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On 2/11/2022 at 5:56 PM, Guest Guest said:

Wait wtf will ask you “what point are you trying to make?” …. 😅


why not just answer the question I asked you? Here it is again: what will you do after the CB you keep asking for? 😂 

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On 2/11/2022 at 7:07 PM, Guest Wtf said:


why not just answer the question I asked you? Here it is again: what will you do after the CB you keep asking for? 😂 

Cases will drop to 0 if there is a strict lockdown + border closure. Then we can open up locally since there is no virus, for borders we should have 3-week quarantine for incoming travelers.

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On 2/11/2022 at 8:30 PM, Guest Guest said:

Cases will drop to 0 if there is a strict lockdown + border closure. Then we can open up locally since there is no virus, for borders we should have 3-week quarantine for incoming travelers.


how are any goods imported into Singapore with 3 week quarantine? Or are they delivered by robots? 

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On 2/7/2022 at 7:06 PM, singalion said:

I gave a response to that already.

With TraceTogether, was there very much manpower any longer needed to do contract tracing.

 

It seems that there isn't enough manpower to look at the data collected through TraceTogether at all and identify the close contacts.

 

Going back:

Maybe you did not get the hint in my posts on this, but I think parts if not the majority of the SAF should have been re-allocated to assist in these tasks.

 

Looking back at my national service, at least there had been something fruitful to do instead of the 90% of killing of time or waiting for Friday....

From that angle most would have been motivated to work in such areas, instead of hanging on the bunk beds and playing the phone...

 

Employing more people to do these tasks of contract tracing would have been very costly as well.

 

Do you really think there were so many people involved as Social Distancing Ambassadors???

 

 

 

 

 

Army to deploy 100 soldiers to national call centre to help cope with Omicron surge

 

 

 
11 FEB 2022, 2:39 PM SGT
 

SINGAPORE - The Singapore Army will deploy about 100 soldiers to help deal with the surge of Omicron cases here.

 

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On 2/12/2022 at 5:41 AM, singalion said:

 

 

Army to deploy 100 soldiers to national call centre to help cope with Omicron surge

 

 

 
11 FEB 2022, 2:39 PM SGT
 

SINGAPORE - The Singapore Army will deploy about 100 soldiers to help deal with the surge of Omicron cases here.

 


this is exactly why they need to simplify all the protocols and processes. 

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On 2/11/2022 at 7:07 PM, Guest Wtf said:


why not just answer the question I asked you? Here it is again: what will you do after the CB you keep asking for? 😂 

 

What will people do after the CB? You mean to say you are pushing for the re-opening of the economy simply because you do NOT know what people will do after the CB? How about they continue to LIVE happily together after the CB, like those people in the pictures below? And you need people to answer that question that you asked???

 

But of course you wouldn't know the answer, would you? You were raised by dogs and bitches, so you only know the importance of MONEY instead of human life. 

 

How is THAT for an answer? Why don't you go ask the same question to all those people who has family members who died of COVID due to the re-opening of the economy, just so that people like you can earn your money, and the Indians can have all their VTLs to come into Singapore.  

 

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On 2/12/2022 at 7:40 AM, Guest Wtf said:


this is exactly why they need to simplify all the protocols and processes. 

 

Yes, and of course to you, the best is not to have any protocols and processes in place, right?

As long as every single VTLs can remain open and you get to earn your money, everything is GOOD, right? 

Who cares about who is to die because of COVID, right?

YOU don't care and nobody else should, right?  

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On 2/12/2022 at 5:41 AM, singalion said:

 

 

Army to deploy 100 soldiers to national call centre to help cope with Omicron surge

 

 

 
11 FEB 2022, 2:39 PM SGT
 

SINGAPORE - The Singapore Army will deploy about 100 soldiers to help deal with the surge of Omicron cases here.

 

Also from the article you mentioned... "They will beef up the national call centre to provide guidance, answer queries and reassure COVID-19 patients in the weeks ahead,” Mr Ng said.

 

The 100 soldiers are just there to pacify the public.

 

Do note that except during the peak of the Delta wave, the death rate from COVID-19 in Singapore is now (even with all the vaccinated people) higher than during the initial outbreak and before the vaccines were even available.

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:11 AM, sgmaven said:

Also from the article you mentioned... "They will beef up the national call centre to provide guidance, answer queries and reassure COVID-19 patients in the weeks ahead,” Mr Ng said.

 

The 100 soldiers are just there to pacify the public.

 

Do note that except during the peak of the Delta wave, the death rate from COVID-19 in Singapore is now (even with all the vaccinated people) higher than during the initial outbreak and before the vaccines were even available.


