All about Covid-19 Discussion in Singapore (compiled)

[wilfgene]

49 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

When i  meant CB lifted , i meant with those responsible kind of restrictions, not making economy coming to a standstill MORE so the curve is getting flattened!

we all knew NZ took 11 days to see impacts and great results but NOW we extended it for  a ridiculous mth!

Midnight is here, dawn can't be that far ahead.

Let's not overlook the vast majority of confirmed cases are in the dorms.

Hence relatively not difficult to pin point who to test and quarantine.

Which partly explains the shocking high number.

[Guest Guest]

SK has outlined their way going forward for the next 2 years if no vaccine is found. It’s a good start, practical and forward looking move instead of excessive back patting, deflecting with lame excuses which doesn’t do any good.

 

Work smart, travel alone, eat out fast: South Korea's prescription for COVID-19 recovery

 

"The government is preparing a transition to a sustainable routine distancing scheme with the goal of carrying out regular social and economic activity and preventing COVID-19 infections at the same time," he said.

The guidelines detail a code of conduct in areas including workplaces, transport, restaurants, shopping and sporting fixtures, starting with general rules such as washing hands, maintaining distance and regular temperature checks and disinfection.

Anyone who travelled overseas within the past two weeks should not go to work for some time, and workplaces are strongly recommended to use video conferences, online training, remote work and flexible hours.

Passengers on public transport need to wear a mask and try booking a seat in empty rows, while mobile payments should be used for taxis.

 

The guidelines urged people to spend minimal time at restaurants and cafes and use individual plates to share food. The owners of the businesses should place seating apart, divided by partitions if possible, and actively promote takeout and delivery services alongside online payment.

Private academies and religious facilities are strongly advised to provide hand sanitisers but no food.

In shopping malls, customers should not test samples and should wait at least 1 m behind others at checkouts, while shop owners should refrain from soliciting for business and holding first-come-first-served events.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/covid-19-south-korea-coronavirus-recovery-12674218

[Guest Guest]

For those who are happy the numbers seem to be going down for the past couple of days, watch the video in the link and listen carefully how many were excluded in the tabulation.

 

Some foreign worker dormitories changing COVID-19 diagnostic criteria for positive cases

 

Fewer COVID-19 tests are being conducted in foreign worker dormitories with higher infection rates as those diagnosed with respiratory illness are deemed to have COVID-19. Melissa Goh speaks to an infectious diseases expert about this issue. 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/some-foreign-worker-dormitories-changing-covid-19-diagnostic-12677140

[Guest Try and see]

COVID-19: Enough for 30,000 free meals – donations stun cute NTU undergrad cooking beehoon for the needy

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/enough-for-30-000-free-meals-donations-stun-ntu-undergrads-12677330

 

https://give.asia/campaign/raydy-gives#/updates

[Guest Guest]

38 minutes ago, Guest Try and see said:

COVID-19: Enough for 30,000 free meals – donations stun cute NTU undergrad cooking beehoon for the needy

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/enough-for-30-000-free-meals-donations-stun-ntu-undergrads-12677330

 

https://give.asia/campaign/raydy-gives#/updates

 

Cute only with the mask on.

[Guest Guest]

On Apr. 24, 2020, The Ministry of Health (MOH) confirmed nine new Covid-19 clusters in Singapore.

Massage parlour among nine new clusters announced on Apr. 24

One of the new clusters involved the East Coast outlet of the massage parlour Natureland, located at 907 East Coast Road.

MOH announced on Apr. 24 that six of the earlier confirmed cases were discovered to be linked to the cluster.

On Apr. 25, 2020, Natureland Group put up a statement on their website, revealing more details on the situation.

"It is important for our customers to know how we handled the situation as it happened", the statement read.

Customer showed no symptoms during visit, later tested positive

 

Natureland Group said that they had received a call from MOH on Apr. 1, informing them that one of their customers, a Vietnamese Employment Pass holder had tested positive for Covid-19.

The customer had visited the massage parlour's East Coast outlet on Mar. 19, and had shown no symptoms on that day.

MOH then instructed Natureland to have the therapist who saw to the customer to stay home until Apr. 2, 2020, 14 days after the customer had visited the outlet.

Another staff member fell sick on Mar. 30, 2020, and was ordered to stay home until further notice.

All of the massage parlour's outlets were closed on Apr. 7 due to the circuit-breaker measures requiring non-essential businesses to close during the period.

Five staff tested positive for Covid-19 upon further testing, between Apr. 9 to Apr. 21.

The five are:

• A male Singaporean in his 50s
• A female Permanent Resident in his 40s
• Two male Malaysian Work Permit holder in their 40s
• One Chinese Work Permit holder in his 40s

Two of them have been discharged from local hospitals on Apr. 20 and Apr. 22 respectively, while the remaining three of them are still in hospital with mild symptoms.

