Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[superflawless]

On 12/4/2021 at 5:56 PM, singalion said:

 

But there is something what they call incubation period (might not be medically correct) but what I mean is until it can be detected and what they called "asymptomatic" cases.

 

If you look at the two arrivals to Singapore who were quarantined after arrival, their PCR test in South Africa for both were negative. We don't know whether the PCR test in Johannesburg was "flawed" or fake but the antibodies only developed during the 10 1/2 hours flight into Singapore and the infection was detected.

 

By the way, as it was mentioned in a different post (not from superflawless),  nobody here was talking about transit passengers.

If Singapore started PCR testing transit passengers also, then what to do when they are tested positive? Most of the transit passengers would not have any permit to enter Singapore, Changi would need to set up a quarantine center at the transit area, and then Singapore must be prepared also to allow those people into the hospitals within Singapore when they fall seriously sick on Covid. I don't think

Then in that case, you need to shut down all flights and the airport if you intend to break any potential infection chain to zero or a transmission with airport workers. 

Actually, I did understand the point from that post on those transfer passengers.

 

The new measure on Omicron by Singapore compared to Delta was: When Delta started in certain countries, Singapore did not pull the string immediately and had allowed various people arriving from those countries into the community in Singapore, that was the danger and started the whole increase of Delta cases in Singapore.

Now, this time around Singapore checked on arrival and separated all people arriving from the problematic regions into immediate isolation.

 

Further, not all countries "detain" such people in a quarantine facility directly like at the National Centre for Infectious Diseases. In many countries this would be already disallowed or would require the consent of the persons concerned

(unless something like Ebola).

 

 

Incubation period is also the most contagious. If the Singapore government refused to impose quarantine for ALL incoming visitors, then I fear this Omicron and other variants will spread like wildfire. The solution is to come up with faster, more sensitive and more reliable test kits.

 

[Guest Guest]

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-05/omicron-s-spread-across-hotel-hall-highlights-transmission-worry 

 

"The omicron variant spread among two fully vaccinated travelers across the hallway of a Hong Kong quarantine hotel, underscoring why the highly mutated coronavirus strain is unnerving health authorities.

 

Closed-circuit television camera footage showed neither person left their room nor had any contact, leaving airborne transmission when respective doors were opened for food collection or Covid testing the most probable mode of spread, researchers at the University of Hong Kong said in a study published Friday in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases." 

 

 

... and yet some really stupid people like the one below can say that concerns relating to the intermingling of the transit passengers are "already outdated" and "red herrings". Troughs of stupidity!  

 

On 12/4/2021 at 6:48 PM, singalion said:

Which means that above Guest post complaining on transit passengers was already outdated and just posting a red herring. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid19-new-cases-moh-dec-5-omicron-sq479-south-africa-flight-2359546 

 

Singapore reports 552 new COVID-19 infections and 13 deaths; 1 more imported case tests positive for Omicron variant

Flight arrived on 1 Dec and yet he was reported to be positive with Omicron only on 5 Dec. How long was he asymptomatic? How about those transit passengers running around the entire transit area in Changi Airport? 

[Guest Human]

On 12/4/2021 at 5:44 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Seriously, just how dense and stupid can you get? 

 

We are talking about the Omicron virus which seems to be even more transmissible than Delta and potentially more fatal as well. So what if you bar transit passengers from those 7 or 10 countries? You mean the other transit passengers from other countries do not run the risk of carrying the virus throughout the transit terminals? 

 

How did the Covid virus first spread in Singapore?? Which one was the first cluster? Wasn't it Changi Airport? Didn't Singapore also banned certain flights at the beginning? And yet, look at how the entire Jewel was shutdown for an extended period of time. And now, history is repeating itself? And you actually think banning transit passengers from those few countries is going to be effective? And this is reacting fast? This is learning something? 

 

You need to be a retard to believe that. 

Why do you think omicron is potentially more fatal than other variants? I am vey much interested to know your thoughts and the research you have done to conclude this. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/6/2021 at 6:33 PM, Guest Human said:

Why do you think omicron is potentially more fatal than other variants? I am vey much interested to know your thoughts and the research you have done to conclude this. 

exactly this! There is literally zero evidence of this abs, in fact, based on current fact that there are zero deaths from the new variant, it may even be less fatal…. 
 

