Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[Steve5380]

8 hours ago, Guest Gay patriot said:

I don't believe it's a smart idea unless you offer value to my beloved nation by investing at least a few hundred thousand to a million dollars and increasing employment opportunities for locals.

 

I respect your patriotism.  In my first visit to Singapore, after some very successful visits to Towel Club and discovering my attraction to Singapore gays,  it crossed my mind that I could become a resident,  since I have enough money to invest in your country to gain residency.  But in recent decades I am so pleased with my current residence that I give priority to my family and convenient life here over optimum gay scene.  So visits to your country as tourist is my best option.  Also I find that my medical care, like in prevention and treatment of covid,  is superior where I live now.

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Edited October 19, 2022 by Steve5380

[sgmaven]

While "researching the topic" of the new XBB strain, I realised that it was first detected in Singapore! I wonder why Singapore never celebrated this "homegrown talent" that is so good at evading antibodies?

 

On a more serious note, if XBB is indeed "homegrown", then we cannot blame the visitors coming to watch F1 for causing the rise of cases in Singapore. It is just the mingling of so many people at F1 that caused the spike. Besides, we probably "gifted" many foreigners with XBB, and they will probably be bringing the virus back to their homelands to infect even more people!

 

*XBB is a hybrid between Omicron BA.2.75 & BJ.1 subvariants.

[lonelyglobe]

Bump

Edited October 20, 2022 by lonelyglobe

[lonelyglobe]

4 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/10/global-covid-19-cases-down-rising-western-pacific

 

From MOH website

 

"The Omicron XBB subvariant was first detected in August 2022 in India, and has since been detected in more than 17 countries, including Australia, Bangladesh, Denmark, India, Japan and the US."

 

Therefore it can be confirmed that just like the delta variant,  XBB was first found in India in august and that coincide perfectly with that stupid "indoor dont need mask" policy in end august which is probably the reason behind the spike of cases from end September in SG. 

 

[sgmaven]

Interesting, kind of like the situation of the Beta strain, that was first detected in South Africa? Many think that the Beta strain first developed in another country, and then found its way to South Africa, where the more frequent genomic testing of COVID-strains led to the discovery of the Beta strain (then called the South African variant).

[sgmaven]

"Role of spike in the pathogenic and antigenic behavior of SARS-CoV-2 BA.11 Omicron"

 

A research group at Boston University decided to make a version of the SARS-CoV2 virus, with the Spike Protein from the BA.1 Omicron variant, and the "core" of the original Wuhan wild strain. The result? They found that while the original BA.1 Omicron had a zero mortality rate on their modified mice (the mice have human ACE-2 receptors), this new version of the virus has an 80% mortality rate amongst the mice! (Okay, 100% of the mice exposed to the original Wuhan strain died).

 

Shocking to know that this sort of dangerous research is being carried out, and the research group actually did not detail this research in their grant application to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) of the US. In fact, the US NIAID only found out about the research when the pre-print was published by the research group!

[sgmaven]

I think this video clearly explains what is and what isn't the bivalent vaccine able to accomplish.

Edited October 25, 2022 by sgmaven

[sgmaven]

23 hours ago, Since u r here said:

i trust all will take the bivalent

 

I think this video actually doesn't address the fact that the fall in antibody titres against virus ("waning immunity") is not that the body stops making the antibodies, but because the virus mutates to evade these antibodies. Also, do consider that the immune system does not only have the antibodies as their "only weapon" against SARS-CoV2. The immune system is a rather complex combination of the innate and adaptive systems. So, a person's response to any new infection, depends on how these systems react to it (not purely the antibody response).

[sgmaven]

6 hours ago, Since u r here said:

 

in just 10min++,u know do u have anti bodies, and whether u r protected
Diff from serology test

 

You do know that antibodies are not the only line of defence the body has against COVID-19, right? That is getting a glimpse at only part of the picture. Also, the documentary short does talk about which antibodies are being tested for. Not all antibody tests identify the same antibodies. Some antibody tests are more or less sensitive to specific sections of the antibody protein than others.

 

Antibodies and COVID-19 - US CDC article

Edited October 29, 2022 by sgmaven

[stevechia]

4 hours ago, Since u r here said:

useful sia!

those who have been taking pfizer/Commty : dosages and boosters 
for your bivalent  which of u will be taking moderna spikevax or u r considering nuvaxovid/novavax instead?

