Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[Guest Guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 11:06 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

The real reason why it was named Omicron variant: 

 

 

The last two discovered were called, respectively, Lambda and Mu. Although these letters are followed by Nu and Xi in the Greek Alphabet, the WHO decided to skip them.

 

According to WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris, Nu was not employed to avoid confusion in English-speaking countries.

 

“Nu sounds too much like ‘new’ in English,” Harris told Corriere della Sera. “In short, the English-speaking world would have found itself in the situation of hearing two extremely similar sounds in a sentence in which it spoke of the ‘new Nu variant’ and would have thought that it was only a new variant, not the name of that variant.”

 

Regarding Xi, the problem was geopolitical.

 

“Xi is an extremely common last name,” she said. “Our guidelines impose not to use names that could harm cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.”

 

Xi is common in China. It is also the name of the current president, Xi Jinping.

 

 

 

The link to the entire article for those who are interested: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/why-is-the-new-coronavirus-variant-called-omicron-687165

[Guest Guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 10:00 AM, Guest Guest said:

Depends on who you talk to. People like Guest Wtf will be sad that he needs to retreat back to his dark prison cell home where bare walls surround him. 

So amused …. Now everyone also knows the pattern of Guest wtf and his gang ah …. Lol! 😂 😆 

[singalion]

On 11/28/2021 at 11:06 AM, Guest Guest said:

Xi is an extremely common last name,” she said. “Our guidelines impose not to use names that could harm cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.”

 

Xi is common in China. It is also the name of the current president, Xi Jinping.

 

 

I guess one EX US president hadn't been shy to call the new variant "XI" .

 

[lonelyglobe]

On 11/28/2021 at 11:06 AM, Guest Guest said:

Regarding Xi, the problem was geopolitical.

 

“Xi is an extremely common last name,” she said. “Our guidelines impose not to use names that could harm cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.”

 

Xi is common in China. It is also the name of the current president, Xi Jinping.

 

 

Xi also not auspicious as it sounds like die in hokkien, omicron sounds quite a cool name and hopefully can continue to treat it as common flu. 

[Guest Guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 10:23 AM, Guest Wtf said:

yes, this might actually be another way out of the pandemic - a less potent and more infectious strain becoming the dominant variant. 

 

Hey Guest Wtf, ready to go back to YOUR covid bunker? You might need to start repainting the walls of your prison cell home now that even PM Lee says there may be a need to reconsider the reopening of the economy. 

 

Singapore may have to 'take a few steps back' because of Omicron variant: PM Lee (msn.com) 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 11:06 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

"Obsessed" with you? "Narcissistic" describes you well.  

 

 

 

 

The real reason why it was named Omicron variant: 

 

 

The last two discovered were called, respectively, Lambda and Mu. Although these letters are followed by Nu and Xi in the Greek Alphabet, the WHO decided to skip them.

 

According to WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris, Nu was not employed to avoid confusion in English-speaking countries.

 

“Nu sounds too much like ‘new’ in English,” Harris told Corriere della Sera. “In short, the English-speaking world would have found itself in the situation of hearing two extremely similar sounds in a sentence in which it spoke of the ‘new Nu variant’ and would have thought that it was only a new variant, not the name of that variant.”

 

Regarding Xi, the problem was geopolitical.

 

“Xi is an extremely common last name,” she said. “Our guidelines impose not to use names that could harm cultural, social, national, regional, professional or ethnic groups.”

 

Xi is common in China. It is also the name of the current president, Xi Jinping.

 

 

 

Talk so much. Long story short: 

They cannot name it the "nu" virus because the "new" virus will inevitably become old. 

And they cannot name it the "Xi" virus because it has already been in existence since 15 June 1953, and it's toxicity has become much more apparent from 14 March 2013 onwards, to the extent that it is has long been classified to be a worldwide virus of concern with no end in sight. 

[Kimochi]

Now imagine delta and Omicron mating season ~ 

Edited November 28, 2021 by Kimochi

[Guest Wtf]

On 11/28/2021 at 3:34 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Hey Guest Wtf, ready to go back to YOUR covid bunker? You might need to start repainting the walls of your prison cell home now that even PM Lee says there may be a need to reconsider the reopening of the economy. 

