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aiya, different folks different strokes... there are ugly ones who dig pretty ones and there are those who will reject pretty ones too... no big deal being pretty, young or have muscular built because physical appearance fades with time, we all grow old and our body tissue will lose its tone.

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dienasaw, i agree what u say, but pls don't dig those most 10/100 or 20/100 cases to talk about, that's only by those ppl who like to eat sour grapes IQ spirits will mention.

U got the most important point, all will grow old, so any thing wrong with those young handsome guys been picky & reject those that are almost " expire "? I don't find them attitude, you want them to wait till they old then start to behave like most ppl here like to complain & let those history repeated? :rolleyes: Why you all don't say those old uncles never look at themself? Not fair right?

How you all define as attitude problem? When someone handsome reject you & refuse to talk to you? Have you ever meet those who so thick skin uncles ( don't mention which sauna ) even you told them they are not ur type still follow you everywhere & continue touching you? Then what you all say about that? Over Friendly or what? :lol: This type call no attitude problem?

Wake up, actually everyone know the Truth & the Facts, just most of the people refuse to grow up in mind & refuse to accept they get rejected. Those handsome guys like to pose at sauna is their business, no one have the right to say anything about it.

Frankly, i no problem if i really get rejected by handsome fit guys, but more insulting when rejected by old uncles with no built, no offence when i say something that is commonly & is a Truth.

Always uncles here like to complain TC boys etc, why cant turn around & say those uncles " old cow eat young Grass ?"

Be Fair to those TC & gd looking guys, open your heart rather than sound like naive & childish. If some uncles here like to eat sour grapes, most of others still prefer those big juicy grapes, no point blame others, dare to admit it is a mature man should do.

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Frankly, i no problem if i really get rejected by handsome fit guys, but more insulting when rejected by old uncles with no built, no offence when i say something that is commonly & is a Truth.

Hypocrisy in disguised!

Why should you feel insulted when an old uncle rejected you (..with no built), and not otherwise when "handsome fit guys" do the same.

Is this not discrimination and sour grape at work? If you are so enlightened and perfect then you should treat all cases equal and not start shouting whether it is an old uncle or a handsome guy who rejected you.

We are all imperfect human beings with feelings, just let others have some space to express their feelings and not to be so work out about it.

If you abide by the principle that individual has the right to choose whom he wants to go with then surely an old uncle is also entitles to his. Maybe you are not good enough for him or he has special preference?

When people are complaining about TC guys, probably they are referring to their body language which is offensive and not their rejection.

Guys go to the sauna to cruise for sex and ultimately their will look for the target scanning around the crowd and testing water to see if the other party is interested. But many of the TC boys are so rude that they pissed people off.

If these TC boys do not feel comfortable with people scanning them for sex then they are in the wrong place. They should not come to the sauna in the first place.

Being young and gorgeous has its privileges but do not over extend your rights and space. Live and let live.

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to all the guys who constantly get rejected

just go and buy a guy

young fit handsome - choose to fit your desires

just spend a little money

i do this once in a while - its heaven

knowing that i own this fantastic body for the hour that I paid for :thumb:

Tried that before.

Proabably you are a top so buying a bottom is not much a problem as you choose your type and fxxked him however you wanted and paid him off well.

But for a bottom it can be a problem because many of these money boys are straight and they actually do not enjoy fxxking a guy. They do out of cash and you know what is the result.

The bottom can feel that it is just a face job. He will try to finish you off quickly probably jerking you off as he fxxked you.

When it is a true gay top who likes you the session is very difficult because he would suck, rim and do a lot of things to turm you on and horny. And he really enjoy fxxking you which can be felt strongly by the bottom.

Good tops are very hard to come by.

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where to buy a guy newguy2?

A normal massage already cost about S$100, if you have to add in sex especially if anal is involved, it could easly cost around S$200.

Therefore buying a guy is not for the ordinary commoners, how often can you afford it?

Even in BKK without factoring in the airfare and hotel, a session would be less than S$100 and you are not gurantee satisfisation.

No choice but have to resume to sauna cruising.

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Hypocrisy in disguised...

When people are complaining about TC guys, probably they are referring to their body language which is offensive and many of the TC boys are so rude that they pissed people off...

Being young and gorgeous has its privileges but do not over extend your rights and space. Live and let live.

TCOS, you are right? why don't you call those who like to eat sour prapes uncles not to go TC but other sauna that suit they kind & grp & leave those handsome fit guys alone? Unless during TC full moon party when all type & all kind of people gathering around.If those like to complain here & there, yet still like to go, prepare to face the music & prepare to get " insult " if you want to disturb someone much more better than yourself.

U know what you are talking? What you mean by body language? Why i never find that those TC guys attitude problem b4 & able to make friends with quite afew of them include those staffs? If those patronize so rude, why still so many people like to hunt there?