Do you mean death rate or death toll? Got any figures to share?

 

tbh, how is it surprising to you that there were less deaths when we were in lockdown? 


 

 

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On 2/12/2022 at 9:27 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

What will people do after the CB? You mean to say you are pushing for the re-opening of the economy simply because you do NOT know what people will do after the CB? How about they continue to LIVE happily together after the CB, like those people in the pictures below? And you need people to answer that question that you asked???

 

But of course you wouldn't know the answer, would you? You were raised by dogs and bitches, so you only know the importance of MONEY instead of human life. 

 

How is THAT for an answer? Why don't you go ask the same question to all those people who has family members who died of COVID due to the re-opening of the economy, just so that people like you can earn your money, and the Indians can have all their VTLs to come into Singapore.  

 

Portrait Of Happy Smiling Asian Grandparents And Grandson. Stock Photo,  Picture And Royalty Free Image. Image 67988964.

 

 

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How to Address Family Members in Mandarin Chinese

 

 


so, indeed, you have no answer

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:30 AM, Guest Wtf said:


Do you mean death rate or death toll? Got any figures to share?

 

tbh, how is it surprising to you that there were less deaths when we were in lockdown? 


 

 

 

Strange, you always question others on what they post here or command to do something, request to give evidence, but you yourself rarely substantiate anything but just claim.  

 

The numbers are published on MOH 's website.

 

You can look it up yourself. 

 

Your second quest with a bit of logic you can also answer for yourself. 

 

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:31 AM, Guest Wtf said:


so, indeed, you have no answer

 

So, indeed, fewer COVID deaths and more people continuing to stay alive after the CB, is not an answer for you. 

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:42 AM, singalion said:

 

Strange, you always question others on what they post here or command to do something, request to give evidence, but you yourself rarely substantiate anything but just claim.  

 

The numbers are published on MOH 's website.

 

You can look it up yourself. 

 

Your second quest with a bit of logic you can also answer for yourself. 

 


strange how people who are sloppy in posting inaccurate statements and assertions without evidence are then upset when they are called out for it. I post links from credible sources to back up any claims I make.


Why is it for me to do the work for you? If you make claims, it is your job to substantiate them, not mine. 
 

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:46 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

So, indeed, fewer COVID deaths and more people continuing to stay alive after the CB, is not an answer for you. 

How is that an answer to what you would do after the CB you keep asking for? It is a REALLY simple question and you are totally incapable of answering it. 

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:30 AM, Guest Wtf said:


Do you mean death rate or death toll? Got any figures to share?

 

tbh, how is it surprising to you that there were less deaths when we were in lockdown? 


 

 

Number of deaths now is higher, even after our lockdown. It was only higher during the Delta wave in Singapore, which was after most of us got our vaccinations.

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On 2/12/2022 at 12:59 PM, sgmaven said:

Number of deaths now is higher, even after our lockdown. It was only higher during the Delta wave in Singapore, which was after most of us got our vaccinations.


yes but this is because the number of cases is now proportionately significantly higher. The death rate (%) and rate of severe illness has reduced significantly with omicron, which is why many counties are now treating covid more like flu. 

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On 2/12/2022 at 11:48 AM, Guest Wtf said:

How is that an answer to what you would do after the CB you keep asking for? It is a REALLY simple question and you are totally incapable of answering it. 

 

How is that not an answer to what we would do after the CB?

 

The entire reason why we have the lockdown and the CB was to prevent further spread of COVID, and thereby reducing the number of COVID deaths. In the meantime, we buy all the needed time we can so that someone can come up with a permanent solution to the virus. And I am not talking about your idea of this "permanent solution" to re-open the economy as wide as possible, so that everyone can be infected with the virus, and invite death into each and every door and every household, and culling off human beings as part of the "survival of the fittest" game which you think we are in.

 

And all these human culling is just for you to earn your money and allow more CECA to come into Singapore via their VTLs. Look at New Zealand with their 53 Covid deaths and their 19,777 total covid cases since the start of the pandemic. Yes, they are having a "surge" now, but compare their "surge" to Singapore's 10k cases a day, and yet we have people like you telling us that Singapore is doing "well". 

 

And the best part is this: When others are wishing for the deaths to happen in YOUR own family, you started crying father crying mother and played victim by telling everyone how "mean" others are towards you. In fact, it is YOU who has been wishing deaths upon every single Singaporeans in the country by pushing for the almost-complete removal of each and every single restrictions, such as the "further simplification of the processes" etc.

 

Not-In-My-Backyard (NIMBY) mentality much?? What a hypocrite!  