 

Singapore may have to 'take a few steps back' because of Omicron variant: PM Lee (msn.com) 

 

errr, where’s the karma here?
 

It’s quite logical that people will say that things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic.

 

I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this, other than people like you who have ignored the facts and keep insisting on continuing to lockdown forever and acting as if COVID is a super lethal deadly killer zombie virus, when currently around 98% of cases are mild or asymptomatic. 
 

[Guest Guest]

“Omicro” sounds so Marvel comics/Superman universe … 👍👍

[Guest Guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 4:26 PM, Guest Wtf said:

errr, where’s the karma here?
 

It’s quite logical that people will say that things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic.

 

I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this, other than people like you who have ignored the facts and keep insisting on continuing to lockdown forever and acting as if COVID is a super lethal deadly killer zombie virus, when currently around 98% of cases are mild or asymptomatic. 
 

 

Prata flip ah flip.

Fast or not?

 

[LeanMature]

If the new variant already travelled out of South Africa, which was found in Denmark and Hong Kong, then it's a matter of time before it reaches the shore of Singapore. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 11/28/2021 at 5:23 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Prata flip ah flip.

Fast or not?

 

thanks for the proof that being able to find a gif is not the same as being able to make any coherent point.

 

please stop derailing the discussion with your garbage and let the grown-ups talk intelligently about COVID. Feel free to start a ‘my favorite gifs’ thread if you are bored. 

[lonelyglobe]

On 11/28/2021 at 5:48 PM, LeanMature said:

If the new variant already travelled out of South Africa, which was found in Denmark and Hong Kong, then it's a matter of time before it reaches the shore of Singapore. 

By now it should be all over the world already but just haven't got detected in some countries including SG. Some countries might not even aggressively detect so they can remain omicron-free.

 

If HK with such a close door policy and strict quarantine policy can have 2 cases,  i don't see how we can escape.

Edited November 28, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

 

 

On 11/28/2021 at 6:23 PM, Guest Wtf said:

thanks for the proof that being able to find a gif is not the same as being able to make any coherent point.

 

please stop derailing the discussion with your garbage and let the grown-ups talk intelligently about COVID. Feel free to start a ‘my favorite gifs’ thread if you are bored. 

 

You don't understand the gif? Well.... I guess thanks for the proof that you are too far detached from reality to be capable of understanding the simple points that any common adult Singaporeans will understand.

 

please stop derailing the discussion with your fantasy life and go back to your favorite comic book reality in the comfort of your prison-cell home.

[Guest Wtf]

On 11/28/2021 at 6:42 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

 

 

You don't understand the gif? Well.... I guess thanks for the proof that you are too far detached from reality to be capable of understanding the simple points that any common adult Singaporeans will understand.

 

please stop derailing the discussion with your fantasy life and go back to your favorite comic book reality in the comfort of your prison-cell home.

yeah, I understand the gif but it has zero relevance to my comment. Just like the karma gif you posted before had zero relevance too.
 

I know that, for you, words are hard and pictures are easier but If you want to use a gif to make a point, please try and find one that says something relevant so you look a little less foolish.
 

You should start paying me for all the tips I am having to give you to help you look a bit smarter. 

[Guest guest]

On 11/28/2021 at 6:40 PM, lonelyglobe said:

By now it should be all over the world already but just haven't got detected in some countries including SG. Some countries might not even aggressively detect so they can remain omicron-free.

 

If HK with such a close door policy and strict quarantine policy can have 2 cases,  i don't see how we can escape.

Agreed, sg would never able to escape from this omicron, since sg is always an open door policy and living with covid plan. Looks like 2022 would be another repeat year of 2021? Wonder how many jab of vaccine do we need to jab?

[Guest Guest]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-29/nsw-health-confirms-two-more-omicron-covid-cases-in-sydney/100658728

 

Genomic testing has confirmed another two cases of the Omicron COVID-19 variant from passengers who arrived in Sydney from southern Africa last night.

Both passengers arrived on Singapore Airlines flight SQ211 on Sunday.

