Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[superflawless]

They are stubborn because they are motivated by one thing: monetary gains.

Their main concern is to grow as much money as possible. Even at the risk of the citizens. Don't care about pandemic.

 

This was very true at the beginning of the outbreak of the Wuhan virus when Singapore refused to closed it's borders against the mainland Chinese.

The Wuhan city was locked down on the 23 January 2020.

Prior to that. their government had actually warned their citizens "Okay, we are going to close the Wuhan borders liao hoh." 

Guess what some of their citizens do? They ran to nearby states and cities.

Those with even more money ran further away.

 

Singapore only closed it's borders the Ah Tiongs on the 31st of January 2020.

 

You look at the dates and tell me if that was fast response?

 

Now this Indian variant or what the WHO call the Delta Variant. Whatever.

This variant has been going on for a while but until today, we still have many from that part of the world coming in.

Why? Workers, their dependants. The government feel strongly that the economy is needs them.

Never mind the locals.

 

 

[appboy]

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1 hour ago, superflawless said:

They are stubborn because they are motivated by one thing: monetary gains.

Their main concern is to grow as much money as possible. Even at the risk of the citizens. Don't care about pandemic.

 

This was very true at the beginning of the outbreak of the Wuhan virus when Singapore refused to closed it's borders against the mainland Chinese.

The Wuhan city was locked down on the 23 January 2020.

Prior to that. their government had actually warned their citizens "Okay, we are going to close the Wuhan borders liao hoh." 

Guess what some of their citizens do? They ran to nearby states and cities.

Those with even more money ran further away.

 

Singapore only closed it's borders the Ah Tiongs on the 31st of January 2020.

 

You look at the dates and tell me if that was fast response?

 

Now this Indian variant or what the WHO call the Delta Variant. Whatever.

This variant has been going on for a while but until today, we still have many from that part of the world coming in.

Why? Workers, their dependants. The government feel strongly that the economy is needs them.

Never mind the locals.

 

 

 

Their salary n bonus is tied to GDP if I'm not wrong. Who is not scare of salary cut?

 

The later we close our legs and the earlier we open our legs means more inflow of money.

 

We positioned to be the last one to close borders to C because we can't offend them and we can say every other country already did not so we are just following suit.

 

I'm sure when we hit high vaccination rate, we will use this as an appeal to attract tourists.

 

Just like when you go gay sauna, you will see a guy lying in a room with the door opens and lights on implying anyone is welcome to fuck me! Best analogy I can think of. haha

 

 

  

[GachiMuchi]

Dining-in to resume from Jun 21 but in groups of two, not five

Singapore has adjusted its reopening plans following a persistent number of unlinked COVID-19 infections.

 

SINGAPORE: Dining in at F&B outlets will resume from Jun 21 in groups of up to two people instead of five as previously planned. 

The group size of two will also apply to indoor fitness activities with masks off. 

 

This was announced on Friday (Jun 18) as Singapore calibrates its COVID-19 reopening plans amid a persistent number of unlinked cases. Such infections have the potential to spark larger COVID-19 clusters such as the one around 115 Bukit Merah View Market and Food Centre, the Ministry of Health (MOH) noted.

As of Thursday, a total of 56 cases have been linked to the Bukit Merah View cluster since it was first identified on Jun 13. 

READ: Visitors to elderly residential care homes must take rapid COVID-19 tests

Following a drop in COVID-19 cases earlier this month, the Health Ministry announced on Jun 10 a two-step plan to move back to Phase 3 (Heightened Alert). Restrictions on dining-in were among the measures that were scheduled to be eased from Jun 21.

However, since the first step of the reopening, Singapore has seen a rise in infections.

“Regrettably, we are unable to proceed with our second stage of reopening in light of the latest outbreaks and big cluster that we have discovered in Bukit Merah, and now we have to adjust our plans,” said co-chair of the multi-ministerial task force Lawrence Wong at a press conference on Friday.

With the adjusted measures, groups of more than two people who are not from the same household will not be allowed to dine-in together at F&B outlets, even if they are split across multiple tables, said MOH in a separate media release. 

READ: SafeEntry Gateway check-out boxes to be rolled out at malls, other high footfall venues

Responding to a question about whether members of the same household can eat out together in groups larger than two people, Mr Wong said: “We allow people from the same household to have multiple tables, but they have to make very clear that they are from the same household, that is not new. 

