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38 minutes ago, Love2Blow said:

Do you still dare to meet up and sex pple during this period?! 

 

No choice leh.. Sex is as important as food and drink. At most wear N95 mark and do it lor... since "experts" says it is not aerosol transmitted but by droplets. Lol

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Thankfully this worldinfo website no longer classify the Diamond Princess infected under Japan count, and it shows the numbers of infected in each country as it truly is. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ we are number 2 in the world after China now

 

Gold standard in case detection, so what?? Give me gold standard in prevention, then I say you good. Otherwise, no point praising anyone for detection. 

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14 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Thankfully this worldinfo website no longer classify the Diamond Princess infected under Japan count, and it shows the numbers of infected in each country as it truly is. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ we are number 2 in the world after China now

 

Gold standard in case detection, so what?? Give me gold standard in prevention, then I say you good. Otherwise, no point praising anyone for detection. 

You mean this one we also want and can get first? 

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We know you are only happy if Singapore is No. 1 or at least No. 2 ...

(Not sure if it counts for all rankings... 😆  )

 

I think you are a difficult bottom to handle. Nothing is never enough or sufficient. 

 

I don't think some of the neighbouring countries are throwing the same efforts as Singapore did. 

But I think it would have been appropriate to place any people coming back from China to Singapore into a quarantine center for 14 days instead of allowing them to go home. at home they will still need contact to outsiders (food delivery, family members, dispatch guys, maybe medical staff. The risk is high to open another "cluster" if one lets say family member is infected, just needs to go to work and we have a new case like DBS.  I understand the people want to go back home, but it is a matter of risk control and risk assessment...

 

ST: But under the stay-home notice, people cannot leave their homes.

Mr Wong said those on the stay-home notice will be free to decide what they want to do at home, but they are discouraged from having visitors.

Their family members are urged to take precautions, such as practising good hygiene practices and social distancing.

 

To be fair, Diamond Princess should be counted for the UK or US, the ship is registered in UK but the operator for cruises is based in Bermuda, headquartered in California. 

 

There was never any justification to count it under Japan as it only docked in Yokohama and Japan showed humanity to allow the  ship to dock. 

 

If the operator had cared for the customers on the ship, he had invested in flying them out to a "safe place" and quarantine the people instead of just letting Japan face the issues. 

Now, the virus probably spread to nearly everyone...

In my eyes this was irresponsible from the operating cruise line (Princess Cruises). I m sure they have insurance for any such outbreaks. 

 

What you can take from the operator can be seen here: 

Ocean pollution

On August 26, 2013, the crew of Caribbean Princess deliberately discharged 4,227 gallons of oil-contaminated waste off the southern coast of England.[34] The discharge involved the illegal modification of the vessel's on-board pollution control systems, and was photographed by a newly hired engineer.[35][36] When the ship subsequently berthed at Southampton, the engineer resigned his position and reported the discharge to the UK Maritime and Coastguard Agency.[37] An investigation launched by the U.S. Department of Justice Environment and Natural Resources Division (ENRD) found that the practice had been taking place on Caribbean Princess and four other Princess ships – Star Princess, Grand Princess, Coral Princess, and Golden Princess – since 2005.[38][39]

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It is "amazing" to see how Japan just let the passenger to infect one another with the virus and it is even more amazing to see how each country react although understandable. Only towards the end of the quarantine,  countries start to show interest in bringing back their own people,  bravo. Those kena the virus should come together and sue the cruise operator. 

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Guest Wild life

Can you imagine if a virus can turn someone into a blood sucking, man killing zombie?  The world will be in great Chaos.  Never undestimate such likelihood if people start hunting and eating exotic foods.

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5 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Thankfully this worldinfo website no longer classify the Diamond Princess infected under Japan count, and it shows the numbers of infected in each country as it truly is. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ we are number 2 in the world after China now

 

Gold standard in case detection, so what?? Give me gold standard in prevention, then I say you good. Otherwise, no point praising anyone for detection. 

 

4 hours ago, Love2Blow said:

You mean this one we also want and can get first? 

 

 

The post was in response to Nightwhore's post about our "Gold" standard in "detection" requoted below. The point is: so what if we got a gold standard in "detection"? It's not as if it prevented so many people in Singapore getting infected! 

 

5 hours ago, Nightingale said:

How  Fear  Distorts  Our  Thinking  about  the  Coronavirus

 https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion/fear-distorts-our-thinking-when-risk-is-involved

 

 

S'pore  is  Gold  Standard  for  Case  Detection:  Harvard  Study

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-is-gold-standard-for-case-detection-harvard-study

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

The post was in response to Nightwhore's post about our "Gold" standard in "detection" requoted below. The point is: so what if we got a gold standard in "detection"? It's not as if it prevented so many people in Singapore getting infected! 