[Guest Wtf]

Singapore’s number one Karen says sorry 😆 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/anti-vaccine-group-founder-apologises-for-asking-followers-to-flood-public-hotlines?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2PYBDP1I_afni--6I52qj5_N857yagkdFSuCuy80S5XqoCsgfvKGwo6YE
 

[Guest Guest]

On 11/30/2021 at 12:57 PM, Guest Wtf said:

Singapore’s number one Karen says sorry 😆 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/anti-vaccine-group-founder-apologises-for-asking-followers-to-flood-public-hotlines?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2PYBDP1I_afni--6I52qj5_N857yagkdFSuCuy80S5XqoCsgfvKGwo6YE
 

 

So where is that "sorry" from you, Ms Singapore’s number one Karen - Guest Wtf ? 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/1/2021 at 8:26 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

So where is that "sorry" from you, Ms Singapore’s number one Karen - Guest Wtf ? 

If you want to get my attention so badly, please start using the initiative to give yourself a consistent guest name. That way, I can spot your idiotic comments even more quickly and give you the attention you clearly are desperate for. Thanks.  
 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/1/2021 at 8:26 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

So where is that "sorry" from you, Ms Singapore’s number one Karen - Guest Wtf ? 

btw, have you not noticed that all of your lame trolling posts are just being deleted? Why bother? 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/1/2021 at 9:53 AM, Guest Wtf said:

btw, have you not noticed that all of your lame trolling posts are just being deleted? Why bother? 

 

All my posts? Hey stupid, you talking to the wrong guy here. 

 

 

On 12/1/2021 at 9:50 AM, Guest Wtf said:

If you want to get my attention so badly, please start using the initiative to give yourself a consistent guest name. That way, I can spot your idiotic comments even more quickly and give you the attention you clearly are desperate for. Thanks.  

 

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/1/2021 at 10:05 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

All my posts? Hey stupid, you talking to the wrong guy here. 

 

 

 

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

🥱 

[Steve5380]

On 11/30/2021 at 8:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

All my posts? Hey stupid, you talking to the wrong guy here. 

 

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

 

Oh!  You seem to have been infected with a particular variant of covid:  one that attacks the brain!

[Steve5380]

On 11/26/2021 at 11:45 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Lets roll out the red carpet to welcome the invasion of the Omicron variant into Singapore now. 

 

 

Thank you for confirming what I have hinted at in my previous post:

 

The rare mutation of covid that infected your brain is promoting its species by making you "roll out the red carpet" to welcome the Omicron variant.  When it arrives,  the Omicron will roll out right into YOU. 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/1/2021 at 10:05 AM, Guest Guest said:

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

 

LOL 😆👋

[Steve5380]

Posted 3 hours ago

  On 11/30/2021 at 8:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

On 12/1/2021 at 9:45 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

LOL 😆👋

 

Why you two, or you one,  don't sign up?  It would show that you have some dignity.

[Guest Fuck covid]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/seniors-and-the-poor-most-likely-to-feel-uneasy-about-singapores-covid-19-reopening

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

I am not sure what is the purpose of doing this kind of survey, common sense will tell us the old definitely more kancheong than the young as they tend to have more serious consequences. Likewise the rich, a lot in SG,  will not be affected as much as the poor. 

 

Also,  where are the people surveyed came from? The result seems to coincide with the 60% and 40% that occured every 4 years. If they asked me,  i will probably give 30% the most. 

[lonelyglobe]

On 11/16/2021 at 6:52 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/2-imported-covid-19-cases-in-spore-test-preliminarily-positive-for-omicron-variant

[Guest Guest]

https://www.cityam.com/covid-death-rate-not-rising-swap-travel-restrictions-and-mass-hysteria-for-cautious-optimism-as-omicron-mutation-is-super-mild-variant-who-and-coronavirus-experts-say/

[jlone]

On 12/2/2021 at 9:22 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.cityam.com/covid-death-rate-not-rising-swap-travel-restrictions-and-mass-hysteria-for-cautious-optimism-as-omicron-mutation-is-super-mild-variant-who-and-coronavirus-experts-say/

Is the above report reliable ? Maybe they try to play it down also possible.

It's too early to tell.

