Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[Guest UNITY]

9 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

...... India variant two weeks after a second dose, compared with 93% effectiveness against the Kent strain."

 

 

... and yet MOH is delaying the second dose to 6 weeks (or 8 weeks for Moderna) after the first dose, and the maids can get vaccinated ahead of other Singaporeans before the end of the month.

Don't need to worry, delaying 2nd dose won't reduce its effectiveness. You will still get the same efficiency two weeks after your second dose.

Viruses do not care if you are a maids or Singaporean. Maids get priority as they mostly taking care of the elderly. Stop your nonsense please. 

[Guest Guest]

4 minutes ago, Guest UNITY said:

Don't need to worry, delaying 2nd dose won't reduce its effectiveness. You will still get the same efficiency two weeks after your second dose.

Viruses do not care if you are a maids or Singaporean. Maids get priority as they mostly taking care of the elderly. Stop your nonsense please. 

 

Yeah, you do get the same efficiency two weeks later after the second dose ....which is only happening 3 to 4 weeks later than what is recommended, now that they want to vaccinate the maids first. 

 

Did you really say maids get "priority" as they mostly taking care of elderly? You mean Singaporeans don't take care of elderly?? People like you sure have a lot of excuses to put foreigners ahead of Singaporeans.

 

Who is going to be next in line of the priority queue? Toilet cleaners ahead of those 25 years old Singaporeans? 

[LeanMature]

18 hours ago, jlone said:

Oh! but they insisted that those fully jabbed will be milder when infected n do not deed oxygen. These patients will be healed faster of course. Do you agree ? 

 

I think it depends on the period of time lapse for the second dose to take effect and render protection. 

I read a report of one person who received the second dose just 5 days before he was infected, so the vaccine was not effective against the virus yet.

[Guest Guest]

24 minutes ago, LeanMature said:

 

I think it depends on the period of time lapse for the second dose to take effect and render protection. 

I read a report of one person who received the second dose just 5 days before he was infected, so the vaccine was not effective against the virus yet.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-after-the-second-dose-of-the-covid-vaccine-are-you-immune#time-between-doses

 

 

"However, immunity doesn’t happen immediately after vaccination. In fact, it typically takes about 2 weeks for your body to build up immunity. Because of this, you can still become ill during this time frame.

 

Now that we’ve discussed how long it generally takes to have immunity, let’s take a look at the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines in the weeks after the second dose.

 

PFIZER-BIONTECH

The Pfizer-BioNTech clinical trial evaluated vaccine effectiveness 1 week after participants had gotten their second dose. Researchers found that the vaccine was 95 percent effective at preventing COVID-19 at this point.

MODERNA

The Moderna clinical trial looked at vaccine effectiveness 2 weeks after participants had received their second dose. At this point, the vaccine was found to be 94.1 percent effective at preventing COVID-19.

 

The article also talks about the effectiveness of the vaccine after just one dose. 

 

But bear in mind all these are just what the manufacturers of the vaccines says of what happens during their own trials at the beginning of the COVID situation. Real world applications may be different now, particularly in the face of so many new variants, such as the INDIAN variant. 

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMifWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRvZGF5b25saW5lLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUvMy1kYXktbW92aW5nLWF2ZXJhZ2UtbnVtYmVyLWNvdmlkLTE5LWNhc2VzLXN0YWJsZS1wYXN0LXdlZWstc2l0dWF0aW9uLW5vdC1iYWQtc29tZS1mZWFy0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

What is he talking about ?

Can  say situation is not as bad as some fear ! HUH !

Edited May 23, 2021 by jlone

[Guest Guest]

2 minutes ago, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMifWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRvZGF5b25saW5lLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUvMy1kYXktbW92aW5nLWF2ZXJhZ2UtbnVtYmVyLWNvdmlkLTE5LWNhc2VzLXN0YWJsZS1wYXN0LXdlZWstc2l0dWF0aW9uLW5vdC1iYWQtc29tZS1mZWFy0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

What is he talking about ?

 

If you can't convince, confuse. Otherwise pofma or sue.

[Guest Guest]

7 minutes ago, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMifWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRvZGF5b25saW5lLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUvMy1kYXktbW92aW5nLWF2ZXJhZ2UtbnVtYmVyLWNvdmlkLTE5LWNhc2VzLXN0YWJsZS1wYXN0LXdlZWstc2l0dWF0aW9uLW5vdC1iYWQtc29tZS1mZWFy0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

What is he talking about ?

Can  say situation is not as bad as some fear ! HUH !

