back then.

 

 Meanwhile, Singapore is no longer the poster boy down here on how to handle the virus.

The latest chart has shown Singapore going through the roof.

I hope Singapore can bring it back to managing levels with it's latest restrictions of people movement.

No one wants it getting out of hand like in other parts of the world.

 

In Melbourne you can leave the house for work, exercise, grocery shopping and helping the elderly/disabled.

Otherwise massive fine on the spot if your story doesn't measure up when stopped by police.

 

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19 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

If God is so almighty as it is preached,  he should know enough to eradicate the Stupid in Chief,  Donald Trump.

 

 

Which God are you praying?   My God is a God of life, love, peace and hope.  My God heals and Save.  What are you talking?

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4 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

Not only carelessness, also selfishness (those bosses from construction company). Just today i saw lorries with full load of workers sitting at the back, going to work. Social distance ??? These poor workers cant complian also. 

All the companies involved are going to be the scapegoat for the spike in Bangladesh covid confirm cases.....

 

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34 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Next,  would we see a spike in Philippino maid infection and these maid in turn infect their respective families they worked for...... OK,  perhaps is time for mass screening as suggested by some. 

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Around 20k workers quarantined in their dorms, how many have maid girlfriends? Families with maids better take note esp if they had been with these workers for the past 2 weeks.

 

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Today , HK got 28 cases ....we got 120 cases here ! If the carers such as doctors and nurses got infected one by one , we are finished !! 
I have mentioned about the risks of dorms on FB multiple times before this convid virus but who could be bothered ? I am such an insignificant person in the world .....

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13 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Today , HK got 28 cases ....we got 120 cases here ! If the carers such as doctors and nurses got infected one by one , we are finished !! 
I have mentioned about the risks of dorms on FB multiple times before this convid virus but who could be bothered ? I am such an insignificant person in the world .....

Is quite strange,  all the commoners seems to realised the risk of dormitory and old folk home infection but then not the few important decision makers. 

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7 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Is quite strange,  all the commoners seems to realised the risk of dormitory and old folk home infection but then not the few important decision makers. 

 

The first bangalah (still in ICU?) should be a red flag liao. If the domestic workers also kenna jialat jialat, and they all take up our hospital beds, ICUs and resources, sinkies who kenna later will we have access? Will hospitals start to determine who gets the ventilator?

 

Lets hope the clubbers who had the last hurrah don’t have any casualties, otherwise...

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2 hours ago, passinthenight said:

 

 The link from Oz is dated 28th of February. 

Massive changes in OZ since then.

No football and no cricket if you read what the PM said back then.

 

 Meanwhile, Singapore is no longer the poster boy down here on how to handle the virus.

The latest chart has shown Singapore going through the roof.

I hope Singapore can bring it back to managing levels with it's latest restrictions of people movement.

No one wants it getting out of hand like in other parts of the world.

 

In Melbourne you can leave the house for work, exercise, grocery shopping and helping the elderly/disabled.

Otherwise massive fine on the spot if your story doesn't measure up when stopped by police.

 

Obviously SG have failed this round,  as of today,  our total cases of 1309 is more than the combined  of HK(890) + Taiwan(363) + Macau(44). Definitely,  someone have to be responsible for this after the whole things ended. 

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18 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Is quite strange,  all the commoners seems to realised the risk of dormitory and old folk home infection but then not the few important decision makers. 

I always call them the dumb  educated ones who utter nonsense all day long.....let’s wait for the doctors and nurses clusters ....the airport will be reopened for many to fly to ulu places by then and those who came back from overseas ...I am lmao 

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4 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

The first bangalah (still in ICU?) should be a red flag liao. If the domestic workers also kenna jialat jialat, and they all take up our hospital beds, ICUs and resources, sinkies who kenna later will we have access? Will hospitals start to determine who gets the ventilator?

 

Lets hope the clubbers who had the last hurrah don’t have any casualties, otherwise...

BEDS 1 IN INPATIENT FACILITIES

    2017   2018   2019 

HOSPITALS

     
Acute Hospitals 2 10,340 10,826  11,321
►Public  8,623  9,071   9,404
►Not-for-Profit   271   273    288
►Private  1,446  1,482   1,629
Psychiatric Hospitals  1,950  1,950   1,950
►Public  1,950  1,950   1,950
►Not-for-Profit     -     -       -
►Private     -     -       -
Community Hospitals  1,663  1,778   1,986
►Public 3   690   799     974
►Not-for-Profit 4   969   979   1,012
►Private 5     4     -       -



Should be enough but never mind, we got a lot  of empty convention centre now which can turn into temporary wards like those in china. 



 

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10 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

BEDS 1 IN INPATIENT FACILITIES
Should be enough but never mind, we got a lot  of empty convention centre now which can turn into temporary wards like those in china. 

 

Don’t forget we have other critical patients, cancer, accidents and the like. At one point there were many complains of insufficient beds and the long waiting time for it.

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2 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

BEDS 1 IN INPATIENT FACILITIES

 


Should be enough but never mind, we got a lot  of empty convention centre now which can turn into temporary wards like those in china. 