 

 

 

U would rather sg be poor in case detection?  Case detection also helps in reducing the possibilities of affected ppl being undetected n going ard spreading d virus unknowingly.

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15 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

The post was in response to Nightwhore's post about our "Gold" standard in "detection" requoted below. The point is: so what if we got a gold standard in "detection"? It's not as if it prevented so many people in Singapore getting infected! 

 

 

 

U r lucky tat u r not in a country tat doesn’t take case detection seriously.

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Guest R u good n gold standard?

U can only do ur best in case prevention.  Sg is trying to do its best.  Ask urself, r u good n gold standard in ur own prevention?  R u here trying to help or r u just trying to spread negativity?

 

18 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

I'd rather Sg be good and Gold Standard in case PREVENTION

 

 

Everybody? Then who told us not to wear masks unless we are sick? Nobody? 

 

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1 hour ago, Since u r here said:

 

One of the infected at Grace Assembly of God is senior pastor Wilson Teo

 

http://saltandlight.sg/news/we-are-overcomers-in-christ-and-this-virus-will-not-defeat-us-senior-pastor-wilson-teo-grace-assembly-of-god/

 

Pastor Teo has faith in that his God will help him overcome the virus.  But why doesn't he think that if he has a God, it would have been much easier for it to prevent him from getting infected in the first place.  So why should all his sanctimonious emotions help?

 

There seems to be a mysterious effect of the spirit on the health of the body.  Religion may have a "placebo effect".  This is something to keep in mind.  But antibiotics are still better than religion.  And a positive attitude may be even better than a religious placebo.

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Just watched Taiwanese talkshow and they were discussing about the 12th cases in SG being a "service provider", not sure how true it s. There have been quite a number of cases classified with "source unidentify" including local and foreign worker,  so if they really visit prostitute, obviously they won't dare to say and since there is no official record of such activities or security camera, it will be difficult to track how many of them.  

 

12) 37-YEAR-OLD WOMAN FROM WUHAN

The 12th confirmed case arrived in Singapore on Jan 22 with her family and developed symptons on Jan 26.

She took a taxi to Tan Tock Seng Hospital on Jan 29, and tested positive for the virus later that day.

She stayed at Village Hotel Sentosa, Hotel 81 Princess and Home Suite View Hotel, and told authorities that she had visited Orchard Road and Geylang, and travelled by taxi.

She was discharged on Feb 12, 14 days after testing positive for the virus.

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8 hours ago, dsd said:

Wow, this sounds like getting mumps! 🤒

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54 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

 

not enough? who said so : 

 

Watson, Guardian, Unity, NTUC all said so. If they have sufficient, then where are the masks? You yourself also said you have to go buy online. Are those stockpile meant for more privileged people than us lowly peasants? So maybe us lowly peasants can know but cannot see, and then maybe we can see but cannot touch? Still want to come here and whitewash the situation? Don't have means don't have. Say until we all have like that. KNS. 

 

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It is chop + confirm + guaranteed + whatever u can think of,  we are simply shortage and in need of mask. Whatever stock that the govt can find,  have to reserve for those on the front line of the battle like medical,  transport , airport staff etc.  ....

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On 2/18/2020 at 3:13 PM, Since u r here said:

For ncovid


pls dont chat abt zombies here

Why not? Do you think it is far fetched and not based on science?

37 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Watson, Guardian, Unity, NTUC all said so. If they have sufficient, then where are the masks? You yourself also said you have to go buy online. Are those stockpile meant for more privileged people than us lowly peasants? So maybe us lowly peasants can know but cannot see, and then maybe we can see but cannot touch? Still want to come here and whitewash the situation? Don't have means don't have. Say until we all have like that. KNS. 

I agree with you 100%!!! At least in Taiwan, they get 2 masks per week. How can you not provide masks, and other medical supplies like alcohol-based hand sanitisers to the general public? No wonder our rate of infection is the highest in the world, outside of China. Washing hands alone will not protect you. 

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Clearly we didn't learn enough from SARs, then MRT cleaning was really rigorous especially on all escalator handrails, throughout this outbreak I have only seen cleaning at one MRT station once! Probably the cleaning cost eats too much into all the shareholder's profits.

 

I wonder if we will also look into locally producing or enhance production of medical grade sanitisers and disinfectant as well.