[Guest Guest]

On 12/2/2021 at 9:22 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.cityam.com/covid-death-rate-not-rising-swap-travel-restrictions-and-mass-hysteria-for-cautious-optimism-as-omicron-mutation-is-super-mild-variant-who-and-coronavirus-experts-say/

 

Delta was also supposedly less lethal than the original COVID-19 virus, but it still killed 10x more people in Singapore, because it was not only more transmissible, but it was allowed to spread in "endemic living".  

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/2/2021 at 10:23 PM, jlone said:

Is the above report reliable ? Maybe they try to play it down also possible.

It's too early to tell.

none of the reports are reliable at this stage other than the ones that say more time and data are needed to be able to say anything more certain. There seems to be mass hysteria around the variant in the absence of many facts, with most media tending towards over reporting and fear mongering - this article is at least a welcome break from that.

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/2/2021 at 11:13 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Delta was also supposedly less lethal than the original COVID-19 virus, but it still killed 10x more people in Singapore, because it was not only more transmissible, but it was allowed to spread in "endemic living".  

remind me: what’s the alternative strategy for Singapore to follow instead of endemic living for a virus where more than 98.6% of infected people have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic?
 

[LeanMature]

Hopefully no need to manufacture another vaccine to make those companies already making billions richer.

[LeanMature]

On 12/2/2021 at 3:25 AM, Steve5380 said:

Posted 3 hours ago

  On 11/30/2021 at 8:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

You are really as stupid as what everyone has said of you: If I want a consistent guest name, I might as well sign up as a member. 

 

Why you two, or you one,  don't sign up?  It would show that you have some dignity.

 

Sometimes, they had already signed up but prefer to use "Guest" for ranting.  

[singalion]

 

• Published Dec 2, 2021, 7:07 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - Essential Ministry of Defence (Mindef) and Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) personnel who have been assessed to have a higher risk of Covid-19 infection...

 

 

I never got these boys in military suits for my vaccinations... 😭

[singalion]

Singapore detects first 2 imported Covid-19 cases who test preliminarily positive for Omicron

 

SINGAPORE - Two imported Covid-19 cases have preliminarily tested positive for the Omicron variant on Thursday (Dec 2), the Ministry of Health (MOH) said.

Both cases were isolated upon arrival in Singapore on Wednesday, and had no interaction with anyone in the community.

"There is currently no evidence of any community transmission from these cases," said MOH in a statement on Thursday.

The ministry added that both cases are currently recovering in isolation wards at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases. They are fully vaccinated, and have mild symptoms of cough and scratchy throat.

 

 

 

But it seems Singapore learnt a little bit since Delta. The reaction to take measures was much faster and the arrivals were isolated immediately.

 

The only issue will arise if on with Omicron variant has infected someone at the airport and that person will slip through, or someone has not been detected on the PCR and then is released...

 

We will need to see...

 

The general pressure is on persons who refuse to get vaccinated.

 

The really disadvantaged people are those who cannot get vaccinated due to medical reasons.

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/2/2021 at 11:19 PM, Guest Wtf said:

remind me: what’s the alternative strategy for Singapore to follow instead of endemic living for a virus where more than 98.6% of infected people have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic?
 

 

Oh! So when it was the reopening during the Delta variant spread, the question is "what’s the alternative strategy for Singapore to follow instead of endemic living"? 

 

On 11/28/2021 at 4:26 PM, Guest Wtf said:

errr, where’s the karma here?
 

It’s quite logical that people will say that things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic.

 

I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this, other than people like you who have ignored the facts and keep insisting on continuing to lockdown forever and acting as if COVID is a super lethal deadly killer zombie virus, when currently around 98% of cases are mild or asymptomatic. 
 

 

And now. when it comes to potential lockdown because of the Omicron variant, it becomes "things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic. I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this"? 

 

No wonder people used that prataman gif to describe you! Flip ah flip! Flip ah flip! Fast or not? A picture paints a thousand words. You must be darn stupid not to understand the relevance! 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/3/2021 at 4:35 PM, singalion said:

But it seems Singapore learnt a little bit since Delta. The reaction to take measures was much faster and the arrivals were isolated immediately.