…but guest guest loves to call everybody stupid and panic. I am also not sure why the bunker-dwellers were not asking to close Changi and lockdown Singapore during flu season every year? 

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/6/2021 at 3:36 PM, superflawless said:

Incubation period is also the most contagious. If the Singapore government refused to impose quarantine for ALL incoming visitors, then I fear this Omicron and other variants will spread like wildfire. The solution is to come up with faster, more sensitive and more reliable test kits.

 

 

Then they should add a PCR Test just when you board the plane. For most of the VTL countries the flight timing would be above 6 hours, so test result would be out on landing (but would not work for the East Asia/ South East Asia departure airports.

 

Not sure if the ART tests can be improved. There is always a different approach to the testing and the ART tests open the door for cheating also.

 

Eventually it would help to increase the period of self isolation to 3 days instead of the current "6 - 12 hours" until your PCR test result from the airport on arrival will come in and disallow the free roaming once you passed a negative test and add another PCR on the third day, just to be save, meaning to let the people wait for the second test to be negative also.

 

 

The problem is: Either you continue to open up or you go into another closure of any flights and arrivals, I mean border closures.

It seems at current situation, Singapore is not willing to shut down the airport.

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by singalion

[singalion]

On 12/6/2021 at 6:33 PM, Guest Human said:

Why do you think omicron is potentially more fatal than other variants? I am vey much interested to know your thoughts and the research you have done to conclude this. 

 

On 12/6/2021 at 7:14 PM, Guest Wtf said:

exactly this! There is literally zero evidence of this abs, in fact, based on current fact that there are zero deaths from the new variant, it may even be less fatal…. 
 

…but guest guest loves to call everybody stupid and panic. I am also not sure why the bunker-dwellers were not asking to close Changi and lockdown Singapore during flu season every year? 

 

 

 

Don't take that one Guest Guest so serious.

 

He clearly said, he is just out to troll me by any means. (in the post that was deleted some two days ago).

 

I can write here what I want, he would still find something like a needle in a haystick to attack and troll me.

 

Just ignore him!

 

Don't take anything what he writes serious.

 

 

The consequence of what he put up in his post would be a total closure of Changi airport disallowing any travellers back to Singapore and stopping for any transit of passengers at Changi airport.

 

Sure, any government could do that, but I don't see that the Singapore Government will return back to a total closure of Changi airport and close all borders.

 

By no other means you could assure that Omicron won't end up infecting the community or transit passengers.

 

In fact, as this Guest never leaves his home or ward, I m not sure why he is so concerned.

 

 

Anyhow did you note that this Guest never comes with any proposals or creative inputs, but just adds some silly mustard to the sandwich.

 

[singalion]

The last details on Omicron are this:

 

Early data from South Africa hints Omicron variant may cause less severe Covid, but more research is needed

Dec. 4, 2021

 

As the world waits for studies that give a clear picture of the Omicron variant, early clinical data emerging from South Africa hint at a virus that may cause less severe cases of Covid-19.

 

The South African Medical Research Council posted a report Saturday of the early experiences at several hospitals in Gauteng Province, where Omicron was first spotted in the country. Strikingly, most hospitalized patients who tested positive for Covid did not need supplemental oxygen. Few developed Covid pneumonia, few required high-level care, and fewer still were admitted to intensive care.

 

 

We just have to wait for more reliable information on Omicron.

 

Also note South Africa still has a very low vaccination rate of just 25% (2 vaccinations) of the population.

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

终于还是被攻破......

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/12/singapore-omicron-cases-dec-10/

Edited December 9, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[singalion]

Pfizer study shows booster shot protects against Covid-19 omicron variant

Pfizer has shared that its first two vaccines do not hold up well against the emerging omicron variant. However, the third shot, the booster, provides 25 times the protection against omicron.

 

Dec. 9, 2021

[Guest Guest]

On 12/9/2021 at 10:59 PM, lonelyglobe said:

终于还是被攻破......

