Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 5:18 PM, singalion said:

 

The fact still remains that your response post focused on the wrong section and was sending wrong signals.

 

 

Simply not relevant because above "conclusion" does not apply to the by Omicron uninfected population of Singapore.

 

Please note that your above point you stressed referred only to people who had already been recently infected with Omicron. This might apply to the approx. 200,000 that have been recently infected with Omicron but it simply doesn't apply to all others, namely 98% (or more) of Singapore's population.

Those people who had not suffered any Omicron infection do not have such antibodies.

 

Unless, you had just suffered from an Omicron infection yourself, then the above part may have applied to you, but it does nothing to all others non  infected people.

 

So the conclusion was worth nothing and your post superfluous.

 

Let us see first what the impact and risk assessment of the new Covid Omicron sub variant BA.2 will be.

 

 

 

 

a) please feel free to take umbrage with the writer who decided to end the article this way

 

b) if only posting content relevant to the general reader here, please stop overly emphasising covid at all because most readers do not have medical conditions and are likely vaccinated, so they are very unlikely to be in the 0.3% of the population negatively affected

 

For accurate balance, going forward, please ensure that 99.7% of your posts relate to covid cases being mild or without symptoms. 

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 4:21 PM, Guest Wtf said:

#1) learn to read. Then read the answer from @lonelyglobe

 

#2) learn to count. Then see that there have been more than 200,000 cases in the last sixteen days, so even if you put 1000 in red bold italic it doesn’t change the 99.7%. If you went to change that, you need to calculate the number of new admissions per day and calculate that as a percentage of the daily case number. 

 

#1) I have read. Perhaps you should too. But first, you need to grow a brain. 

 

#2) learn to comprehend. Even as you can keep repeating the questionable statistical number of 99.7%, it doesn’t change the fact that there were more than 1000 daily cases of COVID-hospitalizations over the past 16 days.  If you want to change that, you need to go tell all those reporters that they are all reporting false news and get the Minister to issue POFMAs on them. 

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 5:37 PM, Guest Wtf said:

For accurate balance, going forward, please ensure that 99.7% of your posts relate to covid cases being mild or without symptoms. 

 

Wow ...... whitewashing at its best! 😳

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 5:46 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

#1) I have read. Perhaps you should too. But first, you need to grow a brain. 

 

#2) learn to comprehend. Even as you can keep repeating the questionable statistical number of 99.7%, it doesn’t change the fact that there were more than 1000 daily cases of COVID-hospitalizations over the past 16 days.  If you want to change that, you need to go tell all those reporters that they are all reporting false news and get the Minister to issue POFMAs on them. 

try and keep up…

 

where did I deny or question that there have been more than 1,000 people in hospital with covid for the last 16 days? It would stand to reason that there are people in hospital if 0.3% of 200,000 cases end up with more severe cases. That’s 600 people, so I would expect exactly around the number that are in hospital right now on the basis that some people need to stay longer than others.
 

By the way, your claim of ‘1000 daily cases of covid hospitalisations’ is clearly totally wrong. If that were the case, wouldn’t there be a few more than the 1,523 people in hospital with covid as of yesterday? Or does everyone just go in for a day? 
 

At some point, do you not get embarrassed about being so consistently wrong? Or are you not even clever enough to realise how wrong you are? 

[Guest Wide Berth]

On 2/21/2022 at 2:23 PM, Nightingale said:

Omicron  Sub-Variant  BA.2  Reportedly  Spreading  Fast  &  Could  be  Deadlier

 

https://goodyfeed.com/omicron-ba2-fast-deadlier/amp

The BA.2 Omicron sub-variant is quite quite unknown yet for now. It is therefore worthwhile to be overly cautious than to be complacent. If we assume that it is no more deadlier than Omicron and when more studies show that they are in fact deadlier, it will be very sad and tragic as we did not put in more restrictions to stop the spread when we can.
 

So it pays well to be overly cautious.

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 6:34 PM, Guest Wide Berth said:

The BA.2 Omicron sub-variant is quite quite unknown yet for now. It is therefore worthwhile to be overly cautious than to be complacent. If we assume that it is no more deadlier than Omicron and when more studies show that they are in fact deadlier, it will be very sad and tragic as we did not put in more restrictions to stop the spread when we can.
 