 

Not unexpected of him to say such things.

 

That guy did not even want to close down the schools during the height of the COVID-19 situation scare last year using excuses saying if they "close schools, many (students) will not stay home, but may run around in the community and mingle with a lot more people, exposing themselves to more risk,” and also "closing schools will results in disruption of peoples’ lives, especially working parents with no help, and have limited childcare options". 

 

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/04/29/keeping-schools-open-amid-covid-19-was-one-of-the-toughest-decisions-in-my-life-says-minister-ong-ye-kung/

 

The entire situation is another dejavu case of 。。。。 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

21 minutes ago, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMifWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRvZGF5b25saW5lLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUvMy1kYXktbW92aW5nLWF2ZXJhZ2UtbnVtYmVyLWNvdmlkLTE5LWNhc2VzLXN0YWJsZS1wYXN0LXdlZWstc2l0dWF0aW9uLW5vdC1iYWQtc29tZS1mZWFy0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

What is he talking about ?

Can  say situation is not as bad as some fear ! HUH !

 

Queues at the Regional Screening Centre at the former Coral Primary School on May 23, 2021, where residents of Block 559 Pasir Ris Street 51 have been told to undergo a swab test following cases of Covid-19 infection in the block recently.
 

 

If you take a look at the picture in the article above, I really wonder how is getting everybody out of the house to stand in the queue going to help contain the COVID-19 virus spread, even if the queue is meant to test out who is the infected, and regardless if the they practices the 1m social distancing or not. 

 

Stupid is as stupid does. 

[leo yok loo]

1 hour ago, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMifWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnRvZGF5b25saW5lLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUvMy1kYXktbW92aW5nLWF2ZXJhZ2UtbnVtYmVyLWNvdmlkLTE5LWNhc2VzLXN0YWJsZS1wYXN0LXdlZWstc2l0dWF0aW9uLW5vdC1iYWQtc29tZS1mZWFy0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

What is he talking about ?

Can  say situation is not as bad as some fear ! HUH !

They are good in whitewashing and brainwashing. Dont be surprise, got people believe him....

[leo yok loo]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Queues at the Regional Screening Centre at the former Coral Primary School on May 23, 2021, where residents of Block 559 Pasir Ris Street 51 have been told to undergo a swab test following cases of Covid-19 infection in the block recently.
 

 

If you take a look at the picture in the article above, I really wonder how is getting everybody out of the house to stand in the queue going to help contain the COVID-19 virus spread, even if the queue is meant to test out who is the infected, and regardless if the they practices the 1m social distancing or not. 

 

Stupid is as stupid does. 

让妖魔鬼怪请进来, 搞到天下大乱。

[Kimochi]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Not unexpected of him to say such things.

 

That guy did not even want to close down the schools during the height of the COVID-19 situation scare last year using excuses saying if they "close schools, many (students) will not stay home, but may run around in the community and mingle with a lot more people, exposing themselves to more risk,” and also "closing schools will results in disruption of peoples’ lives, especially working parents with no help, and have limited childcare options". 

 

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/04/29/keeping-schools-open-amid-covid-19-was-one-of-the-toughest-decisions-in-my-life-says-minister-ong-ye-kung/

 

The entire situation is another dejavu case of 。。。。 

 

 

Because we haven't reached number 1 in most number of Indian strains? 

[Guest closure]

Westgate and Jem to close for two weeks for cleaning

Straits Times. PUBLISHED, MAY 23, 2021

3 of 7 new unlinked cases went to Westgate recently; the 2 malls will reopen on June 6

Jem and Westgate will be closed for two weeks from today to break any potential chain of transmission and to allow their premises to be cleaned thoroughly.

The two Jurong malls had earlier been identified as places visited by Covid-19 cases who were still infectious, leading the Ministry of Health (MOH) to urge visitors to the malls to be swabbed.

 

 

 

 

After nearly 10 days knowing the most probable location where people got infected, the authorities close the malls? 

 

Why only now?

 

 

[Guest Guest]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/10-covid-19-cases-identified-at-hougang-hdb-block-including-1-new-case-detected

 

This case in Hougang where different infected families living in the same stack but on different floors reminds me of the situation in HK last year, when there was suspicion of the covid virus getting spread throb the sewage pipes. 