There have been zero cases at the six other Natureland outlets.

 

https://mothership.sg/2020/04/covid-19-massage-parlour-natureland/

[jlone]

44 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

Good hospital w stricter checks

 

 

 

 

Who are the real heroes? Not those drawn by singapore

Those drawn by singkieland are FON (full of nonsense)! 

 

 

 

 

[jlone]

What's done cannot be undone

Everything is fated

Whatever is going to happen will happen.

[Letsrelaxpp]

Coronavirus: 931 new cases in Singapore, of which 15 are Singaporeans and PRs

[Guest Guest]

4 hours ago, Since u r here said:

Female PR in her 40s not “his”

 

"据了解，确诊男顾客是30来岁的越南籍专业准证持有者，为他进行全身按摩的女理疗师是来自中国的永久居民，至今没出现任何症状。"

 

My my my .... you went all out to get the saunas to close that time, didn't you? You went all out to bash gays for cruising last time, right? Why didn't you get these massage parlors to close? Why didn't you complain about female masseurs giving massages to male clients?The worst type of homophobia are the gay ones like you! And you still wanted the CB to end soon? And you also don't like to wear masks?? Looks to me like you are an Sg COVIDIOTS yourself! 

 

9 hours ago, Since u r here said:

 

the day before: cluster natureland spa is the spotlight

东海岸的Natureland Spa（尚养生），有六起病例。

病例都是在早前确诊，而且相信是由一名做全身按摩的顾客传染给Spa职员的。customer spread to staff and then...

Fb commented to take note of such male customers who love massages

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Letsrelaxpp said:

Coronavirus: 931 new cases in Singapore, of which 15 are Singaporeans and PRs

 

Is this 931 new cases counting those workers who were not tested with the usual test method, after the change in testing criteria in S11 dormitory? From what the video has implied, the change in criteria resulted in a lower number of dormitory workers getting tested? https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/some-foreign-worker-dormitories-changing-covid-19-diagnostic-12677140  

 

 

[leo yok loo]

All sitting ducks will kena the virus because all get lock up in the dorms....

From the numbers we know.

Now they are buliding as many isolation units as possible, from changi to tuas. 

Long way to go.

[lonelyglobe]

我们要探讨的范围应该比较广，不仅是客工住宿条件，我们也必须去考虑如何加强国家整体的医疗监测，当然还有改善客工福利。我觉得这是值得也必须做的完整检讨。

Yes,  beside living conditions, we also need to see how to reduce the dependency on migrant workers and most important, are we paying too much for our ministers? 

[leo yok loo]

MOM is the regulator. They set out the rules. My opinion is MOM need to have laws to prevent employer become 无良。If she is a commoner and she said this,  is ok. 

[leo yok loo]

5 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

我们要探讨的范围应该比较广，不仅是客工住宿条件，我们也必须去考虑如何加强国家整体的医疗监测，当然还有改善客工福利。我觉得这是值得也必须做的完整检讨。

Yes,  beside living conditions, we also need to see how to reduce the dependency on migrant workers and most important, are we paying too much for our ministers? 

For the last question: "are we paying too much....."     depend on who you ask, you might get different answer.

If u ask GCT, he tell u not enough.

[jlone]

India police punishes lockdown defaulters by placing them in an ambulance with a police officer inside pretending to be a coronavirus patient.

I think this video is one of those "Just  for laughs" video.  They look like acting.

 

[And then]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Is this 931 new cases counting those workers who were not tested with the usual test method, after the change in testing criteria in S11 dormitory? From what the video has implied, the change in criteria resulted in a lower number of dormitory workers getting tested? https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/some-foreign-worker-dormitories-changing-covid-19-diagnostic-12677140  

 

 

From my understanding of the video, only those who were tested positive are counted towards the figure.

If worker in certain dormitories is sick, they will just be assumed to be covid positive and be isolated, but will not be counted in the number.

{those assumed to be positive, their number may get added on in the future}

[Guest Guest]

100 cases around end of Feb; 1,000 cases around end of March; 13,000 cases now already and it not yet end of April. Other nations who detected their cases far later than us has flattened the curve, and yet ours is still exponential growth. 