I had taken 3 doses of Moderna and recently took the bivalent Moderna as the 4th dose. Initially I had wanted to take Novavax for the 4th dose but when the bivalent Moderna was made available locally, I decided to take that instead as it would provide the most up to date protection against Covid. 
For those who had been taking Pfizer shots, there is a chance they might experience greater risks of side effects if they switch to Moderna. This is because the Moderna vaccine has a higher concentration of the mRNA components than that of Pfizer. According to MOH’s website, the first 2 doses of Moderna has 100 mcg of mRNA compared to 33 mcg for Pfizer. Even though the mRNA content of the Moderna booster (3rd dose) and the bivalent Moderna shot has been reduced to 50 mcg, it is still higher than that of the Pfizer vaccine. 

[stevechia]

2 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

but why not pfizer? of lesser efficacy compared to moderna?

u are of snr age?

I m healthcare worker and i havent even gotten my bivalent, u alrdy gotten yours? my 4th dose appointment is only this week
*usually we are prioritised

Yup senior enough to be eligible for the bivalent Moderna shot. You planning to take it?

[stevechia]

18 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

side effects of pfizer? u experience it ?  of lesser efficacy compared to moderna?

i took all my 3 doses pfizer cos we r the first batch hence there wasnt moderna then ..........
i slept as per normal, no side effect leh

 

u have NOT gotten any covid before? i think i gotten it after my 3rd or is it 2nd dosage due to a bad incident

u are of snr age?

I m healthcare worker and i havent even gotten my bivalent, u alrdy gotten yours? my 4th dose appointment is only this week
*usually we are prioritised

Even in the early days of the mRNA COVID vaccination, it was the general consensus on the internet that Moderna has higher risks of side effects than Pfizer. But whether one would experience serious life threatening side effects from these vaccines I believe depends on the state of the immunity of the individual taking those shots as most of the more serious side effects are the result of some sort of immunity imbalance triggered by these vaccines.

 

I did not experience any serious side effects from my Moderna shots except for sore arm and a slight unease for a couple of days. But the first 2 shots did triggered off a mild case of psoriasis, an autoimmune skin disorder which I had never suffered from from the day I was born. This is actually a side effect that our MOH did not publicise, maybe because they felt that it is not life threatening. But it is extremely irritating and is for all intent and purpose incurable once it occurs. Their doctors and skin specialists are well aware of it though because they are seeing more patients with it after they had taken their mRNA vaccines. A friend of mine had a more serious case of psoriasis which affected his whole body after he took his Moderna shots and he went to a Gahmen skin specialist for consultation and treatment. The specialist told him that they had seen many cases like him and most of these cases had taken the Moderna shots. The polyclinic doctor I went to also told me that the polyclinic had seen many cases of vaccine triggered psoriasis. I was quite lucky as my case was mild and I managed to eventually send it into remission with a trial and error application of various creams and oral supplements until I found a combination that worked for me. My friend unfortunately is still suffering from it to this day. It is not gone permanently as I could still feel it just under the skin ready to flare up when  I am stressed. Luckily the 3rd and bivalent 4th Moderna shots did not cause a flare up for me. Maybe it was because the mRNA content had been lowered below the threshold level that would trigger off a psoriasis flareup in me.

[sgmaven]

1 hour ago, stevechia said:

I had taken 3 doses of Moderna and recently took the bivalent Moderna as the 4th dose. Initially I had wanted to take Novavax for the 4th dose but when the bivalent Moderna was made available locally, I decided to take that instead as it would provide the most up to date protection against Covid. 
For those who had been taking Pfizer shots, there is a chance they might experience greater risks of side effects if they switch to Moderna. This is because the Moderna vaccine has a higher concentration of the mRNA components than that of Pfizer. According to MOH’s website, the first 2 doses of Moderna has 100 mcg of mRNA compared to 33 mcg for Pfizer. Even though the mRNA content of the Moderna booster (3rd dose) and the bivalent Moderna shot has been reduced to 50 mcg, it is still higher than that of the Pfizer vaccine. 

I took the Pfizer vaccine for my first 2 doses, then had the Moderna one as the booster. I didn't feel any worse for wear after the booster though.

[sgmaven]

As for the risk of heart-related side effects (myocarditis, etc), I remember that it also depends on the sex of the recipient. According to studies and statistics, the risks were apparently higher for younger folk too.

