Guest lube Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? As long as the lube does its work of lubricating, what can be wrong with it? It is very improbable that after the day of "expiration" it becomes poisonous. In one of my cars that I run very little I have kept the engine oil for over two years. Some "experts" say that even if not used the oil should not be kept for longer than one year, because of blah...blah...blah. But the oil feels fine and the car runs great with this "expired" oil. My little experience with expired cosmetics, hair coloring, and even medicines also tell me that I should not worry too much over "expirations". It seems that many manufacturers think that they have to put some expiration date on their products. Maybe in this way they protect themselves and... sell more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeroknowledgeguy Posted February 9, 2022 Report Share Posted February 9, 2022 On 8/21/2020 at 4:27 AM, Steve5380 said: As long as the lube does its work of lubricating, what can be wrong with it? It is very improbable that after the day of "expiration" it becomes poisonous. In one of my cars that I run very little I have kept the engine oil for over two years. Some "experts" say that even if not used the oil should not be kept for longer than one year, because of blah...blah...blah. But the oil feels fine and the car runs great with this "expired" oil. My little experience with expired cosmetics, hair coloring, and even medicines also tell me that I should not worry too much over "expirations". It seems that many manufacturers think that they have to put some expiration date on their products. Maybe in this way they protect themselves and... sell more. The efficacy of the product diminishes overtime. The expiry date signifies that it lose the 100% efficacy. Up to you if you continue to use it but it might yield negative effect or result. Take it from me, I'm a Product QA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnabend Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 Actually, I have seen the statement "use within one month after opening" on most lubes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest O.L. Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/20/2020 at 11:06 PM, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? Put in refridgerator?, 😁 to preserve it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 8:34 AM, sonnabend said: Actually, I have seen the statement "use within one month after opening" on most lubes If they dont say that, the lube company have to close down ha.... As long as it dont go into the mouth, a few months past expiry should be ok i suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/20/2020 at 10:06 AM, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? On 2/9/2022 at 5:40 PM, Guest zeroknowledgeguy said: The efficacy of the product diminishes overtime. The expiry date signifies that it lose the 100% efficacy. Up to you if you continue to use it but it might yield negative effect or result. Take it from me, I'm a Product QA LOL! If you zeroknowledgeguy have a little more than zero knowledge, then after December 2020, the expiration time, Guest lube's lube will immediately transform into a dry powder, rough like sandpaper. Guest lube, can you imagine anything in your Super Slide lube that can go wrong with time except losing its "super slide"? Can you put a little between your fingers and check if it is still a lubricant with good "slide"? If so, why should you worry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InBangkok Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/21/2020 at 3:27 AM, Steve5380 said: In one of my cars that I run very little I have kept the engine oil for over two years. Some "experts" say that even if not used the oil should not be kept for longer than one year, because of blah...blah...blah. But the oil feels fine and the car runs great with this "expired" oil. My little experience with expired cosmetics, hair coloring, and even medicines also tell me that I should not worry too much over "expirations". It seems that many manufacturers think that they have to put some expiration date on their products. Maybe in this way they protect themselves and... sell more. What has engine oil, hair products and medicines got to do with lube? Nothing! Indeed, what do you know about lube? You have been single for about three years. You also told us in a previous post you don't need to use lube when you masturbate! max001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 8:56 PM, InBangkok said: What has engine oil, hair products and medicines got to do with lube? Nothing! Indeed, what do you know about lube? You have been single for about three years. You also told us in a previous post you don't need to use lube when you masturbate! Poor guy! You are so unfamiliar with the English language. "Lube" comes from lubricant. Engine oil is one of the most common lubricants we civilized people make use of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 滥贱 冰冰 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/20/2020 at 11:06 PM, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? Expired lube use it as facial moisturiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 8/20/2020 at 11:06 PM, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? Return it to them. Hopefully you took a receipt. Lube may be still used up to 3 months after expiry but 1 year? Surely not permitted to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 12:05 AM, singalion said: Return it to them. Hopefully you took a receipt. Lube may be still used up to 3 months after expiry but 1 year? Surely not permitted to sell. Please look at the date of the original post. The TS bought the lube in August 2020, and the expiry date was December that year. As such, it can legitimately be sold. However, due to the short length of time till the expiry date of the lube, the shop cut the price. I think that is totally permissible. Then he complains that he is unable to finish the 250 ml of lube within 4 months. Isn't this a question of "buyer beware"? And to check the product before buying? Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 12:25 AM, sgmaven said: Please look at the date of the original post. The TS bought the lube in August 2020, and the expiry date was December that year. As such, it can legitimately be sold. However, due to the short length of time till the expiry date of the lube, the shop cut the price. I think that is totally permissible. Then he complains that he is unable to finish the 250 ml of lube within 4 months. Isn't this a question of "buyer beware"? And to check the product before buying? yep you're totally right. my oversight. His problem if he didn't find sufficient fucking material until expiry of the lube in 5 months... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 10, 2022 Report Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 10:37 AM, singalion said: yep you're totally right. my oversight. His problem if he didn't find sufficient fucking material until expiry of the lube in 5 months... 🤣 This was not your only mistake. You also stated: On 2/10/2022 at 10:05 AM, singalion said: Lube may be still used up to 3 months after expiry but 1 year? What do you know about the chemistry of lube that tells you that it can be used 3 months after expiry but not 1 year after ??? It sounds like you give opinions because you are a compulsive opinionated. It is much better to give opinions about things YOU KNOW. And to know, look first in the literature. The Internet is a good start. Lubes for sex are estimated to have a lifetime between 1 and 3 years, depending on the type of lube. If older, the only problem that may appear is that the spermicide in them loses efficacy, and if left open to evaporation, they can become thicker. How important the spermicide is, it depends on the individual. Same with its viscosity. And these problems MAY appear, but there is no certainty. Lubes don't have an internal clock to measure time and then degrade exactly at their "expiry" date. I probably have much more experience with lubricants than you, not with sex lubes but the ones for industry. I have in my garage a can with silicone grease that I bought about 40 years ago. This grease is a general purpose lube, and it still works perfectly fine. It does what it is supposed to do. I think that I have in my kitchen an old can of vegetable seed oil that has been there for years. I did put it aside because I prefer to use olive oil, the extra-virgin one. ( I have nothing against virginity 😄). I'm sure that after the years it still has the right viscosity of an oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) On 2/11/2022 at 7:02 AM, Steve5380 said: This was not your only mistake. You also stated: What do you know about the chemistry of lube that tells you that it can be used 3 months after expiry but not 1 year after ??? It sounds like you give opinions because you are a compulsive opinionated. It is much better to give opinions about things YOU KNOW. And to know, look first in the literature. The Internet is a good start. Lubes for sex are estimated to have a lifetime between 1 and 3 years, depending on the type of lube. If older, the only problem that may appear is that the spermicide in them loses efficacy, and if left open to evaporation, they can become thicker. How important the spermicide is, it depends on the individual. Same with its viscosity. And these problems MAY appear, but there is no certainty. Lubes don't have an internal clock to measure time and then degrade exactly at their "expiry" date. I probably have much more experience with lubricants than you, not with sex lubes but the ones for industry. I have in my garage a can with silicone grease that I bought about 40 years ago. This grease is a general purpose lube, and it still works perfectly fine. It does what it is supposed to do. I think that I have in my kitchen an old can of vegetable seed oil that has been there for years. I did put it aside because I prefer to use olive oil, the extra-virgin one. ( I have nothing against virginity 😄). I'm sure that after the years it still has the right viscosity of an oil. At least I admit to making mistakes compared to others who put up every defence to deny that they committed a mistake. While I didn't do any mistake here at all. What you forgot is that manufacturers of lube place an expiry date on their product, so that "lifespan" up to 3 years should be covered by the expiry date. My response was regarding the period after the expiry date. Also, considering no unwanted pregancy/ virus infections due to expired lube causing breakage of a condom when any virgin isn't lubed properly or with functional lube... I was taking consideration to the heat and climate of South East Asia. From my personal experience lube in SEA easily becomes "thinner" and not thicker in consistence after a certain lapse of time. I admit this is solely my personal experience and I won't make some youtube expert discussions on such topic. But your bulk of 40y old grease in your garage really made me start fantasising wild again for what purposes you use that silicone grease for... Edited February 11, 2022 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InBangkok Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 10:24 AM, Steve5380 said: Poor guy! You are so unfamiliar with the English language. "Lube" comes from lubricant. Engine oil is one of the most common lubricants we civilized people make use of. Why do you ALWYS resort to dictionary definitions to in your childish attempts to trash other posters? Your command of the English language is not all that good. Besides, engine oil has nothing to do with lube for sexual purposes. And you have not explained why you respond to this thread about out of date lube for sexual purposes - which you have admitted you do not use!