Mediacorp Artists - News And Gossips 新传媒新闻和八卦 (Compiled)

[Guest LOL]

I shall not bother continuing arguing with a cunt like you.

Oooh, first it was making baseless assumptions.

Now you've degenerated into name-calling.

What's next, fxxking your father's CB? *gasp*

[Guest Guest]

I feel that all of you are being very unfair to Ah Jie.

Give her a break!

1. Stop blaming Zoe for the box office failure of Love Cuts.

Love Cuts is a serious movie about breast cancer, it's not a comedy or a ghost movie.

If Zoe wasn't the lead actress, the box office would have been far worse.

Stop wrongfully accusing Zoe of being a box office poison!

2. Zoe is still very versatile, just look at her different looks in magazine covers and centrespreads.

Just because she's been taking on mother roles doesn't mean she's no longer versatile.

She was great as a scheming career woman in Ultimatum, she was even nominated for Asia's Best Actress alongside Michelle Yim.

3. Zoe doesn't care about being an international superstar or getting Hollywood offers.

She's a good mother to 3 sons and is just trying her best to be a good actress.

Why so many evil words for her? Please do some self-reflection.

1. Thanks for the joke, I can't decide to laugh or cry.

If it's cancerous, should have gone direct toFree to air TV to save Ah jie the embarrassment.

Next time must force Jack Neo, Royston Tan, Boo Junfeng and other directors to put Ah Jie in their comedy and horror movie instead.

Don't understand why all of them never approach her before.

By the way, last time her TREE was cancerous also?

2. Can you find me different magazines with the same model covergirl wearing the same makeup, hairstyle, same background, and same pose?

Anyone can look different on photos if there are different stylist to give them different looks.

Correction, not no longer versatile, she was never versatile to begin with.

Versatility when it comes to acting is another thing.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/versatile

Does her versatility allow her to act in a period drama convincingly? Madam Lu Erniang?

Don't deny, if she can, mediacorp would have casted her in all the period dramas.

3. Not doesn't care, it's CANNOT CARE, want also don't have.

Ivy Lee's acting improved after giving birth, Huang Biren also all the time good even though her husband ...nm. All the other good mother actresses like Hong Huifang, Xiangyun, Pan Lingling, also maintain standard. I wonder why Ah jie need to use 3 sons as excuse.

Where got evil words for her?? I wish her good luck, hope Mediacorp can continue to let her sit on the throne long long. :clap:

[Guest Sun Shines]

Where got evil words for her?? I wish her good luck, hope Mediacorp can continue to let her sit on the throne long long. :clap:

Wah, you very Sarcastic, but I like. Ha ha

[abang]

Zoe has her limits - she does not have the traditional "Chinese" looks - she is never that good-looking (when comparing with her peers like Pan Ling Ling and Xiang Yun).

She was casted in period dramas before and it was totally "SALAH". She looks more like a "Transexual from Bugis Street".

She has totally lost her clout... you see when she came into the scene in 1989, Xiang Yun's status was shakened. XY had a dark period of about 5 to 8 years before landing all the wonderful roles as "your average-looking neighbourhood AUNTY".

Zoe should accept that she is no longer at the peak of her career. Local writers tried very hard to provide her with good roles (the HIV/AIDS' victim's wife opposite Chen Han Wei). It was a role better suited for a more accompolished actress.

If you looked at the pairing of CHW and Rui En recently, you realised how terrible Zoe was in that drama. Rui En was very impressive but she did not wear the same deadpan look throughout the show. Of course, this script was made more refreshing with the addition of Adrian 'Scene-stealer' Pang.

So, at the end of the day, we cannot lament over the good old days. What local TV needs to do is to rectify the situation...

It is funny how HDB aunties embraced "爱“ ”夜市人生“ faithfully.

The second show has the same set of actors and their storyline aint all that NEW but these shows worked in Taiwan and now, in Singapore.

It is hightime for local TV show producers to examine and dissect their flaws and improve their standard of their offerings.

[Starsshine]

1. Thanks for the joke, I can't decide to laugh or cry.

If it's cancerous, should have gone direct toFree to air TV to save Ah jie the embarrassment.