 

Japan still has not reported their numbers for today, making Singapore's number exceeding theirs now. And our numbers may only be reflecting those officially tested to be infected. It may not even include those who were isolated due to respiratory problems but did not go for testings.  And our number of infection per million population has already surpassed that of UK and Germany, and might just surpass that of France and USA soon.    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Country, Other	Total Cases	New Cases	Total Deaths	New Deaths	Total Recovered	Active Cases	Serious, Critical	Tot Cases/ 1M pop	Deaths/ 1M pop	Total Tests	Tests/ 1M pop
World	2,940,697	+21,293	203,814	+650	841,996	1,894,887	57,652	377	26.1
USA	960,896	+245	54,265	+9	118,162	788,469	15,110	2,903	164	5,279,237	15,949
Spain	223,759		22,902		95,708	105,149	7,705	4,786	490	930,230	19,896
Italy	195,351		26,384		63,120	105,847	2,102	3,231	436	1,707,743	28,245
France	161,488		22,614		44,594	94,280	4,725	2,474	346	463,662	7,103
Germany	156,513		5,877		109,800	40,836	2,570	1,868	70	2,072,669	24,738
UK	148,377		20,319		N/A	127,714	1,559	2,186	299	640,792	9,439
Singapore	13,624	+931	12		1,002	12,610	24	2,329	2	121,774	20,815
Japan	13,231		360		1,656	11,215	287	105	3	147,454	1,166

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

S'pore donates 5,000 UTM swabs to M'sia for Covid-19 test kits
https://mothership.sg/2020/04/singap...wabs-malaysia/

Singapore sends 3,000 coronavirus test kits + 1 PCR machine to the Philippines
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...he-philippines

Singapore sends 3,000 coronavirus test kits + 2 PCR machine to Myanmar
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...its-to-myanmar

Indonesia receives 10,000 COVID-19 test kits from Singapore
https://en.antaranews.com/news/14535...from-singapore

The Temasek Foundation, Singapore offered Covid-19 test kits for 10,000 tests to Bhutan. 
https://kuenselonline.com/singapore-donates-test-kits/

NEW DELHI: Singapore, a key pillar in Delhi’s Indo-Pacific vision, has donated 30,000 testing kits and will supply more
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/singapore-south-korea-key-suppliers-of-covid-19-gear/articleshow/74922481.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Singapore donates 40,000 more COVID-19 test kits to the Philippines
https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...ts/ar-BB11PzCX

[Guest Loop Hole]

Quote

 

Seah Kian Peng
7 hrs · 
This morning, I walked alone through the various kopitiams as well the wet market, playing the role of a safe distancing ambassador (SDA). Talked to some residents and merchants as well as group of SDAs when they were having their lunch break. A few observations :
1. Compliance is high;
2. Merchants and residents all understood importance of wearing a face mask and the need for safe distancing and we are all getting used to it;
3. Temperature screening and crowd control measures were in place at popular places like supermarkets and wet market;
4. For those who sometimes forget, a gentle reminder to keep to safe distancing is all that is required; and finally on a lighter note
5. Even with a mask on, most people seem to be able to recognize me.
Take care and stay safe 🙂 #braddellheights #socialdistancing #SGUnited #walkabout #seahkp #checkingtheground

 

Suka suka self appoint as SDA can do walkabout liao. 

[jlone]

Who is he, seah kian peng? 

[Guest Loop Hole]

10 minutes ago, jlone said:

Who is he, seah kian peng? 

 

Some MP and CEO of dunno which part of NTUC.

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

S'pore donates 5,000 UTM swabs to M'sia for Covid-19 test kits
https://mothership.sg/2020/04/singap...wabs-malaysia/

Singapore sends 3,000 coronavirus test kits + 1 PCR machine to the Philippines
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...he-philippines

Singapore sends 3,000 coronavirus test kits + 2 PCR machine to Myanmar
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regi...its-to-myanmar

Indonesia receives 10,000 COVID-19 test kits from Singapore
https://en.antaranews.com/news/14535...from-singapore

The Temasek Foundation, Singapore offered Covid-19 test kits for 10,000 tests to Bhutan. 
https://kuenselonline.com/singapore-donates-test-kits/

NEW DELHI: Singapore, a key pillar in Delhi’s Indo-Pacific vision, has donated 30,000 testing kits and will supply more
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/singapore-south-korea-key-suppliers-of-covid-19-gear/articleshow/74922481.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Singapore donates 40,000 more COVID-19 test kits to the Philippines
https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/natio...ts/ar-BB11PzCX

probably arranged back in Feb/ Mar when we are having less than 1000 cases and one of the least in SEA. Anyway need to maintain good relationship with these countries as we need their exports of food and maid. 

[lonelyglobe]

SINGAPORE - Two imported cases of returning Singaporeans are among the 931 new cases confirmed on Sunday.

This comes 16 days after they arrived in Singapore on April 10 and were placed on Stay-Home Notice - which lasts 14 days.

The emergence of these two imported cases follows a stretch of nine days when there were no imported new cases. The last imported case was identified on April 17.

 

 

[Guest Guest]

If a Singaporean who went out to eat ba ku teh during the SHN period can be jailed, why wasn't this Briton who lied about his travel history and went to the Family Courts only given a stern warning, deported, and banned from re-entering? Why was he not jailed as well?  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-british-national-deported-barred-from-re-entering-12678036

 

COVID-19: British national deported, barred from re-entering Singapore after falsely declaring travel history

[Guest Guest]

Can bargain some more? I hope they plead not guilty and get jailed even longer than the ba kuk teh guy! If a Singaporean can be jailed, why should they not be? 