[stevechia]

12 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

is that so ? unheard of lah

the netizens blow things up lah

 

skin reaction is ok, nothing major

 

my qn for  u is why didnt u mixed in a pfizer or nova?

and have u gotten covid, when?

The triggering of psoriasis flare ups by Covid vaccines in susceptible individuals are well documented overseas. Just that it is not publicized by our MOH here. Temporary skin reactions like hives and rashes are OK but lifelong afflictions of severe psoriasis can ruin the life of those so afflicted. Just imagine… how to go cruising and attract partners when your body is covered with raised, itchy, flaky and weeping welts.🙁

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8733241/

 

I did want to try Novavax initially as I believe that mixing of vaccines might give better protection than sticking to the same vaccine. Initially MOH tried to make it difficult for those who want to take Novavax as the 2nd booster by restricting its administration to only one JTVC and some private clinics and not sending out invitation for appointments to those seniors who technically would be eligible to get the 2nd booster of their choice. All private clinics administering Novavax do not accept walk-ins and require appointments made on MOH website before they would entertain me.  So I waited until they sent out the SMS invitation and by then, the bivalent Moderna was available. In my opinion, the bivalent Moderna would now be the better choice as it is made with Omicron in mind while Novavax was not, and Omicron and it’s sub variants are running rampant in Singapore.

 

I have not contracted Covid as far as I know as I did not experience any of the slightest symptoms associated with Covid to date, unless I had been totally asymptomatic and did not know it.

[stevechia]

6 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

it takes just a few secs to make appt right, i just made mine not long
WHAT IS SO tough to make an appt?

 

alot of options are available when i was making appt just now
 

MOH did not send out any SMS invitation to make appointment for the 2nd booster to me when I was considering Novavax a couple of months back. So I can’t make any appointment with the private clinics to take the Novavax shot. I made an appointment at the JTVC near my place once they sent out the SMS invitation to me last month to take the bivalent Moderna shot.

[sgmaven]

So far, MOH has only sent invitations for the 2nd boosters for those above 50. So, unless you belong to that demographic group, you won't get any SMS invitation.

[singalion]

4 hours ago, stevechia said:

Even in the early days of the mRNA COVID vaccination, it was the general consensus on the internet that Moderna has higher risks of side effects than Pfizer. But whether one would experience serious life threatening side effects from these vaccines I believe depends on the state of the immunity of the individual taking those shots as most of the more serious side effects are the result of some sort of immunity imbalance triggered by these vaccines.

 

I did not experience any serious side effects from my Moderna shots except for sore arm and a slight unease for a couple of days. But the first 2 shots did triggered off a mild case of psoriasis, an autoimmune skin disorder which I had never suffered from from the day I was born. This is actually a side effect that our MOH did not publicise, maybe because they felt that it is not life threatening. But it is extremely irritating and is for all intent and purpose incurable once it occurs. Their doctors and skin specialists are well aware of it though because they are seeing more patients with it after they had taken their mRNA vaccines. A friend of mine had a more serious case of psoriasis which affected his whole body after he took his Moderna shots and he went to a Gahmen skin specialist for consultation and treatment. The specialist told him that they had seen many cases like him and most of these cases had taken the Moderna shots. The polyclinic doctor I went to also told me that the polyclinic had seen many cases of vaccine triggered psoriasis. I was quite lucky as my case was mild and I managed to eventually send it into remission with a trial and error application of various creams and oral supplements until I found a combination that worked for me. My friend unfortunately is still suffering from it to this day. It is not gone permanently as I could still feel it just under the skin ready to flare up when  I am stressed. Luckily the 3rd and bivalent 4th Moderna shots did not cause a flare up for me. Maybe it was because the mRNA content had been lowered below the threshold level that would trigger off a psoriasis flareup in me.