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/12/singapore-omicron-cases-dec-10/

OMG, the deadly variant already in community!

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/10/2021 at 10:59 AM, Guest Guest said:

OMG, the deadly variant already in community!

OMG, why don’t you calm down, stop panicking and read more about the variant before calling it deadly? 

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/10/2021 at 10:59 AM, Guest Guest said:

OMG, the deadly variant already in community!

So far it doesnt show that is more deadly but definitely more transmittable, like 2 to 3 times more compare to delta,  so if delta we can have 3000 cases daily then....... 

 

Both new cases are fully vaccinated  with 3 shots but still kena, even if is asymptomatic, what kind of side effects would they have after 3, 6 or 12 months after recovery, remain to be seen. 

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/changi-airport-front-line-staff-to-take-art-daily-for-next-7-days-after-local-omicron-case

 

3 more omicron and 2 are from UK via VTL, vaccinated travel lane became very transmittable lane.

[singalion]

On 12/6/2021 at 6:33 PM, Guest Human said:

Why do you think omicron is potentially more fatal than other variants? I am vey much interested to know your thoughts and the research you have done to conclude this. 

 

Why? Are you planning to travel to the Southern African region?

 

Please google. But great if you post us your conclusions after your own research.

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/11/2021 at 8:46 AM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/changi-airport-front-line-staff-to-take-art-daily-for-next-7-days-after-local-omicron-case

 

3 more omicron and 2 are from UK via VTL, vaccinated travel lane became very transmittable lane.

 

With Johnson in the UK nobody is taking any Covid regulation for serious...

 

Like Australia, south Africans have links to the good old empire...

which means many people travel hence and forth and due to familial ties.

 

 

The risk is there.

What would be the solution?

To disallow any traveling again?

 

The travel industry and linked services are already hit, not sure how many have survived.

I don't think the Singapore government is closing down again.

 

What is required is that the rest of the world get's inoculated asap.

 

Singapore, being a rich country, could contribute also in donating vaccines to poorer regions... Then we all get out faster from the slump.

 

 

 

[singalion]

Another Changi Airport staff among 3 in S'pore who test preliminarily positive for Omicron

The Straits Times , 11 December 2021

 

SINGAPORE - Three more people, including another airport front-line worker, have preliminarily tested positive for the Omicron variant of the virus that causes Covid-19, said the Ministry of Health (MOH) on Friday (Dec 10).

 

The passenger service staff works at the departure gates at Changi Airport Terminal 3. MOH said the 38-year-old did not interact with the three earlier cases.

 

The other two cases are passengers returning from Britain via the same vaccinated travel lane flight on Wednesday.

 

Changi Airport Group told The Straits Times on Friday that it is ramping up precautionary measures at the airport to reduce the spread of the virus. 

 

This includes getting front-line airport staff to take a daily antigen rapid test for the next seven days, on top of their routine testing. 

 

On Thursday, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said two Covid-19 patients here had preliminarily tested positive for the Omicron variant.

 

 

 

One is a 24-year-old passenger service worker at Changi Airport - the first local case here - while the second is an imported case, MOH said.

 

Since the emergence of the new variant - which was designated as a variant of concern by the World Health Organisation at the end of November - Changi Airport has stepped up the personal protective equipment requirements for staff handling transfer passengers, CAG said.

 

It added that the close contacts of the affected worker have been placed under close monitoring.

"Stringent safety protocols continue to be in place at Changi Airport for the health and safety of the airport community," CAG said.

 

"Staff serving passengers in the transit areas are required to be fully vaccinated, and to don the necessary level of personal protective equipment."

 

CAG added that staff in close contact with passengers during their course of work undergo rostered routine testing and take a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test every seven days.

 

Other front-line staff, including those who work in the public areas, are required to take an ART every seven days, it said.

 

"With the evolving Covid-19 pandemic, Changi Airport continues to monitor the situation on the ground closely and adapts its safety measures to protect airport staff," added CAG.

 

The infected employee worked at Changi Airport Terminals 1 and 3.