 

So what do we do after the CB? We go on to live for the rest of our natural lives to the fullest as far as we can, together with each and every one of our family members, old and young. But this is something which I hope you do not get to enjoy.    

 

It is a REALLY simple answer, and yet, you are totally incapable of understanding it. 

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On 2/12/2022 at 1:17 PM, Guest Wtf said:


yes but this is because the number of cases is now proportionately significantly higher. The death rate (%) and rate of severe illness has reduced significantly with omicron, which is why many counties are now treating covid more like flu. 

 

Oh... so now, COVID is like the "flu"? Anything to undermine the seriousness of the situation, as long as it suits your narrative, right?  What's next? Singaporean lives are dispensable, so Singaporeans can die to make way for foreigners? 

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On 2/12/2022 at 1:53 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

How is that not an answer to what we would do after the CB?

 

The entire reason why we have the lockdown and the CB was to prevent further spread of COVID, and thereby reducing the number of COVID deaths. In the meantime, we buy all the needed time we can so that someone can come up with a permanent solution to the virus. And I am not talking about your idea of this "permanent solution" to re-open the economy as wide as possible, so that everyone can be infected with the virus, and invite death into each and every door and every household, and culling off human beings as part of the "survival of the fittest" game which you think we are in.

 

And all these human culling is just for you to earn your money and allow more CECA to come into Singapore via their VTLs. Look at New Zealand with their 53 Covid deaths and their 19,777 total covid cases since the start of the pandemic. Yes, they are having a "surge" now, but compare their "surge" to Singapore's 10k cases a day, and yet we have people like you telling us that Singapore is doing "well". 

 

And the best part is this: When others are wishing for the deaths to happen in YOUR own family, you started crying father crying mother and played victim by telling everyone how "mean" others are towards you. In fact, it is YOU who has been wishing deaths upon every single Singaporeans in the country by pushing for the almost-complete removal of each and every single restrictions, such as the "further simplification of the processes" etc.

 

Not-In-My-Backyard (NIMBY) mentality much?? What a hypocrite!  

 

So what do we do after the CB? We go on to live for the rest of our natural lives to the fullest as far as we can, together with each and every one of our family members, old and young. But this is something which I hope you do not get to enjoy.    

 

It is a REALLY simple answer, and yet, you are totally incapable of understanding it. 

 

On 2/12/2022 at 1:58 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Oh... so now, COVID is like the "flu"? Anything to undermine the seriousness of the situation, as long as it suits your narrative, right?  What's next? Singaporean lives are dispensable, so Singaporeans can die to make way for foreigners? 


There are too many disjointed and incoherent points and too many errors in your comprehension skills shown in your posts for me to be bothered to reply in any detail. So I will just say thanks for all the lolz and comedy you bring to this thread.

 

maybe you can choose kpkb as your guest name? 

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On 2/12/2022 at 1:17 PM, Guest Wtf said:


yes but this is because the number of cases is now proportionately significantly higher. The death rate (%) and rate of severe illness has reduced significantly with omicron, which is why many counties are now treating covid more like flu. 

 

 

Omicron Death Rate Higher Than During Delta Surge

Feb. 9, 2022

 

With the Omicron variant now accounting for almost 100% of COVID-19 cases in the United States, the seven-day average of daily COVID-related deaths hit 2,600 recently, the highest rate in about a year,The Washington Post reported.

That’s higher than the approximately 2,000 daily deaths last autumn during the Delta surge, but less than the 3,000 daily deaths last January, when COVID vaccines were not widely available, The Post data analysis said.

 

The unvaccinated, people over 75, and people with underlying medical conditions are the groups most endangered by Omicron, The Post said. About half of the deaths in January 2022 were among people over 75, compared to about a third in September during the Delta surge.

 

The age trend is seen in Florida, said Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida College of Public Health. He told The Post that seniors accounted for about 85% of deaths last winter, about 60% during the Delta surge, and about 80% now during the Omicron surge.

“Omicron may be less severe for younger people, but it will still find vulnerable seniors in our community,” Salemi said.

 

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On 2/11/2022 at 3:12 PM, Guest Guest said:

Another CB is needed to bring down the cases.


Yes, a CB set of restrictions is needed to drastically bring down the cases. 10,000+ cases a day is no joke. It will put strain on our healthcare and reduce productivity in SG with more people calling in sick with covid. 

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On 2/11/2022 at 8:30 PM, Guest Guest said:

Cases will drop to 0 if there is a strict lockdown + border closure. Then we can open up locally since there is no virus, for borders we should have 3-week quarantine for incoming travelers.


Indeed, we should impose 3weeks or 4weeks for high risk countries at supervised quarantine facilities for incoming travellers. VTLs should be suspended indefinitely. 
 