So it pays well to be overly cautious.

Thank you for your point of view as a blowing wind certified epidemiologist. Or doctor is it? 
 

what about if a deadlier variant than omicron comes along? Will you then wish you had been less controlled when omicron was dominant in order that there be some additional immunity in the population along with vaccines? 
 

When it comes to public health, isn’t it better to work with facts and data than what if’s? Because if you consider all what if’s and risks, you will basically find it impossible that people do anything at all due to the potential danger to their health. 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 5:37 PM, Guest Wtf said:

a) please feel free to take umbrage with the writer who decided to end the article this way

 

b) if only posting content relevant to the general reader here, please stop overly emphasising covid at all because most readers do not have medical conditions and are likely vaccinated, so they are very unlikely to be in the 0.3% of the population negatively affected

 

For accurate balance, going forward, please ensure that 99.7% of your posts relate to covid cases being mild or without symptoms. 

 

But you were the smart one who posted the last part containing the "conclusion" directly into BW without any much thought as you immediately jumped on the totally irrelevant findings...

 

You had been told before that the 99.7/ 0.3 % number is long outdated.

I am not sure why you need to repeat the outdated data on and on.

 

 

 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 7:05 PM, Guest Wtf said:

Thank you for your point of view as a blowing wind certified epidemiologist. Or doctor is it? 
 

what about if a deadlier variant than omicron comes along? Will you then wish you had been less controlled when omicron was dominant in order that there be some additional immunity in the population along with vaccines? 
 

When it comes to public health, isn’t it better to work with facts and data than what if’s? Because if you consider all what if’s and risks, you will basically find it impossible that people do anything at all due to the potential danger to their health. 

 

Government's plans are mostly speculative and in the future looking.

 

I have not seen that any responsible government takes plans into the past...

 

So for planning there is always an "if" and "risks" or less risks.

 

In the mid 90s the Singapore government had totally "overplanned" the HDB construction at the West and North East Areas of Singapore. It was a plan that worked on a population growth by Singaporeans that did not materialise.

You can reason it on the zodiac lower birth numbers for certain not so preferred birth years or a result of lower sexual activity of young couples or a consequence of the 1997 economic crisis.

 

Had you travelled to Jurong West in 1997 or the North East Areas you had seen huge series of new HDB blocks that had been fully constructed but remained "ghost towns" for very long period after.

 

Meaning: Not every plan will work out...

 

 

Going back on Covid and new emerging Omicron variants or totally new mutations of Covid, Governments must balance such "ifs" and risks.

 

I personally see the discussion or removing restrictions as a policy tool to give a silver lining to the Singaporeans out of the pandemic. But don't forget, when the second wave of covid reached Singapore, suddenly the Government reacted with harsh restrictions, cancelled the already announced reduction of restrictive measures and imposed new stringent measures on Covid.

 

This is what you call risk assessment.

 

Just looking at the blue parts of the sky only and not seeing the some of the dark clouds at the sky is looking through rose tinted glasses but not what we call risk assessment.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 7:46 PM, singalion said:

 

But you were the smart one who posted the last part containing the "conclusion" directly into BW without any much thought as you immediately jumped on the totally irrelevant findings...

 

You had been told before that the 99.7/ 0.3 % number is long outdated.

I am not sure why you need to repeat the outdated data on and on.

 

 

 

sorry, ‘the 99.7 / 0.3 % number is long outdated’?!? What is your exact source for that information? Please provide a link to the curent number. 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 8:28 PM, Guest Wtf said:

sorry, ‘the 99.7 / 0.3 % number is long outdated’?!? What is your exact source for that information? Please provide a link to the curent number. 

 

I am not your research assistant or butler.

 

The most recent number from a study shows that the original Covid overall death ratio was  at 3%,

Alpha at 2.56%,

Delta at 2.12 %,

Omicron is at 1.31 %.

Omicron data is taken from January 2022.

 

Status of the data is 14 Feb 2022.

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by singalion

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 6:09 PM, Guest Wtf said:

try and keep up…

 

where did I deny or question that there have been more than 1,000 people in hospital with covid for the last 16 days? It would stand to reason that there are people in hospital if 0.3% of 200,000 cases end up with more severe cases. That’s 600 people, so I would expect exactly around the number that are in hospital right now on the basis that some people need to stay longer than others.
 