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 8:52 PM, InBangkok said: Why do you ALWYS resort to dictionary definitions to in your childish attempts to trash other posters? Your command of the English language is not all that good. Besides, engine oil has nothing to do with lube for sexual purposes. And you have not explained why you respond to this thread about out of date lube for sexual purposes - which you have admitted you do not use!! WHAT??? Engine oil has nothing in common with lube for sexual purposes? You don't know what you are talking about. Both these lubricants, ANY lubricants, have one thing in common: it is VISCOSITY. Without viscosity, no fluid or semi fluid is a lubricant that can keep two surfaces who slide on each other separated. Only solid lubricants like graphite and Teflon powder don't need viscosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 11:46 AM, Steve5380 said: WHAT??? Engine oil has nothing in common with lube for sexual purposes? You don't know what you are talking about. Both these lubricants, ANY lubricants, have one thing in common: it is VISCOSITY. Without viscosity, no fluid or semi fluid is a lubricant that can keep two surfaces who slide on each other separated. Only solid lubricants like graphite and Teflon powder don't need viscosity. Defence just for the purpose to defend... again the same trait. Surely you know that you can't compare sex lubes with car or engine lubricants. Expiry dates should also be totally different. It is childish to resort to finding the generic terms just to make a point or futile attempt to justify your point. If you talk bananas nobody would come into a discussion and refer to plants (only you probably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 7:02 AM, Steve5380 said: It sounds like you give opinions because you are a compulsive opinionated. For the record: As a non English native I think above sentence was grammar wise not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 10:37 PM, singalion said: Defence just for the purpose to defend... again the same trait. Surely you know that you can't compare sex lubes with car or engine lubricants. Expiry dates should also be totally different. It is childish to resort to finding the generic terms just to make a point or futile attempt to justify your point. If you talk bananas nobody would come into a discussion and refer to plants (only you probably). You are acting childish trying to perpetuate a senseless discussion. The TS was concerned about lube he bought that was close to its three year 'expire'. And he asked if it is OK to use slightly expired lube. The correct answer is that expiration dates are seldom exact and cast in stone. In the case of lube, there is no internal clock that runs out. It is perfectly reasonable to accept an extension of the usable time by a 10%, if not more. The 10% of three years, 36 months, is nearly 4 months. He had still 3 months to reach the 'expiry', which together with 4 months more gave him a time to use it of 7 months, more than half a year. And he could reasonably have used for one year after purchase. If you don't have any serious knowledge that contradicts the above, please stop perpetuating a senseless discussion for the sake of contradicting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) On 2/11/2022 at 1:09 PM, Steve5380 said: You are acting childish trying to perpetuate a senseless discussion. The TS was concerned about lube he bought that was close to its three year 'expire'. And he asked if it is OK to use slightly expired lube. The correct answer is that expiration dates are seldom exact and cast in stone. In the case of lube, there is no internal clock that runs out. It is perfectly reasonable to accept an extension of the usable time by a 10%, if not more. The 10% of three years, 36 months, is nearly 4 months. He had still 3 months to reach the 'expiry', which together with 4 months more gave him a time to use it of 7 months, more than half a year. And he could reasonably have used for one year after purchase. If you don't have any serious knowledge that contradicts the above, please stop perpetuating a senseless discussion for the sake of contradicting, and again a defence. You call the discussion senseless than it is a fact that is senseless? My initial post was placed as a question. Maybe you oversaw. You were the one who made a mountain out of a molehill, not me. Then you start trashing others who oppose your view and then talk of childish after you defend and defend senselessly on top of your reaction. On 2/11/2022 at 12:05 AM, singalion said: Return it to them. Hopefully you took a receipt. Lube may be still used up to 3 months after expiry but 1 year? Surely not permitted to sell. Last time I thought it is an attack of a troll calling you quarrelsome, the more I reflect on this, the assumption from that troll might be more correct than I believed at these times. Edited February 11, 2022 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 For the record, there are 3 main groups of lubes on the market: 1. Water-based: Usually water with a dissolved polyacrylate to give the viscosity. Most also have other additives in the mix, and the additives can be food for bacteria which can in turn break down the polyacrylate. 