Next time must force Jack Neo, Royston Tan, Boo Junfeng and other directors to put Ah Jie in their comedy and horror movie instead.

Don't understand why all of them never approach her before.

By the way, last time her TREE was cancerous also?

2. Can you find me different magazines with the same model covergirl wearing the same makeup, hairstyle, same background, and same pose?

Anyone can look different on photos if there are different stylist to give them different looks.

Correction, not no longer versatile, she was never versatile to begin with.

Versatility when it comes to acting is another thing.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/versatile

Does her versatility allow her to act in a period drama convincingly? Madam Lu Erniang?

Don't deny, if she can, mediacorp would have casted her in all the period dramas.

3. Not doesn't care, it's CANNOT CARE, want also don't have.

Ivy Lee's acting improved after giving birth, Huang Biren also all the time good even though her husband ...nm. All the other good mother actresses like Hong Huifang, Xiangyun, Pan Lingling, also maintain standard. I wonder why Ah jie need to use 3 sons as excuse.

Where got evil words for her?? I wish her good luck, hope Mediacorp can continue to let her sit on the throne long long. :clap:

1. The point is that Zoe should not be blamed for every single time her box office or viewership fails.

There are other factors contributing to the failure too. Why must Zoe always be singled out?

Please give her the credit for adding to the star power of the show.

2. Zoe has acted successfully in most genres of dramas since the start of her career.

Her role as Lu Er Niang was a walk-on cameo role meant to increase the marketability of that drama serial.

Anyway, she looks good in that drama too, definitely not like a transsexual as someone said.

3. Zoe never used her 3 sons or motherhood as an excuse for the current state of her career.

She is now focusing on motherhood and acting is just a side job to her. Do you really think she cares about being called Queen, Ah Jie?

She is more humble than that, all she wants is to act in peace and stop her detractors from continuously focusing on her flaws.

[oralb]

By the way, who (amongst us) still watch Channel 8 programmes faithfully?

Who had been sitting in front of your television set at 7 pm, 9 pm from Monday to Friday?

Not me... I recently saw the nominations for Star Awards and realized that for the Nth years, I had not watched a single locally produced drama.

Partly due to work, mostly due to much better HK and US drama that you can watch online. I am now following "Modern Family" just finished season 1 and going to season 2.

[Siliconey]

I am looking forward to the upcoming year-end drama by MediaCorp called A Song To Remember 星洲之夜. Wonder who will eventually be cast.

From Paul Chan's blog:

3 outstanding female artistes and 1 male lead will be selected to play the 3 most important songstresses roles and the musician role…

上世纪40年代，战火遍布，风雨飘摇。上海丽明歌舞团的两大台柱――于红、宋巧儿却在舞台上争得面红耳赤。宋巧儿视于红为眼中钉，誓要除之而后快。于红不愿被宋巧儿踩在脚下，竭力反抗。二人明争暗斗，势同水火。于红和宋巧儿的斗争随着南来愈显激烈，宋巧儿欲一举铲除于红，但于红不惜出卖肉体进行反击，终取代宋巧儿，升为剧团一把手，红遍全星洲。

青年音乐家莫理广从上海来到第二次大战爆发前夕的星洲，投靠远房亲戚。他是个书呆气很重的“文艺青年”，爱幻想，醉心音乐，对人情世故毫不敏感，常闹出不少笑话。他在南来的船上邂逅于红，对她一往情深。

刘九妹身世凄凉，从小被养母当成摇钱树，到处卖唱，后来还在新世界歌厅当“汽水妹”，饱受欺凌，但她生性乐观，更会苦中作乐，整天幻想自己有一日能在舞台上载歌载舞。她与莫理广患难与共，爱上了莫理广，但莫理广却心系于红，九妹只好把爱深藏心底。

于红邀请莫理广进剧团，并为被卖入妓院的九妹赎身。九妹视于红为救命恩人，对她充满感激，但于红却发现九妹的歌舞才华是对她的威胁，她想办法压制九妹，但事与愿违，九妹在宋巧儿刻意的督导下，歌舞突飞猛进，于红为保住自己的地位，欲除掉九妹，就像当年宋巧儿欲除掉她一样。

随着大战即将爆发，局势混乱，大家的命运又会如何？Before the start of World War 2, the war of the women already begins with 宋巧儿, 于红 and 刘九妹 entangling many other characters with them... including the likeable No.1 male lead role 莫理广.