 

 

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1564579-20201210.htm

 

 

"All residents living in a Kowloon Bay housing block facing the same direction will be moved to quarantine centres after a government advisor and University of Hong Kong microbiologist, Yuen Kwok-yung, said the Covid-19 virus might have spread through the building's sewage pipes"

 

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/officials-investigate-how-coronavirus-may-have-spread-through-sewage-pipes-in-hong-kong

 

"A 62-year-old woman who was a newly confirmed patient lives 10 floors below a resident previously discovered to be infected, according to the New York Times. The two patients were also on the same number seven vertical block of apartments, where their toilet discharge pipes were linked, CNN reported. "

 

[lonelyglobe]

On 5/24/2021 at 12:29 AM, Guest closure said:

 

After nearly 10 days knowing the most probable location where people got infected, the authorities close the malls? 

 

Why only now?

 

 

Why?  Because they are our famous one step behind team + lack of foresight, first airport case was reported on 5 May and 8 days later,  they decide to close the airport.

 

 I wonder when they open again, who will dare to go there? Those business are going to face the consequences not only from this few weeks closure but perhaps for months to come. Not to mention those restaraunts, kara-oke and other businesses that are forced to close shop and retrench staff.  

 

The damages they have done are more than the daily reported cases of infection and i dont think that goon-du know what he is talking about. 

Edited May 25, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest new theory]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/10-covid-19-cases-identified-at-hougang-hdb-block-including-1-new-case-detected

 

This case in Hougang where different infected families living in the same stack but on different floors reminds me of the situation in HK last year, when there was suspicion of the covid virus getting spread throb the sewage pipes. 

 

 

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1564579-20201210.htm

 

 

"All residents living in a Kowloon Bay housing block facing the same direction will be moved to quarantine centres after a government advisor and University of Hong Kong microbiologist, Yuen Kwok-yung, said the Covid-19 virus might have spread through the building's sewage pipes"

 

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/officials-investigate-how-coronavirus-may-have-spread-through-sewage-pipes-in-hong-kong

 

"A 62-year-old woman who was a newly confirmed patient lives 10 floors below a resident previously discovered to be infected, according to the New York Times. The two patients were also on the same number seven vertical block of apartments, where their toilet discharge pipes were linked, CNN reported. "

 

 

through or throb?

 

Shall we understand the people eat other people's faeces or drink from sewage pipes?

 

[Guest closure]

8 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Why?  Because they are our famous one step behind team + lack of foresight, first airport case was reported on 5 May and 8 days later,  they decide to close the airport.

 

This thursday if they open again,  i wonder who will dare to go there.

Those business are going to face the consequences not only for the 2 weeks closure but perhaps for month to come. Not to mention those restaraunts, kara-oke and other businesses that are forced to close shop and retrench staff.  

 

The creation of the new JEM/Westgate cluster probably just serves to divide it from the fast growing Changi airport cluster, to avoid the airport cluster to grow to 250 persons affected. Too me the creation of this new cluster seems artificial...

 

oops did I just disclose a secret...

[bigdanbeam]

4 minutes ago, Guest closure said:

 

The creation of the new JEM/Westgate cluster probably just serves to divide it from the fast growing Changi airport cluster, to avoid the airport cluster to grow to 250 persons affected. Too me the creation of this new cluster seems artificial...

 

oops did I just disclose a secret...

 

If grow to 250, whats the implication?

[Guest Guest]

56 minutes ago, Guest new theory said:

 

through or throb?

 

Shall we understand the people eat other people's faeces or drink from sewage pipes?

 

 

Well, of course a person who has no sense enough to see typo errors as they are, would imply that the Hong Kongers eat other people's faeces or drink from sewage pipes. Cotton Chan hasn't insulted the Hong Kongers enough yet? 

[singalion]

 

Is it not possible to ask from where the couple/ family  arrived on 29 April 2021?

 

The report from today doesn't seem very conclusive to me.

 

Maybe this is some diplomatic damage control after India started talking about the Singapore variant. India seems to feel unjustifiedly  accused for the spread of the virus to here (but the variant is the "Indian" one...)

 

The travel history of this family can be from anywhere.

 

On a check of arriving flights from 29 April 2021, there were 3 direct flights from Indian carriers.

You can fly via KL with Malindo or Malaysian Airlines, Emirates via Dubai, or Cathay via Hong kong or Sri Lankan via Colombo.

The article says, only SQ does not offer passenger seats but the other airlines do.

 

Instead of creating speculation on this couple/ family and the travel origin, the authorities should just release the data. Changi airport should have known their travel history.

 

More questions than answers....

 

 

 

 

 

Family that sparked Changi Airport Covid cluster unlikely to have arrived from India

Yahoo news - 24 May 2021

 

SINGAPORE — The family thought to have sparked the Changi Airport COVID-19 cluster, which now numbers more than 100 cases, is unlikely to have arrived on a flight from India.