Locally, we should stop dine-in and allow take away only, make work from home by default, stop alcohol sales by 8pm, stop massage, facial, padicure, manicures, reduce pax limit at gyms and mass events. 

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On 2/12/2022 at 2:24 PM, Guest Wtf said:

 


There are too many disjointed and incoherent points and too many errors in your comprehension skills shown in your posts for me to be bothered to reply in any detail. So I will just say thanks for all the lolz and comedy you bring to this thread.

 

maybe you can choose kpkb as your guest name? 

 

 

Well, I will also also say thanks for all the lolz and comedy in your feigning of ignorance and the retarded act of stupidity, each time it is highlighted how the number of COVID-deaths rose, due to the reckless re-opening of the economy. But sadly, trying to sweep such facts under the carpet and making people laugh will not be sufficient to bring back those dead. 

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Just a few months ago in September: "People need to act to avoid Covid-19 cases rising to 3,200 cases daily: Ong Ye Kung"

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/people-need-to-act-to-avoid-covid-19-cases-doubling-to-3200-cases-daily-ong-ye-kung 

 

 

And after all the reckless re-opening of the economy and one day back: "Omicron is highly transmissible, so reaching 15,000 to 20,000 infections or more (a day) is within our expectations": 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/recent-surge-in-covid-19-cases-not-unexpected-ong-ye-kung

 

 

Maybe a few months later from now: "Singaporeans can drop dead from COVID for all I care: Politician ABC"

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 10:10 AM, Guest Laulan said:

Busy with budget

 

You mean busy whitewashing how GST is going to help the (foreign) people and social infrastructure (overseas) especially during our current time of inflation. 

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On 2/13/2022 at 8:48 AM, Guest Guest said:

Just a few months ago in September: "People need to act to avoid Covid-19 cases rising to 3,200 cases daily: Ong Ye Kung"

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/people-need-to-act-to-avoid-covid-19-cases-doubling-to-3200-cases-daily-ong-ye-kung 

 

 

And after all the reckless re-opening of the economy and one day back: "Omicron is highly transmissible, so reaching 15,000 to 20,000 infections or more (a day) is within our expectations": 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/recent-surge-in-covid-19-cases-not-unexpected-ong-ye-kung

 

 

Maybe a few months later from now: "Singaporeans can drop dead from COVID for all I care: Politician ABC"

 

This loser is the one who compare SG covid death rate to the top 3 death rate countries worldwide, using that same logic, SG is doing very well in controling the spread, we only got 10, 000 cases daily, dont have 100,000 or 200,0000 cases per day as reported elsewhere. 

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New local Covid-19 cases in Singapore triple to 13,046; 6 more deaths reported

Published 4 Feb 2022,

SINGAPORE - The number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore has tripled, with 13,046 cases reported as at noon on Friday (Feb 4).

There were 4,087 cases reported on Thursday.

Six more people died of Covid-19.

7,639 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore; 1,074 patients hospitalised

 
Published 6 Feb 2022, 10:02 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - The total number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore fell to 7,639 on Sunday (Feb 6), down from 10,208 the day before.

However, the number of people hospitalised with Covid-19 rose to 1,074 cases, up six from the 1,068 cases on Saturday, said the Ministry of Health in its daily update.

Three more people died of Covid-19, up from the two deaths reported on Saturday

 

7,629 new local Covid-19 cases in Singapore; 1,165 patients hospitalised

Published 7 Feb 2022,

SINGAPORE - There were 91 more patients hospitalised with Covid-19 on Monday (Feb 7), bringing the number to 1,165, from 1,074 the day before.

However, the number of new locally transmitted cases fell to 7,629 from 7,639 the day before, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update.

This is the third day in a row hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said on Monday.

 

Number of new local Covid-19 cases rises to 12,791 in S'pore; 1,194 patients hospitalised

 

Published 8 Feb 2022, 10:46 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - The total number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore rose to 12,791 on Tuesday (Feb 8), up from 7,629 the day before.

There were 29 more patients hospitalised with Covid-19, bringing the number to 1,194, up from 1,165 on Monday, said the Ministry of Health in its daily update.

This is the fourth day in a row hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

 

New local Covid-19 cases in Singapore drop to 10,175; patients hospitalised increase to 1,205

 
Published 9 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - There were 1,205 hospitalised Covid-19 cases on Wednesday (Feb 9), with 30 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU).

Four people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

 

10,542 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore; 1,212 patients hospitalised and 1 death

Published 10 Feb 2022, 10:15 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - A total of 1,212 people with Covid-19 were hospitalised on Thursday (Feb 10), up from the 1,205 cases the day before.