Edited March 6, 2011 by Siliconey

[Guest Guest]

Wah, you very Sarcastic, but I like. Ha ha

This was not meant to be sarcastic.

I really mean it, she was put up the throne by mediacorp, nowadays performance not on par still put up there, so wish her good luck, mediacorp will continue to put her up there long long.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

This was not meant to be sarcastic.

I really mean it, she was put up the throne by mediacorp, nowadays performance not on par still put up there, so wish her good luck, mediacorp will continue to put her up there long long.

Actually, of the serials that she has done since pregnancies, I thought the Aids drama was her best. Seriously I thought she deserved to be nominated, she was incredibly touching, moving n understated in there.

[Guest Guest]

1. The point is that Zoe should not be blamed for every single time her box office or viewership fails.

There are other factors contributing to the failure too. Why must Zoe always be singled out?

Please give her the credit for adding to the star power of the show.

2. Zoe has acted successfully in most genres of dramas since the start of her career.

Her role as Lu Er Niang was a walk-on cameo role meant to increase the marketability of that drama serial.

Anyway, she looks good in that drama too, definitely not like a transsexual as someone said.

3. Zoe never used her 3 sons or motherhood as an excuse for the current state of her career.

She is now focusing on motherhood and acting is just a side job to her. Do you really think she cares about being called Queen, Ah Jie?

She is more humble than that, all she wants is to act in peace and stop her detractors from continuously focusing on her flaws.

1. It is not easy for fans to see things objectively. Did you say STAR POWER?

Some people claimed that Zoe is a screen saver, she lends her presence and the show will be a success. So bah bai!? This has proven repeatedly not to be the case. The same people have other tall hats for Zoe, but she doesn't live up to all those ridiculous claims either.

It is not by coincidence that almost all the shows with her in it for the past 10 years all happened to be flops, it is also no coincidence that shows without her were more successful. Little nonya, Unriddle, Housewives Holiday, Together, The golden path.

If she has such star power, every director would be dying to have her in their movies, wake up and smell the coffee.

2. Are you in serious denial? A 5 mins cameo role increases marketability of a drama serial? I have no further comments to that.

3. She didn't, you did. People are all finding justifications for her non performance, they cannot come to terms that their idol is performing so badly. So this wonderful mother wants to focus on motherhood while acting is just a sideline to her, that is why not doing so well? While the other wonderful actress are doing well because motherhood is a sideline to them? I am amazed. :clap:

[Guest facepalm]

I am looking forward to the upcoming year-end drama by MediaCorp called A Song To Remember 星洲之夜. Wonder who will eventually be cast.

From Paul Chan's blog:

3 outstanding female artistes and 1 male lead will be selected to play the 3 most important songstresses roles and the musician role…

上世纪40年代，战火遍布，风雨飘摇。上海丽明歌舞团的两大台柱――于红、宋巧儿却在舞台上争得面红耳赤。宋巧儿视于红为眼中钉，誓要除之而后快。于红不愿被宋巧儿踩在脚下，竭力反抗。二人明争暗斗，势同水火。于红和宋巧儿的斗争随着南来愈显激烈，宋巧儿欲一举铲除于红，但于红不惜出卖肉体进行反击，终取代宋巧儿，升为剧团一把手，红遍全星洲。

青年音乐家莫理广从上海来到第二次大战爆发前夕的星洲，投靠远房亲戚。他是个书呆气很重的“文艺青年”，爱幻想，醉心音乐，对人情世故毫不敏感，常闹出不少笑话。他在南来的船上邂逅于红，对她一往情深。

刘九妹身世凄凉，从小被养母当成摇钱树，到处卖唱，后来还在新世界歌厅当“汽水妹”，饱受欺凌，但她生性乐观，更会苦中作乐，整天幻想自己有一日能在舞台上载歌载舞。她与莫理广患难与共，爱上了莫理广，但莫理广却心系于红，九妹只好把爱深藏心底。

于红邀请莫理广进剧团，并为被卖入妓院的九妹赎身。九妹视于红为救命恩人，对她充满感激，但于红却发现九妹的歌舞才华是对她的威胁，她想办法压制九妹，但事与愿违，九妹在宋巧儿刻意的督导下，歌舞突飞猛进，于红为保住自己的地位，欲除掉九妹，就像当年宋巧儿欲除掉她一样。

随着大战即将爆发，局势混乱，大家的命运又会如何？Before the start of World War 2, the war of the women already begins with 宋巧儿, 于红 and 刘九妹 entangling many other characters with them... including the likeable No.1 male lead role 莫理广.