 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-china-couple-obstructing-not-averse-plead-guilty-no-jail-12672850

 

China couple accused of obstructing COVID-19 containment work 'not averse' to pleading guilty: Lawyer

"The lawyer from Chung Ting Fai & Co told the court on Friday that his clients were "not averse to taking a certain course" if they can get a non-custodial sentence. This means they are not averse to pleading guilty if they do not get jail. "

[jlone]

7 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

probably arranged back in Feb/ Mar when we are having less than 1000 cases and one of the least in SEA. Anyway need to maintain good relationship with these countries as we need their exports of food and maid. 

A friend in need is a friend indeed

[Mssg-exchange]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Can bargain some more? I hope they plead not guilty and get jailed even longer than the ba kuk teh guy! If a Singaporean can be jailed, why should they not be? 

 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-china-couple-obstructing-not-averse-plead-guilty-no-jail-12672850

 

China couple accused of obstructing COVID-19 containment work 'not averse' to pleading guilty: Lawyer

"The lawyer from Chung Ting Fai & Co told the court on Friday that his clients were "not averse to taking a certain course" if they can get a non-custodial sentence. This means they are not averse to pleading guilty if they do not get jail. "

 

Agree with you. 

Where's the justice if can get away with a slap on the wrist? 

What's 10k fine to the rich? 

[jlone]

8 hours ago, Guest Loop Hole said:

 

Some MP and CEO of dunno which part of NTUC.

Maybe another wayang actor.

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

If a Singaporean who went out to eat ba ku teh during the SHN period can be jailed, why wasn't this Briton who lied about his travel history and went to the Family Courts only given a stern warning, deported, and banned from re-entering? Why was he not jailed as well?  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-british-national-deported-barred-from-re-entering-12678036

COVID-19: British national deported, barred from re-entering Singapore after falsely declaring travel history

 

 

He came in before SHN was imposed, so I think this punishment is good enough to cause him significant problems with his spouse, family and any business arrangements.

[Steve5380]

I see a reasonable way of resuming normal life in the future by countries making it mandatory everywhere in the world to wear a decent face mask in public.   Not only after a recovery from this covid-19 but forever, as a precaution against infectious diseases. Even if masks don't fully protect the ones that wear them, it protects others from them.  The cost of good masks should not be a problem.  I gave this opinion in another thread, giving the example of everyone wearing undies. Got some comical responses to that.  And... in reality not everyone wears undies...

 

So here I come up with another example:  everyone, except the salvages in the Amazon jungle, the Buddhist monks and others, wears a pair of shoes. One could not imagine people protesting for having to wear shoes.  And shoes must last for more than a few days, they must be of decent quality, and surely they cost more to fabricate than good masks.   And there is no "shortage of lasting shoes, therefore having to limit shoes for the postal workers or the police only".  There should not be a "shortage of good masks, therefore having to limit them to health care providers".  Over the months and years ahead sufficient enterprises can appear that specialize in making good face masks,  like there are thousands of shoe makers.  There will be competition, and masks will reach a reasonable, realistic cost.   If one has to budget a new pair of shoes every year  (mine last longer), why not budget for a new mask every month?  Why cannot a face mask last for a month, if one does not try to spit out without removing it?  If so, one mask each week should not bankrupt anyone either.

 

One collateral benefit of my proposal is that when everyone wears a mask in public,  older people like me don't need to display an older face,  but can be assumed to be young guys if they have still a decent body   

.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Steve5380

[singalion]

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

If a Singaporean who went out to eat ba ku teh during the SHN period can be jailed, why wasn't this Briton who lied about his travel history and went to the Family Courts only given a stern warning, deported, and banned from re-entering? Why was he not jailed as well?  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-british-national-deported-barred-from-re-entering-12678036

 

COVID-19: British national deported, barred from re-entering Singapore after falsely declaring travel history

 

Because the Ang Moh's offence counts less or is less serious than breaking the Stay Home Notice.

Look at the Bak Ku Teh guy and how many offences he committed on that day breaking the Stay Home Notice?

The Ang Moh lied on completing a form = 1 offence only.

 

No need to put wrong slogans up here as if Foreigners are treated favourably by the Singapore Courts and alluding any such miscarriage of justice.

Don't compare apples with oranges!

 

You are assuming both offences are the same. This can't be compared.

 

Quote from Straits Times  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-to-be-charged-for-spreading-fake-news-on-covid-19-circuit-breaker:

But instead of going straight home to his Woodlands flat, he met up with his 36-year-old girlfriend at 3.40pm and the pair went to a foodcourt at Terminal 3 of Changi Airport.

After eating, the woman booked a private-hire car and they went to Peninsula Plaza in North Bridge Road, where Tham visited a money changer. The couple then took another private-hire car and they arrived at his home at 6.35pm.