 

Not to mention as a country we need to look at upping our game when it comes to personal hygiene, how we use toilets, spitting, coughing/sneezing etiquette etc.

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WHO had became CHO and therefore it is a USELESS health organisation. Perhaps it is time to disband this useless organisation and stop wasting money and other resources which could have been better utilised.  Everytime see that chairman talk,  just feel like slapping his face and ask him to shut up. 

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1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

WHO had became CHO and therefore it is a USELESS health organisation. Perhaps it is time to disband this useless organisation and stop wasting money and other resources which could have been better utilised.  Everytime see that chairman talk,  just feel like slapping his face and ask him to shut up. 

 

Actually not only him, don't know if you watch some of the WHO live broadcasts, some countries used the precious Q&A time to sug China's cog end up no Q at all.

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Singapore is managing this wuhan virus so well!! Best in the world! Because we have many medical experts eveeywhere! Medical experts can be found all over social media and kopitiams..these people have much better knowledge than world experts in virus or even WHO!! If WHO is managed by our Singaporean experts, no more virus in the world!!

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Sporean expert team include one big mouth, instead of focusing on how to contain the spread of virus here,  he still got free time to go and comment on the behaviour of hongkies and their govt.

 

Can't talk don't need to talk. Shame for a minister to talk like that, no class at all. I think he should apologised and step down.

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On 2/18/2020 at 10:05 AM, Since u r here said:

Abt his faith and profession

 

steve i dont thk we r zooming in into his church mbrs faith in him anyway

 

No, no point in stepping into his faith and the faith of his church members.

What concerns us is OUR faith.  Faith is an emotion that is cultivated.

But when we see the "men of God" not helped by their God...  what then?

 

I am switching to another faith, another emotion.  This is the appeal of nice cruises around the world, being "treated", "pampered",  or so they say.

Already before Covid-19 appeared in the world,  I had my reservations about long cruises.

Cruise ships are ever bigger, now looking like floating apartment buildings.  Bee hives or ant nests?

Would I like to be confined in a ship with a crowd of people in the middle of an ocean?  Where is my choice?  What... if?

 

The "if" we see today.  It would not be so bad if one could jump in the water and swim away.

But jump from those heights....  it's like diving from a 10m platform. 

And swim to where?  It would be easier if we had gills and could swim underwater.

 

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18 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

It is chop + confirm + guaranteed + whatever u can think of,  we are simply shortage and in need of mask. Whatever stock that the govt can find,  have to reserve for those on the front line of the battle like medical,  transport , airport staff etc.  ....

Understood but it’s a fact for no masks being available since around 28 January 2020 in all drugstores unless some online suppliers . The drugstores said new stock arriving in 2 weeks, but still not here. 
 

I can only guess why the situation like this. 
 

I m sure the government has some last resort stock,...

 

But, the shortage cannot be just from some frenzy buying around 23 - 28 January. 
 

I understand in China they need masks more urgent. 
 

I just wonder during the haze, the drugstores had sufficient N95 masks, why no new stocks for the usual surgical mask?

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COVID-19 spreads more like flu than SARS

 

Unlike severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which causes infections deep in the lower respiratory tract that can result in pneumonia, COVID-19 appears to inhabit both the upper and lower respiratory tracts. That would make it not only capable of causing severe pneumonia, but of spreading easily like flu or the common cold.

 

The researchers said their findings add to reports that the virus can be transmitted early in the course of the infection, and suggest that controlling the virus will require an approach different from what worked with SARS, which primarily involved controlling its spread in a hospital setting. 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/coronavirus-covid-19-spreads-more-like-flu-than-sars-study-12452494?cid=FBcna

 

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6 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

But cannot be leh. If spore got not enough mask, how come we donate $6million (it says medical equipment ) to china ...to help china..

Cannot believe we i read..

That's very suspicious as they only mentioned test kit and "medical supplies" but did not mention if mask is part of the medical supplies. Understand every country have to suck up to China but there should be a limit as well. 

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4 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

That's very suspicious as they only mentioned test kit and "medical supplies" but did not mention if mask is part of the medical supplies. Understand every country have to suck up to China but there should be a limit as well. 

Yah...when comes to helping sporean, they always got limits..but nvm, i dont trust wat they say and do..