 

Isolated immediately?? Where is your evidence? What about those two travelers who transited from SA through SG into Sydney? Where were they isolated?? If not for the AU authorities who detected them, will SG have stepped up the checks and controls??

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/11/sia-omicron-cases-sydney/ 

 

Those two travelers departed from Johannesburg on Nov. 27 via Singapore Airlines SQ481.  and departed on SQ211  at 10:30am on Sunday and landed in Sydney at 9:20pm. So where were they "isolated"? The entire transit area in the whole Changi Airport is considered isolation?? No interaction  with anyone? No place to eat? No waiters to take the orders? No using of toilets? You are really so full of crap! 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/4/2021 at 1:15 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Oh! So when it was the reopening during the Delta variant spread, the question is "what’s the alternative strategy for Singapore to follow instead of endemic living"? 

 

 

And now. when it comes to potential lockdown because of the Omicron variant, it becomes "things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic. I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this"? 

 

No wonder people used that prataman gif to describe you! Flip ah flip! Flip ah flip! Fast or not? A picture paints a thousand words. You must be darn stupid not to understand the relevance! 

 

 

 

 

Where is the flipping? The inside of your head must really be a mess because these comments of yours are totally meaningless. You also seem to now be losing your grip on reality even further and adopting multiple personalities and referring to yourself as ‘people’.
 

Please seek treatment, you don’t have to feel like this (unless you are terminally stupid, which is also definitely possible). 

[superflawless]

On 12/3/2021 at 4:35 PM, singalion said:

Singapore detects first 2 imported Covid-19 cases who test preliminarily positive for Omicron

 

SINGAPORE - Two imported Covid-19 cases have preliminarily tested positive for the Omicron variant on Thursday (Dec 2), the Ministry of Health (MOH) said.

Both cases were isolated upon arrival in Singapore on Wednesday, and had no interaction with anyone in the community.

"There is currently no evidence of any community transmission from these cases," said MOH in a statement on Thursday.

The ministry added that both cases are currently recovering in isolation wards at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases. They are fully vaccinated, and have mild symptoms of cough and scratchy throat.

 

 

 

But it seems Singapore learnt a little bit since Delta. The reaction to take measures was much faster and the arrivals were isolated immediately.

 

The only issue will arise if on with Omicron variant has infected someone at the airport and that person will slip through, or someone has not been detected on the PCR and then is released...

 

We will need to see...

 

The general pressure is on persons who refuse to get vaccinated.

 

The really disadvantaged people are those who cannot get vaccinated due to medical reasons.

 

 

 

Exactly. Because based on that 1st case in Hong Kong, that South African traveler was tested multiple times during quarantine. And the PCR test ONLY came back positive on the 3rd or 4th test. If he had not been quarantined, he would have spread to everyone (and not just to that other traveler staying in the room opposite). 

 

This Omicron is highly contagious and very sneaky. Many PCR tests fail to test positive. 

[jlone]

https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/singaporeans-erosion-of-trust-in-political-leadership-after-covid-19-surge-public-confidence-in-authorities-to-manage-the-pandemic-falls-53-new-poll-shows/ar-AARs0Xl?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/4/2021 at 1:31 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Isolated immediately?? Where is your evidence? What about those two travelers who transited from SA through SG into Sydney? Where were they isolated?? If not for the AU authorities who detected them, will SG have stepped up the checks and controls??

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/11/sia-omicron-cases-sydney/ 

 

Those two travelers departed from Johannesburg on Nov. 27 via Singapore Airlines SQ481.  and departed on SQ211  at 10:30am on Sunday and landed in Sydney at 9:20pm. So where were they "isolated"? The entire transit area in the whole Changi Airport is considered isolation?? No interaction  with anyone? No place to eat? No waiters to take the orders? No using of toilets? You are really so full of crap! 

 

Not only australia but also the malaysia case which transit via SG. Even though they may not have enter SG but they may have infect others while on the flight and also during their transit in the airport, just like how the delta spread out from the airport. Also this self quarantine at home and dont even need to report to MOH is yet just another mess created. 

 

Curious how south africa do their PCR, out of 600 pax going to amsterdam,  they can have 61 covid cases, that is like 10%. 