MEDIACORP!!! 刘九妹?????

Sheren Tang with her excellent Miss Kau, 郑九妹 is still fresh on everyone's mind and you want to use 刘九妹 as a name out of the endless names possible.

[Guest Guest]

Actually, of the serials that she has done since pregnancies, I thought the Aids drama was her best. Seriously I thought she deserved to be nominated, she was incredibly touching, moving n understated in there.

It was a good drama, but she was left out in the cold, it's like no one even bothered about her role.

CHW won Best actor, CHW, RE and Elvin won fav characters.

Nothing for Zoe.

[Guest Guest]

Her role as Lu Er Niang was a walk-on cameo role meant to increase the marketability of that drama serial.

I cannot understand how the use of walk-on cameo roles would increase marketability.

Does it mean the lead roles are not good enough, so they need this 5 min cameo's starpower to boost viewership?

Must really credit her for lending her 5 min starpower to the success of Condor Heroes! :thumb: :thumb:

Does your cameo theory work the same way here?

A certain big star in a touching cancer story is certainly not good enough.

The producers are not even confident that it would even sell and they had to included every trick in the book, even making it look soft pxxn.

1. Hunk and big bust cameo to pose partial naked for promo shoot, suggest a sex scene.

Sex sells, lure the gay crowd who wants to see Allan, the straight crowd who wants to see Christy

2. Interview on Ah Jie's virginal experience with movie poster photoshop cut and paste.

http://www.divaasia.com/article/10122

3. Interview on Ah Jie's virginal first screen bath wearing a tube.

http://www.divaasia.com/article/10122

All the fuss for $90k box office.

Maybe Ah jie should stick to 5min cameo roles instead of lead roles?

[Guest Nabisco]

To Starsshine:

It's supporters like you who keep unrealistically hyping Zoe up as Queen, Ah Jie, and then keep finding excuses for her failures.

Why shouldn't Zoe be blamed for the box office failures? She headlined those movies, didn't she?

And why shouldn't Zoe be blamed for the bad viewership for Ultimatum? She was the star of the show, isn't she? Fann's role was like plain water compared to hers. Even LNX was relegated to being her toyboy just so she could appear to shine even brighter. Unfortunately the serial flopped badly due to her bad acting and her wrinkles.

Stop making excuses that she is focusing on motherhood. Ivy Lee and Huang Biren certainly were shining examples of mothers who did even better after giving birth, motherhood is no excuse.

The brutal truth is that local audiences just don't want to see her anymore, nobody can be bothered with her and her lacklustre acting.

[Guest Guest]

To Starsshine:

It's supporters like you who keep unrealistically hyping Zoe up as Queen, Ah Jie, and then keep finding excuses for her failures.

Why shouldn't Zoe be blamed for the box office failures? She headlined those movies, didn't she?

And why shouldn't Zoe be blamed for the bad viewership for Ultimatum? She was the star of the show, isn't she? Fann's role was like plain water compared to hers. Even LNX was relegated to being her toyboy just so she could appear to shine even brighter. Unfortunately the serial flopped badly due to her bad acting and her wrinkles.

Stop making excuses that she is focusing on motherhood. Ivy Lee and Huang Biren certainly were shining examples of mothers who did even better after giving birth, motherhood is no excuse.

The brutal truth is that local audiences just don't want to see her anymore, nobody can be bothered with her and her lacklustre acting.

If any of the shows with Ah Jie were a success, some people would waste no time in attributing it ALL to Ah Jie's star power????

It's because she is the main lead, that's why the show is a success and such bulls.

When Ah Jie is in the main lead and the show is a flop, so many already, the same people will be even quicker to distribute the blame to the other crew, storyline, make up artiste, HD TV.