By the way, your claim of ‘1000 daily cases of covid hospitalisations’ is clearly totally wrong. If that were the case, wouldn’t there be a few more than the 1,523 people in hospital with covid as of yesterday? Or does everyone just go in for a day? 
 

At some point, do you not get embarrassed about being so consistently wrong? Or are you not even clever enough to realise how wrong you are? 

 

OMG, you still don't get it, do you? Or perhaps you are just deliberately trying to miss the entire forest for the trees, by focusing on those teeeny tiny matters instead of the big picture. Here, let me repost the BIG picture to you: 

 

On 2/20/2022 at 7:09 PM, Guest Guest said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/community/nurses-and-volunteers-wanted-amid-healthcare-manpower-shortage-as-covid-19-cases-surge 

 

Nurses and volunteers wanted amid healthcare manpower shortage as Covid-19 cases surge

 

Didn't someone says he will only call for the CBs to be reinstated when the hospitals are overwhelmed? Now, MOH is already going around begging for nurses and volunteers already, is this not considered "overwhelmed"??

 

It doesn't take much intelligence for anyone to see that such capacities at the hospitals will be an issue. Time and again, this issue has surfaced all over the world, from China to India and even USA. And yet, we still want to go open up the economy and "live with COVID" under the false pretense that the Omicron is "mild" and it will not cause fatalities. 

 

And someone here even further tried to wash down the seriousness by telling people it is "just like the flu". 

 

Look at the situation now. Where is that Guest Wtf now? Is he even going to the hospitals to volunteer himself at all?  Or is he still going around to tell people to open the economy bigger and further so that he can earn his own money? Those guys who has been pushing for the further opening of the economy really should be put in a line straight into Hell. 

 

 

What is NOT important right now is whether your numbers is 99.7% mild or not; What is also NOT important right now is whether there are 100, or 1000, or 10,000 COVID-patients in the hospital or not. 

 

What is important right now is THERE ARE NO MANPOWER TO GO MAN THE HOSPITALS! GOT THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL YET?? 

Do you think your statistics is sooooo important right now? So what even if you are spot on in getting your numbers right to the 10th decimal point? The hospitals are overwhelmed to the extent that MOH is already going around begging for nurses and volunteers already!

 

And of course, I guess you are again going to retreat and claim that you are not denying the FACT that the hospitals are overwhelmed. But the BIG question is this: Are you denying the fact that YOU are one of those people who has been encouraging and/or pushing for the re-opening of the economy wider and wider until the hospitals have reached this stage? 

 

At some point, do you not get embarrassed about being so retarded? Or are you so far gone that you don't even know that you are a retard? 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:00 PM, singalion said:

 

I am not your research assistant or butler.

 

The most recent number from a study shows that the original Covid overall death ratio was  at 3%,

Alpha at 2.56%,

Delta at 2.12 %,

Omicron is at 1.31 %.

Omicron data is taken from January 2022.

 

Status of the data is 14 Feb 2022.

 

‘from a study’… wow 😂 

 

again, no link

 

if you make unsubstantiated claims, don’t be surprised when people ask you to substantiate. Do your own research and show your working when you make these kind of claims, then there won’t need to be an endless back and forth of people showing your posts to be nonsense. It’s pretty basic. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:03 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

OMG, you still don't get it, do you? Or perhaps you are just deliberately trying to miss the entire forest for the trees, by focusing on those teeeny tiny matters instead of the big picture. Here, let me repost the BIG picture to you: 

 

 

 

What is NOT important right now is whether your numbers is 99.7% mild or not; What is also NOT important right now is whether there are 100, or 1000, or 10,000 COVID-patients in the hospital or not. 

 

What is important right now is THERE ARE NO MANPOWER TO GO MAN THE HOSPITALS! GOT THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL YET?? 

Do you think your statistics is sooooo important right now? So what even if you are spot on in getting your numbers right to the 10th decimal point? The hospitals are overwhelmed to the extent that MOH is already going around begging for nurses and volunteers already!

 

And of course, I guess you are again going to retreat and claim that you are not denying the FACT that the hospitals are overwhelmed. But the BIG question is this: Are you denying the fact that YOU are one of those people who has been encouraging and/or pushing for the re-opening of the economy wider and wider until the hospitals have reached this stage? 