 

2 hours ago, stevechia said:

The triggering of psoriasis flare ups by Covid vaccines in susceptible individuals are well documented overseas. Just that it is not publicized by our MOH here. Temporary skin reactions like hives and rashes are OK but lifelong afflictions of severe psoriasis can ruin the life of those so afflicted. Just imagine… how to go cruising and attract partners when your body is covered with raised, itchy, flaky and weeping welts.🙁

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8733241/

 

I did want to try Novavax initially as I believe that mixing of vaccines might give better protection than sticking to the same vaccine. Initially MOH tried to make it difficult for those who want to take Novavax as the 2nd booster by restricting its administration to only one JTVC and some private clinics and not sending out invitation for appointments to those seniors who technically would be eligible to get the 2nd booster of their choice. All private clinics administering Novavax do not accept walk-ins and require appointments made on MOH website before they would entertain me.  So I waited until they sent out the SMS invitation and by then, the bivalent Moderna was available. In my opinion, the bivalent Moderna would now be the better choice as it is made with Omicron in mind while Novavax was not, and Omicron and it’s sub variants are running rampant in Singapore.

 

I have not contracted Covid as far as I know as I did not experience any of the slightest symptoms associated with Covid to date, unless I had been totally asymptomatic and did not know it.

 

If you read the medical papers on this from various sources, it seems that it aren't the vaccinations that are causing psoriasis "flare ups" but the covid virus itself.

 

Maybe you should do a antibody test whether you eventually had an covid infection?

 

Depending on your age or immune system, there are people who were infected but due to the minimal symptoms not aware it was Covid. 

 

Quote:

However, a comprehensive review examining the association between COVID-19 vaccination and the occurrence or exacerbation of psoriasis has yet to be performed.

 

 

The article also wrote that all persons had psoriasis prior to the vaccination, which means it weren't any first timers facing a psoriasis situation.

 

 

 

[Guest Wtf]

46 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

that doesnt mean u stop vac

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/repeat-covid-19-riskier-first-infection-death-hospitilisation-study-vaccination-regardless-status-3061726?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR2JTmCyWslt7PUln0Kf2AJJojXjULJHtt2ac37rYbHDfpcnKjslKkACq4o

 

The risk of death, hospitalisation and serious health issues from COVID-19 jumps significantly with reinfection compared with a first bout with the virus, regardless of vaccination status, according to a study published on Thursday (Nov 10). 

"Reinfection with COVID-19 increases the risk of both acute outcomes and long COVID," said Dr Ziyad Al-Aly of Washington University School of Medicine in St Louis. "This was evident in unvaccinated, vaccinated and boosted people."

 

Any potentially useful information you share across your many, many, many posts gets lost in the fact that your posts appear like totally incoherent ramblings. What’s the point with the red, bold, supersize nonsense? Why not just post normally like everybody else? 

[Guest guest]

Finally, no more covid measures. Esp of mandate of wearing mask on public transport, this measure is so silly.

[singalion]

[singalion]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/no-masks-on-public-transport-free-vaccines-6-things-you-need-to-know-as-s-pore-lifts-covid-19-rules

[singalion]

9 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Finally, no more covid measures. Esp of mandate of wearing mask on public transport, this measure is so silly.

 

probably not because it means that the ventilation facilities inside the MRT (or buses) was not optimal.

[singalion]

9 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

shocked that no mbrs discussed nation’s policy at all on a thread ie close to 70pg

 

Nobody prevented you from doing the start....

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Does it mean from 13 Feb, they would not report the number of covid cases?

[singalion]

didn't they give up on this a long time back...

[Guest Wtf]

Where have all the Covid hysterics gone? I miss their deranged and unscientific hysteria… but applaud their humility in staying silent out of  embarrassment 

[Guest guest]

10 hours ago, singalion said:

didn't they give up on this a long time back...

They still report the cases based on the average 7 days.

[Guest Guest]

How many of you still continue to wear mask on public transport from mon onwards?

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Wtf said:

Where have all the Covid hysterics gone? I miss their deranged and unscientific hysteria… but applaud their humility in staying silent out of  embarrassment 

 

The hysteria is also gone here in Houston.  I don't miss it at all.  Same with the hysteria of the anti-vaccine. These hysterics probably hide out of shame, nothing serious happens with the vaccine. All the people I know have accepted vaccination. 

 

But I still wear a mask...   when I collect the leaves in the front of my yard with the blower.  

[bluerunner]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

How many of you still continue to wear mask on public transport from mon onwards?

I will continue to wear mask on public transport. Public transport at peak hours can be really crowded, butt rubs butt situation. Some commuters just love to talk on the phone throughout their journey, some cough and sneeze without covering their mouth and nose.

I find that I hardly have runny nose in the last 3 years. Therefore, I assume the mask helps.

