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On 10/10/2021 at 3:26 PM, LeanMature said:

 

This hit the last nail on the coffin.  Either died of Covid or died of isolation.  

So can we expect 15% less crowded? 

 

Anyway  we should be returning to pre covid days quite soon. There goes my peace and tranquility. 2020 & 2021 shld be the best years  of my life

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On 10/11/2021 at 8:44 PM, Nightingale said:

                         First  Doctor  Casualty  in  Sg

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/circuit-road-doctor-kana-covid-and-passed-away.6619337

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https://www.8world.com/singapore/covid-19-macpherson-gp-doctor-passed-away-friends-1613836

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On 10/11/2021 at 7:30 PM, bigdanbeam said:

So can we expect 15% less crowded? 

 

Anyway  we should be returning to pre covid days quite soon. There goes my peace and tranquility. 2020 & 2021 shld be the best years  of my life

Yeap,  is like one of a lifetime experience to see almost empty train and buses during the CB period. 

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Must admit that I really like the lock down period in 2020 then. 

 

Only supermarkets open, all (including essential services) closed, right?

 

Jin quiet and peaceful .... but then soon hor ... 

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I wonder if those pushing for "endemic living" just for the sake of opening up the economy and/or their own businesses is happy seeing this type of stories? 

 

84-year-old man with COVID didn’t even get to see his wife in person before passing (msn.com)

 

Singapore ― An 84-year-old man who passed away from Covid-19 did not even get to see his wife in person before he died.

 

In a Facebook post by the Happy People Helping People (HPHP) Community on Monday (Oct 11), they wrote that one of their beneficiaries, one Mr Tan had passed away. They added that he lived in Block 5 of Banda Street and had passed away because of Covid-19. Mr Tan is survived by his wife.

 

The HPHP Community wrote that both Mr and Mrs Tan were admitted to the hospital on Sept 11, and as Mr Tan’s condition deteriorated, his wife was not able to visit him in the hospital to say her final goodbyes. The post added that the Singapore General Hospital (SGH) arranged a zoom call for Mrs Tan to see her husband.

 

The HPHP Community initiative help many elderly people, and called for those who wished to donate to Mrs Tan to private message (PM) them.

 

Earlier in October, another one of their elderly beneficiaries had passed away. Mr Hong, a cardboard collector from Toa Payoh Central was struck by illness and hospitalised since August. Mrs Hong, also in her 80s was hospitalised with Mr Hong.

 

“We’ve always known them to be very close. They are always seen pushing their huge stacks of cardboard boxes to Toa Payoh Industrial Park”, the HPHP community wrote. They also called for donors to provide assistance to Mrs Hong.

 

For both pairs of the elderly, many people sent their condolences and also reached out to the HPHP Community to help. /TISG

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Living with covid is just a slogan for SG to open up. BTW, restriction from 5 to 2 pax started on 27/9 but don't seem to have any effect or maybe if not such restrictions,  number would have been more than 5000? Let's see what happen in 10 days time when the restrictions ending, very interesting.

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On 10/8/2021 at 10:01 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Dengue cannot be spread directly from person to person. However, a person infected and suffering from dengue fever can infect other mosquitoes. So quarantine mosquitoes and ask them observe social distancing?

 

 

Agreed you cannot spread dengue directly from person to person, but ideally you can “quarantine” the infected patient by keeping him in Aircon room under mosquito net to prevent the spread.
 

As for comparing the cases of dengue vs COVID, the former is under reported bcos doctors do not routinely test every febrile patients for dengue serology , but we have been mass testing COVID suspect cases , even asymptomatic ones till recently.

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On 10/14/2021 at 1:15 PM, Guest Guest care said:

So, how are they going to cope when the mtf said they are preparing for 5000 cases a day ?

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The 23-year-old had been partially vaccinated against the virus and the 34-year-old was unvaccinated.

Both had multiple underlying medical conditions, said MOH. - Straits Times

 

"Underlying" medical conditions means = high blood pressure, high cholesterol that can die from COVID? What else ah?