 

At some point, do you not get embarrassed about being so retarded? Or are you so far gone that you don't even know that you are a retard? 

Every 🎪 needs a 🤡 

 

thanks for the entertainment but this show of yours is getting embarrassingly tired. Again. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:00 PM, singalion said:

 

I am not your research assistant or butler.

 

The most recent number from a study shows that the original Covid overall death ratio was  at 3%,

Alpha at 2.56%,

Delta at 2.12 %,

Omicron is at 1.31 %.

Omicron data is taken from January 2022.

 

Status of the data is 14 Feb 2022.

 

see MOH data: 99.7%

 

https://www.moh.gov.sg

 

this is updated 20th February and for the last 28 days. If you have more recent information, please share. 

[Guest Wide Berth]

On 2/21/2022 at 7:05 PM, Guest Wtf said:

Thank you for your point of view as a blowing wind certified epidemiologist. Or doctor is it? 
 

what about if a deadlier variant than omicron comes along? Will you then wish you had been less controlled when omicron was dominant in order that there be some additional immunity in the population along with vaccines? 
 

When it comes to public health, isn’t it better to work with facts and data than what if’s? Because if you consider all what if’s and risks, you will basically find it impossible that people do anything at all due to the potential danger to their health. 

Are there epidemiologists and doctors who are calling for us to ignore the potential risks of BA.2 Omicron sub-variant? 
 

I would rather wish the authorities impose drastic restrictions regardless of types of variants of Covid when they have scant details at first and against known surge of 15k-20k cases in a small country of 5.5million. 
 

When it comes to public health, isn’t it better to prioritise it over wealth and materialise stuff? One will find it impossible to enjoy all the wealth in this world when one is bedridden or even dead. 

[Guest Wide Berth]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:20 PM, Guest Wtf said:

see MOH data: 99.7%

 

https://www.moh.gov.sg

 

this is updated 20th February and for the last 28 days. If you have more recent information, please share. 

99.7% or not, why is MOH asking for more nurses and volunteers? They are in need of more resources in the face of surging daily covid cases. So doesn’t it make sense to impose more restrictions to lower the daily covid cases to 100 instead of 15,000-20,000 for 6-9months at least before considering any changes to the restrictions? 

[Guest GUEST]

On 2/21/2022 at 12:54 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Not safe but if is a urgent case,  no choice but to go,  if is a normal check up and cleaning, can defer. Likewise with massage and especially facial, the risk outweight the benefits. 

If for normal cleaning and checkup not safe to go, then at least 2-3 years no need to go dental. Looks like people taking mask down to dine in and chit chat, no one avoid but going to dental and facial, the risk outweight the benefits?

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:12 PM, Guest Wtf said:

Every 🎪 needs a 🤡 

 

thanks for the entertainment but this show of yours is getting embarrassingly tired. Again. 

 

Sigh .. your one-liner potshots as you retreat like a 缩头乌龟 is getting predictable and lame. Come on! Even a retard will try their best to do better!  Are you really worse than a retard? 

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:31 PM, Guest GUEST said:

If for normal cleaning and checkup not safe to go, then at least 2-3 years no need to go dental. Looks like people taking mask down to dine in and chit chat, no one avoid but going to dental and facial, the risk outweight the benefits?

 

I keep my teeth and gums healthy all the time, so I have not visited a dentist for a long time. And yet, my teeth are still doing fine. Wait for 2-3 years so what? It's like 没病去看病，有的就是神经病. 

[lonelyglobe]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:31 PM, Guest GUEST said:

If for normal cleaning and checkup not safe to go, then at least 2-3 years no need to go dental. Looks like people taking mask down to dine in and chit chat, no one avoid but going to dental and facial, the risk outweight the benefits?

Dont talk nonsense, from other countries experience, omicron wave should come fast and go fast, give another few months when more than 50% of population kena,  our cases should drop drastically if there is no new variant. 

 

Though no official figures are available,  i believe quite a large portion of the infection probably arise from eating out as  the 1m rule is not going to work well with omicron and also a lot of places might not even follow. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by lonelyglobe

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:20 PM, Guest Wtf said:

see MOH data: 99.7%

 

https://www.moh.gov.sg

 

this is updated 20th February and for the last 28 days. If you have more recent information, please share. 