 

This is because India has banned all international commercial services to and from Singapore since last March.

 

According to a joint statement on Sunday (23 May) from the transport, foreign affairs and manpower ministries, Singapore Airlines is only allowed to operate cargo flights to India for now.

 

Meanwhile, Vande Bharat flights, operating out of Terminal 1, are the only passenger flights between the two countries. Vande Bharat is an expatriation exercise by the Indian government to bring back stranded Indian nationals during the pandemic.

 

According to the ministries, some 25 passengers arrive from India every day, with the "vast majority" being returning Singapore citizens and permanent residents. An average of 180 passengers fly in the opposite direction each day.

These flights are operated only by Indian carriers designated by the Indian government, with the approval of Singapore.

All arriving passengers at Changi Airport are subject to an Antigen Rapid Tests and a Polymerase Chain Reaction test on arrival, the ministries said. They are escorted from disembarkation through to their dedicated transport to go to the Stay Home Notice facilities for 21 days.

 

On Friday, the Changi Airport Group said the initial transmission may have occurred through an airport worker who was helping the South Asian family, who arrived in Singapore on 29 April and were subsequently found to be infected.

 

Phylogenetic testing results for an initial batch of infected airport workers indicated that they originated from a common source, as they were found to be similar and of the India variant, or B.1617.

 

 

 

Edited May 24, 2021 by singalion

[leo yok loo]

Lets have some fun so i got a list regarding covid19:

1.   Shouldnt wear mask if not sick;

2.   Cotton is from sheep;

3.    No FW demand apology;

4.    Token's data only use for covid tracking and nothing else;

5.    Couple/family unlikely to arrive on a flight from india;

6.   .........

 

Edited May 24, 2021 by leo yok loo
Typo

[Kimochi]

5 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

Lets have some fun so i got a list regarding covid19:

1.   Shouldnt wear mask if not sick;

2.   Cotton is from sheep;

3.    No FW demand apology;

4.    Token's data only use for covid tracking and nothing else;

5.    Couple/family unlikely to arrive on a flight from india;

6.   .........

 

Lets have some fun so i got a list regarding covid19:

1.   Shouldnt wear mask if not sick;

2.   Cotton is from sheep;

3.    No FW demand apology;

4.    Token's data only use for covid tracking and nothing else;

5.    Couple/family unlikely to arrive on a flight from india;

6.   South Asia 

7. Wear your badge 

8. Umbadge 

9. Airborne 

[singalion]

More to chew on....   (are the authorities reading BW.. ha ha)

 

 

ST 24 May 2021

Changi Airport T3 Covid-19 cluster began at arrival gates and baggage claim hall; half of infected staff worked there

 

 

SINGAPORE - The Changi Airport Terminal 3 cluster began in the arrival gates and baggage claim hall, where airport staff worked in close proximity to arriving passengers, investigations by Changi Airport Group (CAG) have shown.

About half of airport workers who tested positive for Covid-19 were found spread out in the arrival zone, suggesting that areas where staff and arriving passengers were in close contact were the sites of the "primary infection", said CAG chief executive Lee Seow Hiang on Monday (May 24).

 

Those working in these areas then mingled with others working in the transit areas, departure gates and the Basement 2 foodcourt - "where the risk profile is no different than the rest of Singapore" - leading to secondary clusters of infection that eventually spread the coronavirus to more than 100 people.

 

Mr Lee noted that the other zones were "relatively clean".

 

"For instance, in the central transit area, there are about 2,000 people working there. By now, we have swabbed close to 97 per cent of them and there are zero cases, except for a specific cluster where investigations subsequently show there was a mingling of staff with those in the arrival zone," he said at a press conference.

 

A total of 43 positive Covid-19 cases have been detected among airport staff to date.

 

 

 

Of these, about half - 10 at arrival gates and 11 at the baggage claim hall - worked in the arrival zone at T3.

The secondary cluster that Mr Lee referred to, in the part of the transit area immediately bordering the arrival zone, has six cases.

 

Further from this boundary, a lone case has been detected at the departure immigration checkpoint in the transit area.

A key site of secondary spread that has been raised by Health Minister Ong Ye Kung is the Basement 2 foodcourt, where 12 of the 21 T3 arrival zone workers visited. Since then, 10 non-transit airport staff who visited the foodcourt have tested positive.

 

 

It is the first time staff have been infected in public areas in the airport , Mr Lee said.