This is utterly rubbish and despicable.

Lucky Unriddle role was taken over by Chen LiPing and she did a great job, if not it will be in the ruins if done by Zheng Ah Jie again.

[Guest Nabisco]

Lucky Unriddle role was taken over by Chen LiPing and she did a great job, if not it will be in the ruins if done by Zheng Ah Jie again.

Exactly, can't imagine Zheng Ah Jie as Da Bao in Unriddle, maybe Char siew pau.

Didn't Ah Jie also crash the set of The Little Nyonya in 2008 when she was in the studio next door filming By My Side?

This was reported in the chinese papers.

In the end, the director Chia Mien Yang 谢敏洋 had to chase her out like a stray dog!

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Why all the Z-Tay bashing? Seriously uall keep complaining about her acting, list me shows that u felt she didn't do well in? The Ultimatum wasn't her best but she was at least better than Fann ,it was really the lame script that pulled everyone down though i admit her acting in that show was alittle too melodramatic, Aids show she was really really good.

[Guest James]

The Ultimatum wasn't her best but she was at least better than Fann ,it was really the lame script that pulled everyone down though i admit her acting in that show was alittle too melodramatic.

The Ultimatum was scripted as Z ah jie's comeback vehicle, she got the juicier villainess role with more screen time and more scope for emoting.

Unfortunately the same role also required lots of expression, and her wrinkles and crow's feet were magnified in full glory under High Definition, which she was damn proud of and didn't bother to conceal. :clap:

[Guest James]

Aids show she was really really good.

http://www.blowingwind.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=12809&view=findpost&p=222412

[Guest Guest]

Why all the Z-Tay bashing? Seriously uall keep complaining about her acting, list me shows that u felt she didn't do well in? The Ultimatum wasn't her best but she was at least better than Fann ,it was really the lame script that pulled everyone down though i admit her acting in that show was alittle too melodramatic, Aids show she was really really good.

Her recent roles were so forgettable, didn't even leave any impression, didn't win best actress or favorite character, most of the time not even nominated. All the local directors don't even want to cast her in their movies, no overseas director is interested in her either. That says it all, need no further elaboration ............?

It seems like you are the rare few who thinks a great deal of her acting whereas general consensus, box office, marketability, viewership all says otherwise?

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

That year when By My Side came out, The Little Nyonya dominated the television viewership and awards show. At the same time, that year was especially abundant with outstanding female roles such as Chen liping, Felicia, Fann, Jeanette, and unfortunately Joanne. Yes she was left out in the cold for that Aids show in terms of recognition. In terms of popularity, I agree she is no longer at the peak which is why she did not get any fave character awards.I am not surprised.

Best Actress awards wise, her role and acting was understated and quiet as compared to the other more dramatic and melodramatic roles that really showcase alot of "ACTING". A good example was joanne Peh's tragic role in Nyonya. Thus she was most probably left out from the nomination list probably due to that reason in which the panel of judges thought she wasn't "obvious" enough, not that she isn't good but she was really great in that Aids role. The trajectory of her character as compared to the other nominees seemed less exiciting. But you know, alot of actors and actresses get overlooked in role that they were great in but becuz it was too subtle and understated for recognition.

However, I think her role in Devotion is probably her last chance to shine. And I think she knows it. Wish her all the best.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Her recent roles were so forgettable, didn't even leave any impression, didn't win best actress or favorite character, most of the time not even nominated. All the local directors don't even want to cast her in their movies, no overseas director is interested in her either. That says it all, need no further elaboration ............?

It seems like you are the rare few who thinks a great deal of her acting whereas general consensus, box office, marketability, viewership all says otherwise?

Acting does not neccesarily equate to good box office returns, high viewership and marketability. If you look at Rabbit Hole, that film earned very little in the box office but would you say that the acting in the film was bad?

And taiwanese idol dramas are often badly acted but yet they garner high viewership, and thats becuz the idols are highly marketable and have huge fanbases. Not necessarily that their acting were awards-worthy.

[Guest Guest]

By the way, this is no senseless bashing, everything is based on facts and figures.

There is simply no reason at all why this piece of "gem" would have gone unnoticed unless she's not really as gem as you think she is.