"We’ve allowed that before and we will continue to do so. But if you are not from the same household, then you cannot go and do multiple bookings or have multiple tables, so the same rules that previously applied will continue to apply.”

This means that a group of six household members, for instance, will not be able to sit together as a table of six, Mr Wong stressed.

 

Wedding receptions will also not be allowed until mid-July, said MOH, adding that this is because they are higher-risk activities where guests tend to socialise more and over a longer period of time. 

 

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READ: Work-from-home to remain as default; Jobs Support Scheme extended to July

RAPID TESTING, GROUP SIZES MAY GO UP TO 5 IN MID-JULY

COVID-19 rapid testing for employees in higher-risk settings such as F&B outlets will be ramped up to give Singapore “greater assurance” to open up further, “barring unforeseen circumstances and developments in the pandemic”, said co-chair of the task force Gan Kim Yong.  

Authorities expect a regular rapid testing regime to be in place by around mid-July.

That is when group sizes for higher-risk activities may be allowed to go up to five people, Mr Gan said.

“This is a more cautious approach to minimise the risk of spikes in cases and the formation of large clusters," he added. "But we are mindful that the F&B sector will continue to need help, and we will support them as we further roll back some of the safe distancing measures next Monday."

READ: Singapore’s COVID-19 vaccination rates ‘not high enough’ to provide sufficient protection: Lawrence Wong

READ: Shorter wait for Moderna COVID-19 vaccine slots, experts urge residents not to wait to get shots

Responding to a question about the rapid testing, Mr Wong said the task force would not rule out providing the test kits at a subsidised or lower price. 

“We will make these test kits available for free to the establishments over the next three months. We want to get the processes started, and that’s why… all the agencies will be reaching out to the different establishments in these higher-risk settings … to get them started on this model of an employer-supervised self-swab system," he added.

At F&B establishments, recorded music will not be allowed, to prevent the risk of transmission from customers talking loudly, said MOH.

There should also be safe distancing of at least 1m between groups of diners, and customers must keep their masks on at all times except when eating or drinking.

Gyms and fitness studios can resume indoor activities without masks from Jun 21 - in group sizes of up to two people and in classes of up to 30 people including the instructor. 

As previously announced, there should be safe distancing of at least 2m between individuals and 3m between groups.  

 

Mask-on activities and outdoor mask-off sports or exercise activities can continue in groups of no more than five people and in classes of up to 30 people including the instructor, said the Health Ministry, adding that SportSG will release more details. 

“We do expect the number of COVID cases to go up ... especially in the weeks that follow," said Mr Gan. "This is something we are prepared for, but we must continue to stay vigilant and abide by safe management measures."

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[Guest Guest]

On 6/17/2021 at 4:16 PM, superflawless said:

Lawlan Wong and his stooges caused this...

 

 

Laulan Wong

LOL

[Guest Fatty]

On 6/17/2021 at 6:00 PM, jlone said:

The trouble is they are very stubborn n wont listen to people like u or any suggestions. So, what can sinkies do ? 

The lions doesn’t listen to the sheeps

[jlone]

8 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Lau lang ?

What a turnoff !

[Guest Job hopper]

Just hope WFH will continue for a few more months, so moi can look for a better job in the meantime until it's removed. Absolutely hate my current job due to dept controlled by a group of clowns and WFH makes it slightly more bearable.

[bigdanbeam]

9 hours ago, Guest Job hopper said:

Just hope WFH will continue for a few more months, so moi can look for a better job in the meantime until it's removed. Absolutely hate my current job due to dept controlled by a group of clowns and WFH makes it slightly more bearable.

If WFH is here  to stay, then no need to change job. The new job may have same or worse clowns 🤷‍♂️

[Zealouslogue]

45 minutes ago, bigdanbeam said:

If WFH is here  to stay, then no need to change job. The new job may have same or worse clowns 🤷‍♂️

Agree. 🤷‍♂️

[Guest 犯賤冰冰]

20 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Laulan Wong

LOL

 

LOL

[Zealouslogue]

1 hour ago, Guest 犯賤冰冰 said:

 

LOL

Imagine Lawrence Wong reading this thread. Oops... 