I always beware & know where i stand, i will never over confident with my look & built when i should not, but most time just they say i only lack of confident, however i prefer that rather than over thick skin.

I not here to start a battle or a war, cos too much " mature uncles " here really don't behave like the age they should, maybe they still stay in their past.

When the TC reopen, those who like to eat sour grapes & hate TC boys better not go anymore. If you are a man, hate then don't go & do, say like a man & let your action act like a man too.

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by all means let the young good looking ones exercise their power to reject others cos they will also experience rejection in due course. it's a fair world! anyway, this thread is about 17, why talk so much about TC which is in a comatose state at this point. 17 rules!

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I not here to start a battle or a war, cos too much " mature uncles " here really don't behave like the age they should, maybe they still stay in their past.

So it is confirmed that Blowing Wind is a place for all the old, ugly and unreasonable uncles lurking around the dark corners of TC ever ready to launch their vicious attack on the young gorgeous TC boys.

Be grateful old, ugly and unreasonable uncles of BW when a TC boy cruises you because you are plain lucky otherwise you are just dirt in a corner, so say your prayer of thanks when TC boys fxxk you.

Do not reject TC boys otherwise they will be insulted and remember never never put a finger on any TC boys if you are not cruised; because you are then old cow trying to eat green grass.

Dear uncles of BW we shall resign our fate to One Seven.

Long live One Seven for all the old, ugly and unreasonable uncles.

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Reading all the posts about TCboys all that is really interesting. I do agree with those who say that since a guy is well built and good-looking he can choose who he wants to have fun with.. its his right.

I do agree also that it is s vicious cycle after all... these good lookers will grow old one day - some sooner than others - and I have been in the scene to know this for sure. And these one time good looking hunks will have to contend with younger breed of hunks that emerge... it just goes on.

I remember this one particular hunk that use to spurn my advances in the past. Recently though - it has been about 5-8 years since - he allowed me to touch him and even more... (shall not go into details). Of course time has taken its toll on him... he has put one some weight, forhead has recedded a little, but still he looks nice in a distinguished way...

Gyms and Saunas are meat markets, the prized cuts rule the roost. Cannot change that... attitudes can be changed though...

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For those who are rejected, please withdraw with dignity and move on. Do not lose any more face by persisting. Surely you have more self respect.

For those who are doing the rejecting, please do not be rude. Say "no", "sorry",

"you are not my type" and move away. Remember you too will grow old eventually.

Like it or not, we have to accept that there will be all sorts of ages and body shapes going to the bathhouse. We should treat everyone with civility since they have paid their money and have an equal right as you and me to be there. If we are going to be posey and picky and superior and feel we are too good for the rest of them, my advice is to stay home or to open your own bathhouse and invite only those you like.

Let's behave with good grace, the bathhouse/bar/gym will be a better place and we will stop bitching.

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i remember once rejected by a hunky guy about my same age..... but after 10yr i saw him again in certain cruising place, he looks old and out of shape.... and he trying to cruise me :D

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Err i think enuff already on this topic...

Its clear that there will be no wavering of standpoints and the differences of opinions will continue...so let it be and lets just focus on the topic here? HOT TIMES at 17. Ok guys?

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Program for the month of Dec:

19 DEc eve of Hari Raya Haji - Leather or Nude nite till the next morning.

21 - 25 Dec opens 24 hours throughout and refreshment for Xmas eve and NY eve.

Promotion $5 off your next visit.

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As one of the TC regular, i may like to highlight the point that rejecting someone sometimes does not make me feel good as well. He came, stood infront of me, trying to establish eye contact, then moved to my side.....touching my side butt....though i tried to move an inch away, he moved closer. Then he daring trying to touch me further downwards....No more choice but to shield his hand away....smiled and moved away. I did not want to look back and i felt sorry for him as well. Some even taking advantage when i romanced with a guy in an open corridor while waiting for a cubicle, they tried to push their hands between us...fishing our things...once i seen someone's hand got slapped and again, i felt sorry for that guy...Once a guy simply squatted down and tried to perform oral sex on us...How could we not resist ? Sigh....We need our space and we have the right to choose...and not all of us has attitude but please dun push us further till we have to show our rejection in some harsh ways.

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Hmm... Had not been to 17 for months... Maybe I should pop to take a look...

Buaya, if happen if you off or on leave, go before 1pm during mon to thurs, cos u entitle 2 free entry for the next 2 visits, think is a good deal even u have to pay for $20.