Edited December 4, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/4/2021 at 1:31 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Isolated immediately?? Where is your evidence? What about those two travelers who transited from SA through SG into Sydney? Where were they isolated?? If not for the AU authorities who detected them, will SG have stepped up the checks and controls??

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/11/sia-omicron-cases-sydney/ 

 

Those two travelers departed from Johannesburg on Nov. 27 via Singapore Airlines SQ481.  and departed on SQ211  at 10:30am on Sunday and landed in Sydney at 9:20pm. So where were they "isolated"? The entire transit area in the whole Changi Airport is considered isolation?? No interaction  with anyone? No place to eat? No waiters to take the orders? No using of toilets? You are really so full of crap! 

 

“panic, panic, Armageddon, oh my god, sky falling in…!”

 

😂 

 

[singalion]

On 12/4/2021 at 2:17 PM, superflawless said:

Exactly. Because based on that 1st case in Hong Kong, that South African traveler was tested multiple times during quarantine. And the PCR test ONLY came back positive on the 3rd or 4th test. If he had not been quarantined, he would have spread to everyone (and not just to that other traveler staying in the room opposite). 

 

This Omicron is highly contagious and very sneaky. Many PCR tests fail to test positive. 

 

But there is something what they call incubation period (might not be medically correct) but what I mean is until it can be detected and what they called "asymptomatic" cases.

 

If you look at the two arrivals to Singapore who were quarantined after arrival, their PCR test in South Africa for both were negative. We don't know whether the PCR test in Johannesburg was "flawed" or fake but the antibodies only developed during the 10 1/2 hours flight into Singapore and the infection was detected.

 

By the way, as it was mentioned in a different post (not from superflawless),  nobody here was talking about transit passengers.

If Singapore started PCR testing transit passengers also, then what to do when they are tested positive? Most of the transit passengers would not have any permit to enter Singapore, Changi would need to set up a quarantine center at the transit area, and then Singapore must be prepared also to allow those people into the hospitals within Singapore when they fall seriously sick on Covid. I don't think

Then in that case, you need to shut down all flights and the airport if you intend to break any potential infection chain to zero or a transmission with airport workers. 

Actually, I did understand the point from that post on those transfer passengers.

 

The new measure on Omicron by Singapore compared to Delta was: When Delta started in certain countries, Singapore did not pull the string immediately and had allowed various people arriving from those countries into the community in Singapore, that was the danger and started the whole increase of Delta cases in Singapore.

Now, this time around Singapore checked on arrival and separated all people arriving from the problematic regions into immediate isolation.

 

Further, not all countries "detain" such people in a quarantine facility directly like at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases. In many countries this would be already disallowed or would require the consent of the persons concerned

(unless something like Ebola).

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/4/2021 at 5:03 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Not only australia but also the malaysia case which transit via SG. Even though they may not have enter SG but they may have infect others while on the flight and also during their transit in the airport, just like how the delta spread out from the airport. Also this self quarantine at home and dont even need to report to MOH is yet just another mess created. 

 

Curious how south africa do their PCR, out of 600 pax going to amsterdam,  they can have 61 covid cases, that is like 10%. 

 

I have some raised some doubts on the PCR testing in South Africa in my previous post also.

 

The Delta spread out from the food court outside the arrival area at the public area or two infected persons talking to other people at the public area when asking for directions. But now the arriving passengers go through a certain lane and then to a cab. Sure infections could happen on the way if people were infected in the flight or later after touch down. What I noted is that passengers waiting for the immigration clearance are still too close to each other, the airport should control the people flow better and ask to keep more distance.

The best way would be to speed up the testing, what I mean is getting the results and maybe put the lab directly into Changi and the arriving passengers need to wait for the result at the airport first (but separated). On the other hand that may cause more infections also. So it is a difficult line to draw.

 

Regarding the self isolation for those who are not tested positive on arrival. They need to go into self isolation and not mingle with any other family members in a room with attached bathroom. If you don't have any such facility at home, you need to go to a government quarantine center (mostly a hotel). Sure there will be cheats and people flouting the rules. But they will get the "bang" later at court.