 

The report so general ... never want to teach or educate the public ah ...

 

Live for 23 years on this earth ji tao up lorry 🚚 by our friend COVID liao ...  

 

 

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On 10/14/2021 at 5:46 AM, Guest Guest said:

I wonder if those pushing for "endemic living" just for the sake of opening up the economy and/or their own businesses is happy seeing this type of stories? 

 

84-year-old man with COVID didn’t even get to see his wife in person before passing (msn.com)

 

Singapore ― An 84-year-old man who passed away from Covid-19 did not even get to see his wife in person before he died.

 

In a Facebook post by the Happy People Helping People (HPHP) Community on Monday (Oct 11), they wrote that one of their beneficiaries, one Mr Tan had passed away. They added that he lived in Block 5 of Banda Street and had passed away because of Covid-19. Mr Tan is survived by his wife.

 

The HPHP Community wrote that both Mr and Mrs Tan were admitted to the hospital on Sept 11, and as Mr Tan’s condition deteriorated, his wife was not able to visit him in the hospital to say her final goodbyes. The post added that the Singapore General Hospital (SGH) arranged a zoom call for Mrs Tan to see her husband.

 

The HPHP Community initiative help many elderly people, and called for those who wished to donate to Mrs Tan to private message (PM) them.

 

Earlier in October, another one of their elderly beneficiaries had passed away. Mr Hong, a cardboard collector from Toa Payoh Central was struck by illness and hospitalised since August. Mrs Hong, also in her 80s was hospitalised with Mr Hong.

 

“We’ve always known them to be very close. They are always seen pushing their huge stacks of cardboard boxes to Toa Payoh Industrial Park”, the HPHP community wrote. They also called for donors to provide assistance to Mrs Hong.

 

For both pairs of the elderly, many people sent their condolences and also reached out to the HPHP Community to help. /TISG


actually, with endemic living, he would have been able to see his wife, that’s the whole point. 

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On 10/15/2021 at 1:33 PM, Guest Wtf said:


actually, with endemic living, he would have been able to see his wife, that’s the whole point. 

 

"that’s the whole point"?? You still don't get it, do you? Without endemic living, he will most unlikely become one of those 3000 over infected cases daily, and he would be able to LIVE with his wife for longer. Seriously, are you stupid? 

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On 10/14/2021 at 2:28 PM, Guest COmmon sense said:

Agreed you cannot spread dengue directly from person to person, but ideally you can “quarantine” the infected patient by keeping him in Aircon room under mosquito net to prevent the spread.
 

As for comparing the cases of dengue vs COVID, the former is under reported bcos doctors do not routinely test every febrile patients for dengue serology , but we have been mass testing COVID suspect cases , even asymptomatic ones till recently.

 

Dengue is under-reported? Under-reported by how much? From those COVID levels of 30k cases in a month to the "under reported" dengue cases of 30k cases a year? Just how far do you intend to stretch your lie, just to justify your comparison of dengue and COVID? 

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While it maybe true all these covid victims have underlying medical condition but if not for this endemic living,  they could have last a few more years perhaps. Eventually if there is children die from covid,  will it be they have underlying medical condition?  Underlying medical condition is a very powerful "reason" to swept everything under the carpet. 

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On 10/11/2021 at 7:30 PM, bigdanbeam said:

So can we expect 15% less crowded? 

 

Anyway  we should be returning to pre covid days quite soon. There goes my peace and tranquility. 2020 & 2021 shld be the best years  of my life

 

2020 & 2021 are the worst years for people in business and for the economy of Singapore.  Yes, I agree that weekends on pre-covid days are jam packed at most entertainment outlets but you need not have to go there to find peace and tranquility. 

Don't read and response to guests' post

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On 10/17/2021 at 6:16 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

"that’s the whole point"?? You still don't get it, do you? Without endemic living, he will most unlikely become one of those 3000 over infected cases daily, and he would be able to LIVE with his wife for longer. Seriously, are you stupid? 