"The public areas include offices, retail offerings, including Jewel - 8,000 people work in this zone. Similarly, close to 97 per cent of people have been swabbed. Zero positive cases, except the foodcourt.

 

"This foodcourt is subsidised for airport workers and is de facto the canteen for (those working in the arrival zone) and also serves the public. It is now quite clear that although there was a lot of attention on this, the foodcourt is not the issue.

 

"It is a secondary source of infection."

 

There are also two cases of staff who tested positive at an arrival gate in Terminal 1, which also handles flights from high-risk countries.

 

It is not known how they got the virus, but contact tracing showed that the two had also visited the T3 foodcourt. They could have been infected by arriving passengers or at T3.

The remaining three airport workers whose test results came back positive are likely to have been infected due to close contact with other airport workers outside the workplace, in their capacity as housemates or family members.

Last week, the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore and CAG had said that the initial transmission that led to the T3 cluster could have occurred through an airport worker who was assisting a family from South Asia, who had arrived in Singapore on April 29.

 

Family who likely seeded Changi Airport Covid-19 cluster did not arrive from India

Changi Airport to segregate workers into 3 risk-based zones: How it works

Asked by reporters how exactly this happened, Mr Lee said: "I think we have disclosed what we know from a CAG point of view, and I don't want to speculate on the other details that are ongoing in the investigations.

 

"We are taking a complete, comprehensive look, based on the World Health Organisation and our own health authorities' understanding of the different modes of transmission. That's more or less the most important at the moment, over and above the micro-aspects of individuals."

 

He did not pinpoint any particular country as the source of infection.

 

It was revealed on Sunday that the South Asian family did not arrive on a flight from India. Test results for the initial batch of airport workers indicate the presence of the B1617 variant, which was first detected there.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

No evidence of community spread.

No evidence of wide spread sustained community transmission.

[LeanMature]

On 5/24/2021 at 1:35 PM, Guest closure said:

 

The creation of the new JEM/Westgate cluster probably just serves to divide it from the fast growing Changi airport cluster, to avoid the airport cluster to grow to 250 persons affected. Too me the creation of this new cluster seems artificial...

 

oops did I just disclose a secret...

 

The JEM/Westgate cluster has grown to 50 yesterday.  It was suspected that a cleaner working in SHN facilities visited JEM was the ground zero.  SHN facilities are the lighting rods for propping up cases.

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest relevance? said:

And what is the relevance to the Covid situation in Singapore on above post???

 

You know how to read...? 

 

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

If the people there can throw all cautions into the wind and charter an entire flight just so that they can hold wedding parties in mid-air, what else can they do in other places? 

 

[Kimochi]

8 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

If the people there can throw all cautions into the wind and charter an entire flight just so that they can hold wedding parties in mid-air, what else can they do in other places? 

 

 

 

 

 

https://in.news.yahoo.com/indian-couple-charter-entire-flight-143339958.html 

 

"The couple from southern India’s Madurai city in Tamil Nadu booked the entire SpiceJet flight for a few hours to hold their extravagant wedding in the presence of family and friends even as lockdown continued in their state and across most of India.

 

The couple reportedly exchanged wedding vows in the presence of about 170 guests and family members at the moment the plane was over the Meenakshi Amman temple, one of Tamil Nadu’s best-known.

 

The visuals of the ceremony showed the plane packed with guests as the couple, clad in wedding attire, exchanged garlands and a camera operator filmed the moment.

 

But the wedding comes in the middle of a raging global pandemic and at a time when most states are under lockdown restrictions to break the chain of transmission in the second wave. India’s overall death toll from Covid-19 has crossed 300,000, and though the daily infection rate is slowing down it is still adding hundreds of thousands of new cases in each 24-hour period."

 

 

Spreading disease in the air ~ 

[Guest Parachutist]

1 hour ago, Kimochi said:

Spreading disease in the air ~ 

 

Hence airborne.

[Guest Guest]

Singaporean scientists have developed a new 'breathalyzer' test for COVID that can detect the virus within one minute (msn.com) 

 

 

Errrrrr ..... Singapore invention or no Singapore invention, anyone wanna breathe into this? Let's hope you were the first in line and the receptacle is clean. 

 

[G_M]

HELLO PEOPLE!

 

COVID Situations in SINGAPORE!! 

 

Dey! SINGAPORE LAH!! SINGAPORE!! 

 

GET BACK TO TOPIC!

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEJ3dNDhrPwqbnUswJGvDXl0qGQgEKhAIACoHCAownbiFCzDcwoIDMJmihgY?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[West93]

I just want this whole pandemic mess in Singapore to be over and done with. 