 

Did you ever note that the numbers after the total number of infections have not changed since mid December 2021 and always have remained the same percentage???

 

Thinking with a sense of logic with approximately 80 deaths from Covid the past 17 days (approx 90 since 1 Feb), can that be???

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:32 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

Sigh .. your one-liner potshots as you retreat like a 缩头乌龟 is getting predictable and lame. Come on! Even a retard will try their best to do better!  Are you really worse than a retard? 

I am neither a qualified psychiatrist nor someone interested in arguing with an illiterate, innumerate, so there is no need to discuss anything with you. Carry on with your little clown show.
 

Oh, and go to the dentist. After 2-3 years, your teeth must need a good clean by now. If you are dating anyone (a big if!), they will be glad of your improved oral hygiene. 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:45 PM, Guest Wtf said:

I am neither a qualified psychiatrist nor someone interested in arguing with an illiterate, innumerate, so there is no need to discuss anything with you. Carry on with your little clown show.
 

Oh, and go to the dentist. After 2-3 years, your teeth must need a good clean by now. If you are dating anyone (a big if!), they will be glad of your improved oral hygiene. 

 

Why do you then entertain him all the time?

You are giving him the forum with your replies to every post from him and the attention he is seeking.

 

...

[Guest GUEST]

On 2/21/2022 at 1:14 PM, Guest Wtf said:

Reality check:

 

Consider that the dentist and assistant will be masked (maybe double masked) along with goggles or face shield and you will probably be asked to wear goggles. If anyone is more at risk, it is the dentist as they are going to be working with your open mouth. 
 

covid can’t come above all other health concerns - oral health and hygiene is important too. Not sure why someone in their response  is equating a dental procedure with a facial….
 

And please remember that even if you do catch covid, despite all the panicking on this thread, 99.7% of cases have mild or no symptoms (probably even less than this now, when you consider that not all positive cases are being recorded). 

Even though covid positive in most cases are mild or no symptoms, and symptoms even similar like flu and cough. But heard that covid virus might have unknown long term health issue or side effects if you get infected. So better still prevent yourself from getting infected if possible.

 

Back to the dental. If people scare of getting covid and don't go to dental at all, it would be like 2 years plus since covid started, i don't feel good on my oral health and hygiene, and yet i am also a bit worry if it is high risk to go dental during covid pandemic, esp the current high infectious of Omicron. 

[jlone]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:28 PM, Guest Wide Berth said:

99.7% or not, why is MOH asking for more nurses and volunteers? They are in need of more resources in the face of surging daily covid cases. So doesn’t it make sense to impose more restrictions to lower the daily covid cases to 100 instead of 15,000-20,000 for 6-9months at least before considering any changes to the restrictions? 

The trouble is no one is demanding for imposing of more restrictions.  The majority seem to happy of the current situation as you will notice that everywhere is crowded esp those shopping malls, hawker centers, public transports etc.

Even the healthcare workers  doesn't seem to complain or demand either.

Edited February 21, 2022 by jlone

[Guest guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:44 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Dont talk nonsense, from other countries experience, omicron wave should come fast and go fast, give another few months when more than 50% of population kena,  our cases should drop drastically if there is no new variant. 

 

Though no official figures are available,  i believe quite a large portion of the infection probably arise from eating out as  the 1m rule is not going to work well with omicron and also a lot of places might not even follow. 

So eating out is more risky than going to dental?

[lonelyglobe]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:51 PM, Guest guest said:

So eating out is more risky than going to dental?

As long as mask is removed and with prolong contact, the risk became high. This will be last respond to u but i wont say i m not commenting here, it will be quite stupid to say that and then come back again to comment. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:45 PM, singalion said:

 

Did you ever note that the numbers after the total number of infections have not changed since mid December 2021 and always have remained the same percentage???

 

Thinking with a sense of logic with approximately 80 deaths from Covid the past 17 days (approx 90 since 1 Feb), can that be???

 

 

Just when I think you can’t get more sloppy… at the link I shared, it is clearly written ‘over the last 28 days’. You want to verify, check with MOH.

 

In the last 16 days, there have been over 200,000 cases so the approx 80 deaths you mention would be 0.04%. So, yes, with a sense of logic, the 99.7% can be.