They left about two hours later and boarded a public bus for Kampung Admiralty Hawker Centre in Woodlands Drive 71, where he had bak kut teh. The court heard that he snapped pictures of the meal and posted them on social media.

After that, the couple went to a nearby FairPrice supermarket and Tham finally returned home at around 10pm.

 

[lonelyglobe]

54 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Lol... Really cannot agree with this article any more than ever... After the epic Covid superheroes fail, then they arranged for this live karaoke? Some people really can only sing but cannot think. 

 

https://sg.yahoo.com/style/home-singalong-criticized-empty-distraction-092651535.html

 

Some said the campaign was a deliberate attempt to distract people from the embarrassing issues that have surfaced due to the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly the dire living conditions of migrant workers. 

 

“If by singing helps to show [appreciation] to the frontline workers and the migrant workers? All they need is us doing the right things! Stay home for the frontline workers. And do the right things and correcting our wrongdoings and to provide better living condition for the migrant workers,” a Dannah Lam chimed in. “Not all this actings to show support. Government. Time for you to wake up from your LA LA land. You are paid millions of dollars to do your job for our country people and citizens of the world.”

 

“These are all unnecessary distractions from the real problem. Stop the virus from spreading and recovery fast. We want our normal lives back,” Facebook user Fir Ida

said. 

 

Instead of holding live karaoke sessions, some suggested raising the pay of those on the front line such as cleaners, medical workers, and those in public transportation. 

 

“What is the point of this gesture? Just double their pay and triple their year-end bonus,” a man named Gabriel Khoo said. 

A lot of people sing leh even our navy but then I suspect from the mv clip, those standing behind did not practise social distancing , Look like too close to be 1m apart... 

 

Don't need to distract lah,  the whole world can see how SG treated those migrant workers and how the dormitories cases explodes. 

 

There shouldn't be any bonus for them this year and to help the govt wake up,  we must help sporean wake up first. This coming election will be a good one to see if people wake up already or still sleeping. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by lonelyglobe

[jlone]

2 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

A lot of people sing leh even our navy but then I suspect from the mv clip, those standing behind did not practise social distancing , Look like too close to be 1m apart... 

 

Don't need to distract lah,  the whole world can see how SG treated those migrant workers and how the dormitories cases explodes. 

 

There shouldn't be any bonus for them this year and to help the govt wake up,  we must help sporean wake up first. This coming election will be a good one to see if people wake up already or still sleeping. 

The trouble is fools never learn and the amount they received made them feel so happy and satisfied.

[Guest Guest]

Even Bloomberg caught on the fact that we are only behind China and India in Asia now ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-26/singapore-reports-931-more-virus-cases-total-exceeds-13-600 

 

Singapore Becomes Asia’s Most Infected Nation After China, India

 

Singapore -- which has one of Asia’s smallest populations -- is emerging with the region’s highest number of coronavirus cases after the world’s two most populous countries.

 

The island-nation reported 931 new cases on Sunday, with the total number of infections exceeding 13,000, overtaking Japan. Only China and India have more cases in Asia.

[single42]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/home-singalong-criticized-empty-distraction-092651535.html

 

others have shot it down as a wishy-washy, empty gesture designed for optics instead of tangible results.

 

 

“I still don’t understand, why don’t we just raise the salaries of our healthcare workers instead of wasting time and effort on these feel-good, ineffective gestures?” a woman named Saza Faradilla wrote on the government portal’s page.

 

In a bid more likely to assuage collective guilt over failure to safeguard their most vulnerable neighbors..

 

 

Some said the campaign was a deliberate attempt to distract people from the embarrassing issues that have surfaced due to the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly the dire living conditions of migrant workers.

 

“If by singing helps to show [appreciation] to the frontline workers and the migrant workers? All they need is us doing the right things! Stay home for the frontline workers. And do the right things and correcting our wrongdoings and to provide better living condition for the migrant workers,” a Dannah Lam chimed in. “Not all this actings to show support. Government. Time for you to wake up from your LA LA land. You are paid millions of dollars to do your job for our country people and citizens of the world.”

 

 

“These are all unnecessary distractions from the real problem. Stop the virus from spreading and recovery fast. We want our normal lives back,” Facebook user Fir Ida said.

 

Instead of holding live karaoke sessions, some suggested raising the pay of those on the front line such as cleaners, medical workers, and those in public transportation.

 

“What is the point of this gesture? Just double their pay and triple their year-end bonus,” a man named Gabriel Khoo said. 

Edited April 27, 2020 by single42

[single42]

 

Listen with ur heart. no comments required.

[jlone]

48 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Even Bloomberg caught on the fact that we are only behind China and India in Asia now ... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-26/singapore-reports-931-more-virus-cases-total-exceeds-13-600 

 

Singapore Becomes Asia’s Most Infected Nation After China, India

 

Singapore -- which has one of Asia’s smallest populations -- is emerging with the region’s highest number of coronavirus cases after the world’s two most populous countries.