 

Sick and tired of reactionary and heavy handed public health measures screwing over all our social and personal lives. Many of us are utterly stressed out and fed up with how repetitive and insular our lives are like now in Singapore. Six million people trapped in an island city smaller than greater London. And without the mental and physical release of travelling out of Singapore to get away from things over weekend staycations. 

 

At this point I no longer trust the government in any public health thing they do. No matter what the end result is still going to be herd immunity either through natural selection means or vaccinations that will end this pandemic. And yet people are still so obsessed with infection counts. So much of our freedoms and liberties and vibrancy in our society has been utterly destroyed and revoked by our leaders. How much will be returned to us at the end of it all? 

 

This whole pandemic now isn't about public health. It's about power control pure and simple. 

 

I'm just jaded, cynical and tired of this shit. 

[jlone]

WHAT young Party punks can deliver?

Damaging in terms of Peoples’ health, social security, employment, livelihoods, happiness, living conditions, identity, wage suppression etc… you name it.

DESTRUCTION, DISASTER if you would to ask me.

It’s Over, time for change. Time to Unite Together for a better tomorrow for our Children.

[leo yok loo]

We are in pandemic for 1 year plus and we still got sg citizens in some south asian country??? Thought anyone in the right mind would have go home (if they really treat here as their home)  earlier.

Dont know what citizen...sigh.

 

[lonelyglobe]

8 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

We are in pandemic for 1 year plus and we still got sg citizens in some south asian country??? Thought anyone in the right mind would have go home (if they really treat here as their home)  earlier.

Dont know what citizen...sigh.

 

Probably visiting relatives? A lot of relatives that is more important than preventing covid during this pandemic.

 

Like i mention before, SG fate is tie up with south asian countries and as long as they cant control,  we will not be able to too. Also, malaysia is on fire now, will their fire spread to SG remian to be seen. 

 

[leo yok loo]

34 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Probably visiting relatives? A lot of relatives that is more important than preventing covid during this pandemic.

 

Like i mention before, SG fate is tie up with south asian countries and as long as they cant control,  we will not be able to too. Also, malaysia is on fire now, will their fire spread to SG remian to be seen. 

 

Now i understand.

天啊, why are we getting ourselves into this....

[Zealouslogue]

8 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

Now i understand.

天啊, why are we getting ourselves into this....

Indeed 😭

[mate69]

Actually I suspect a lot of people may want this whole thing to prolong so that they don't have 

to go back to office (for those who still have jobs) and can continue to wfh. Bizarre I know but...

well. not totally inconceivable if u know what i mean

[lonelyglobe]

5 hours ago, mate69 said:

Actually I suspect a lot of people may want this whole thing to prolong so that they don't have 

to go back to office (for those who still have jobs) and can continue to wfh. Bizarre I know but...

well. not totally inconceivable if u know what i mean

Single yes but for those with kids, they probably want the kids to go school everyday ha.... 

 

The more this covid drama drag on,  the more weaknesses of our govt will be revealed. 

[Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator]

Some of these posts come across as extremely selfish and shortsighted. The entire world is dealing with the pandemic, and almost every government has made mistakes, except possibly New Zealand. Regular people are just as much to blame as the politicians because they are not educating themselves and following the steps needed to eradicate the coronavirus.

 

Why is the disease still spreading a year later? People know by now how to stop the coronavirus. Wear masks, stay clean, don't congregate in public places, get in and get out as quickly as possible when running errands, don't travel overseas (except for high level politicians, citizens returning home, and athletes participating in bubbles for events like the Olympics).

 

If the entire world adopts those simple policies for a year, the coronavirus would be eradicated, and life can return to normal. But nobody wants to sacrifice. Too many people only want to do exactly what they want to do at this very moment. As a result, the new status quo drags on and on and on, and I honestly worry this may be the beginning of the end of humanity.

[Guest Guest]

9 minutes ago, Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator said:

Some of these posts come across as extremely selfish and shortsighted. The entire world is dealing with the pandemic, and almost every government has made mistakes, except possibly New Zealand. Regular people are just as much to blame as the politicians because they are not educating themselves and following the steps needed to eradicate the coronavirus.

 

Why is the disease still spreading a year later? People know by now how to stop the coronavirus. Wear masks, stay clean, don't congregate in public places, get in and get out as quickly as possible when running errands, don't travel overseas (except for high level politicians, citizens returning home, and athletes participating in bubbles for events like the Olympics).