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27 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

i m totally lost and i cannot find some of the earlier comments!

and i m lost partially due to your change of topics suddenly ????????


this is not a thread on any other matters apart from Covid19 related matter:


for preference of cruise, pls discuss it on a diff thread on Mode of transport and holidays & on safety options "if" and for your "own faith" do discuss it elsewhere too


Lastly, your reply comes in only close to 24hours, some postings were removed already and then there is no need to ask me about it....it would seemed that my remaining posting appeared to be taken out of context
and i clearly reminded u do NOT discuss any other matters in this COvid19 thread - my reminder is straightforward hence there is no need to keep asking based on the thing which u r reminded not to

 

 

Oh... I am so sorry that you are totally lost!

 

But I don't hold you directly responsible.  Maybe your brain needs some vitamins, or you need to sleep more instead of posting so much in BW.   2314 posts since the short time you started to use your alternate indentity!   If your brain works fine, you will see that I am staying on the topic of Covid19.

-  Pastor Wilson Teo was infected with Covid19, and therefore I mentioned his faith that God will help him with it.

- Cruise ships play an important role in the epidemic of Covid19 since the Diamond Princess has become a breeding ground of the virus.  I commented that this episode should be a factor in evaluating the convenience of big cruise ships.

 

But don't worry, everything will become clear in your mind again :)   And your phrase constructions will start making sense again  :thumb:

 

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13 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Sporean expert team include one big mouth, instead of focusing on how to contain the spread of virus here,  he still got free time to go and comment on the behaviour of hongkies and their govt.

 

Can't talk don't need to talk. Shame for a minister to talk like that, no class at all. I think he should apologised and step down.

 

What did who say about HK? Cannot find online leh. Everything whitewashed until clean clean already. Any links? 

 

4 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

But cannot be leh. If spore got not enough mask, how come we donate $6million (it says medical equipment ) to china ...to help china..

Cannot believe we i read..

 

That one is to appease the angry gods whom some leaders are always kowtowing to. 

 

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

nt sure why many claimed cannot find masks! i dont understand why?
 

 

 

You go queue and see if you can get it or not lor. 

 

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

in case some still dont get it, and kept insisting ....(read last para)

 

 

Sometimes, you so stupid I dunno what to say. People who are already in the hospitals are already known (or most likely) to be carrying the virus already, right ?? So of course people around them have already taken the precautions.

 

But what about those guys who are still only carrying the virus within the 14 days incubation period and are walking among us? You yourself said there is the debate of the incubation period being 24 days, right? Would YOU know if the person you are talking with is carrying the virus?? What is he coughs into your face? Those first few infected Singaporeans might not be infected if they had been wearing masks.

 

To think we have a medical doctor who wants to repeat that type of propaganda of not wearing mask. It's almost as if people wants this virus to spread more widely and do more damage to us. And to think you are so stupid to believe what these people says too. I dunno what to say. No wonder Moderators can say there are simple people here on the forum who will believe everything anyone says. Sigh.... You really win liao lor

K

 

13 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Sporean expert team include one big mouth, instead of focusing on how to contain the spread of virus here,  he still got free time to go and comment on the behaviour of hongkies and their govt.

 

Can't talk don't need to talk. Shame for a minister to talk like that, no class at all. I think he should apologised and step down.

 

What did who say about HK? Cannot find online leh. Everything whitewashed until clean clean already. Any links? 

 

4 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

But cannot be leh. If spore got not enough mask, how come we donate $6million (it says medical equipment ) to china ...to help china..

Cannot believe we i read..

 

That one is to appease the angry gods whom some leaders are always kowtowing to. 

 

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

nt sure why many claimed cannot find masks! i dont understand why?
 

 

 

You go queue and see if you can get it or not lor. 

 

2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

in case some still dont get it, and kept insisting ....(read last para)

 

 

Sometimes, you so stupid I dunno what to say. People who are already in the hospitals are already known (or most likely) to be carrying the virus already, right ?? So of course people around them have already taken the precautions.

 

But what about those guys who are still only carrying the virus within the 14 days incubation period and are walking among us? You yourself said there is the debate of the incubation period being 24 days, right? Would YOU know if the person you are talking with is carrying the virus?? What is he coughs into your face? Those first few infected Singaporeans might not be infected if they had been wearing masks.

 

To think we have a medical doctor who wants to repeat that type of propaganda of not wearing mask. It's almost as if people wants this virus to spread more widely and do more damage to us. And to think you are so stupid to believe what these people says too. I dunno what to say. No wonder Moderators can say there are simple people here on the forum who will believe everything anyone says. Sigh.... You really win liao lor

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How do the doctor test if the person is positive with the covid-19? Through blood test or what? Can a person just walk-in to any hospital for a test or need to referral by GP or need to wait after 14 days then can test? 