 

The woman took a Covid-19 test on Dec 8 under the weekly rostered routine testing and her PCR test result revealed traces linked to the Omicron variant, MOH said.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by singalion

[singalion]

Probably the Changi airport needs to figure out to reduce any interaction between arriving passengers and airport staff.

 

There could be also protocol lapses.

 

We are human, we are tired, we might take a mask off in the restroom etc etc...

[Guest Guest]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59639007
Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

And we have VTL with UK

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/13/2021 at 8:16 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59639007
Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

And we have VTL with UK

panic panic!!! Srsly… get a grip 

[Guest Rubbles]

I think it is just okay for the benefit of everyone

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/13/2021 at 8:16 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59639007
Covid: First UK death recorded with Omicron variant

And we have VTL with UK

UK is just one of the many VTL that we had and definitely we are asking for trouble without any quarantine.

 

Qatar imposed a 2 day quarantine for british national arriving and Israel completely banned flights from Britain and Denmark, not to mention China and HKG 21 days of quarantine. 

 

While we may not be able to do that as there are many expats here waiting to go home but definitely we can impose a 3 day quarantine to "catch" as many omicron as possible.

 

The 3 days quarantine hopefully may also deter a lot of cash rich and very free sporean from taking their winter vacation. Have some empathy for our medical staff who have been working so hard for the past 2 years,  if you cant help them, at least dont be an additional burden to them. 

Edited December 13, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Guest]

On 12/13/2021 at 9:33 PM, lonelyglobe said:

UK is just one of the many VTL that we had and definitely we are asking for trouble without any quarantine.

 

Qatar imposed a 2 day quarantine for british national arriving and Israel completely banned flights from Britain and Denmark, not to mention China and HKG 21 days of quarantine. 

 

While we may not be able to do that as there are many expats here waiting to go home but definitely we can impose a 3 day quarantine to "catch" as many omicron as possible.

 

The 3 days quarantine hopefully may also deter a lot of cash rich and very free sporean from taking their winter vacation. Have some empathy for our medical staff who have been working so hard for the past 2 years,  if you cant help them, at least dont be an additional burden to them. 

3 days quarantine is too little, we shouldn't be complacent, there should be at least 21 days quarantine in dedicated facilities to rule out any transmission of omicron in the community.

[Guest Guest]

On 12/13/2021 at 7:15 PM, Guest Wtf said:

panic panic!!! Srsly… get a grip 

Finally you realised that we should fear the virus.

[Guest 21???]

21 days quarantine?

 

make it 100 days...

 

Close all borders also?

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 12:20 AM, Guest Guest said:

Finally you realised that we should fear the virus.

lol

 

1000 day quarantine, complete lockdown, close all borders forever!!!
 

or, you can just get back in your bunker and let everybody else live their lives and manage the (minimal) risk for themselves. 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/14/2021 at 7:46 AM, Guest Wtf said:

lol

 

1000 day quarantine, complete lockdown, close all borders forever!!!
 

or, you can just get back in your bunker and let everybody else live their lives and manage the (minimal) risk for themselves. 

 

Looking at the way the post was written below, it was just a couple weeks ago that someone was ay-OK to go with lockdown in the face of the Omicron virus : 

 

On 11/28/2021 at 4:26 PM, Guest Wtf said:

errr, where’s the karma here?
 

It’s quite logical that people will say that things may need to change as circumstances and facts change during a global pandemic.

 

I am not sure anybody disagrees with adapting like this, other than people like you who have ignored the facts and keep insisting on continuing to lockdown forever and acting as if COVID is a super lethal deadly killer zombie virus, when currently around 98% of cases are mild or asymptomatic. 
 

 

And now, any one (else) suggesting any hints of lockdown gets told to go hide in their bunker? Hey coward, if you really got balls, why don't you go tell this guy to go hide in his bunker when he made the statement 2 weeks ago?  

 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/pm-lee-says-omicron-variant-231502293.html 

 

No wonder people call you prata-man! Hahahahaha! 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/13/2021 at 9:55 PM, Guest 21??? said:

21 days quarantine?

 

make it 100 days...