[singalion]

5 hours ago, Guest Wtf said:

Where have all the Covid hysterics gone? I miss their deranged and unscientific hysteria… but applaud their humility in staying silent out of  embarrassment 

 

6.85 million people died from Covid so far. The daily death number from Covid  just yesterday was 2,500 people.

 

Globally, as of 4:00pm CET, 6 February 2023, there have been 755,116,409 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,831,681 deaths, reported to WHO.

https://covid19.who.int/

 

Your post is once again in total disrespect of all those who lost their life, lost loved ones, husbands, wives, kids, grandparents, parents, cousins etc etc.

 

I would be ashamed to write something like above on hysteria etc

 

Would the Singapore government have taken such measures if Covid was harmless?

 

It is really disgraceful what you post here.

 

Edited February 11, 2023 by singalion

[Steve5380]

8 hours ago, bluerunner said:

I

I find that I hardly have runny nose in the last 3 years. Therefore, I assume the mask helps.

 

 

This is excellent.  It may not be just the mask, but you must have a strong immune system.  Something you are doing well.

[Steve5380]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

I would be ashamed to write something like above on hysteria etc

 

Would the Singapore government have taken such measures if Covid was harmless?

 

It is really disgraceful what you post here.

 

 

It might have been that the hysteria Guest Wtf was referring to as deranged and unscientific were the claims of the anti-vaccine, the proponents of idiotic treatments like swallow disinfectant, or just argued that the danger of covid was highly overblown.  This seems to be gone, thank God.

 

Here in the US this started to vanish with the defeat of Trump, and we hear little of the "dangers" of the vaccine,  although many people are still reluctant to get vaccinated.

[Guest Wtf]

10 hours ago, singalion said:

 

6.85 million people died from Covid so far. The daily death number from Covid  just yesterday was 2,500 people.

 

Globally, as of 4:00pm CET, 6 February 2023, there have been 755,116,409 confirmed cases of COVID-19, including 6,831,681 deaths, reported to WHO.

https://covid19.who.int/

 

Your post is once again in total disrespect of all those who lost their life, lost loved ones, husbands, wives, kids, grandparents, parents, cousins etc etc.

 

I would be ashamed to write something like above on hysteria etc

 

Would the Singapore government have taken such measures if Covid was harmless?

 

It is really disgraceful what you post here.

 

wow - so concerned and yet you posted nothing on this topic for the last three months… was that because the media circus had moved om? 

[Notti]

What is Covid in 2023! Done and over in SG!

[singalion]

5 hours ago, Guest Wtf said:

wow - so concerned and yet you posted nothing on this topic for the last three months… was that because the media circus had moved om? 

 

 

I merely pointed to your repugnant attitude to ignore the sorrows of 6.85 million relatives or more who lost their close persons by Covid. 

 

The Singapore government decided to close the covid chapter.

 

News recently concentrated merely on the 4th jab and specialised vaccines. 

 

With this amount of deceased, you still want to claim Covid was just a flu?

 

Then, tell us why governments closed borders and implemented restrictions for more than 2 years, risked business going bankrupt, huge decrease of tax revenue and unemployment, if all was just a circus?

Why did the PRC close the whole country with stringent measures, place large populations into lockdowns and non movement orders until just some weeks ago?

 

Because Covid was just a media circus???

 

 

Edited February 12, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Wtf]

24 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

 

I merely pointed to your repugnant attitude to ignore the sorrows of 6.85 million relatives or more who lost their close persons by Covid. 

 

The Singapore government decided to close the covid chapter.

 

News recently concentrated merely on the 4th jab and specialised vaccines. 

 

With this amount of deceased, you still want to claim Covid was just a flu?

 

Then, tell us why governments closed borders and implemented restrictions for more than 2 years, risked business going bankrupt, huge decrease of tax revenue and unemployment, if all was just a circus?

Why did the PRC close the whole country with stringent measures, place large populations into lockdowns and non movement orders until just some weeks ago?

 

Because Covid was just a media circus???

 

 

woosh, you totally missed the point 

[sum1outhere_03]

@singalion I hope you catch the news during the pandemic. If you look back on the starting of this pandemic, the government (i.e. SG) implemented lockdowns as a measurement to keep us safe. Without any vaccination back then, the situation could look like the picture below. Minimum movement outdoors could help us back then. With the measurements, I did not catch the first four variants back then. It was till the mutated virus Omicron and XBB which got the hold of most of us.  On that node, I obviously caught them outside when having my mask off for a period of time (eating?). 