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7 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

K

 

 

What did who say about HK? Cannot find online leh. Everything whitewashed until clean clean already. Any links? 

 

 

That one is to appease the angry gods whom some leaders are always kowtowing to. 

 

 

You go queue and see if you can get it or not lor. 

 

 

Sometimes, you so stupid I dunno what to say. People who are already in the hospitals are already known (or most likely) to be carrying the virus already, right ?? So of course people around them have already taken the precautions.

 

But what about those guys who are still only carrying the virus within the 14 days incubation period and are walking among us? You yourself said there is the debate of the incubation period being 24 days, right? Would YOU know if the person you are talking with is carrying the virus?? What is he coughs into your face? Those first few infected Singaporeans might not be infected if they had been wearing masks.

 

To think we have a medical doctor who wants to repeat that type of propaganda of not wearing mask. It's almost as if people wants this virus to spread more widely and do more damage to us. And to think you are so stupid to believe what these people says too. I dunno what to say. No wonder Moderators can say there are simple people here on the forum who will believe everything anyone says. Sigh.... You really win liao lor

K

 

 

What did who say about HK? Cannot find online leh. Everything whitewashed until clean clean already. Any links? 

 

 

That one is to appease the angry gods whom some leaders are always kowtowing to. 

 

 

You go queue and see if you can get it or not lor. 

 

 

Sometimes, you so stupid I dunno what to say. People who are already in the hospitals are already known (or most likely) to be carrying the virus already, right ?? So of course people around them have already taken the precautions.

 

But what about those guys who are still only carrying the virus within the 14 days incubation period and are walking among us? You yourself said there is the debate of the incubation period being 24 days, right? Would YOU know if the person you are talking with is carrying the virus?? What is he coughs into your face? Those first few infected Singaporeans might not be infected if they had been wearing masks.

 

To think we have a medical doctor who wants to repeat that type of propaganda of not wearing mask. It's almost as if people wants this virus to spread more widely and do more damage to us. And to think you are so stupid to believe what these people says too. I dunno what to say. No wonder Moderators can say there are simple people here on the forum who will believe everything anyone says. Sigh.... You really win liao lor

Best is you lock yourself in your house until this is over...cover all gaps, close all windows. Never open doors or meet other people..

 

Go buy 6 months worth of instant noodles and pang sai jua ok.

 

Since you believe MOH etc all propaganda...

 

Enjoy your 6 months.

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43 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that bad?!! Ours seemed ok from the intvw

Shocked to see that no1 provides info and facts abt the covid, all i saw was endless discussion for the past few hours!

qns on how to get tested were not ans too.

 

this is a threat on a virus medically, not a platform to vent emotions on any parties plssssss

No one bother to care for others.

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13 hours ago, Since u r here said:

tks niteingale for the update!!! we need speedy updates like your

 

So where are the mask now? Is there a SHORTAGE? You wanted to spread whitewashed propaganda to tell everyone that there is sufficient masks, and pointed out that Buzzing selling mask (and you didn't bring up the exorbitant prices), so where are the masks now? 

 

You were also the one to go tell people that Singaporeans started the panic buying first. Then you yourself said some Hong Kong celebrity started it online. 

 

You are really so full of fake news! 

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Wuhan woman with NO symptoms infects five relatives with coronavirus

 

A 20-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, traveled 400 miles(675 km) north to Anyang where she infected five relatives, without ever showing signs of infection, Chinese scientists reported on Friday, offering new evidence that the virus can be spread asymptomatically.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-study/wuhan-woman-with-no-symptoms-infects-five-relatives-with-coronavirus-study-idUSKBN20G00J

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59 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Sounds so familiar ha...... 

 

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

South Korea confirms huge rise in cases

 

Officials said on Saturday that 229 new cases had been confirmed since Friday, raising the total to 433.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51596665

That's the problem, when they got just 20 over cases for a long time,  then suddenly just a few days it became 400+.....so we really hope those country with zero case better continue their miracles otherwise it will be a widespread disaster.  

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4 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Wuhan woman with NO symptoms infects five relatives with coronavirus

 

A 20-year-old Chinese woman from Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, traveled 400 miles(675 km) north to Anyang where she infected five relatives, without ever showing signs of infection, Chinese scientists reported on Friday, offering new evidence that the virus can be spread asymptomatically.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-study/wuhan-woman-with-no-symptoms-infects-five-relatives-with-coronavirus-study-idUSKBN20G00J

This is scary. And it can happen to anyone on the street.

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