 

The island-nation reported 931 new cases on Sunday, with the total number of infections exceeding 13,000, overtaking Japan. Only China and India have more cases in Asia.

I think the number of cases in singkieland are comparable to the number cases in wuhan city alone or less? How terrible!

[jlone]

17 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

Does it work?? 

Even tokyo managed to contain it well, left sg! 
 

 

How long will it take for us to reach single digit???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mass testing as i prev posted too!

Thought he went into hiding after jeering the hongkies for putting on masks in the very beginning. 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, jlone said:

I think the number of cases in singkieland are comparable to the number cases in wuhan city alone or less? How terrible!

 

As of the end of Saturday, Wuhan had reported a total of 50,333 confirmed cases which is far more than our 14,000 cases.   (https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/all-covid-19-patients-in-wuhan-now-discharged)   .

 

But that being said, our 14,000 cases is almost equivalent to the rest of all China provinces combined with the exclusion of Hubei where Wuhan is. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_in_mainland_China#Statistics

 

But then again, data on China may not be trustworthy.

 

This box:  view talk edit  2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in mainland China by provinces Latest outbreak data as of 24:00 (UTC+8) 19 April
Chinese provinces	pop (mil) (2019)	Cases	Deaths	Fatality	Recov.	Hospital	Cases /1M pop	Deaths /1M pop	Ref.
China (mainland)	1,400.0500	82,747	4,632	5.60	77,084	1,031	59.1	3.31	[505]
Hubei	59.2700	68,128	4,512	6.62	63,511	105	1,149.5	76.13	[506]
Guangdong	115.2100	1,581	8	0.51	1,494	79	13.7	0.07	[506]
Henan	96.4000	1,276	22	1.72	1,254	-	13.2	0.23	[506]
Zhejiang	58.5000	1,268	1	0.08	1,249	18	21.7	0.02	[506]
Hunan	69.1838	1,019	4	0.39	1,015	-	14.7	0.06	[506]
Anhui	63.6590	991	6	0.61	984	1	15.6	0.09	[506]
Jiangxi	46.6610	937	1	0.11	936	-	20.1	0.02	[506]
Heilongjiang	37.5130	905	13	1.44	472	420	24.1	0.35	[506]
Shandong	100.7021	787	7	0.89	765	15	7.8	0.07	[506]
Jiangsu	80.7000	653	-	-	643	10	8.1	-	[506]
Shanghai	24.2814	638	7	1.10	521	110	26.3	0.29	[506]
Beijing	21.5360	593	8	1.35	514	71	27.5	0.37	[506]
Chongqing	31.2432	579	6	1.04	570	3	18.5	0.19	[506]
Sichuan	83.7500	561	3	0.53	554	4	6.7	0.04	[506]
Fujian	39.7300	355	1	0.28	339	15	8.9	0.03	[506]
Hebei	75.9197	328	6	1.83	317	5	4.3	0.08	[506]
Shaanxi	38.7621	256	3	1.17	252	1	6.6	0.08	[506]
Guangxi	49.6000	254	2	0.79	252	-	5.1	0.04	[506]
.	37.2922	197	-	-	135	62	5.3	-	[506]
Inner Mongolia	25.3960	194	1	0.52	104	89	7.6	0.04	[506]
Tianjin	15.6183	189	3	1.59	174	12	12.1	0.19	[506]
Yunnan	48.5830	184	2	1.09	178	4	3.8	0.04	[506]
Hainan	9.4472	168	6	3.57	162	-	17.8	0.64	[506]
Guizhou	36.2295	147	2	1.36	145	-	4.1	0.06	[506]
Liaoning	43.5170	146	2	1.37	143	1	3.4	0.05	[506]
Gansu	26.4743	139	2	1.44	137	-	5.3	0.08	[506]
Jilin	26.9073	104	1	0.96	97	6	3.9	0.04	[506]
Xinjiang	25.2322	76	3	3.95	73	-	3.0	0.12	[506]
Ningxia	6.9466	75	-	-	75	-	10.8	-	[506]
Qinghai	6.0782	18	-	-	18	-	3.0	-	[506]
Tibet	3.5056	1	-	-	1	-	0.3	-	[506]

[jlone]

33 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

The charge given is between $300 and $400 per worker.

You mean each worker has to pay between that amount to stay in the dorm? I thought the dorms are free stay for them.

[Guest Guest]

31 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

TCJ back then in 2015/2016 provided for quarantine facilities in case of infectious disease outbreak in dormitories.  So what happened then?  Who was responsible to ensure implementation?

 

Seems a commissioner was suppose to be appointed and come up with a list of conditions of licensing, in his reading in parliament it seems it was only cited as one example of what could be a condition of licensing, but in the act itself which was passed in parliament, there was no such wording. But since no one filled the role, it should have been rolled back to MoM?