 

we also feel sad that some companies closed down during pandemic.

But then, the pain point is that humans are used to going out for their day to day life. Flying also stopped. 

Some of these are painful and give us discomfort and force us to do work-arounds, but also gave opportunities especially on the tech side. Now we can use grab to order our food, back then we could attend online classes (if we feel like travelling already a chore). Exams - who cares we open book and refer since it's online? lol.

 

WFH is a privilege cos don't have to take crowded public transport, or squeeze with any other strangers.  No eyes to catch you if you are late etc (I could even turn of my messengers and say I do not like to be disturbed when working and there is whatsapp to contact).

 

To be honest, now that I look back, I hope interviews will still continue to be online cos dont really need to wear formal and get the hell nervous out of you. 

 

 

PS: To be honest, the 0 covid implementation by china was a bit too late because omicron has already made a mess in our lives, so we got to live with it.

Edited February 12, 2023 by sum1outhere_03

[Guest Am I alone?]

I am still not ready to take off my mask.  Not just because it helps me against being infected by other flu (never fall sick  since mask became mandatory),  I also do not want to sit next to smelly person  without having my mask on.  Using public toilet is also more comfortable with mask on, because toilet is also smelly place.  Going to stock up more mask going forward.  

[Guest Guest]

42 minutes ago, Guest Am I alone? said:

I am still not ready to take off my mask.  Not just because it helps me against being infected by other flu (never fall sick  since mask became mandatory),  I also do not want to sit next to smelly person  without having my mask on.  Using public toilet is also more comfortable with mask on, because toilet is also smelly place.  Going to stock up more mask going forward.  

Some guys do look "mysteriously handsome and desirable" with the mask on .... 😝

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMidGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmNoYW5uZWxuZXdzYXNpYS5jb20vY29tbWVudGFyeS9wdWJsaWMtdHJhbnNwb3J0LW1hc2stcnVsZXMtY292aWQtMTktZmx1LXVud2VsbC1oZWFsdGgtc2FmZXR5LW10Zi0zMjY5MDkx0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[jlone]

1 hour ago, Guest Am I alone? said:

I am still not ready to take off my mask.  Not just because it helps me against being infected by other flu (never fall sick  since mask became mandatory),  I also do not want to sit next to smelly person  without having my mask on.  Using public toilet is also more comfortable with mask on, because toilet is also smelly place.  Going to stock up more mask going forward.  

Inside the public transport is where there are lots of germs and viruses lurk and gather. Only those with strong immunity will be spared from infection.

Better to be safe than sorry. 

[Guest guest]

2 hours ago, sum1outhere_03 said:

@singalion I hope you catch the news during the pandemic. If you look back on the starting of this pandemic, the government (i.e. SG) implemented lockdowns as a measurement to keep us safe. Without any vaccination back then, the situation could look like the picture below. Minimum movement outdoors could help us back then. With the measurements, I did not catch the first four variants back then. It was till the mutated virus Omicron and XBB which got the hold of most of us.  On that node, I obviously caught them outside when having my mask off for a period of time (eating?). 

 

we also feel sad that some companies closed down during pandemic.

But then, the pain point is that humans are used to going out for their day to day life. Flying also stopped. 

Some of these are painful and give us discomfort and force us to do work-arounds, but also gave opportunities especially on the tech side. Now we can use grab to order our food, back then we could attend online classes (if we feel like travelling already a chore). Exams - who cares we open book and refer since it's online? lol.

 

WFH is a privilege cos don't have to take crowded public transport, or squeeze with any other strangers.  No eyes to catch you if you are late etc (I could even turn of my messengers and say I do not like to be disturbed when working and there is whatsapp to contact).

 

To be honest, now that I look back, I hope interviews will still continue to be online cos dont really need to wear formal and get the hell nervous out of you. 

 

 

PS: To be honest, the 0 covid implementation by china was a bit too late because omicron has already made a mess in our lives, so we got to live with it.

If govt has already given the green light to move on with life and everything is back to normal, no more covid measures etc. We should go back to pre-covid days, no need to have online interviews etc. Even WFH should not have also. 