Wait. So you are telling me that 80 year olds didn’t die pre COVID? 

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On 10/17/2021 at 6:16 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

"that’s the whole point"?? You still don't get it, do you? Without endemic living, he will most unlikely become one of those 3000 over infected cases daily, and he would be able to LIVE with his wife for longer. Seriously, are you stupid? 

 

 

On 10/17/2021 at 6:16 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

"that’s the whole point"?? You still don't get it, do you? Without endemic living, he will most unlikely become one of those 3000 over infected cases daily, and he would be able to LIVE with his wife for longer. Seriously, are you stupid? 

 

why are you not shedding some tears for these people?  The mental health impact of COVID lockdowns also involves lives being lost, are these lives somehow less important?  
 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/suicide-highest-record-elderly-mental-health-isolation-covid-19-1984716
 

 

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On 10/19/2021 at 9:37 AM, Guest potato said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2021/10/18/cdc-singapore-travel-warning-covid-19-cases/8513886002/

CDC, State Department warn against US travel to Singapore, citing 'very high level of COVID-19'

 

Obviously, close to 4000 cases in such a tiny populated city and everyday got death cases yet they are very proud of the low number of covid death compare to say US and India but why not compare to better managed country like HKG?

 

Even Australia such a big continent don't have 4000 cases daily, well done 4G white monkeys, still haven't realise is a complete failure or realised but cannot admit?

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On 10/20/2021 at 12:30 PM, Guest guest said:

The current restrictions will be ending on 25th Oct, but the numbers don't seem to have gone down.

how to go down with their stupidity?

 

"US raises Covid-19 travel alert for Singapore to highest risk level,

 

Singapore News & Top Stories - The Straits Times"

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/us-raises-covid-19-travel-alert-for-singapore-to-highest-risk-level

 

 

 

 

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On 10/20/2021 at 12:30 PM, Guest guest said:

The current restrictions will be ending on 25th Oct, but the numbers don't seem to have gone down.

ending on 24 Oct, they mention will review 2 weeks after 27 sept but nothing happen or maybe banning unvaccinated is considered as a review? For numbers to go down only a CB can do that but the focus now is not on how many case but how many need to go hospital. So if today got 10000 case,  100 death but only one need to go hospital,  that is considered OK and can continue to open up for more countries to come.  

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On 10/20/2021 at 12:30 PM, Guest guest said:

The current restrictions will be ending on 25th Oct, but the numbers don't seem to have gone down.

 

Numbers go up or down or maintain  =  MMTF very succesful. 

Endemic living, remember? Why don't end?

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On 10/20/2021 at 8:28 PM, Guest Guest said:

Current tightening measures going to be extended for another month till 21 Nov.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/stabilisation-phase-restrictions-extended-nov-21-dining-social-gatherings-2256766

歹戲拖棚(諺語)比喻做得不好,時間卻拉得特別長。

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On 10/20/2021 at 8:28 PM, Guest Guest said:

Current tightening measures going to be extended for another month till 21 Nov.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/stabilisation-phase-restrictions-extended-nov-21-dining-social-gatherings-2256766

2 pax gathering continue for another month? But whether the tighten measures extended or not, you see outside so many people already can't be bother on whatever measures in place now, still crowded, people still gather as usual and go to work as per normal.

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On 10/20/2021 at 9:57 PM, Guest guest said:

2 pax gathering continue for another month? But whether the tighten measures extended or not, you see outside so many people already can't be bother on whatever measures in place now, still crowded, people still gather as usual and go to work as per normal.

 

Many people are still gathering in more than max 2 per group. Just that when they dine in they have no choice but to sit in pairs. 

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On 10/20/2021 at 9:57 PM, Guest guest said:

2 pax gathering continue for another month? But whether the tighten measures extended or not, you see outside so many people already can't be bother on whatever measures in place now, still crowded, people still gather as usual and go to work as per normal.