2. Oil-based Mixture of organic oils. This can go rancid, depending on the degree of unsaturation, as well as what preservatives there are in the mix. 3. Silicone-based: Probably the most stable of the lot, but also the most expensive. Depending on purpose, do consider material compatibility. Steve5380 1 Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 By the way, since the TS mentioned Super Slyde, the manufacturer claims it is silicone-based, and does not contain glycerine. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 6:19 AM, sgmaven said: By the way, since the TS mentioned Super Slyde, the manufacturer claims it is silicone-based, and does not contain glycerine. Thanks for the information. At last a post that is not destructive but that positively adds to the subject. Silicone-based should be stable. This Super Slyde also has a 3 year expiration time, about the longest. It is well known that expiration dates are expected in many consumer products. And that they are conservative, for the manufacturer to avoid liabilities. So a 3 year expiration means that this is the shortest possible actual expiration time to be expected. Therefore, it is reasonable for the TS to add one more year to this period, making it 4 years instead of 3. And he might be able to use it today, 14 months after its expiration on December 2020. Silicone... This may be why the 40 year old silicone grease I have in my garage is still like new! Someone asked what I use it for: Not for sex, but for the several mechanical parts of a car that need grease. Grease is a heavier lubricant than oil, for parts that are under stress and need to stay permanently lubricated, like the bearings of the wheels, some parts of the breaks, parts of the suspension, and the constant-velocity joints in the axes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 Do bear in mind that silicone oils are a broad category of chemicals, not just a specific one. Besides, each product has its own formulation, and has additives such as stabilisers and preservatives. Sometimes, it is not the bulk product that "goes bad", but the additives, causing the entire product to be unusable. Super Slyde is not pure silicone oil either, since it does have at least a fragrance to it. Not knowing the exact contents of the formulation, I wouldn't want to speculate about how stable the overall product is. Best to follow the manufacturer's guidelines. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 To give you an example of lube gone bad, take something like J-Lube. It is a powder that you make up into lube by dissolving in water. The bulk of the powder is actually sugar. When you make a solution up, it is like making a dilute syrup, with some polyacrylates in the mix. Over time, bacteria will start growing and multiplying due to the sugar content, and eventually also start working on the polymer. Hence, it is not wise to use old mixtures of J-Lube. Keep them dry as a powder, and if made into a liquid lube, consume asap. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted February 12, 2022 Report Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 8:04 AM, sgmaven said: Do bear in mind that silicone oils are a broad category of chemicals, not just a specific one. Besides, each product has its own formulation, and has additives such as stabilisers and preservatives. Sometimes, it is not the bulk product that "goes bad", but the additives, causing the entire product to be unusable. Super Slyde is not pure silicone oil either, since it does have at least a fragrance to it. Not knowing the exact contents of the formulation, I wouldn't want to speculate about how stable the overall product is. Best to follow the manufacturer's guidelines. You are right. If the spermicides and fragrances in the 40 year old silicone grease in my garage would go bad, this is would not be relevant to its performance in my cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 8/20/2020 at 11:06 PM, Guest lube said: So Hook Club is currently having this Super Slyde lube promotion and sells it for 20% off. The biggest bottle one was out of stock so I got the 250ml one for $38. Seems like a good deal right? Except when I got home then I realized it was manufactured in 2017 and expires in December 2020. God damn it, how am I supposed to use up all 250ml in 3 months? Is it ok to use slightly expired lube? Do you guys continue using lube even after they have expired? I wrote an email for clarification to one of the bigger lube manufacturers (KY/Durex) on using lube after expiry date: Here is the response and recommendation I received from the manufacturer: --------------- Original Message --------------- From: KYcustomercare [kycustomercare@rb.com] Sent: 2/11/2022 9:32 AM To: consumerengagement@rb.