[Guest Guest]

Very interesting! There is a disparity in information here! So is the angmoh spreading lies? Or is the government covering up the truth? Which one is it? If the angmoh was spreading lies, shouldn't he be charged, just like this Singaporean guy who was charged for spreading fake news as reported here? Or maybe some forummers here want to play judge again and say his lies are "not very serious"? 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-testing-coronavirus-migrant-workers-dormitory-12680368

COVID-19: 'Not true' Singapore has reduced testing among migrant workers, says Gan Kim Yong

SINGAPORE: It is not true that authorities have reduced the volume of COVID-19 testing for migrant workers, said Health Minister Gan Kim Yong on Monday (Apr 27).

 

“Our testing capacity for migrant workers is about 3,000 a day. We have not reduced it. Instead, we have been increasing the capacity of testing of our migrant workers. The rate of testing has not slowed,” Mr Gan said at a COVID-19 multi-ministry task force press conference.

 

He also said that every positive test is added to daily numbers.

 

Infectious diseases expert Professor Dale Fisher had said in an interview with CNA over the weekend that at some dormitories, the infection rate for COVID-19 is so high that there is no need to test anymore. Once a person has clinical respiratory illness, that person is almost certainly deemed to have COVID, so those people are put into isolation straightaway, he said.

[Guest Guest]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-testing-coronavirus-migrant-workers-dormitory-12680368 

 

And this same article also revealed something interesting: "The Health Minister said a total of 21,000 migrant workers living in dormitories have been tested since the start of the outbreak. This means that one in 15 migrant workers in dormitories have been tested."   

 

In other words, in the past month or so since the discovery of the dormitory clusters, we only have 21,000 foreign workers tested. And of all those tested, we have 12,183 workers from the dormitories found infected. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/2019-ncov/situation-report---27-apr-2020.pdf 

 

To put the numbers out more obviously, the infection is found in more than 50% of those tested in the dormitories. And guess what, there are still 14 out of 15 foreign workers untested. And we have more than 200,000 foreign workers in Singapore. 

 

To make matters worse, the Minister can still be so proud to make a statement such as “This is far higher than the testing rates seen in other countries like Korea, which is one in 90, as well as other countries like the United States, United Kingdom, or even Hong Kong,”  Shouldn't he be embarrassed to be comparing our current state with countries which are so much more superior than us in controlling the situation?? 

 

And besides, when South Korea discovered their church cluster, the South Korean health authorities immediately aimed to test more than 200,000 members of the church. And they have done 601,660 tests now. Whereas, we have done less than a quarter of theirs at only 121,774 here in Sg, and we want to make ourselves feel so proud that we have done more tests per million population than them? Don't forget, we also have one of the highest number of infected per million population in the world at 2,465 cases per million population, in comparison to their 209 cases per million population. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

The large number of 601,660 tests done in Korea coupled with the stagnant number of infections found, is sufficient reasons to believe that the South Koreans has the situation well under control.

 

Whereas for us here in Singapore, this high number of 2,465 infections per million population here in Singapore, coupled with the low 121,774 number tests done and the even lower number of people tested (21,000 alone in the dormitories), is sufficient reasons to prove that we have not done enough testing yet. So the Minister should not even compare us with the South Koreans and lay any claims that we are doing anything better than them.

 

That is a complete embarrassment to even compare our current state with theirs, and more so to imply that we are doing better in any aspects than them. 

[leo yok loo]

48 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-testing-coronavirus-migrant-workers-dormitory-12680368 

 

And this same article also revealed something interesting: "The Health Minister said a total of 21,000 migrant workers living in dormitories have been tested since the start of the outbreak. This means that one in 15 migrant workers in dormitories have been tested."   

 

In other words, in the past month or so since the discovery of the dormitory clusters, we only have 21,000 foreign workers tested. And of all those tested, we have 12,183 workers from the dormitories found infected. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/2019-ncov/situation-report---27-apr-2020.pdf 

 

To put the numbers out more obviously, the infection is found in more than 50% of those tested in the dormitories. And guess what, there are still 14 out of 15 foreign workers untested. And we have more than 200,000 foreign workers in Singapore. 

 

To make matters worse, the Minister can still be so proud to make a statement such as “This is far higher than the testing rates seen in other countries like Korea, which is one in 90, as well as other countries like the United States, United Kingdom, or even Hong Kong,”  Shouldn't he be embarrassed to be comparing our current state with countries which are so much more superior than us in controlling the situation?? 