 

And let’s not forget, as you and a few other of the resident posters who like to irresponsibly spread panic, fear and negativity constantly say: the real case number is likely to be much higher. Which, guess what, means that the real number of severe cases is likely to be even lower still.

 

Anyway, I am sure MOH would love to hear from you if you have questions on the veracity of their publicly available data. 

[lonelyglobe]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:28 PM, Guest Wide Berth said:

99.7% or not, why is MOH asking for more nurses and volunteers? They are in need of more resources in the face of surging daily covid cases. So doesn’t it make sense to impose more restrictions to lower the daily covid cases to 100 instead of 15,000-20,000 for 6-9months at least before considering any changes to the restrictions? 

SG have missed the opportunity to control the spread or rather that is not the intention in the first place. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:59 PM, lonelyglobe said:

SG have missed the opportunity to control the spread or rather that is not the intention in the first place. 

why are you replying to your own post? 

[lonelyglobe]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-quietly-confident-in-dealing-with-covid-19-omicron-wave-lawrence-wong

 

Of course,  with high vaccination rate and high infection rate, i also think we can get out of the wave by april. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:48 PM, Guest GUEST said:

Even though covid positive in most cases are mild or no symptoms, and symptoms even similar like flu and cough. But heard that covid virus might have unknown long term health issue or side effects if you get infected. So better still prevent yourself from getting infected if possible.

 

Back to the dental. If people scare of getting covid and don't go to dental at all, it would be like 2 years plus since covid started, i don't feel good on my oral health and hygiene, and yet i am also a bit worry if it is high risk to go dental during covid pandemic, esp the current high infectious of Omicron. 

last bit of the reality check, and what seems to be the hardest part for people to understand:

 

covid is not going anywhere. It is now endemic globally and will continue to circulate and mutate and everybody will be infected with it at some point or other in their lives. This is a hard fact and difficult for some to accept but that is something we all have to realize and then act accordingly.

 

So you can wait for this part of the pandemic to end and go to the dentist once daily cases stop being announced and life feels more normal but don’t wait until there is no risk of catching Covid because you will end up with no teeth left, because you will be waiting forever.

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:08 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-quietly-confident-in-dealing-with-covid-19-omicron-wave-lawrence-wong

 

Of course,  with high vaccination rate and high infection rate, i also think we can get out of the wave by april. 

so why keep asking for new tight restrictions to get to 100 cases a day? 

[Guest guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:08 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-quietly-confident-in-dealing-with-covid-19-omicron-wave-lawrence-wong

 

Of course,  with high vaccination rate and high infection rate, i also think we can get out of the wave by april. 

He sounds so optimism as usual?! We can get out of the wave by apr? 

[Guest guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:14 PM, Guest Wtf said:

last bit of the reality check, and what seems to be the hardest part for people to understand:

 

covid is not going anywhere. It is now endemic globally and will continue to circulate and mutate and everybody will be infected with it at some point or other in their lives. This is a hard fact and difficult for some to accept but that is something we all have to realize and then act accordingly.

 

So you can wait for this part of the pandemic to end and go to the dentist once daily cases stop being announced and life feels more normal but don’t wait until there is no risk of catching Covid because you will end up with no teeth left, because you will be waiting forever.

True that covid is not going away, if we scare this and scare that, our daily life would come to a full stop. So just continue to go for dental cleaning and facial. Many people even no go to mask off activity still can also infected with covid. 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:58 PM, Guest Wtf said:

And let’s not forget, as you and a few other of the resident posters who like to irresponsibly spread panic, fear and negativity constantly say: the real case number is likely to be much higher. Which, guess what, means that the real number of severe cases is likely to be even lower still.

 

I do not spread any irresponsible panic or fear.

 

I just say be cautious.

 

Is it panic or fear mongering to advice people to stay away from crowds, be responsible, mask up, etc and stay at home as much as possible to avoid an infection?

 

What irresponsible advice from you to catch the Omicron to grow antibodies on your own, when for plenty it can end up at Mandai, Bright Hill or Bukit Brown... .

 

I don't play down Omicron and don't compare it with a flu.