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Yes Buaya, 2 free entry but can only use during weekday, mon - thurs, one free entry is from 11.30am to 1pm, another free entry is from 11.30 to 4pm, don't think got expire date

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I had not been going to 17 for 2 months becos of the spillage of TC attitude problematic kids. I luv 17, especially the fri nude nite, where I can go there and relax myself, sometimes, dun wan to get hooked up, just wan to walk naked, just be myself. At 17, I can have a lot of choices, from young to mature, from different races. I am a muscular btm, but I dun do anal with a stranger. I usually like kissing, licking, rimming and sucking. I am happy to see TC finally closed down, but sad to know that all the TC buaya are coming over to 17 to spoil the culture and mood at 17. I used to receive very good comments from my circle of friends about 17 that it is a clean and very friendly environment. But eversince TC coming over, even my circle of friends had switched over to shogun for another choice.

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I had not been going to 17 for 2 months becos of the spillage of TC attitude problematic kids. I luv 17, especially the fri nude nite, where I can go there and relax myself, sometimes, dun wan to get hooked up, just wan to walk naked, just be myself. At 17, I can have a lot of choices, from young to mature, from different races. I am a muscular btm, but I dun do anal with a stranger. I usually like kissing, licking, rimming and sucking. I am happy to see TC finally closed down, but sad to know that all the TC buaya are coming over to 17 to spoil the culture and mood at 17. I used to receive very good comments from my circle of friends about 17 that it is a clean and very friendly environment. But eversince TC coming over, even my circle of friends had switched over to shogun for another choice.

i cant imagine rimming an asshole whom i dunno the person well least to say the physical contact is less than an hr.

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i cant imagine rimming an asshole whom i dunno the person well least to say the physical contact is less than an hr.

Some say they cannot imagine 2 men having sex. So why u do it?

Simple!! u r sexcited.

Most of us find rimming yucky. That is why most of us r btms. Only a top is sexcited about another man's hole so much that he rims it and then fxxked it. U think u lugi for giving yrself to a top but remember he has to accept yr yucky hole. So it's all even and that's why tops and btms enjoy anal sex so much. Only the closeted queens like to feel superior and pass remarks like a frustrated old maid.

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Not sure if there is much going on 17 during those hours ...

if you are good looking, which day & what time you go, you will get hold of most people attention, you will able to have a good catch with lots of good looking guys wanting to cruise you, else even you go during peak hour & nude night, your appear will just kill the beautiful scene

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Not sure if there is much going on 17 during those hours ...

That is the BEST time to go! I'm so shocked that there are so many cock hungry btms at 2pm on a weekday afternoon. A lot of them came from the office in shirt+tie. Once I even met this btm who was in a suit! So much horny guys... maybe they are married, attached or just plain horny!

Funny how so many of them will disappear at 4:30pm..

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There are many closet gays around. Some are eating snake going during the office hours. Others because of their profession like teachers, doctors and lawyers like to go during those hours to avoid over exposure.

Normally these group of people are mature and better choice because they are not too choosy whom they meet up just want to satisfy their needs. They are also more able to handle their own emotion and pragmatic.

But only if you have the time during these hours. So basically they are also restricted to their own group of guys whom can go during these hours.

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As one of the TC regular, i may like to highlight the point that rejecting someone sometimes does not make me feel good as well. He came, stood infront of me, trying to establish eye contact, then moved to my side.....touching my side butt....though i tried to move an inch away, he moved closer. Then he daring trying to touch me further downwards....No more choice but to shield his hand away....smiled and moved away. I did not want to look back and i felt sorry for him as well. Some even taking advantage when i romanced with a guy in an open corridor while waiting for a cubicle, they tried to push their hands between us...fishing our things...once i seen someone's hand got slapped and again, i felt sorry for that guy...Once a guy simply squatted down and tried to perform oral sex on us...How could we not resist ? Sigh....We need our space and we have the right to choose...and not all of us has attitude but please dun push us further till we have to show our rejection in some harsh ways.

i guess there is a difference between a regular TC and a regular 17. At 17, I often encounter people squatting to suck your dick in dark corners. For me, it is ok and I wun feel irritated. I wun push him away. I will kindly tell him that I dun like to be sucked. I dun like goodlooking guys. They are always kind of attitude problem. I sometimes encounter goodlooking guys with good bod approaching me. I will give them a hug and tell them nicely that they are not my type and I will walk off. No matter how, I think it is not right to treat our fellow brothers in harsh ways. I had not been to TC for many years. I remember the first and only time when I visit TC was when it was newly opened. At TC, you will see 'models' standing proudly at you. These models will not even say hi to you. But at 17, you will never encountered this kind of incidents. Everybody is friendly, though there will be some who think that they are gooddess. Overall, at 17, you will get someone to make your day.

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Last nite I was rudely rejected by one of the TC boy.

I was in the jail area and this TC boy came in, I moved further into the area where the sling was and he too moved forward.