 

If the entire world adopts those simple policies for a year, the coronavirus would be eradicated, and life can return to normal. But nobody wants to sacrifice. Too many people only want to do exactly what they want to do at this very moment. As a result, the new status quo drags on and on and on, and I honestly worry this may be the beginning of the end of humanity.

 

You blaming the citizens now?? Right ... so convenient. Who let the Indians into the country with the Indian variant in the first place? If not for that, do you think the situation in Singapore would have escalated to this level now? 

[Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator]

Just now, Guest Guest said:

You blaming the citizens now?? Right ... so convenient. Who let the Indians into the country with the Indian variant in the first place? If not for that, do you think the situation in Singapore would have escalated to this level now? 

 

I clearly wrote that every government has made mistakes. Singapore is not exempted from that sentence. But citizens also need to educate ourselves and let the politicians know what we want. We should not be a herd of sheep waiting for a big strong leader to do everything for us. That is what the Republicans have become in America. No thanks.

 

The blueprint to defeating the coronavirus is right there for the entire world to see in New Zealand. Close the damn borders for a year with the exception of essential shipping and the three travel examples that I listed above. Big business refuses to accept any financial sacrifices, and that attitude trickles down to the politicians, as well as the citizens.

 

Right now, countries are trying to "reopen" and live a fake "normality" that keeps getting interrupted by coronavirus surges, which clearly shows that what they want to do is not working and will not work. It is ridiculous. Close all of the borders all over the world, vaccinate people, and sacrifice a few quarters of business profits in order to save humanity.

[leo yok loo]

11 hours ago, mate69 said:

Actually I suspect a lot of people may want this whole thing to prolong so that they don't have 

to go back to office (for those who still have jobs) and can continue to wfh. Bizarre I know but...

well. not totally inconceivable if u know what i mean

It depends on family structure and many factors. Some like it, some dont. But for sure the electric bill will go up and hard to claim from your boss.

[LeanMature]

11 hours ago, mate69 said:

Actually I suspect a lot of people may want this whole thing to prolong so that they don't have 

to go back to office (for those who still have jobs) and can continue to wfh. Bizarre I know but...

well. not totally inconceivable if u know what i mean

 

Actually, home is not a good environment.  No aircon, no interaction and higher electricity bill. Sometimes can be very noisy too if there is construction or renovation works around your block. 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator said:

I clearly wrote that every government has made mistakes. Singapore is not exempted from that sentence. But citizens also need to educate ourselves and let the politicians know what we want. We should not be a herd of sheep waiting for a big strong leader to do everything for us. That is what the Republicans have become in America. No thanks.

 

 

Still trying to blame the citizens here??? Go acquaint yourself with the situation in Singapore first, and see what happens when we let some people know what we want, you idiot! 

https://theindependent.sg/activist-gilbert-goh-investigated-for-holding-up-placard-outside-ica-building-calling-for-india-flights-to-be-banned/ 

 

You think the world still runs like what you dream in your fairy tale land, dumbass? 

[Guest Think logic]

On 5/28/2021 at 3:08 PM, leo yok loo said:

We are in pandemic for 1 year plus and we still got sg citizens in some south asian country??? Thought anyone in the right mind would have go home (if they really treat here as their home)  earlier.

Dont know what citizen...sigh.

 

Come on!

 

There are Singaporeans working abroad.

 

Such Singaporeans cannot just leave their job, some might be posted into certain countries by the HQ and one day they want to return to Singapore and continue with the same employer.

 

Then, the infections numbers were in decline in South Asian Countries but out of the sudden from Feb 2021 onward, the spike started.

 

Also note: The gov controlled the Singaporeans entering back to Singapore, not everyone was permitted to come back as the daily quota was set somewhere by the authorities...

 

 

According to the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs in 2019, the population of the Singaporean overseas stands at 340,751^[2] and according to official statistics from the Singaporean government, 217,200 of Singaporeans overseas retained their citizenship.

 

 

Malaysia	91,002[2]
Australia	64,739[2]
United Kingdom	58,432[2]
United States	39,018[2]
Indonesia	23,524[2]
China	12,799[2]
Canada	12,582[2]
Bangladesh	9,709[2]
New Zealand	5,734[2]
India	4,155[2]
Netherlands	4,126[2]
Japan	2,735[2]
Germany	2,638[2]
France	2,512[2]
Switzerland	2,349[2]
Vietnam	1,830[2]

 

 

It is said, there are 1300 Singaporeans working in Sydney alone.

 

On the visit of PM Lee, 300 Singaporeans attended the reception.