One person died, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update.

 

9,771 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore, 1,205 patients in hospitals

Published 11 Feb 2022, 10:01 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - There were 1,205 hospitalised Covid-19 cases on Friday (Feb 11), with 21 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU).

This is the seventh day in a row that hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark. On Thursday, there were 1,212 Covid-19 cases in hospital, with 29 patients in the ICU.

The Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update that 128 people required oxygen support, up from 115 people on Thursday.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

S'pore reports 10,325 new local Covid-19 cases, 1,206 patients hospitalised

Published   12 Feb 2022, 11:09 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - A total of 1,206 patients in Singapore were hospitalised with Covid-19 on Saturday (Feb 12), up from the 1,205 cases the day before. This is the eighth day in a row that hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

There were eight new deaths, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said. There were also 22 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). The Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update that 151 people required oxygen support, up from 128 people on Friday.

Meanwhile, the number of new locally transmitted cases rose to 10,325, from 9,771 the day before.

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:06 PM, singalion said:

 

New local Covid-19 cases in Singapore triple to 13,046; 6 more deaths reported

Published 4 Feb 2022,

SINGAPORE - The number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore has tripled, with 13,046 cases reported as at noon on Friday (Feb 4).

There were 4,087 cases reported on Thursday.

Six more people died of Covid-19.

7,639 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore; 1,074 patients hospitalised

 
Published 6 Feb 2022, 10:02 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - The total number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore fell to 7,639 on Sunday (Feb 6), down from 10,208 the day before.

However, the number of people hospitalised with Covid-19 rose to 1,074 cases, up six from the 1,068 cases on Saturday, said the Ministry of Health in its daily update.

Three more people died of Covid-19, up from the two deaths reported on Saturday

 

7,629 new local Covid-19 cases in Singapore; 1,165 patients hospitalised

Published 7 Feb 2022,

SINGAPORE - There were 91 more patients hospitalised with Covid-19 on Monday (Feb 7), bringing the number to 1,165, from 1,074 the day before.

However, the number of new locally transmitted cases fell to 7,629 from 7,639 the day before, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update.

This is the third day in a row hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said on Monday.

 

Number of new local Covid-19 cases rises to 12,791 in S'pore; 1,194 patients hospitalised

 

Published 8 Feb 2022, 10:46 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - The total number of locally transmitted Covid-19 cases in Singapore rose to 12,791 on Tuesday (Feb 8), up from 7,629 the day before.

There were 29 more patients hospitalised with Covid-19, bringing the number to 1,194, up from 1,165 on Monday, said the Ministry of Health in its daily update.

This is the fourth day in a row hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

 

New local Covid-19 cases in Singapore drop to 10,175; patients hospitalised increase to 1,205

 
Published 9 Feb 2022, 10:23 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - There were 1,205 hospitalised Covid-19 cases on Wednesday (Feb 9), with 30 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU).

Four people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

 

10,542 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore; 1,212 patients hospitalised and 1 death

Published 10 Feb 2022, 10:15 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - A total of 1,212 people with Covid-19 were hospitalised on Thursday (Feb 10), up from the 1,205 cases the day before.

One person died, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update.

 

9,771 new local Covid-19 cases in S'pore, 1,205 patients in hospitals

Published 11 Feb 2022, 10:01 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - There were 1,205 hospitalised Covid-19 cases on Friday (Feb 11), with 21 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU).

This is the seventh day in a row that hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark. On Thursday, there were 1,212 Covid-19 cases in hospital, with 29 patients in the ICU.

The Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update that 128 people required oxygen support, up from 115 people on Thursday.

Three people died of Covid-19, MOH said.

S'pore reports 10,325 new local Covid-19 cases, 1,206 patients hospitalised

Published   12 Feb 2022, 11:09 pm SGT

SINGAPORE - A total of 1,206 patients in Singapore were hospitalised with Covid-19 on Saturday (Feb 12), up from the 1,205 cases the day before. This is the eighth day in a row that hospitalisation numbers have crossed the 1,000 mark.

There were eight new deaths, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said. There were also 22 patients in the intensive care unit (ICU). The Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its daily update that 151 people required oxygen support, up from 128 people on Friday.

Meanwhile, the number of new locally transmitted cases rose to 10,325, from 9,771 the day before.

 

Bro, we can read from the news. What is your intention or purpose for posting this?

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Alert to all Members:

 

Reminder to all:

 

Do not entertain the Guest who can only argue with pointing to Free Trade Agreements and claiming all faults and wrongs on foreigners.