 

Forgot to add, we may not have enough doctors and nurses, think really have to recall MOs and medics. Now SIA deploy their crew as care ambassadors, if I kenna can I get a cute steward to care for me? 

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19 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Forgot to add, we may not have enough doctors and nurses, think really have to recall MOs and medics. Now SIA deploy their crew as care ambassadors, if I kenna can I get a cute steward to care for me? 

Most SIA stewards are not cute lar, 

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53 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Why? Can't take the shame that our Singapore is no longer lauded as the "Gold Standard"? Need to hide the fact that Taiwan controlled it better than us? 

Even HK with lots of cheena crossing the border is doing much better ..

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If you guys still want to spread and die isolated , you can still go parks , stadiums , beaches , void  decks, religious practice groups , etc  after today .....happy joining the  straight families , elderlies and die together 

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10 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

12 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Most SIA stewards are not cute lar, 

 

suave and fit combat medic also can.

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When S'poreans get infected by coronavirus, government scolds S'poreans for organising events / meeting friends / not observing social distancing.

 

When S'poreans get infected with coronavirus overseas, government blames S'poreans for travelling.

 

When Banglah workers have "significant number" of coronavirus cases, government warns S'poreans not to target them as a group.

 

Always nice to know that our government has our best interests at heart.

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Fear is growing at a dormitory designated as an isolation area because of an infection cluster, with workers saying they do not have masks, and are living in unsanitary and crowded conditions.

At least six workers at the S11 Dormitory @ Punggol, where there are 63 confirmed cases of Covid-19, told The Straits Times that the rooms are infested with cockroaches and toilets are overflowing. Workers have to queue for food with no social distancing measures to keep them apart.

 

What happens? Are this our golden standard for dormitory?  Are the minister of manpower / environment aware of this? If yes,  why no actions taken? If no,  how come don't know? Sitting in air-con office for too long? What is the dormitory manager/housekeeper doing? 

If conditions is that bad,  what is the point of isolating inside there,  use brain please, u know, BRAiN. 

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This was what he said on 8 Feb 2020, goaded on by all the cronies: "We have faced the 2019-nCoV situation for about 2 weeks now. People are understandably anxious & fearful, but there is no need to panic — Singapore has ample supplies. Instead, let us remain united & resolute, stay calm & carry on with our lives" 

 

Look at the comments written by everyone as early as 8 Feb. The writings were already on the walls then.  I particularly like this one: 

 

Cheekunn @Cheekuan7

Feb 9 Replying to @leehsienloong

that sounds familiar. two weeks before in China, the authority expressed the same confidence

 

 

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1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

Fear is growing at a dormitory designated as an isolation area because of an infection cluster, with workers saying they do not have masks, and are living in unsanitary and crowded conditions.

At least six workers at the S11 Dormitory @ Punggol, where there are 63 confirmed cases of Covid-19, told The Straits Times that the rooms are infested with cockroaches and toilets are overflowing. Workers have to queue for food with no social distancing measures to keep them apart.

 

What happens? Are this our golden standard for dormitory?  Are the minister of manpower / environment aware of this? If yes,  why no actions taken? If no,  how come don't know? Sitting in air-con office for too long? What is the dormitory manager/housekeeper doing? 

If conditions is that bad,  what is the point of isolating inside there,  use brain please, u know, BRAiN. 

 

These workers jin poor thing, if fear, stress and anger sets in, its gonna explode.

 

”But workers are worried about the current state of their living quarters.

"There are many cockroaches in the kitchen and also in our rooms. The urinals in the toilets are overflowing with urine and the workers step on the urine and then walk to their rooms," said Indian national Venkate S.H., 34.

"Today, one cleaner went to the toilet and just sprayed water and left. He didn't use any Dettol and also did not dispose of the trash, which has been around for two days.

"Empty food boxes are piled up on the rubbish bins and these bins are very near our rooms."

Mr Venkate said officers from the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) visited the dormitory last Saturday night and, at around 9pm, one announced that the dormitory would be fully locked down, with no one allowed to leave the premises.“

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/workers-describe-crowded-cramped-living-conditions?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586130193

 

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51 minutes ago, Since u r here said:


where did he buy his 1-m high shoes? I would like to wear one so that no one could cough or sneeze near me.

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3 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Fear is growing at a dormitory designated as an isolation area because of an infection cluster, with workers saying they do not have masks, and are living in unsanitary and crowded conditions.

At least six workers at the S11 Dormitory @ Punggol, where there are 63 confirmed cases of Covid-19, told The Straits Times that the rooms are infested with cockroaches and toilets are overflowing. Workers have to queue for food with no social distancing measures to keep them apart.

 

What happens? Are this our golden standard for dormitory?  Are the minister of manpower / environment aware of this? If yes,  why no actions taken? If no,  how come don't know? Sitting in air-con office for too long? What is the dormitory manager/housekeeper doing? 

If conditions is that bad,  what is the point of isolating inside there,  use brain please, u know, BRAiN. 

Manpower minister stay in heaven all along. She just decend to our mortal world yesterday.

她刚刚才从仙境下凡。

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1 hour ago, leo yok loo said:

Manpower minister stay in heaven all along. She just decend to our mortal world yesterday.