Standing there for a moment and eyeing on him, he too was looking into my direction. So I picked up my courage to inch forward and lightly stroke his outer thigh and with a snap of his hand rudely pushed away my hand with disgust and walked out of the area.

I felt very embrassed and angry. First you had given signals intentionally or otherwise by moving in and looking into my direction. I was only testing water with a light touch to see your intention, you did not need to be so rude if you were not interested. After all sauna is a silent language cruising arena where everyone is guessing what is in the other's mind.

For me when someone approached me, I will let me touch or feel me for a while and having established the first contact, if I am not interested I will hold on to his hand and light put it back to his chest with a smile. Most of the time the other party is happy and walked off with a smile.

Perhaps most of the TC boys are young and gorgeous and maybe that is the reason for them to be so unskillful in human relationship which most of the sauna goers acclaimed. We grow old with wisdom and grace and hope that most of the TC boys will do so.

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Last nite I was rudely rejected by one of the TC boy.

I was in the jail area and this TC boy came in, I moved further into the area where the sling was and he too moved forward.

Standing there for a moment and eyeing on him, he too was looking into my direction. So I picked up my courage to inch forward and lightly stroke his outer thigh and with a snap of his hand rudely pushed away my hand with disgust and walked out of the area.

I felt very embrassed and angry. First you had given signals intentionally or otherwise by moving in and looking into my direction. I was only testing water with a light touch to see your intention, you did not need to be so rude if you were not interested. After all sauna is a silent language cruising arena where everyone is guessing what is in the other's mind.

For me when someone approached me, I will let me touch or feel me for a while and having established the first contact, if I am not interested I will hold on to his hand and light put it back to his chest with a smile. Most of the time the other party is happy and walked off with a smile.

Perhaps most of the TC boys are young and gorgeous and maybe that is the reason for them to be so unskillful in human relationship which most of the sauna goers acclaimed. We grow old with wisdom and grace and hope that most of the TC boys will do so.

if young boys are undesirable with their attitude, u sld have learnt your lesson and not to cruise any young boy unless they r the one who touch u first ;p

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Good things come in 3.

Monday 17 is double nude.

Wednesday 19 is eve of Haji a leather/nude nite till next am.

Friday 21 is the usual nude nite.

So many skin nites you better save your cum and bring along your viagra.

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just got back from 17.. had fun with 3 hotties.. one is this tall young chinese guy with nice dick and has 3 big tattoos on his bod with a leather cock ring.. so high seeing all the cocks.. got fxxked by 2 and i fxxked one... must go every week now...

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Thanks Mr rejectbyTC sharing his not so happy encounter. I expereince the same too last night but my case happen in the dark maze. I used to touch by people or touch people in the dark maze. Usually if we are not keen to contiune will just gently push the hand away so no bad feeling. But last night I got slapped on hand and push away violently that really spoiled my mood. I don't even know who I touched (dark maze too dark). Some people is just too serious, relax please.

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Was my first time going to 17 on a Friday evening, and paid only $23 instead of $27 before 5pm. It seems packed when the middle lockers had all been taken. The crowd was a mixed of 17 crowd with ex-TC crowd, you can pretty much tell, who

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Inside the room, I took off his towel revealing a semi erect dick. I pinned him to the wall as I ravaged his neck, which seems to me is his soft spot. It soon appears that he may be another top. And I confirmed it when I tried to dig my fingers into his ass. It was really tight. Sad but true, he told me that he is indeed a top. Well, life's such. I did enjoyed myself with him however short lived it was. He was rather sporty and there wasn't an ex-TC attitude. We parted ways and I continued to look for my first fxxk. (To be continued)

Friday is nude night and towel is not allowed... so an unbelievable story!!

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Was my first time going to 17 on a Friday evening, and paid only $23 instead of $27 before 5pm.

Please read carefully, nude starts at 6pm. I was there at 5pm. I have 1 hour. While we were at the room, the staff was going around tell customers to remove their towels.

Believe it....or not.

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There are 2 type of guys in sauna.

1. These guys like to talk to you first before proceeding to any action. Normally they will like to ask the following questions:

1. What is your name?

2. How old are you?

3. What are you doing (job)?

4. How often you come to sauna?

5. You have any bf?

They can carry on talking the whole night if you play along and probably after an hour of aunty conversation you have lost any sexual interest in them.

Probably both can spend the whole night inside the room hugging and telling your life stories without any cumming.

2. These guys do not like to talk but rather let their body do the conversation. They prefer to signal you into a corner or into the private room. Then they will go straight to the point, if a nude nite he will start playing your bod or kneel down to suck for you. After the foreplay he will indicate his intention either he want to be fxxked or he wants to fxxk you.

Straight to the point and finishs off without much words or not at all.

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