 

Close all borders also?

 

 

If I had the authority I would have definitely closed the borders. Look at the HK, China and Taiwan, how well they have managed the pandemic.

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

If I had the authority I would have definitely closed the borders. Look at the HK, China and Taiwan, how well they have managed the pandemic.

thank goodness that you have zero authority. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 8:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Looking at the way the post was written below, it was just a couple weeks ago that someone was ay-OK to go with lockdown in the face of the Omicron virus : 

 

 

And now, any one (else) suggesting any hints of lockdown gets told to go hide in their bunker? Hey coward, if you really got balls, why don't you go tell this guy to go hide in his bunker when he made the statement 2 weeks ago?  

 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/pm-lee-says-omicron-variant-231502293.html 

 

No wonder people call you prata-man! Hahahahaha! 

 

 

 

 

my posts and comments are completely consistent - you adapt as facts change, you don’t adapt based on emotions and fear, which is what you are arguing for.
 

None of the facts have changed and nothing about the variant suggests any need for lockdown or even for adapting border measures. When you can show me that it is more deadly and more infectious - which it doesn’t look like so far based on the 1 UK death you have freaked out about - then you can talk about increasing restrictions. 

[Guest Guest]

On 12/14/2021 at 7:53 AM, Guest Wtf said:

my posts and comments are completely consistent - you adapt as facts change, you don’t adapt based on emotions and fear, which is what you are arguing for.
 

None of the facts have changed and nothing about the variant suggests any need for lockdown or even for adapting border measures. When you can show me that it is more deadly and more infectious - which it doesn’t look like so far based on the 1 UK death you have freaked out about - then you can talk about increasing restrictions. 

COVID-19 also started with just 1 case.

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 11:29 AM, Guest Guest said:

COVID-19 also started with just 1 case.

omicron is a variant of covid-19. So we are well beyond being able to stop anything at 1 case by now. 
 

Time to move your thinking on from January 2020. 

[Guest Guest]

whr 2 find total no. of omicron cases here ar

look everywhr in moh site aso cant, rlly v. user unfrdly la

[Guest Guest]

 

On 12/14/2021 at 10:23 AM, Guest Wtf said:

my posts and comments are completely consistent - you adapt as facts change, you don’t adapt based on emotions and fear, which is what you are arguing for.
 

None of the facts have changed and nothing about the variant suggests any need for lockdown or even for adapting border measures. When you can show me that it is more deadly and more infectious - which it doesn’t look like so far based on the 1 UK death you have freaked out about - then you can talk about increasing restrictions. 

 

Your posts and comments are consistent? Only if you are talking about how consistent you are with whatever the MIW has to say; If they say to reopen the economy, you would go rah-rah and sing along with them; but if they want to reconsider taking a few steps back in the reopening of the economy, you will also go rah-rah and sing along with them. 

 

So, yes, your posts and your comments are definitely consistent there!  

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/14/2021 at 1:16 PM, Guest Guest said:

whr 2 find total no. of omicron cases here ar

look everywhr in moh site aso cant, rlly v. user unfrdly la

I think 5, 2 are airport staff, 2 from UK and 1 from Germany, all are fully vaccinated with 2 or 3 jabs. There are also a few transit pax kena.

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

If I had the authority I would have definitely closed the borders. Look at the HK, China and Taiwan, how well they have managed the pandemic.

SG          273,701

Taiwan   16,742

HK          12,491

 

Looks bad but they say we must compare with the worst countries:

 

USA       51,018,282

India      34,703,644

 

China published number 99,856 but "actual" number will always remain as a mystery.

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 1:20 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

 

Your posts and comments are consistent? Only if you are talking about how consistent you are with whatever the MIW has to say; If they say to reopen the economy, you would go rah-rah and sing along with them; but if they want to reconsider taking a few steps back in the reopening of the economy, you will also go rah-rah and sing along with them. 

 

So, yes, your posts and your comments are definitely consistent there!  

Your inability to understand data and think in any depth are the reasons why you are struggling so much with covid.  This inability shows in the simplistic conclusion you have come to about my politics.  
 