Gold is different from gold plated costume jewellery, fades with time.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

By the way, this is no senseless bashing, everything is based on facts and figures.

There is simply no reason at all why this piece of "gem" would have gone unnoticed unless she's not really as gem as you think she is.

Gold is different from gold plated costume jewellery, fades with time.

Like i said, her upcoming series is her last chance to prove that she still can anchor a series and be outstanding in a lead role. Hopefully that show can silence most of her critics. But if it doesn't...well than that's too bad for her. Though I still think she is a good actress.

Anyway all artistes go through ups and downs. No one is always at the peak all the time. I guess she is going through that now. And its up to her whether she can make a comeback again.

Edited March 6, 2011 by amidst_the_stars

[Guest oh pls]

Oh pls, stop tryying to hype her up or defend her, isn't it already damn obvious she cannot make it???

She has been trying to stage a comeback since forever, if she could make it she would have been back. The audience's rejection of her in Ultimatum, LoveCuts and her forgettable performances says it all man.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Oh pls, stop tryying to hype her up or defend her, isn't it already damn obvious she cannot make it???

She has been trying to stage a comeback since forever, if she could make it she would have been back. The audience's rejection of her in Ultimatum, LoveCuts and her forgettable performances says it all man.

I am not trying to hype her up. I am just trying to state something in fairness. I dun like to bash people senseless unless they really deserve it. In this case, she doesn't. If u dun like her den dun watch her shows at all.

[Guest Guest]

That year when By My Side came out, The Little Nyonya dominated the television viewership and awards show. At the same time, that year was especially abundant with outstanding female roles such as Chen liping, Felicia, Fann, Jeanette, and unfortunately Joanne. Yes she was left out in the cold for that Aids show in terms of recognition. In terms of popularity, I agree she is no longer at the peak which is why she did not get any fave character awards.I am not surprised.

Best Actress awards wise, her role and acting was understated and quiet as compared to the other more dramatic and melodramatic roles that really showcase alot of "ACTING". A good example was joanne Peh's tragic role in Nyonya. Thus she was most probably left out from the nomination list probably due to that reason in which the panel of judges thought she wasn't "obvious" enough, not that she isn't good but she was really great in that Aids role. The trajectory of her character as compared to the other nominees seemed less exiciting. But you know, alot of actors and actresses get overlooked in role that they were great in but becuz it was too subtle and understated for recognition.

However, I think her role in Devotion is probably her last chance to shine. And I think she knows it. Wish her all the best.

Fair enough if you say that Little Nyonya stole all the thunder and overshadowed all the others. Since TLN took the top spot, there's at least number 2 given her star power and popularity?? But it's not number 2 either despite the cheap thrill attempt to suggest that she stripped in the show.

Now you say her role in BMS is understated and quiet compared to the others, that's why never get nominated. Earlier you say her role in TU was over the top melodramatic, but also not nominated.

Mediacorp is very nice to her, Aunty Devotion won't be her last chance to shine, there will always be the next last chance. Wish her all the best too.

[Guest Guest]

Acting does not neccesarily equate to good box office returns, high viewership and marketability. If you look at Rabbit Hole, that film earned very little in the box office but would you say that the acting in the film was bad?

And taiwanese idol dramas are often badly acted but yet they garner high viewership, and thats becuz the idols are highly marketable and have huge fanbases. Not necessarily that their acting were awards-worthy.

What exactly is the deciding factor to determine if acting is good?

You say it's not good box office returns, it's not awards, it's not recognition, it's not nomination, it's not high viewership, it's not marketability. Don't tell me it's your personal opinion that determines if an actress is good or not? This is very strange.

Give me a good reason why any GOOD ACTING would have gone unnoticed and unappreciated? Are the audience blind? Have you thought that maybe your definition of GOOD is different from majority...?

In your opinion, what does it take to become an idol that is highly marketable, high viewership and have a huge fanbase if not for acting skills?

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Fair enough if you say that Little Nyonya stole all the thunder and overshadowed all the others. Since TLN took the top spot, there's at least number 2 given her star power and popularity?? But it's not number 2 either despite the cheap thrill attempt to suggest that she stripped in the show.

Now you say her role in BMS is understated and quiet compared to the others, that's why never get nominated. