Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[lonelyglobe]

On 10/21/2021 at 10:56 PM, Guest fireman said:

债有头，冤有主

don't blame the firemen who tried to put out a big fire.

Blame the wuhan who started the fire in the first place and dare to blame others for not having good fire control and house so easily flammable.

China started the fire and India let the fire grow bigger,  I believe more than 90% cases now are from the indian variant. We can't blame them as without them, SG cannot survive. We can only blame ourselves for taking it easy, first with wuhan virus and second, the Indian variant.  

[Guest potato]

On 10/22/2021 at 1:03 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

16 deaths.

 

One can only hope that all those who died are only those people who are pushing for the reopening of the economy, as well as those who are hiding dissenting views from the public. 

 

That should be a fair request. Why should any other people suffer the shitty consequences from other people's economical and monetary desires. 

i agree with you, but i hope those who insist on opening yet not prep and die due say they are prep will go into ICU and have a taste of it.  hopefully all their loved ones too.  then they will truly feel for others.

[Guest Guest]

On 10/22/2021 at 1:03 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

16 deaths.

 

One can only hope that all those who died are only those people who are pushing for the reopening of the economy, as well as those who are hiding dissenting views from the public. 

 

That should be a fair request. Why should any other people suffer the shitty consequences from other people's economical and monetary desires. 

Wonder how the families of those who died felt ... angry, resentful, still loyal, helpless, suay? 

[gc0805]

garment lock down, ppl cry father cry mother.

garment open up, ppl also cry father cry mother.

we can't be living like hermits for the rest of our lives. 

just get vaccinated, exercise social responsibility and move on cautiously.

the garment can only do that much for us. the rest is up to us, how we want to live our lives. if we feel that situation is still not under control, then stay at home all the time and don't ever go out. we all have to learn to take responsibility for our own health.

 

 

[Guest Guest]

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

garment lock down, ppl cry father cry mother.

 

 

ppl = businessmen? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

 

garment open up, ppl also cry father cry mother.

 

ppl = those whose father or mother are dead due to COVID? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

we can't be living like hermits for the rest of our lives. 

 

not re-opening the economy = living like hermits? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

the garment can only do that much for us.

 

They do whatever "little" for whatever "little" that they are paid? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

if we feel that situation is still not under control, then stay at home all the time and don't ever go out.

 

Tell that to those infected bedridden elders in all those old folks homes clusters. 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

we all have to learn to take responsibility for our own health.

 

Then MOH and MMTF put up so much of a wayang show for what? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

garment lock down, ppl cry father cry mother.

 

 

ppl = businessmen? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

 

garment open up, ppl also cry father cry mother.

 

ppl = those whose father or mother are dead due to COVID? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

we can't be living like hermits for the rest of our lives. 

 

not re-opening the economy = living like hermits? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

the garment can only do that much for us.

 

They do whatever "little" for whatever "little" that they are paid? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

if we feel that situation is still not under control, then stay at home all the time and don't ever go out.

 

Tell that to those infected bedridden elders in all those old folks homes clusters. 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 2:52 PM, gc0805 said:

we all have to learn to take responsibility for our own health.

 

Then MOH and MMTF put up so much of a wayang show for what? 

 

On 10/22/2021 at 7:13 PM, Guest fuck covid said:

if no lockdown, then how to get free money from gahmen?

 

Free money? Wait till they come clawing the money back with interest. 

[Guest Guest]

Missed the lock down days, so peaceful and quiet - MRT not many passengers ...

[jlone]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/14-more-covid-deaths-3637-new-cases-in-singapore-145300141.html

[Guest Gas]

 Out of control already.

[Guest Embrace]

I think we not only repect the virus...we embrace it...

[Guest Guest]

On 10/23/2021 at 10:22 AM, Guest Embrace said:

I think we not only repect the virus...we embrace it...

 

Singaporeans not only respect the virus ; Singaporeans not only embrace the virus ; Singaporeans have been volunteered to become the petri dish of the world to grow and propagate the virus via "endemic living" and all those VTL.

 

Wait till a new deadlier or more transmissable "Singapore variant" really mutates into existence, then we see how. Why should that be an impossibility? Has the Delta variant really been tamed? Or is it working extra hard right now to mutate into the next phase? Does Singapore want to play hero and be the first country in the world to know if the virus will further mutate? Gamblers fallacy? Risk it all in the hope that things go their way? You think all those foreign "talents" the Singapore Government loves will stay to fight for the country when that happens? They'd all be the first to leave, together with a mass exodus of all the money they've earned in Singapore. So much for reopening the economy right now. 

 

Is this fear mongering? Or just plain common sense? You tell me, before my post disappear. 

[Guest Confuse]

Same family of more than 2 cannot dine-in together.

Foreigners welcome in and walk freely.

Gym can operate without mask.

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/germany-classifies-singapore-as-high-risk-area-allows-vaccinated-travellers-to-skip

 

That xia suay minister never come out and comment?

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/living-with-covid-19-new-domestic-border-measures-announced-on-oct-23

 

Oct transit first,  Nov come in ha... Ah Heng's friends and relatives from South Asia coming to visit him. Stay away from the airport if u dont need to go, i doubt they have learnt a lesson from the last mistake. 

Edited October 23, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest 2 Years On...]

I am also quite confused.  During CB, we can still visit mall, now Mall also cannot visit and cannot dine in if unvaxxed.

 

Here is the contradiction"

 

1)  Family of 5 stayed in the same household 24/7,  should not be seen dinning together for more than 2 persons.

 

2) Table between dinner, should be kept 6 feet apart, but you are allowed to pack the entire MRT daily.

 

3)  Everyone, should try to stay at home or work from home, to prevent spread, but the travel lane has now allowed foreigners to enter withou need tot quarantine.

 

4)  When we were about 100 community cases, it is called "Heightened Alert",  now more than 3000 cases is called "Stabilisation".

 

5)  We are prepared for a new norm when more than 80% are vaccinated, but having achieved that target, we told the world we are still "covit-naive"

 

6)  We confidently screamed about living with Covit like endemic.  Now, we were told again, the hospital is already over-stretched and staff became fatique.  Many small businesses are exiting as they could not see where this govnement is leading to.

 

7)  We were told that the dorm living conditions have improved and construction worker's welfare were well taken care to prevent the spread, but it spread again like fire.  Instead of sending in ambulance and medical team, they send dozen of riot police van to control the situation.

 

😎  On certain day, we were told that the increase in number of infections are sign that we are moving in the right direction and the light at the end of tunnel is near.  Few days later, the minister became anxious about the spike and the curb and restriction further extended by another month.

 

9)  Last but not least, the true icing on the cake,  Singaporeans are to blame for the spread and has nothing to do with the non-medically trained MTF's decision.

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/23/2021 at 11:40 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Singaporeans not only respect the virus ; Singaporeans not only embrace the virus ; Singaporeans have been volunteered to become the petri dish of the world to grow and propagate the virus via "endemic living" and all those VTL.

 

Wait till a new deadlier or more transmissable "Singapore variant" really mutates into existence, then we see how. Why should that be an impossibility? Has the Delta variant really been tamed? Or is it working extra hard right now to mutate into the next phase? Does Singapore want to play hero and be the first country in the world to know if the virus will further mutate? Gamblers fallacy? Risk it all in the hope that things go their way? You think all those foreign "talents" the Singapore Government loves will stay to fight for the country when that happens? They'd all be the first to leave, together with a mass exodus of all the money they've earned in Singapore. So much for reopening the economy right now. 

 

Is this fear mongering? Or just plain common sense? You tell me, before my post disappear. 

it is fear mongering and panicking. Srsly, go and look at what measures are in place in other countries and how they are handling living with it. Singapore is way behind in terms of adapting to endemic living - it is definitely not a Petri dish.

 

and for all those panicking about foreigners coming in via VTL (or ‘flooding’ in, as another comment said) ask yourself seriously why any visitor would come here now with all the restrictions in place. The VTLs are much more likely being used by people to leave from here and return to here than by people who fancy a visit to somewhere with more COVID restrictions than they have at home. 

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/three-brakes-needed-to-control-spread-of-covid-19-in-singapore-ong-ye-kung

 

Why is this idiot comparing SG with some of the worst performing countries?  Should compare with the best like HK,  New Zealand or even Brunei.

 

Is just like comparing our economy performance with Laos, Cambodia or some African nations, no logic at all,  no wonder kena blocked in Aljunied GRC 2011, save a few million dollars but silly aunties in Sembawang GRC open the door big big for him in 2015. 

[Guest Guest]

On 10/23/2021 at 5:41 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/three-brakes-needed-to-control-spread-of-covid-19-in-singapore-ong-ye-kung

 

Why is this idiot comparing SG with some of the worst performing countries?  Should compare with the best like HK,  New Zealand or even Brunei.

 

Is just like comparing our economy performance with Laos, Cambodia or some African nations, no logic at all,  no wonder kena blocked in Aljunied GRC 2011, save a few million dollars but silly aunties in Sembawang GRC open the door big big for him in 2015. 

 

I lol'ed when he said "After going through big transmission waves for many months, the pandemic situations in many countries have stabilised, the minister said, with the infection rates in some of them even lower than in Singapore"? 

 

Is the infection rate in USA very low now? Or maybe that's why he is opening up the country to them? To make the infection rate in Singapore even higher than that in usa? Lol

 

 

 

 

On 10/23/2021 at 3:58 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/living-with-covid-19-new-domestic-border-measures-announced-on-oct-23

 

Oct transit first,  Nov come in ha... Ah Heng's friends and relatives from South Asia coming to visit him. Stay away from the airport if u dont need to go, i doubt they have learnt a lesson from the last mistake. 

 

You don't need to be a genius to start pondering how long all those countries will allow Singaporeans to go into their country without quarantine, as our infection rates gets higher and higher... 

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

On 10/23/2021 at 4:53 PM, Guest 2 Years On... said:

I am also quite confused.  During CB, we can still visit mall, now Mall also cannot visit and cannot dine in if unvaxxed.

 

Here is the contradiction"

 

1)  Family of 5 stayed in the same household 24/7,  should not be seen dinning together for more than 2 persons.

 

2) Table between dinner, should be kept 6 feet apart, but you are allowed to pack the entire MRT daily.

 

3)  Everyone, should try to stay at home or work from home, to prevent spread, but the travel lane has now allowed foreigners to enter withou need tot quarantine.

 

4)  When we were about 100 community cases, it is called "Heightened Alert",  now more than 3000 cases is called "Stabilisation".

 

5)  We are prepared for a new norm when more than 80% are vaccinated, but having achieved that target, we told the world we are still "covit-naive"

 

6)  We confidently screamed about living with Covit like endemic.  Now, we were told again, the hospital is already over-stretched and staff became fatique.  Many small businesses are exiting as they could not see where this govnement is leading to.

 

7)  We were told that the dorm living conditions have improved and construction worker's welfare were well taken care to prevent the spread, but it spread again like fire.  Instead of sending in ambulance and medical team, they send dozen of riot police van to control the situation.

 

😎  On certain day, we were told that the increase in number of infections are sign that we are moving in the right direction and the light at the end of tunnel is near.  Few days later, the minister became anxious about the spike and the curb and restriction further extended by another month.

 

9)  Last but not least, the true icing on the cake,  Singaporeans are to blame for the spread and has nothing to do with the non-medically trained MTF's decision.

 

In short, nothing have been learnt from Sars drama, dornirltory mistake repeat again and so will the airport and KTV mistake. Banning music in restaraunt but allow gym to blast their speaker,  both are mask free places, where got logic? 

 

Achieving 80% vaccination rate is just to prevent sporean jamming up the hospital and so that borders can be open wider to save SIA from bankruptcy., 

It was never done with the intention to remove restrictions and make life easier.  In fact,  the higher vaccination rate,  the more restrictions imposed. 

[Guest What?]

On 10/23/2021 at 5:55 PM, lonelyglobe said:

 

borders can be open wider to save SIA from bankruptcy., 

 

Everyone entering our borders will overwhelm the hospital if they became infected or reinfected too.  There is no hard data to confirm vaxed or recovered person won't get reinfected.   The higher the human traffic, the virus is going to have its field day

[jlone]

https://mothership.sg/2021/10/singapore-reopen-to-india-bangladesh-myanmar-nepal-pakistan-sri-lanka/

[Guest Guest]

On 10/23/2021 at 8:45 PM, jlone said:

https://mothership.sg/2021/10/singapore-reopen-to-india-bangladesh-myanmar-nepal-pakistan-sri-lanka/

So we can go JB soon ....? 🤔

[lonelyglobe]

On 10/23/2021 at 9:30 PM, Guest Guest said:

So we can go JB soon ....? 🤔

everyone hoping but there is not much incentive for SG to open up the road border for now, sporean cannot go JB meaning all the expenses will be retained in SG,  also about 100000 Malaysian trapped in SG have to spend their money here ranging from rental, transport, food etc.. Lastly,  open up JB does not benefit SIA and airport in anyway. 

[Guest Guest]

That's why only the stupid people are trying to push for the reopening of the economy : to make the rest of the population senile.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/many-covid-patients-have-memory-problems-months-later-new-study-n1282189

 

Many Covid patients have memory problems months later, new study finds
 

Even younger patients were affected by cognitive impairment and storing new memories.

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/24/2021 at 4:08 AM, Guest Guest said:

That's why only the stupid people are trying to push for the reopening of the economy : to make the rest of the population senile.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/many-covid-patients-have-memory-problems-months-later-new-study-n1282189

 

Many Covid patients have memory problems months later, new study finds
 

Even younger patients were affected by cognitive impairment and storing new memories.

so how long should we lockdown for? And what happens after that? 

[Guest Fuck covid]

On 10/24/2021 at 12:21 PM, Guest Wtf said:

so how long should we lockdown for? And what happens after that? 

Why should we open up ? Why not lockdown forever? I can work from home permanently if my job allows or I can get free money from gahmen if cannot work due to lockdown 😌

 

Why should we need to go out to meet friends and socialise ? Can just stay at home and watch Netflix instead, much safer. I don't want to catch Covid and die.

 

What's the need to resume air travel ? We should cut off from entire world and permanently shut down Changi airport. What if another variant or any other virus comes from overseas in future. I don't wanna die from another virus.

 

 

What if there are 4k deaths every near in Singapore due to pneumonia and no one talks about it , Covid is very dangerous and no one should suffer because of it 

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/24/2021 at 1:44 PM, Guest Fuck covid said:

Why should we open up ? Why not lockdown forever? I can work from home permanently if my job allows or I can get free money from gahmen if cannot work due to lockdown 😌

 

Why should we need to go out to meet friends and socialise ? Can just stay at home and watch Netflix instead, much safer. I don't want to catch Covid and die.

 

What's the need to resume air travel ? We should cut off from entire world and permanently shut down Changi airport. What if another variant or any other virus comes from overseas in future. I don't wanna die from another virus.

 

 

What if there are 4k deaths every near in Singapore due to pneumonia and no one talks about it , Covid is very dangerous and no one should suffer because of it 

sadly, there are some posters here who really believe that what you write is the correct approach, particularly the strident guest guest who wants us all to stay in a COVID-proof bunker forever. 

[singalion]

On 10/24/2021 at 3:06 PM, Guest Wtf said:

sadly, there are some posters here who really believe that what you write is the correct approach, particularly the strident guest guest who wants us all to stay in a COVID-proof bunker forever. 

 

True, while he forgot, he can catch Covid infection at home from the package of frozen prawn, delivered to his house...

 

Coronavirus found on Ecuador shrimps in China, state media says

The coronavirus was found on the outer packaging of frozen shrimps...

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-anhui-idUSKCN2581D1

(believe it or not).

 

 

And how great as his job allows him to work from home, how about all these nurses, bus drivers, retail staff and delivery "boys"... etc

 

Probably he was one of the culprits that stocked up toilet paper at home after every surge of infections...

 

 

If you don't have a life, it probably doesn't matter if you just stay at home...

 

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by singalion

[Guest Fuck covid]

On 10/24/2021 at 5:51 PM, singalion said:

 

True, while he forgot, he can catch Covid infection at home from the package of frozen prawn, delivered to his house...

 

Coronavirus found on Ecuador shrimps in China, state media says

The coronavirus was found on the outer packaging of frozen shrimps...

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-anhui-idUSKCN2581D1

(believe it or not).