I can’t wave a magic wand to make you more intelligent or make covid go away, unfortunately, so I think better to leave you to see if you can work it out for yourself and stop panicking sometime before the pandemic is over, as no facts shared have made a single difference to your thinking. 
 

Good luck to you, I will now start early my new year’s resolution to not try and educate or argue with people online, because it is a complete waste of my time. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:08 PM, lonelyglobe said:

SG          273,701

Taiwan   16,742

HK          12,491

 

Looks bad but they say we must compare with the worst countries:

 

USA       51,018,282

India      34,703,644

 

China published number 99,856 but "actual" number will always remain as a mystery.

 

 

there is little point comparing any countries and declaring any winners until the pandemic is actually over, because who did better or worse will not be clear until then. This is the score with a lot of the game still to go. 

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:11 PM, Guest Wtf said:

there is little point comparing any countries and declaring any winners until the pandemic is actually over, because who did better or worse will not be clear until then. This is the score with a lot of the game still to go. 

Agreed,  is like watching a football match,  half time can be 8 - 0, but maybe, maybe the score will change at the final whistle, so lets continue watching.... 

[lonelyglobe]

On 12/14/2021 at 1:56 PM, lonelyglobe said:

I think 5, 2 are airport staff, 2 from UK and 1 from Germany, all are fully vaccinated with 2 or 3 jabs. There are also a few transit pax kena.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-preparing-for-omicron-wave-will-expand-vaccination-differentiated-rules-to

 

Correction,  is 16 omicron case,  14 imported and 2 airport staff, dont know since when the figure just quietly jump out,  dont seem to have so many reported on the news, looks like this VTL - very transmissible lane really very power. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[sgmaven]

On 10/5/2021 at 2:47 PM, HendryTan said:

I just DELETED another bunch of ANTI-VAXXER POSTs.

 

To those Members / Guest

Please do NOT come here with your Propaganda  and/or stir shit.

We will do the necessary (block, delete, suspend, ban)

 

 

 

 

There is a particular member who loves to post his right-wing anti-vax propaganda on his own profile. Why don't you tackle that too?

[singalion]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

If I had the authority I would have definitely closed the borders. Look at the HK, China and Taiwan, how well they have managed the pandemic.

 

Really?

 

Do you also read news ?

 

under control? well managed? 😂

 

Some companies suspend production in Zhejiang, as China's Covid-19 cases rise

• Dec 13, 2021, 11:22 am

SHANGHAI (REUTERS) - More than a dozen Chinese-listed companies have said they had suspended production in coronavirus-hit parts of China's eastern Zhejiang province in response to local government's Covid-19 curbs.

Zhejiang reported a total of 173 locally transmitted cases with confirmed symptoms during the Dec 6 to 12 period, official numbers showed on Monday (Dec 13), marking the province's first domestic cluster outbreak this year.

 

All the companies that announced a halt to production vowed to fully cooperate with the local government, which will decide when production can be resumed.

China reported 101 new confirmed coronavirus cases for Dec 12, compared with 75 a day earlier, its health authority said on Monday.

 

Of the new infections, 80 were locally transmitted, according to a statement by the National Health Commission, compared with 49 a day earlier.

 

The new local cases were reported by the authorities in the provinces of Zhejiang and Shaanxi and the northern Chinese region of Inner Mongolia.

China reports 75 new coronavirus cases on Dec 11 vs 87 a day earlier

• Dec 12, 2021, 3:06 pm SGT

BEIJING (REUTERS) - China reported 75 new coronavirus cases on the mainland for Saturday (Dec 11), down from 87 cases a day earlier, the country's health authority said on Sunday.

Of the new infections, 49 were local, compared with 51 a day earlier, the National Health Commission said in a statement.

 

Thirty-eight local cases were identified in the eastern province of Zhejiang, 10 in the northern province of Inner Mongolia and one in Heilongjiang.

 

China reported 20 new asymptomatic patients, which China does not classify as confirmed cases, down from 30 a day earlier.