 

ST:

• Published  Mar 18, 2018, 5:00 am SGT

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong taking a wefie with Singaporean students in Sydney yesterday, at a reception for overseas Singaporeans held at the Shangri-La Hotel, in conjunction with his visit to Australia to attend the Asean-Australia Special Summit.     About 300 Singaporeans working, studying and living in Sydney attended the reception.   

 

 

[Guest wonder]

2 hours ago, Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator said:

Some of these posts come across as extremely selfish and shortsighted. The entire world is dealing with the pandemic, and almost every government has made mistakes, except possibly New Zealand. Regular people are just as much to blame as the politicians because they are not educating themselves and following the steps needed to eradicate the coronavirus.

 

Why is the disease still spreading a year later? People know by now how to stop the coronavirus. Wear masks, stay clean, don't congregate in public places, get in and get out as quickly as possible when running errands, don't travel overseas (except for high level politicians, citizens returning home, and athletes participating in bubbles for events like the Olympics).

 

If the entire world adopts those simple policies for a year, the coronavirus would be eradicated, and life can return to normal. But nobody wants to sacrifice. Too many people only want to do exactly what they want to do at this very moment. As a result, the new status quo drags on and on and on, and I honestly worry this may be the beginning of the end of humanity.

 

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

You blaming the citizens now?? Right ... so convenient. Who let the Indians into the country with the Indian variant in the first place? If not for that, do you think the situation in Singapore would have escalated to this level now? 

 

Just wonder where you saw that this Loquacious Larry mentioned citizens (Singaporeans) in his post.

This Loquacious Larry does not mention any country in his post or make any reference to Singaporeans solely.

 

Now you are taking up brawls with everyone at every thread?

 

Can you please read a post in complete length first and stop misinterpreting posts or put in content that doesn't exist in the post.

 

Are you suffering some serious personal issues at the moment?

 

What is going on with you?

 

You hit on everyone now at nearly every thread like an grumpy old bitter and failed man.

 

 

[Guest How do you know?]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

You blaming the citizens now?? Right ... so convenient. Who let the Indians into the country with the Indian variant in the first place? If not for that, do you think the situation in Singapore would have escalated to this level now? 

 

And what if the first person who brought the Indian variant to Singapore was not an Indian but  a Singaporean?

 

How can you exclude  by 100 % it was not a Singaporean or some other national (PR) who carried the Indian variant to here?

 

How can you - knowing the laws in Singapore - dare to write that the Indian variant was brought in to Singapore by Indians if nobody knows exactly who was the first person(s) to bring the virus variant to Singapore?"

 

 

[Guest Guest]

55 minutes ago, Guest How do you know? said:

 

And what if the first person who brought the Indian variant to Singapore was not an Indian but  a Singaporean?

 

How can you exclude  by 100 % it was not a Singaporean or some other national (PR) who carried the Indian variant to here?

 

How can you - knowing the laws in Singapore - dare to write that the Indian variant was brought in to Singapore by Indians if nobody knows exactly who was the first person(s) to bring the virus variant to Singapore?"

 

 

Want to use the laws to scare people huh? 

 

You dunno how to check meh? First case stated here is Case 61536:

 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-virus-variants-india-singapore-what-you-need-know-14746598

 

Then go MOH site to see who is case 61536 : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/default-document-library/annexes6d355520c03247e1ba218d4405d3a397.pdf%3Fsfvrsn%3D20071256_0&ved=2ahUKEwiR5P-axu7wAhUXb30KHVLnDDkQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw3rqq5CpXaj-xEdWZbkWfg6

 

What does it say?

Nationality :Indian. 

Status : work pass. 

 

Any more doubts? So easy also don't know? Please don't tell me you are a foreign "talent"! The only good thing you know is how to throw shade on Singaporeans, and blame Singaporeans on everything, right? 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest wonder said:

 

 

Just wonder where you saw that this Loquacious Larry mentioned citizens (Singaporeans) in his post.

This Loquacious Larry does not mention any country in his post or make any reference to Singaporeans solely.

 

Now you are taking up brawls with everyone at every thread?

 

Can you please read a post in complete length first and stop misinterpreting posts or put in content that doesn't exist in the post.

 

Are you suffering some serious personal issues at the moment?

 

What is going on with you?

 

You hit on everyone now at nearly every thread like an grumpy old bitter and failed man.

 

 

 

He didn't deny it in his response, did he? Furthermore, he even continued using the same words targeting "citizens" in his subsequent response.  So who are you to deny it for him? Are you his cheeeleader? 

[Guest guest]

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