[jlone]

4 minutes ago, Zealouslogue said:

 

There are balls carriers n agents all around n everywhere, so not surprised at all

[kidster]

A friend of mine needs to find short accommodation to live away from the cluster for a few weeks with his family of two including himself.

 

None of his relatives is willing to help house them for the time being. 

 

Any suggestions? Not to ex cos he don't know how long the cluster will last....

 

[Guest Guest]

The moment the number of imported cases dropped a little, all prevention measures are relaxed almost immediately. Singapore just loves to play with fire and can't wait to get burnt over and over again, doesn't it? 

 

SHN cut from 21 to 14 days for travellers to Singapore from higher-risk regions (msn.com) 

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/shn-cut-from-21-to-14-days-for-travellers-to-singapore-from-higher-risk-regions/ar-AALl7Go?li=BBr8Cnr
 

SINGAPORE —Singapore will be easing its border measures from 11.59pm on Wednesday (23 June), with new travellers from higher-risk countries and regions being subjected to a 14-day Stay-Home Notice (SHNs) instead of 21 days.

 

However, these travellers will be required to test themselves regularly with antigen rapid test (ART) self-test kits on Days 3, 7 and 11 of their arrival in Singapore, while serving their SHNs.

 

This new requirement is on top of the COVID-19 polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests they have to take upon arrival and before they exit their SHNs on Day 14. This new testing requirement will be implemented for new arrivals from 11.59pm on 27 June (Sunday).

 

The COVID-19 Multi-Ministry Taskforce (MTF) said in a media release on Wednesday that the shortened SHN duration is based on updated evidence gathered over the past month.

 

"In late April, little was known about the emerging variant of concern, including its incubation period. As a precaution, we had required travellers with recent travel history to higher risk countries/regions to serve a 21-day SHN," it said.

 

"We have since reviewed the international evidence and local case data. While there is increased transmissibility with the new variants of concern, we have found no evidence – from both overseas and local data – that these variants come with longer incubation periods."

 

270 imported cases had incubation periods within 14-day window

 

MTF added that, since the introduction of the 21-day SHN on 8 May, it has had 270 imported cases among such travellers from these higher-risk countries/regions. All of them had incubation periods well within the 14-day window.

 

Additionally, travellers who had stayed in Taiwan and Israel in the 21 days prior to arrival in Singapore were previously subjected to a 14-day SHN at dedicated facilities as well as a seven-day SHN at their places of residence.

 

From 11.59pm on Wednesday, these travellers can apply to opt out of dedicated facilities and serve their 14-day SHN at their places of residence, if they fulfil these criteria:

They have not travelled to any other country or region other than Taiwan and Israel in the last consecutive 21 days prior to entry into Singapore; 

They are occupying their places of residence alone, or only with household members who are also persons serving SHN with the same travel history and duration.

 

Measures for new migrant workers, harbour craft crew

 

Meanwhile, newly arrived migrant workers from higher-risk countries and regions and are staying in dormitories, or those working in the Construction, Marine and Process (CMP) sector, will continue to go through an additional seven-day stay at the Migrant Worker Onboarding Centre (MWOC) or a dedicated facility after they are cleared from their 14-day SHNs.

 

This additional seven-day stay has been in place since early this year, and includes an additional testing regime, medical examination and Settling-In-Programme where required.

 

Also, new crew from higher risk countries or regions who are entering Singapore on a long-term permit to work aboard harbour craft operating in the Port of Singapore will undergo an additional seven-day stay and testing regime at a dedicated facility after they are cleared from their 14-day SHNs

[Guest Wuhan Virus]

On 6/20/2021 at 11:09 PM, Zealouslogue said:

Imagine Lawrence Wong reading this thread. Oops... 

He should read, if not don't know the ground.

 

Hope he loses the next GE, then get the f out.

[Zealouslogue]

13 hours ago, Guest Wuhan Virus said:

He should read, if not don't know the ground.

 

Hope he loses the next GE, then get the f out.

Okay, okay. Don't be angry

[LeanMature]

On 6/20/2021 at 8:02 PM, bigdanbeam said:

If WFH is here  to stay, then no need to change job. The new job may have same or worse clowns 🤷‍♂️

 

Covid 19 is here to stay - it has become endemic.  WFH will not be permanent, otherwise SMRT and SBS will be making a loss, so are many hawkers and retailers who depend on lunch time and dinner crowds.