 

However, this does not apply to Singaporeans or PRs from the following countries:

Travellers whose 14-day travel history includes Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe are disallowed from entering Singapore. From 4 Dec 2021, 2359hrs, this restriction is extended to cover travellers whose 14-day travel history includes Ghana, Malawi, and Nigeria. Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents, may enter Singapore from these countries/regions but will be subject to Category (IV) protocols.

=> Serve 10-day Stay-Home Notice (SHN) at an SHN Dedicated Facility

 

Cases confirmed or suspected to be infected with the Omicron variant will not be allowed to undergo home recovery, and instead be conveyed to the National Centre for Infectious Diseases for isolation and management. We will also conduct full contact tracing for these cases to identify their close contacts, place them on a 10-day quarantine at designated facilities instead of allowing self-isolation at home, and conduct PCR testing at the start and at the end of their quarantine.

https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/maintaining-vigilance-with-precautionary-moves-to-better-detect-and-reduce-risk-of-local-transmission-of-the-omicron-variant

 

 

 

Those here who mount a very aggressive approach, note that the majority of travellers are locals or people having base in Singapore. Not allowing those people to return would be quite harsh and some might end up sleeping on the street or airport if they run out of money.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by singalion
amended

[singalion]

Just for information and clarification:

 

Singapore had disallowed any transit passengers from 27 Nov 23:59pm from 7 South African countries.

 

Which means that above Guest post complaining on transit passengers was already outdated and just posting a red herring. 

 

 

Updated on 26 November 2021,

 

People who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia and Zimbabwe in the last 14 days will not be allowed to enter or transit through Singapore from 11:59 p.m. local time on Nov. 27, the Ministry of Health said in a statement Friday. The restriction will apply to those who had already obtained prior approval for entry into the city-state.

 

The list of countries affected was amended with effect from today:

 

Immigration & Checkpoints Authority

Last Updated 04 Dec 2021

 

Travellers with travel history to the following countries/regions within the past 14 days, are disallowed from transiting in Singapore until further notice:

1. Botswana, Eswatini, Ghana*, Lesotho, Malawi*, Mozambique, Namibia, Nigeria*, South Africa and Zimbabwe.

[*With effect from 4 Dec 2021, 2359hrs.]

 

https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/transit/overview

 

Edited December 4, 2021 by singalion

[Guest Guest]

On 12/4/2021 at 6:48 PM, singalion said:

Just for information and clarification:

 

Singapore had disallowed any transit passengers from 27 Nov 23:59pm from 7 South African countries.

 

Which means that above Guest post complaining on transit passengers was already outdated and just posting a red herring. 

 

 

Updated on 26 November 2021,

 

People who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia and Zimbabwe in the last 14 days will not be allowed to enter or transit through Singapore from 11:59 p.m. local time on Nov. 27, the Ministry of Health said in a statement Friday. The restriction will apply to those who had already obtained prior approval for entry into the city-state.

 

The list of countries affected was amended with effect from today:

 

Immigration & Checkpoints Authority

Last Updated 04 Dec 2021

 

Travellers with travel history to the following countries/regions within the past 14 days, are disallowed from transiting in Singapore until further notice:

1. Botswana, Eswatini, Ghana*, Lesotho, Malawi*, Mozambique, Namibia, Nigeria*, South Africa and Zimbabwe.

[*With effect from 4 Dec 2021, 2359hrs.]

 

https://safetravel.ica.gov.sg/transit/overview

 

 

Seriously, just how dense and stupid can you get? 

 

We are talking about the Omicron virus which seems to be even more transmissible than Delta and potentially more fatal as well. So what if you bar transit passengers from those 7 or 10 countries? You mean the other transit passengers from other countries do not run the risk of carrying the virus throughout the transit terminals? 

 

How did the Covid virus first spread in Singapore?? Which one was the first cluster? Wasn't it Changi Airport? Didn't Singapore also banned certain flights at the beginning? And yet, look at how the entire Jewel was shutdown for an extended period of time. And now, history is repeating itself? And you actually think banning transit passengers from those few countries is going to be effective? And this is reacting fast? This is learning something? 

 

You need to be a retard to believe that.