[Guest GUest]

9 minutes ago, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMidGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmNoYW5uZWxuZXdzYXNpYS5jb20vY29tbWVudGFyeS9wdWJsaWMtdHJhbnNwb3J0LW1hc2stcnVsZXMtY292aWQtMTktZmx1LXVud2VsbC1oZWFsdGgtc2FmZXR5LW10Zi0zMjY5MDkx0gEA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

I believe majority people do not have social responsibility and they will still go back to their bad old habits, which is sick still go out, still go gathering and still go work. Even when they are sick, they still would not wear a mask when outside. Nothing will change the mindset and habit of people. If the govt already announced no more covid measures, no need to wear mask and everything is back to normal, no one would still wear a mask when they are sick.

 

Just recently my boss is down with cough, not covid but he still go to work and did not bother to wear a mask while in the office, because he find wearing a mask very stuffy. Even others colleague ask him to wear a mask, but he still don't listen and do what he likes. So i think most people also behave such a way, nothing will change them.

[Guest Guest]

9 minutes ago, jlone said:

Inside the public transport is where there are lots of germs and viruses lurk and gather. Only those with strong immunity will be spared from infection.

Better to be safe than sorry. 

I guess maybe many people still might put on a mask in public transport for the first few weeks, but i think by second half of the year, many people would simply just mask off. And by year end majority would not continue to wear a mask in public, as it feel so silly wearing a mask when you are not sick, and people around you are not wearing a mask. Other people might find that you are kiasi and living in the cave since covid pandemic has over and has become just like common flu.

[sum1outhere_03]

12 minutes ago, Guest GUest said:

I believe majority people do not have social responsibility and they will still go back to their bad old habits, which is sick still go out, still go gathering and still go work. Even when they are sick, they still would not wear a mask when outside. Nothing will change the mindset and habit of people. If the govt already announced no more covid measures, no need to wear mask and everything is back to normal, no one would still wear a mask when they are sick.

 

Just recently my boss is down with cough, not covid but he still go to work and did not bother to wear a mask while in the office, because he find wearing a mask very stuffy. Even others colleague ask him to wear a mask, but he still don't listen and do what he likes. So i think most people also behave such a way, nothing will change them.

Indeed. Guest, u can maybe try use the image below LOL

 

1) I am so suay until almost every.single.time, when I go out especially take public transport or in public eating, confirm got at least one case of continuous coughing. Even if it's caused by spicy food, it's still scary.

There are some "idiots" - just released news only, yesterday night got a lady not wearing mask and dun feel pai seh. She didn't even try to cover her mouth. Some already anyhow wear their mask when in transport way before the news released. Not to mention, when you do business and hear people coughing in other cubicles. Ew. 

 

2) I also had a colleague (not my department) who was sneezing continuously and blowing nose on one of the days I was in office. In my heart I was like come on, no social responsibility? Cannot tell boss u stay home and work? Must come office and spread virus? Although her blown nose tissue paper is thrown into the bin, virus "has legs" and it can still fly around although you are masked! -_-||| 

 

    

Edited February 12, 2023 by sum1outhere_03

[Guest Guest]

Some asian minded bosses maybe don't like their subordinates to stay at home to work (even if they are sick) - perceived as trying to skive from work, lazy etc.

 

I had a friend who got chicken pox and was given the normal 14 days MC. Towards the end of the MC (maybe like the 11th or 12th day, he was already in the sauna (since MC = day off mah). I was like 😱!

[lonelyglobe]

3 hours ago, Guest Am I alone? said:

I am still not ready to take off my mask.  Not just because it helps me against being infected by other flu (never fall sick  since mask became mandatory),  I also do not want to sit next to smelly person  without having my mask on.  Using public toilet is also more comfortable with mask on, because toilet is also smelly place.  Going to stock up more mask going forward.  

Toilet definitely need to put on mask with all the "pui pui" going on, is a hotbed for all kind of flu, not to mention the shit smell. 

 

I dont see the urgency for removing mask in crowded public transport. Like many mention,  is not only prevention of covid but also other kind of flu. Prior to covid era, flu is an annual event but for past 3 years, nothing happen.  

 

If u lke to have a taste of covid,  then yes, remove mask especially in crowded transport, otherwise keep them on. 

[Guest Wtf]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Some guys do look "mysteriously handsome and desirable" with the mask on .... 😝

yes, because it covers half their face