她刚刚才从仙境下凡。


The one who called Singaporean women “MOTHER HENS”, and also said that we only need small spaces to have sex? Maybe she only goes to the dorms to ensure that the “FATHER COCKS” are well cooped up, and the space is sufficiently legal for them?  

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The one who called Singaporean women “MOTHER HENS”, and also said that we only need small spaces to have sex? Maybe she only goes to the dorms to ensure that the “FATHER COCKS” are well cooped up, and the space is sufficiently legal for them?  

Yes , the one said make love no need big space.

MOM also adviced the workers to keep social distancing in dorms, but never tell them how? Ask her stay in dorm for 1 month better, then she can show them how to keep distance.

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57 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

I tot national crisis minimum can  get $3000..

Sigh...$600. Yao gwee.

Now is year 2020, not 1990...

 

You must always read between the lines. Nobody ever specify how long a period or how the money will be disbursed out. They can even give you $xxxx amount all in NTUC vouchers over 50 years, OK?  

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2 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

I tot national crisis minimum can  get $3000..

Sigh...$600. Yao gwee.

Now is year 2020, not 1990...

 

More like 1970....

 

Lol.

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Does this looks like a place where people are serving "isolation", or does this look more like a place to "incubate" the virus for further release into the community when the 14 days period is over? 

 

The last person to be infected in a crowd like this, will not be on the first day of the 14-day isolation itself. The last person to be infected might just be infected on the 14th day just before they are all released. And that last person can remain asymptomatic for the next few days while he goes about running his personal errands like buying his favorite curry at some grocery shop and going for take-outs at his usual hawker center all around Singapore.

 

But if these guys are to be isolated too long, we might see another 2013 Little India riot happening ...and this time with more than just 300 people involved. 

 

This is almost a disaster waiting to happen. 

 

 

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OMG.... At first I tot the video was taken in some Bangladesh markets until I saw the Chinese..... Quarantine for 14 days but construction site should closed until 4 may right? 

 

From day one they are already doing things to set up for a disaster to happen.... Still got people not wearing mask and where is the 1m rule? Where is the minister of manpower? Should come and give some encouraging speech and shed some tears right?

 

Never mind,  SG police force very efficient and experienced in handling riots,  we should worry more if the lock down continues,  SG already so boring even before lock down,  like that won't die from the virus but will die from boredom leh.   .

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CORONAVIRUS: S'PORE, PLEASE, JUST STAY HOME - THE CIRCUIT BREAKER WORKS ONLY IF WE ALL DO. We are in this state today because we have failed to listen; we have failed to do the right thing.

what a nonsense report again, who is the culprit for the big dormitory cluster? Who is the one discouraging wearing of mask even for service provider?

 

We are in this state today simply because of incapable team with all the one-step behind measures.

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17 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

CORONAVIRUS: S'PORE, PLEASE, JUST STAY HOME - THE CIRCUIT BREAKER WORKS ONLY IF WE ALL DO. We are in this state today because we have failed to listen; we have failed to do the right thing.

what a nonsense report again, who is the culprit for the big dormitory cluster? Who is the one discouraging wearing of mask even for service provider?

 

We are in this state today simply because of incapable team with all the one-step behind measures.

Dormitory's living condition is hell for over many many years...you know i know and MOM also knows.

Why no action? Because dorm operators and construction companys making money. This is call "Modern Slavery".

 

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10 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

51 recovered coronavirus patients test positive AGAIN in South Korea amid fears the deadly infection may be able to hide in human cells and reactivate

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

 

Like herpes?

 

Reinfection unlikely among COVID-19 patients, say experts

 

Some of those who were retested may have appeared to still be infected because “of the quality of the specimen that they took and maybe because the test was not so sensitive,” Professor David Hui of the Chinese University of Hong Kong told Time.

 

“Viral RNA can last a long time even after the actual virus has been stopped” and could account for such cases, he said.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/reinfection-unlikely-among-covid-19-patients-say-experts/

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51 recovered coronavirus patients test positive AGAIN in South Korea amid fears the deadly infection may be able to hide in human cells and reactivate

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

 

Like herpes?

 

 

“Coronaviruses aren’t new, they’ve been around for a long, long time and many species - not just humans - get them,” he explained. “So we know a fair amount about coronaviruses in general. For the most part, the feeling is once you’ve had a specific coronavirus, you are immune.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-immunity-reinfection-get-covid-19-twice-sick-spread-relapse-a9400691.html?amp

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1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

CORONAVIRUS: S'PORE, PLEASE, JUST STAY HOME - THE CIRCUIT BREAKER WORKS ONLY IF WE ALL DO. We are in this state today because we have failed to listen; we have failed to do the right thing.

what a nonsense report again, who is the culprit for the big dormitory cluster? Who is the one discouraging wearing of mask even for service provider?

 

We are in this state today simply because of incapable team with all the one-step behind measures.

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-please-just-stay-home-the-circuit-breaker-works-only-if-we-all-do

 

Article was written for Straits Times... So of course it is everyone else's fault except for those people who led us to this stage... 

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