[Zealouslogue]

51 minutes ago, LeanMature said:

 

Covid 19 is here to stay - it has become endemic.  WFH will not be permanent, otherwise SMRT and SBS will be making a loss, so are many hawkers and retailers who depend on lunch time and dinner crowds.

Vaccinated people can join bigger groups soon, Lawrence Wong say. 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, LeanMature said:

Covid 19 is here to stay - it has become endemic.  WFH will not be permanent, otherwise SMRT and SBS will be making a loss, so are many hawkers and retailers who depend on lunch time and dinner crowds.

 

Not only SMRT and SBS, G or linked owns many commercial buildings , if companies start giving up or reducing office spaces, rentals and reits will suffer.

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, LeanMature said:

 

Covid 19 is here to stay - it has become endemic.  WFH will not be permanent, otherwise SMRT and SBS will be making a loss, so are many hawkers and retailers who depend on lunch time and dinner crowds.

 

21 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Not only SMRT and SBS, G or linked owns many commercial buildings , if companies start giving up or reducing office spaces, rentals and reits will suffer.

 

If you think about it, so what if the SMRT and SBS and all those companies all start making losses? Did their services got better when they were profitable? Where did all those profits go other than to line the pockets of their own cronies whom they put in as the CEOs or Directors? 

 

It's too bad that the hawkers and the retailers are going to suffer. The entire economy should not have been so overtly reliant on human footflow or foreign labor in the first place. 

 

If you think about it, this is the second time we went through such an issue, with the first being the SARS in the 1980s? As a matter of fact, we are now going the second round of lockdown for this round of COVID-19.

 

Will we ever learn our lessons? Sadly, no.

 

What has been our takeaways? Sadly, nothing. 

[Guest Builder]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

If you think about it, so what if the SMRT and SBS and all those companies all start making losses? Did their services got better when they were profitable? Where did all those profits go other than to line the pockets of their own cronies whom they put in as the CEOs or Directors? 

 

It's too bad that the hawkers and the retailers are going to suffer. The entire economy should not have been so overtly reliant on human footflow or foreign labor in the first place. 

 

If you think about it, this is the second time we went through such an issue, with the first being the SARS in the 1980s? As a matter of fact, we are now going the second round of lockdown for this round of COVID-19.

 

Will we ever learn our lessons? Sadly, no.

 

What has been our takeaways? Sadly, nothing. 

 

Nah we didn't really learn much, in fact some building practices went contrary to our SARs experience cos there is a need to cut cost and maximise profits.

[bigdanbeam]

On 6/24/2021 at 6:47 PM, Guest Guest said:

If you think about it, this is the second time we went through such an issue, with the first being the SARS in the 1980s? As a matter of fact, we are now going the second round of lockdown for this round of COVID-19.

 

Sars 1980s? Lol

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, bigdanbeam said:

 

Sars 1980s? Lol

 

Ok... OK ... so it was in the 2000s. Big deal. 

The point is: The government never learn! 

[lonelyglobe]

2003...mostly in asia and only lasted for a few months.... virus too deadly and once the person die,  cant transmit anymore and cannot have so many variant. 

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEIOMN0b5xqtZbq_4yjqk4LUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAownbiFCzDcwoIDMJmihgY?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[Guest guest]

On 6/24/2021 at 5:00 PM, LeanMature said:

 

Covid 19 is here to stay - it has become endemic.  WFH will not be permanent, otherwise SMRT and SBS will be making a loss, so are many hawkers and retailers who depend on lunch time and dinner crowds.

Guess after vaccination reached a certain percentage in the population, life will resume as normal, no more default wfh and many activities will be resume. This is why govt is pushing so hard on people going for the vaccination.

[Guest guest]

19 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Today having breakfast is helluva stressful.  Myself, 1 person, makan.

3 persons watching me makan:

 

1. Social Ambassador (Red Polo) watching me maintaining 1-metre distancing in queueing.

 

2. SA Enforcer, (plainclothes) watching me taking off my mask only when eating or drinking.

 

3. NEA officer with his phone standing behind me, ready to catch me for not returning my plate and utensils.

 

VERY STRESSFUL to have a $3.50 fishball mee.