With the VTL foreigners start to flood in, how are they going to enforce the measures on them? 

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/better-to-bite-bullet-and-roll-back-covid-19-curbs-than-delay-the-inevitable
 

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So far, only about 3 per cent of the population has become infected. At this rate, it will take years to achieve the level of immunity Mr Ong is aiming for. This is especially so, since there is a question mark over how long antibodies will stay high after the third vaccine jab.

If the level wanes after six months, the way it has after the first two jabs, will restrictions continue indefinitely as another round, or two, of boosters will be needed to prop it up again? Those who received their booster in September may need another one by March, and so it continues.

At this rate, will there ever be a right time to roll back restrictions? Perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and relax the curbs instead of delaying in the face of the inevitable.

 

 

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On 10/21/2021 at 10:21 AM, Guest Guest said:

What / which part is "mind blowing" to you? 🤔

Sorry, I thought people have common sense and can understand. But I was wrong. 
A family of 3 (husband, wife and a kid) need to sit on 2 tables. This doesn't make any sense at all.

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Just for you to know:

 

A research in Germany found out that lifts are the biggest spreaders. Here some of the takeaways from that research.

People should not enter lifts, if there are people inside and should wear a mask inside lifts. Best is to walk the stairs to avoid any infection.

 

People outside should refrain from talking in indoor settings as aerosols spread the infection.

Indoor rooms are the biggest spreaders.

 

The main cause of infection is due to the vertical air flow from breathing

 

Only the tight sitting mask helps to reduce infection, hence for those wearing the mask loose or with the nose open is no protection and causes higher risk in getting infected. Masks should be worn properly and tight to the skin.

 

Public transport operators should do more to stop people from talking on phones or talking in buses and trains.

 

Airflow is important, the more airflow in a room (opening windows) the lower the risk.

Proper air purifier can assist in clearing aerosols.

 

In smaller environments with bad airflow or ventilation people should stay as short as possible.

 

Strenuous work, sport and singing increase risk of getting infected.

 

Most dangerous are small rooms, such as small offices, lifts, cars, toilets (!) and public transport according to the research as infectious aerosol clouds remain much longer in the air of such small environments.

 

It is not necessary that a virus spreader and later infected must have shared a room, as they can be infected through the infectious aerosols still flowing inside the room.

 

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On 10/21/2021 at 10:56 AM, Guest tomato said:

Sorry, I thought people have common sense and can understand. But I was wrong. 
A family of 3 (husband, wife and a kid) need to sit on 2 tables. This doesn't make any sense at all.

 

They can always chose to eat at home!

 

 

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On 10/21/2021 at 10:45 PM, Guest guest said:

Who started all these? And who allow the covid situation to become the current status?

债有头,冤有主

don't blame the firemen who tried to put out a big fire.

Blame the wuhan who started the fire in the first place and dare to blame others for not having good fire control and house so easily flammable.

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On 10/21/2021 at 10:56 PM, Guest fireman said:

债有头,冤有主

don't blame the firemen who tried to put out a big fire.

Blame the wuhan who started the fire in the first place and dare to blame others for not having good fire control and house so easily flammable.

Nothing can be achieved by blaming anyone. We just have to learn to live with COVID and stop this kiasi attitude.

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On 10/22/2021 at 7:05 AM, jlone said:

 

16 deaths.

 

One can only hope that all those who died are only those people who are pushing for the reopening of the economy, as well as those who are hiding dissenting views from the public. 

 

That should be a fair request. Why should any other people suffer the shitty consequences from other people's economical and monetary desires. 

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On 10/21/2021 at 10:56 AM, Guest tomato said:

Sorry, I thought people have common sense and can understand. But I was wrong. 
A family of 3 (husband, wife and a kid) need to sit on 2 tables. This doesn't make any sense at all.

makes a lot of sense to the policy makers.  after this family leaves the restaurant, they will re-group, walk in 3, take bus, mrt or car in 3.

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