 

What you still forget are these numbers for people aged 50 and above on a per 100,000 basis:

Current Omicron wave cases and deaths per 100k in each age group

 

You can see that the data up to 21 jan, the fetal rates per 100,000 for the age groups and covers Omicron

50 to 59 is 1.34

60 to 69 is 2.92

70 - 79 is 11.71

80-89 is 35.19

Above 90 is 99.85

 

This in reference to a general vaccination rate (2 doses) at 90% and booster (at 70%).

 

The number reflects that Omicron is still an increased risk for fully vaccinated people above 50 years.

 

 

 

Actually after various of rounds I have little mood to discuss with you much as you are plain quarrelsome.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:45 PM, Guest Wtf said:

I am neither a qualified psychiatrist nor someone interested in arguing with an illiterate, innumerate, so there is no need to discuss anything with you. Carry on with your little clown show.
 

Oh, and go to the dentist. After 2-3 years, your teeth must need a good clean by now. If you are dating anyone (a big if!), they will be glad of your improved oral hygiene. 

 

OMG! As if anyone would expect a retard like you to become a qualified psychiatrist! Who exactly is the clown here? LOL! 

 

And boy oh boy! Retards do know how to brush and floss their teeth and rinse them with mouthwash, don't they? That's how people upkeep their teeth to avoid visiting the dentist for 2-3 years or even more. But in your case, you should be drinking the mouthwash to rid the world of some toxicity. 

 

And it sure seems that you are avoiding any discussion on MOH call for nurses and volunteers to handle the COVID surge. Why? You keep telling people to go to their bunkers. But yet it seems even harder to get you, the 缩头乌龟, to come out and acknowledge the hospital manpower shortage. 

 

But it is OK. You can go retreat into your tortoise shell now.  We understand retards needs their hiding space. 

 

 

 

On 2/21/2022 at 9:48 PM, singalion said:

 

Why do you then entertain him all the time?

You are giving him the forum with your replies to every post from him and the attention he is seeking.

 

...

 

Why? You got a problem with us using him for the entertainment of all BW forummers. You need us to revert all our attention back to you for fun instead? You miss our attention? You want some of our "love" as well? Just give us a bit of time, OK? We will get back to you after we are done with him. Can? 

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:17 PM, Guest Wtf said:

so why keep asking for new tight restrictions to get to 100 cases a day? 

 

Because 1,000 a day is too many, and 10,000 a day even worse? And that is not even talking about the corresponding increase in the number of COVID-deaths too. You can't see that answer and you need people to S-P-E-L-L it out to you? 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:31 PM, singalion said:

 

I do not spread any irresponsible panic or fear.

 

I just say be cautious.

 

Is it panic or fear mongering to advice people to stay away from crowds, be responsible, mask up, etc and stay at home as much as possible to avoid an infection?

 

What irresponsible advice from you to catch the Omicron to grow antibodies on your own, when for plenty it can end up at Mandai, Bright Hill or Bukit Brown... .

 

I don't play down Omicron and don't compare it with a flu.

 

What you still forget are these numbers for people aged 50 and above on a per 100,000 basis:

Current Omicron wave cases and deaths per 100k in each age group

 

You can see that the data up to 21 jan, the fetal rates per 100,000 for the age groups and covers Omicron

50 to 59 is 1.34

60 to 69 is 2.92

70 - 79 is 11.71

80-89 is 35.19

Above 90 is 99.85

 

This in reference to a general vaccination rate (2 doses) at 90% and booster (at 70%).

 

The number reflects that Omicron is still an increased risk for fully vaccinated people above 50 years.

 

 

 

Actually after various of rounds I have little mood to discuss with you much as you are plain quarrelsome.

 

 

 

 

again, you are posting data without naming the source or sharing any link… very sloppy. 🤦‍♂️ 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:51 PM, Guest guest said:

So eating out is more risky than going to dental?

 

you want my reply?

 

It depends...

 

 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:48 PM, Guest Wtf said:

again, you are posting data without naming the source or sharing any link… very sloppy. 🤦‍♂️ 

 

The source was shared before.

That's your usual strategy to brush off anything that you don't like.

 

Memory loss???

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:14 PM, Guest Wtf said:

last bit of the reality check, and what seems to be the hardest part for people to understand:

 

covid is not going anywhere. It is now endemic globally and will continue to circulate and mutate and everybody will be infected with it at some point or other in their lives. This is a hard fact and difficult for some to accept but that is something we all have to realize and then act accordingly.