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] KY D2C Support SALUTATION: FIRST NAME: LAST NAME: EMAIL: ADDRESS1: ADDRESS2: CITY: STATE: ZIP: PHONE: AGE: MESSAGE: Case - received date: 2/11/2022 Case - routing date: 2/11/2022 Case Number (RB D2C): 03154226 Subject: expiry date of lubricant Description: Dear Sir or Madam, The KY lubricant contains an expiry date. My question is regarding if KY can be used after the expiry date and how long would be the maximum recommended to use a lubricant after this expiry date? What happens after the expiry date? Yours sincerely ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref From: Support Inbox NA Health <consumerengagement@rb.com> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 at 06:16 Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] KY D2C Support [ ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref ] Dear X, Thank you so much for reaching out to us regarding K-Y®. We do not recommend using the product beyond the expiration date. Regards, Taylor T Reckitt Consumer Relations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 KY is a water-based lube containing polyacrylates as the "thickening agent". Since it is largely organic, it is open to bacterial contamination and breakdown. Super Slyde is silicone-based. Very different chemistry, and much more stable. The question is what other additives are there in the formulation that makes it safe/unsafe past the expiry date? I guess only the manufacturer can answer that. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 4:31 PM, sgmaven said: KY is a water-based lube containing polyacrylates as the "thickening agent". Since it is largely organic, it is open to bacterial contamination and breakdown. Super Slyde is silicone-based. Very different chemistry, and much more stable. The question is what other additives are there in the formulation that makes it safe/unsafe past the expiry date? I guess only the manufacturer can answer that. KY also has a range of silicone based lubes. I will just ask back again on silicone... but I guess the answer will be the same... Don't use after expiry date... Hopefully, the reply from them won't take another month. ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Here is the reply from KY/ Reckitt about silicone based lubes: to: Support Inbox NA Health <consumerengagement@rb.com> date: 7 Mar 2022, 16:45 subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] KY D2C Support [ ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref ] Dear Mr Taylor T, Just as a clarification: Does this apply also to your silicone based lubricant? These should also not be used after the expiry date? Yours sincerely, From: Support Inbox NA Health <consumerengagement@rb.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 02:27 Subject: K-Y RB0000733886 [ ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref ] RB0000733886 Dear X, Thank you for your email regarding K-Y®. We do not recommend using any product beyond the expiration date as it might not as effective or cause side effects. We appreciate your interest in our products and we hope this information is helpful. Sincerely, Kristen Consumer Adviser Edited March 19, 2022 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 8:29 PM, singalion said: Here is the reply from KY/ Reckitt about silicone based lubes: From: Support Inbox NA Health <consumerengagement@rb.com> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 at 02:27 Subject: K-Y RB0000733886 [ ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref ] RB0000733886 Dear X, Thank you for your email regarding K-Y®. We do not recommend using any product beyond the expiration date as it might not as effective or cause side effects. We appreciate your interest in our products and we hope this information is helpful. Sincerely, Kristen Consumer Adviser FYI: KY is water-based, not silicone-based. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) On 3/19/2022 at 10:09 PM, sgmaven said: FYI: KY is water-based, not silicone-based. But as I said before the KY brand under Reckitt has also silicone based lubs in its range of lubricants. Only that blue and white packaged lub is water based. I explicitly asked about silicone based lubs. and the response was to that email from 7 March... to: Support Inbox NA Health <consumerengagement@rb.com> date: 7 Mar 2022, 16:45 subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] KY D2C Support [ ref:_00D4JqSaB._5008d3S9Ov:ref ] Dear Mr Taylor T, Just as a clarification: Does this apply also to your silicone based lubricant? These should also not be used after the expiry date? Yours sincerely, On 3/7/2022 at 4:43 PM, singalion said: KY also has a range of silicone based lubes. I will just ask back again on silicone... but I guess the answer will be the same... Don't use after expiry date... Hopefully, the reply from them won't take another month. ha ha => don't use any lub (be it water based or silicone based) after expiry. Edited March 19, 2022 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgmaven Posted March 20, 2022 Report Share Posted March 20, 2022 Do you honestly expect any manufacturer to tell you that you can use their product safely after expiry? Which company in the right mind would, even if that were true? It would open up Pandora's box: 1. If the product can truly be used for much longer than the expiry date states, then the consumer watchdogs will go after the manufacturer for wrongfully shortening the shelf-life of the product. 2. If some actually uses the product past expiry, and encounters some negative reaction that perhaps requires medical attention, it may lead to a lawsuit against the company. Quote Слава Україні! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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