 

 

And how great as his job allows him to work from home, how about all these nurses, bus drivers, retail staff and delivery "boys"... etc

 

Probably he was one of the culprits that stocked up toilet paper at home after every surge of infections...

 

 

If you don't have a life, it probably doesn't matter if you just stay at home...

 

 

OMG, time to grow my own food now!

[lonelyglobe]

On 10/24/2021 at 8:24 PM, Guest Fuck covid said:

OMG, time to grow my own food now!

Then china will tell u they found covid virus in the soil 🤣

[Guest Discriminatory]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/delegates-at-bloomberg-forum-in-spore-can-dine-in-groups-of-5-at-specific-venues

 

Not equal

 

 

 

 

 

[jlone]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/study-finds-covid-19-damage-135318570.html

[Guest Guest]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-26/singapore-has-60-more-icu-beds-left-as-severe-covid-cases-rise?srnd=premium-asia

 

Singapore ICU Beds Fill Up as Severe Covid Cases Rise

 

 

The number of seriously ill Covid-19 patients in Singapore has risen to such an extent that 83.6% of intensive care unit beds in government-run hospitals have been taken up, and only 60 are currently vacant.

 

Of the 366 ICU beds in public hospitals, 306 have occupants, according to a statement from the Ministry of Health on Monday. Of that total, 171 patients were being treated for Covid and 135 for non-Covid ailments.

 

 

Where're those (how many, 1000?) ICU beds? 

[singalion]

On 10/27/2021 at 1:38 PM, Nightingale said:

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/3277-new-covid-19-cases-in-spore-10-seniors-die

 

Because of vaccination differentiation policy, there was a surge in the number of people getting their first shot.  All along, the news media have been comparing the number of vaccinated deaths versus unvaccinated deaths in their daily reports.  But yesterday was the first time there's news blackout on this.  Today's announcement reads as "10 people . . . have died of complications linked to Covid-19.  All of them had various underlying medical conditions, except one who was unvaccinated."

Doesn't that mean that all 9 of them were vaccinated?

Doesn’t that mean the number of vaccinated deaths far exceeded the number of unvaccinated deaths yesterday (and probably also the day before)?

 

Probably.

But don't draw the wrong conclusions.

 

The important info is "various underlying medical conditions" which means diabetes, heart problems, previous stroke...

Those people might be at a higher risk to succumb to covid 19 even if they are vaccinated.

 

But for those not vaccinated, they can easily die without having such medical conditions and with higher risk for those above 60 years. 

 

The best is to ask older parents and grand parents to get vaccinated and to ask them not to leave the house in the meantime and support them by buying grocery so that they don't need to leave the house.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 27, 2021 by singalion
typo

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiV2h0dHBzOi8vY29jb251dHMuY28vc2luZ2Fwb3JlL25ld3MvY292aWQtMTktZW5ndWxmcy1zaW5nYXBvcmVzLW1lbnRhbC1oZWFsdGgtaW5zdGl0dXRlL9IBAA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[lonelyglobe]

On 10/26/2021 at 5:41 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-26/singapore-has-60-more-icu-beds-left-as-severe-covid-cases-rise?srnd=premium-asia

 

Singapore ICU Beds Fill Up as Severe Covid Cases Rise

 

 

The number of seriously ill Covid-19 patients in Singapore has risen to such an extent that 83.6% of intensive care unit beds in government-run hospitals have been taken up, and only 60 are currently vacant.

 

Of the 366 ICU beds in public hospitals, 306 have occupants, according to a statement from the Ministry of Health on Monday. Of that total, 171 patients were being treated for Covid and 135 for non-Covid ailments.

 

 

Where're those (how many, 1000?) ICU beds? 

 

Yeap,  i remmeber what was reported:

 

"Ong said in July that Singapore can open up to about 1,000 ICU beds if needed for critically ill Covid-19 patients. "

 

So ya,  lets see how he open another 700 beds and getting additional doctors and nurses for this extra 700 beds. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/27/2021 at 1:38 PM, Nightingale said:

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/3277-new-covid-19-cases-in-spore-10-seniors-die

 

Because of vaccination differentiation policy, there was a surge in the number of people getting their first shot.  All along, the news media have been comparing the number of vaccinated deaths versus unvaccinated deaths in their daily reports.  But yesterday was the first time there's news blackout on this.  Today's announcement reads as "10 people . . . have died of complications linked to Covid-19.  All of them had various underlying medical conditions, except one who was unvaccinated."