 

More Singaporeans and PRs have used the VTLs or returned to Singapore than foreign tourists.

Numbers may change in consideration of the Malaysian PRs, who travelled to Malaysia.

 

As soon as this denigrating word for that one single Free Trade Agreement of a country with the second biggest population of the world turns up in an insulting intention, the Moderators should delete these posts away. 

 

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:13 PM, singalion said:

Alert to all Members:

 

Reminder to all:

 

Do not entertain the Guest who can only argue with pointing to Free Trade Agreements and claiming all faults and wrongs on foreigners.

 

More Singaporeans and PRs have used the VTLs or returned to Singapore than foreign tourists.

Numbers may change in consideration of the Malaysian PRs, who travelled to Malaysia.

 

As soon as this denigrating word for that one single Free Trade Agreement of a country with the second biggest population of the world turns up in an insulting intention, the Moderators should delete these posts away. 

 

 


finally, something we can agree on 

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On 2/12/2022 at 10:59 PM, Guest Wide Berth said:


Indeed, we should impose 3weeks or 4weeks for high risk countries at supervised quarantine facilities for incoming travellers. VTLs should be suspended indefinitely. 
 

Locally, we should stop dine-in and allow take away only, make work from home by default, stop alcohol sales by 8pm, stop massage, facial, padicure, manicures, reduce pax limit at gyms and mass events. 


seriously?! Under what conditions would you ever then re-start dine in and all the other things you want to stop? And how are goods - you know, stuff like food - going to be delivered into Singapore under your plan? 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:33 PM, Guest Wtf said:


seriously?! Under what conditions would you ever then re-start dine in and all the other things you want to stop? And how are goods - you know, stuff like food - going to be delivered into Singapore under your plan? 

Why need to re-start dine-in? Even takeaways should be closed too. Food deliveries should be closed too, what if the delivery riders get infected with the deadly virus which has 0.03% chances of death and 0.04% chances of being in ICU !!!!

 

Why do you want goods to be delivered to Singapore from other countries? Didn't you read in the news that omicron spread in China from a postal mail from Canada? Why can't we live like hermits? 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:41 PM, Guest Fuck covid said:

Why need to re-start dine-in? Even takeaways should be closed too. Food deliveries should be closed too, what if the delivery riders get infected with the deadly virus which has 0.03% chances of death and 0.04% chances of being in ICU !!!!

 

Why do you want goods to be delivered to Singapore from other countries? Didn't you read in the news that omicron spread in China from a postal mail from Canada? Why can't we live like hermits? 


exactly! Let’s turn Singapore into one huge Covid-proof bunker and live on whatever hydroponic lettuce and temasek rice we can manage to grow. There are still some jungle fowl roaming around, so first ones to catch these can also eat well for the first week or so! 


we won’t need businesses (because economy = bad) because we can just have a barter economy, where those who already have most can continue to do so and anyone who might have tried in life to earn just a little bit more can now trade what little they have for daily art test kits. Changi airport can be a quarantine zone for anyone so ‘irresponsible’ that they get infected - they can stand under the rain vortex at Jewel until cleansed of evil.
 

And straits times can print an up to the minute case tracker, so we can all count down to zero cases in the new utopia. Halleloo! 


What happens when we got to zero? Nobody knows…

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Vaccinated patients less likely to need critical care during Omicron surge

New study compares hospitalizations during Omicron and Delta variant surges

Date:
February 11, 2022
Source:
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
Summary:
A new study of COVID-19 patients who had the Omicron variant of the disease shows that vaccinated adults had less severe illness than unvaccinated adults and were less likely to land in intensive care.

 

Investigators also found that during the omicron period fewer patients died while hospitalized (4.0%), compared with those admitted when the delta variant was dominant (8.3%).

 

"In addition to the protection that vaccination offered people admitted to the hospital when omicron dominated, we saw that the addition of a booster dose appeared to be particularly important in reducing the severity of illness, especially among older adults," said Peter Chen, MD, senior author of the study and director of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine at Cedars-Sinai.

"Unvaccinated patients hospitalized with COVID-19 during the omicron variant dominance still had a higher chance of being admitted with serious complications and appeared to be at higher risk for the development of respiratory failure, compared with vaccinated patients," said Chen, who holds the Medallion Chair in Molecular Medicine and is a professor of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences.

 

 

Large numbers of hospitalizations during the pandemic have strained health systems throughout the country. Vaccination, including a booster dose for those who are fully vaccinated, remains critical for mitigating the risk of severe illness associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection.

 

"A clear pattern emerges if you take just the omicron-period patients and compare their vaccination status against the percentage of them who ended up in the ICU. The more vaccinated someone is-from unvaccinated, partially vaccinated, fully vaccinated without a booster dose to fully vaccinated with a booster dose?the better the outcome for the patient," said Michael Melgar, MD, a co-first author of the study and a medical officer with the CDC.

 
 

 

 

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/02/220211080626.htm

 

 

A more scientific research confirming certain points. Unfortunately, it is just a summary and details cannot be accessed online.

 

 

But it confirms what I had been posting all the while on BW:

 

Just get vaccinated up to booster asap.

Those who refuse getting vaccinated take a risk to their life.

 

As the research only covers hospitalised patients, there is no conclusive material on the death ratio.

 

However, 4 % of all hospitalised may give indication that we need to face more deaths the coming weeks.

 

 

Note: The article or my post should not be taken for those Guest trolls to play down the impact of Omicron.

 

 

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Spreading version of Omicron resists all but one drug; T cell defense vs Omicron deficient in some

February 12, 2022

 

Feb 11 (Reuters) - The following is a summary of some recent studies on COVID-19. They include research that warrants further study to corroborate the findings and that has yet to be certified by peer review.

Spreading version of Omicron resists all but one new drug

Until Friday, just one COVID-19 antibody drug has been effective against the Omicron variant - sotrovimab from Vir Biotechnology (VIR.O) and GSK (GSK.L) - and that drug is unlikely to do as well against at least one new version of the variant spreading globally, new research suggests.

 

T cells, a key component of the body's immune defenses, may not work well against the Omicron variant in some people, according to new research.

New or persistent health problems follow COVID-19 in seniors

Older adults infected with SARS-CoV-2 before vaccines were available were at higher-than-average risk for needing medical care for a persistent or new problem in the months afterward, according to a report published on Wednesday in The BMJ.

 

Although hospitalized patients were at higher risk for new or persistent problems, "the larger population... who did not require admission to hospital for COVID-19 were still at risk," the researchers said.

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/spreading-version-omicron-resists-lone-effective-drug-t-cell-defense-vs-omicron-2022-02-11/

 

 

Confirming what I frequently posted here at BW:

 

Even vaccinated persons above 50 years face a higher risk of death or severe outcomes on Omicron.

 

Don't listen to those here who propagate that Omicron is comparable to a flu.

 

Stay healthy!

Try to reduce your social contacts as much as you can and abide to the other measures proposed to keep infections at bay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:11 PM, Guest Purpose said:

Bro, we can read from the news. What is your intention or purpose for posting this?

Not everybody buy newspaper. I for one never buy n only watch tv or hear radio news. But now they dun want to report either. 

So thanks to singalion for the effort of reporting.

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:13 PM, singalion said:

Alert to all Members:

 

Reminder to all:

 

Do not entertain the Guest who can only argue with pointing to Free Trade Agreements and claiming all faults and wrongs on foreigners.

 

More Singaporeans and PRs have used the VTLs or returned to Singapore than foreign tourists.

Numbers may change in consideration of the Malaysian PRs, who travelled to Malaysia.

 

As soon as this denigrating word for that one single Free Trade Agreement of a country with the second biggest population of the world turns up in an insulting intention, the Moderators should delete these posts away. 

 

 

 

Alert to all Members:

 

Singaporeans and PRs do NOT need to rely on the use of the VTLs to return to Singapore. Singaporeans and PRs are entitled to return to Singapore any time from anywhere, as long as there are flights available, VTL or not VTLs!

 

The key difference is the quarantine period, which is recklessly shortened or even completely removed, for passengers on VTL flights including those coming from India!  

 

It only appear as if more Singaporeans and PRs have used the VTLs to come into Singapore more than foreign tourists, because there will be more people trying to return to their home countries during this period of time on ANY flights anywhere. Foreigners trying to get into another country are usually those people who are treated like trash in their own home countries and cannot find jobs anywhere else.  

 

Reminder to all: 

 

Do not entertain this Member who has been known to mislead everyone with lies just to fit his own personal narratives and purposes. The presence of VTLs has allowed him to fly back into Singapore from Europe. 

 

 

On 2/13/2022 at 1:31 PM, Guest Wtf said:


finally, something we can agree on 

 

Yes, of course you will agree on any lies that will go along with your ideology to open up the economy big and wide to kill off more Singaporeans.  How (un)surprising.... 

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On 2/13/2022 at 1:33 PM, Guest Wtf said:


seriously?! Under what conditions would you ever then re-start dine in and all the other things you want to stop? And how are goods - you know, stuff like food - going to be delivered into Singapore under your plan? 


Restart dine-in when covid cases drop to <100 per day for 3months consecutively? F&B can still provide take-away so it’s not like asking them to shut down. 
 