 

And besides, when South Korea discovered their church cluster, the South Korean health authorities immediately aimed to test more than 200,000 members of the church. And they have done 601,660 tests now. Whereas, we have done less than a quarter of theirs at only 121,774 here in Sg, and we want to make ourselves feel so proud that we have done more tests per million population than them? Don't forget, we also have one of the highest number of infected per million population in the world at 2,465 cases per million population, in comparison to their 209 cases per million population. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

The large number of 601,660 tests done in Korea coupled with the stagnant number of infections found, is sufficient reasons to believe that the South Koreans has the situation well under control.

 

Whereas for us here in Singapore, this high number of 2,465 infections per million population here in Singapore, coupled with the low 121,774 number tests done and the even lower number of people tested (21,000 alone in the dormitories), is sufficient reasons to prove that we have not done enough testing yet. So the Minister should not even compare us with the South Koreans and lay any claims that we are doing anything better than them.

 

That is a complete embarrassment to even compare our current state with theirs, and more so to imply that we are doing better in any aspects than them. 

Agree. But dont forget self-praise has become their habit. Also those dorm with highest numbers of infection are award-winning dorm.

Lady minister said something like if can rewind the time...think we make a wrong choice to put them in parliament.

[Guest Guest]

Mysterious blood clots are COVID-19's latest lethal surprise

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/mysterious-blood-clots-covid-19-complication-stroke-amputation-12682560

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, leo yok loo said:

Agree. But dont forget self-praise has become their habit. Also those dorm with highest numbers of infection are award-winning dorm.

Lady minister said something like if can rewind the time...think we make a wrong choice to put them in parliament.

We cannot rewind the mistakes that are made but we definitely can avoid the same mistakes again and again. 

[Guest Guest]

Coronavirus Lingers in Air of Crowded Spaces, New Study Finds

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-27/coronavirus-lingers-in-air-of-crowded-spaces-new-study-finds?cmpid=socialflow-facebook-markets&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=asia&utm_source=facebook

[Guest Hazily Instructor]

On 4/26/2020 at 10:41 PM, Mssg-exchange said:

Agree with you. Where's the justice if can get away with a slap on the wrist? What's 10k fine to the rich? 

 

I don't understand the arrogance of the PRC husband and wife or their lawyer. They are the criminals. They do not get to dictate their punishment.

 

Why were they in Singapore and why did they lie to the authorities about their whereabouts? They need to be jailed, deported, and banned forever.

[Guest understanding]

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Very interesting! There is a disparity in information here! So is the angmoh spreading lies? Or is the government covering up the truth? Which one is it? If the angmoh was spreading lies, shouldn't he be charged, just like this Singaporean guy who was charged for spreading fake news as reported here? Or maybe some forummers here want to play judge again and say his lies are "not very serious"? 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-testing-coronavirus-migrant-workers-dormitory-12680368

COVID-19: 'Not true' Singapore has reduced testing among migrant workers, says Gan Kim Yong

SINGAPORE: It is not true that authorities have reduced the volume of COVID-19 testing for migrant workers, said Health Minister Gan Kim Yong on Monday (Apr 27).

 

“Our testing capacity for migrant workers is about 3,000 a day. We have not reduced it. Instead, we have been increasing the capacity of testing of our migrant workers. The rate of testing has not slowed,” Mr Gan said at a COVID-19 multi-ministry task force press conference.

 

He also said that every positive test is added to daily numbers.

 

Infectious diseases expert Professor Dale Fisher had said in an interview with CNA over the weekend that at some dormitories, the infection rate for COVID-19 is so high that there is no need to test anymore. Once a person has clinical respiratory illness, that person is almost certainly deemed to have COVID, so those people are put into isolation straightaway, he said.

 

The problem is your ill mental capacity to understand common things or your general English understanding, added with your self limited comprehension to only "understand" matters, as you interpret it or mean you have understood what was said: 

(Which doesn't mean, that what you seem to understand from what people utter is the truth or a fact, because personal conclusions or personal assumptions don't amount to facts. )

 

Professor Fisher said "there is no need to test any workers with respiratory illness anymore, because the infection rate is so high already at the dorms. 

What he doesn't say is: The government has reduced the testing of Covid19. 

 

Quote: Infectious diseases expert Professor Dale Fisher had said in an interview with CNA over the weekend that at some dormitories, the infection rate for COVID-19 is so high that there is no need to test anymore. Once a person has clinical respiratory illness, that person is almost certainly deemed to have COVID, so those people are put into isolation straightaway, he said. 

 

What he says is: One Foreign worker at the dorms displaying clinical respiratory illness, will be send to isolation straight away without wasting money to do a test (and wait 3 days for the result, while he is infecting another 50 workers at the dorm...). 

At no point this Professor Fisher ever said, the government has reduced the Covid 19 tests at the dormitories. 

 

Please readers understand I am not here to defend any Ministers and who is there to verify the numbers published, I just want to point out the difference? 

 

But there is a crucial difference on how things are said and your mental incapacity to understand things. Unfortunately, you have demonstrated your personal incapacity too often to us at BW.