Doesn't that mean that all 9 of them were vaccinated?

Doesn’t that mean the number of vaccinated deaths far exceeded the number of unvaccinated deaths yesterday (and probably also the day before)?

No, it doesn’t mean that all 9 of them were vaccinated.
 

It is badly written but your reading comprehension is also wrong. What it means is that 10 people died. Of those, 9 had underlying medical conditions and the there is one more who did not have underlying medical conditions AND was unvaccinated. It doesn’t say anything about the vaccine status of the 9 with underlying conditions. 

[Guest Guest]

oh boy .... if this report is true, the shit is gonna hit the fans soon, especially with countries pushing for "endemic living" serving as the perfect breeding and propagation grounds for the new variant. This is not unexpected. 

 

https://rifnote.com/2021/10/27/scientists-discover-a-new-covid-variant-that-evades-both-the-mrna-and-dna-vaccines-could-potentially-lead-to-vicious-vaccine-cycle-endless-variants-endless-boosters/

 

"For example, the constant mutation is why we still don’t have vaccines against HIV 40 years later. The same is happening with covid-19. As such, the development of new vaccines to protect against new covid variants is becoming the proverbial cat and mouse game which may eventually lead to a vicious circle and no permanent cure for the deadly virus–With every new infection, the virus mutates, which means new vaccines or booster doses are needed to treat the new variants."

 

"Fast forward six months after B.1.351 variant was discovered, today a team of researchers announced they have discovered a new variant that evades both the mRNA and DNA/AAV vaccines. They found that SARS-CoV-2 A.30 enters certain cell lines with increased efficiency and evades antibody-mediated neutralization.

 

According to research published in Nature, this “heavily mutated” variant (called A.30) exists in the wild and has been found in patients on at least two continents. The variant overcomes both the mRNA and DNA/AAV vaccines, the researchers say. They found that the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 variant A.30 is heavily mutated and evades vaccine-induced antibodies with high efficiency."

 

 

"As part of the study, the researchers investigated host cell entry and antibody-mediated neutralization of the variant A.30 (also termed A.VOI.V2), which was detected in several patients in Angola and Sweden (one of those Cat 2 VTL countries with Singapore) in spring 2021 and likely originated in Tanzania."

 

 

 

More references :  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41423-021-00779-5?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100137290&utm_content=deeplink

 

"In summary, A.30 exhibits a cell line preference not observed for other viral variants and efficiently evades neutralization by antibodies elicited by ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 or BNT162b2 vaccination."

[singalion]

On 10/27/2021 at 5:53 PM, Guest Wtf said:

No, it doesn’t mean that all 9 of them were vaccinated.
 

It is badly written but your reading comprehension is also wrong. What it means is that 10 people died. Of those, 9 had underlying medical conditions and the there is one more who did not have underlying medical conditions AND was unvaccinated. It doesn’t say anything about the vaccine status of the 9 with underlying conditions. 

 

That is your interpretation. It is open to both interpretations.

 

You can't blame Nightingale for bad reading comprehension if the sentence is badly drafted.

 

 

[singalion]

Only 5 out of 5,500 VTL travellers have been Covid 19 positive as reported this morning in the news.

 

On arrival they go into Self Isolation and wait for their PCR Test result from the airport.

 

They don't go shopping or eat at Food Courts at the airport...

[singalion]

 

 

However, I got the impression that the call for the booster vaccination goes very slow.

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/27/2021 at 7:13 PM, singalion said:

 

That is your interpretation. It is open to both interpretations.

 

You can't blame Nightingale for bad reading comprehension if the sentence is badly drafted.

 

 

nope it is a fact that the vaccine status of the nine is not mentioned - this is not an interpretation. 