Goods can still be imported through the various ports of entry with minimal entry of people. They can set up specialised locations to receive goods and only specific people are allowed there to work. These people should have roaster shifts with others. They should be quarantined for a reasonable period after their shifts, tested negative before returning to the community safely. This concept is no different from people who work on ships for months at a stretch. To compensate them for such arrangements, they should receive allowances. 

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On 2/13/2022 at 12:56 PM, lonelyglobe said:

This loser is the one who compare SG covid death rate to the top 3 death rate countries worldwide, using that same logic, SG is doing very well in controling the spread, we only got 10, 000 cases daily, dont have 100,000 or 200,0000 cases per day as reported elsewhere. 


Actually 10,000 cases daily in SG is very high for a country with 5.5million people.  So we are not doing very well at all controlling the spread.
 

In Hong Kong, they have 1000+ cases per day and they are locking down. HK population is 7 million or so? 

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On 2/13/2022 at 3:48 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Alert to all Members:

 

Singaporeans and PRs do NOT need to rely on the use of the VTLs to return to Singapore. Singaporeans and PRs are entitled to return to Singapore any time from anywhere, as long as there are flights available, VTL or not VTLs!

 

The key difference is the quarantine period, which is recklessly shortened or even completely removed, for passengers on VTL flights including those coming from India!  

 

It only appear as if more Singaporeans and PRs have used the VTLs to come into Singapore more than foreign tourists, because there will be more people trying to return to their home countries during this period of time on ANY flights anywhere. Foreigners trying to get into another country are usually those people who are treated like trash in their own home countries and cannot find jobs anywhere else.  

 

Reminder to all: 

 

Do not entertain this Member who has been known to mislead everyone with lies just to fit his own personal narratives and purposes. The presence of VTLs has allowed him to fly back into Singapore from Europe. 

 

 

 

Yes, of course you will agree on any lies that will go along with your ideology to open up the economy big and wide to kill off more Singaporeans.  How (un)surprising.... 

 

You are sharp to debunk the misinformation by a certain member here. Singaporeans and PRs do not really need VTL to turn to Singapore. They are simply retuning to their home country. What’s wrong with that? 

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On 2/13/2022 at 6:33 PM, Guest Wide Berth said:


Restart dine-in when covid cases drop to <100 per day for 3months consecutively? F&B can still provide take-away so it’s not like asking them to shut down. 
 

Goods can still be imported through the various ports of entry with minimal entry of people. They can set up specialised locations to receive goods and only specific people are allowed there to work. These people should have roaster shifts with others. They should be quarantined for a reasonable period after their shifts, tested negative before returning to the community safely. This concept is no different from people who work on ships for months at a stretch. To compensate them for such arrangements, they should receive allowances. 


you find those measures proportionate for a virus where 99.7% of cases are mild or asymptomatic?
 

Wow. Well, you do you I guess. 
 

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 6:47 PM, Guest Well said said:

 

You are sharp to debunk the misinformation by a certain member here. Singaporeans and PRs do not really need VTL to turn to Singapore. They are simply retuning to their home country. What’s wrong with that? 


Anyone who doesn’t want to do quarantine uses VTL, Singaporean, PR or foreigner. So is your problem people not doing quarantine or foreigners or both? 

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If the SG government is responsible, then they keep the current restrictions for another 2 - 4 weeks, in particular if only the booster reduces risks against omicron. 

 

The booster is hanging at 63% as of MOH statistics. 

This means more than 1/3 of residents still not boostered. 

 

Let's be reasonable. 

 

We should allow all to get the chance to minimise any risk. 

 

I don't see that the current restrictions are hurting us too much. 

 

And those nightlife/entertainment just needs to bear another month...

There is no need that groups of more than 5 have to sing Karaoke and get drunk...

This generation still has plenty chances to go Karaoke and clubs after June 2022... Let's not overdo. 

 

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On 2/13/2022 at 6:53 PM, Guest Wtf said:


Anyone who doesn’t want to do quarantine uses VTL, Singaporean, PR or foreigner. So is your problem people not doing quarantine or foreigners or both? 

 

VTLs shouldn't even have existed in the first place. The VTLs are just here to open the economy big and wide for the influx of all the COVID variants to cull off Singaporeans. Singaporeans who wants to come back from overseas can always do so, serving the entire non-reduced quarantine time period after returning on non-VTL flights.

 

There are too many disjointed points and too many errors in your comprehension skills shown in your posts for anyone to think that they can have any intelligent conversation with you. Maybe you can choose retard-wanting-COVID-deaths as your guest name? 

 

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