Uniquely and so proud of our Million-dollar Ministers.

If feel stress eating outside, just dabao back to eat lor.

[lonelyglobe]

5 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Guess after vaccination reached a certain percentage in the population, life will resume as normal, no more default wfh and many activities will be resume. This is why govt is pushing so hard on people going for the vaccination.

Yes,  target is 2/3 of population fully vaccinated by 9 Aug. If not cannot open door for foreign workers to come in and also need to attract back all the tourists, after spending so much money for this covid drama,  time to earn back.

[Guest guest]

7 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Yes,  target is 2/3 of population fully vaccinated by 9 Aug. If not cannot open door for foreign workers to come in and also need to attract back all the tourists, after spending so much money for this covid drama,  time to earn back.

In this case, it doesn't matter if covid cases increase or decrease if 2/3 of population fully vaccinated? Even there is covid cases formed also nevermind? So for those people who did not get vaccinated, would be unsafe if everything is fully opened again.

[lonelyglobe]

15 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

In this case, it doesn't matter if covid cases increase or decrease if 2/3 of population fully vaccinated? Even there is covid cases formed also nevermind? So for those people who did not get vaccinated, would be unsafe if everything is fully opened again.

Yes,  pandemic will become endemic and the focus will shift from number of infection to instead how many serious cases and ensure hosital  have the capacity to deal with it.

 

Thats why,  even though vaccination are not compulsory but with the opening and removing of restrictions, it is definitely good to be vaccinated.  

[Guest guest]

6 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Yes,  pandemic will become endemic and the focus will shift from number of infection to instead how many serious cases and ensure hosital  have the capacity to deal with it.

 

Thats why,  even though vaccination are not compulsory but with the opening and removing of restrictions, it is definitely good to be vaccinated.  

Right now i am more concern on the period effectiveness that vaccine can last, and if the current vaccine can protect us from the new virus strain? No point everyone keep going for the vaccine just for the sake of achieving the 2/3 of population fully vaccinated.

[LeanMature]

On 6/27/2021 at 3:15 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Yes,  pandemic will become endemic and the focus will shift from number of infection to instead how many serious cases and ensure hosital  have the capacity to deal with it.

 

Thats why,  even though vaccination are not compulsory but with the opening and removing of restrictions, it is definitely good to be vaccinated.  

 

When it becomes endemic, it will be treated just like dengue or H1N1; only the serious cases in ICU will make the headlines.  But vaccination is not a permanent protection, as yearly booster shot is still required.  

[rowers]

Positive - we are small. not as challenging as bigger countries to vaccinate 2/3 of the population within the set time frame.

Negative - we are small. easy to pass & spread virus around and turn into a big cluster in no time. 🤐

[Derren]

 

[Guest Not interested in Bullshit]

28 minutes ago, Derren said:

 

I don't have a good impression of this guy regardless which ministries he was instructed to head.  His mere existence, among his other colleagues, is to screw everyone.  He was being kicked out by voters, in 2011 election, was epic.

[Guest guest]

7 minutes ago, Guest Not interested in Bullshit said:

I don't have a good impression of this guy regardless which ministries he was instructed to head.  His mere existence, among his other colleagues, is to screw everyone.  He was being kicked out by voters, in 2011 election, was epic.

Too bad he will be here to stay for a long long time, and he is safe from being kicked out by voters again.

[Guest Not interested in Bullshit]

15 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Too bad he will be here to stay for a long long time, and he is safe from being kicked out by voters again.

He has no medical knowledge, he is ill prepared after being parachuted into the pandemic task force, quite suddently (according to his admission).  The Australia news said these "smart" people are putting Singapore at risk for the mooted New Norm.

[Guest guest]

On 7/1/2021 at 11:01 PM, Guest Not interested in Bullshit said:

He has no medical knowledge, he is ill prepared after being parachuted into the pandemic task force, quite suddently (according to his admission).  The Australia news said these "smart" people are putting Singapore at risk for the mooted New Norm.

Risk? I think these smart people so far are thinking the way they handle the pandemic is working perfectly well and effective.

[30yochinese]

TRUE STORY:
M.O.H. served me a quarantine order on 20-6-2021.

my 11 days Quarantine would be from 21-6-2021 to 1-7-2021.

 

i freaked out... anyway, i completed it & can't believe i finished 11 days of "HELL".
           

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

TRUE STORY:
M.O.H. served me a quarantine order on 20-6-2021.

my 11 days Quarantine would be from 21-6-2021 to 1-7-2021.

 

i freaked out... anyway, i completed it & can't believe i finished 11 days of "HELL".
           

 

Serve in hotel? or home?

[30yochinese]

47 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Serve in hotel? or home?

in a 4 star hotel=(

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

in a 4 star hotel=(

11 days of "HELL" as in having the feeling of being a prisoner? 

[Guest Guest]

4 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

in a 4 star hotel=(

 

4 star ok lah, but we’re u a close contact of someone infected? Have been hearing stories that quarantine is easily issued these days.

[30yochinese]

10 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

4 star ok lah, but we’re u a close contact of someone infected? Have been hearing stories that quarantine is easily issued these days.

hi, good question!
   
according to M.O.H. there are 2 definitions:
    
either CLOSE CONTACTS or CASUAL CONTACTS & i fall into the casual contact coz i was standing 1 metre from an infected-covid-patient.
     
do i feel angry?
No, coz i went to Google-Search & many people was given a Quarantine Order for being in the train, & sitting next to an infected-covid-patient... at least i had a one metre gap... so the likelihood of me catching covid is lower than people on the MRT, FYI.
                                             

[lonelyglobe]

 

1 hour ago, 30yochinese said:

hi, good question!
   
according to M.O.H. there are 2 definitions:
    
either CLOSE CONTACTS or CASUAL CONTACTS & i fall into the casual contact coz i was standing 1 metre from an infected-covid-patient.
     
do i feel angry?
No, coz i went to Google-Search & many people was given a Quarantine Order for being in the train, & sitting next to an infected-covid-patient... at least i had a one metre gap... so the likelihood of me catching covid is lower than people on the MRT, FYI.
                                             

OMG,  do u have to pay the full price for the stay? This is how they want us to co-live with covid,  absolutely nonsense,  or is it another way to support the dying hotel industry?

 

But in train station we dont tap the trace together token, they are still able to do contact tracing? 

[Guest guest]

2 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

hi, good question!
   
according to M.O.H. there are 2 definitions:
    
either CLOSE CONTACTS or CASUAL CONTACTS & i fall into the casual contact coz i was standing 1 metre from an infected-covid-patient.
     
do i feel angry?
No, coz i went to Google-Search & many people was given a Quarantine Order for being in the train, & sitting next to an infected-covid-patient... at least i had a one metre gap... so the likelihood of me catching covid is lower than people on the MRT, FYI.
                                             

Can you serve your QO at home if you stay alone?

[Guest guest]

35 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

 

OMG,  do u have to pay the full price for the stay? This is how they want us to co-live with covid,  absolutely nonsense,  or is it another way to support the dying hotel industry?

 

But in train station we dont tap the trace together token, they are still able to do contact tracing? 

Maybe he turned on the trace together app or bring his TT token out with him, so even no tap TT token/apps, they still able to do contact tracing?

[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

hi, good question!
   
according to M.O.H. there are 2 definitions:
    
either CLOSE CONTACTS or CASUAL CONTACTS & i fall into the casual contact coz i was standing 1 metre from an infected-covid-patient.
     
do i feel angry?
No, coz i went to Google-Search & many people was given a Quarantine Order for being in the train, & sitting next to an infected-covid-patient... at least i had a one metre gap... so the likelihood of me catching covid is lower than people on the MRT, FYI.
                                             

 

Thanks for the clarification, also wonder if they take into consideration the duration of that close proximity, like 5, 10, 15 or 20 minutes?

[lonelyglobe]

With the recent spike from the KTV lounge,  more people will need to be quarantine and those family man will have a difficult time explaining to their wife why they are considered as close contact. 

[Guest Try and see]

Fuck all you straight men who went to visit your Vietnamese whores in your filthy KTV lounges!

You think you are so righteous just because you are straight. Look at the mess you made now! And you dare look down on us gay guys.

 

I hope the police jailed the whole lot of you after you are discharged from hospital!