[jlone]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/record-high-of-5324-new-covid-cases-in-spore-10-more-deaths-151441716.html

[mate69]

5,324

Wow

[Guest Fuck covid]

On 10/28/2021 at 1:07 AM, mate69 said:

5,324

Wow

No need to panic looking at these numbers, 98.7% cases are asymptomatic or mild

[Guest Guest]

On 10/28/2021 at 8:58 AM, Guest Fuck covid said:

No need to panic looking at these numbers, 98.7% cases are asymptomatic or mild

 

3000 people infected, no need to panic. 

5000 people infected, no need to panic. 

10,000 people infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone dies, no way to panic. 

[Guest Fuck covid]

On 10/28/2021 at 10:05 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

3000 people infected, no need to panic. 

5000 people infected, no need to panic. 

10,000 people infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone dies, no way to panic. 

Calm down! 
Over the last 28 days, of the 90,203 infected individuals, 98.7% had no or mild symptoms, 0.9% required oxygen supplementation in the general ward, 0.1% were unstable and under close monitoring in the intensive care unit (ICU), 0.1% were critically ill and intubated in the ICU, and 0.2% has died.

Source: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(27-oct-2021)

[yuquidam]

On 10/28/2021 at 1:07 AM, mate69 said:

5,324

Wow

I no panic but now MOH panic. LOL

 

Not enough staff to manage ICU beds if rate of increase goes up further.

 

Think hospital staff no energy to panic but pengsan liao, burnt out.

 

Having said that, I do worry for the elderly in my extended family. Hiaz..

 

Edited October 28, 2021 by yuquidam

[singalion]

On 10/28/2021 at 10:05 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

3000 people infected, no need to panic. 

5000 people infected, no need to panic. 

10,000 people infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone infected, no need to panic. 

Everyone dies, no way to panic. 

 

What do you want to do?

Close everything down, everyone at serious lock-down, not allowed to leave the house at all, close all borders, close the ports?

 

Who will deliver the food to your doorstep?

Who will drive the bus, mrt?

Who will sell the food at the supermarket?

 

What will happen to Singapore if you go into another lockdown?

Everyone bankrupt, companies insolvent. People begging on the street and at the public transport.

Just go to certain shopping malls and you see how many shops closed down. Go to the areas with bars and see what is left. You want more to close down for good with all the consequences for the employees?

 

And guess what the government will need to do to cover all related costs?

Increase tax? Increase GST even more?

Look for more fees to pay everywhere at Government Boards (how about a visitor fee of S$15 per entry? )

 

Instead of whining here and complaining, just understand, the Government must take this approach to help more people to survive and companies not to go bust.

 

It is not different to other countries, England, US, Germany etc all countries went slowly back to "normal" operations but with certain restrictions.

 

For those like yourself who don't work at all, it is easy to cry foul and complain.

 

 

The message is: Get vaccinated. At least the risk to die is only 2% if vaccinated.

For those who can't get vaccinated, the message is: reduce contact to others as much as you can.

For those who refuse to get vaccinated, they know the risk they take.

 

 

 

 

[singalion]

On 10/27/2021 at 7:35 PM, Guest Wtf said:

nope it is a fact that the vaccine status of the nine is not mentioned - this is not an interpretation. 

 

How do you know?

You are the author of the Straits Times article?

 

Nobody said that the vaccine status of the nine is mentioned.

But the way it was written is still open to interpretation, namely that the 9 were vaccinated.

Both interpretations are possible.

The question is why this information was withheld and why the part was drafted in such a bad manner?

And why the author needed to add "It gave no further details".

 

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 10/28/2021 at 12:40 PM, singalion said:

 

How do you know?

You are the author of the Straits Times article?

 

Nobody said that the vaccine status of the nine is mentioned.

But the way it was written is still open to interpretation, namely that the 9 were vaccinated.

Both interpretations are possible.

The question is why this information was withheld and why the part was drafted in such a bad manner?

And why the author needed to add "It gave no further details".

 

 

 

 

i know it is a fact it is not mentioned because I read the words written in the page and it is, literally, not mentioned. Just as it was written in the same style in yesterday’s update, where it was also not mentioned and only the vaccine status of the person who died without pre existing conditions was given. 
 

It is legitimate to ask why they have stopped providing the breakdown but you cannot deduce the vaccine status of those with pre existing conditions who died by the words written on the page because it does not say it anywhere. This is not an interpretation but a fact based on basic reading comprehension.