 

[singalion]

On 12/14/2021 at 2:08 PM, lonelyglobe said:

SG          273,701

Taiwan   16,742

HK          12,491

 

Looks bad but they say we must compare with the worst countries:

 

USA       51,018,282

India      34,703,644

 

China published number 99,856 but "actual" number will always remain as a mystery.

 

 

 

The total numbers are not conclusive. should work with infections per 100,000 numbers instead.

 

Singapore at 9.6

 

[singalion]

On 12/14/2021 at 8:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/pm-lee-says-omicron-variant-231502293.html 

 

Looking at the way the post was written below, it was just a couple weeks ago that someone was ay-OK to go with lockdown in the face of the Omicron virus : 

And now, any one (else) suggesting any hints of lockdown gets told to go hide in their bunker? Hey coward, if you really got balls, why don't you go tell this guy to go hide in his bunker when he made the statement 2 weeks ago?  

 

No wonder people call you prata-man! Hahahahaha! 

 

 

the PM speech was on 28 Nov when the first cases of Omicron bumped up and nobody had any data but just saw rising infections in Southern African countries...

 

Now it is 16 days later...

 

Where are the curbs??????????????

 

[sgmaven]

Just face it, the government wants to open up ahead of Christmas and the New Year. Unless people are clogging up the hospitals, there will be no about-turn...

[singalion]

On 12/14/2021 at 6:44 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-preparing-for-omicron-wave-will-expand-vaccination-differentiated-rules-to

Correction,  is 16 omicron case,  14 imported and 2 airport staff, dont know since when the figure just quietly jump out,  dont seem to have so many reported on the news, looks like this VTL - very transmissible lane really very power. 

 

I regret to correct you:

 

The news did not say that the 16 cases were all from VTL flights/Malaysia VTL buses.

 

Please remain accurate in your posts.

 

Singaporeans and PRs can enter Singapore without travelling by VTL but then need to do the applicable SHN quarantine.

 

There are also non VTL flights from plenty of countries into Singapore.

 

S'pore braces itself for Omicron wave: More ICU beds, more places open to only those vaccinated

There have been 16 Omicron cases detected in Singapore to date, comprising 14 imported cases and two local cases who are airport passenger service staff.

 

 

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20211214-1223097

 

另14起输入病例的来源国包括美国、英国、法国、德国、芬兰、印度、迪拜、阿拉伯联合酋长国、卡塔尔、尼日利亚、莫桑比克和南非。他们多数在接受抵境检测时发现染疫。其中一人在指定设施隔离期间确诊，另一人则在自我隔离期间确诊，他的家属检测结果均为阴性。

I dont understand why is the african countries even in the list,  i tot already ban them?

Edited December 14, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[sgmaven]

On 12/14/2021 at 10:04 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20211214-1223097

 

另14起输入病例的来源国包括美国、英国、法国、德国、芬兰、印度、迪拜、阿拉伯联合酋长国、卡塔尔、尼日利亚、莫桑比克和南非。他们多数在接受抵境检测时发现染疫。其中一人在指定设施隔离期间确诊，另一人则在自我隔离期间确诊，他的家属检测结果均为阴性。

I dont understand why is the african countries even in the list,  i tot already ban them?

Can be returning Singaporeans or PRs

[Guest Wtf]

 

On 12/14/2021 at 9:49 PM, singalion said:

 

I regret to correct you:

 

The news did not say that the 16 cases were all from VTL flights/Malaysia VTL buses.

 

 

And who said the 16 cases were all from VTL flights/Malaysia VTL buses? And who needs you to correct anybody? You definitely have something wrong with either your eyes or your brain! 

[Guest The Usual]

Sign of imported cases going up.  Singaporeans will be blamed again.   Check for daily update.  

[singalion]

On 12/14/2021 at 6:44 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Correction,  is 16 omicron case,  14 imported and 2 airport staff, dont know since when the figure just quietly jump out,  dont seem to have so many reported on the news, looks like this VTL - very transmissible lane really very power. 

 

Who has reading problems is obvious certainly not me. 

 

Did someone link these cases to the VTL or not?

 

Go and brawl with someone else...

 

And I don't think the post was made from the real Guest WTF...