 

 

Ooooo... is it really "a hard fact and difficult for some to accept" that COVID "will continue to circulate and mutate and everybody will be infected with it at some point or other in their lives"? 

 

Because it sure seems really easy peesy when the policy makers made the decision to open up the economy far and wide, fast and furious, and at the expense of Singaporean lives. But of course, they will always have so many cronies to sing along to whatever death-tune they put out. 

 

On 2/21/2022 at 10:14 PM, Guest Wtf said:

 

So you can wait for this part of the pandemic to end and go to the dentist once daily cases stop being announced and life feels more normal but don’t wait until there is no risk of catching Covid because you will end up with no teeth left, because you will be waiting forever.

 

 

And of course, the retards will say that >10,000 daily cases is considered "no risk of catching Covid", so everyone should go see dentist soon. 

[singalion]

1,606 patients hospitalised with Covid-19 in S'pore; 13,623 new cases reported

Published 21 Feb 2022

SINGAPORE - There were a total of 1,606 Covid-19 cases in hospital on Monday (Feb 21), up from the 1,523 on Sunday, according to data published on the Ministry of Health website.

With the latest update, hospitalisation numbers have exceeded the 1,000 mark for 17 days in a row.

Seven deaths were reported on Monday as well.

 

[jlone]

Omg when is the number of hospitalised patients coming down ?

Really pity the healthcare workers.

[Guest Guest]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:08 PM, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-quietly-confident-in-dealing-with-covid-19-omicron-wave-lawrence-wong

 

Of course,  with high vaccination rate and high infection rate, i also think we can get out of the wave by april. 

 

""If this situation continues like that, we believe that we should be able to take some decisive steps towards easing once we have passed this present peak of the Omicron wave."

 

Errr .. is it just me having this deja vu? Just how many times have we heard something like that?  And each time they ease, it peaks even further.  Some people just never learn. 

[Guest Wtf]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:51 PM, singalion said:

 

The source was shared before.

That's your usual strategy to brush off anything that you don't like.

 

Memory loss???

when was the source shared before? If you mean the post where you wrote ‘a study’ as the source, without providing any additional information, then please forgive me not remembering that as you sharing the source. 
 

I am actually engaging with what you write, rather than brushing it off, and answering the points you make rather than changing the goalposts like some other people posting. I guess you don’t really like being called out or challenged, which is strange for someone who posts so much? 

[singalion]

On 2/21/2022 at 11:10 PM, Guest Wtf said:

when was the source shared before? If you mean the post where you wrote ‘a study’ as the source, without providing any additional information, then please forgive me not remembering that as you sharing the source. 
 

I am actually engaging with what you write, rather than brushing it off, and answering the points you make rather than changing the goalposts like some other people posting. I guess you don’t really like being called out or challenged, which is strange for someone who posts so much? 

 

There was no need to use words such as "sloppy" in your initial post.  Calling something "sloppy" is brushing off or reducing the validity or calling down the credibility of someone else.

 

 The whole article with the link was given in the same thread here... .

 

 

[sgmaven]

On 2/21/2022 at 11:19 PM, singalion said:

There was no need to use words such as "sloppy" in your initial post.  Calling something "sloppy" is brushing off or reducing the validity or calling down the credibility of someone else.

 

 The whole article with the link was given in the same thread here... .

 

Don't waste your time with someone who continues to hide behind a "guest" moniker, and only knows how to use condescending and demeaning terms on others, when what they say does not fit his thinking.

[Guest Wide Berth]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:25 PM, Guest guest said:

He sounds so optimism as usual?! We can get out of the wave by apr? 

He didn’t say the year. Maybe get out of the wave by April 2027?

 

Btw. I am not Lonelyglobe 

[Guest Wide Berth]

On 2/21/2022 at 10:17 PM, Guest Wtf said:

so why keep asking for new tight restrictions to get to 100 cases a day? 

Isn’t it obvious 100cases a day is way better than 15,000-20,000 cases a day? Less people will need to report sick, hospital resources can be freed up to treat other types of medical issues, fewer people will be at risk of dying. The benefits of having only 100cases outweighs the risks.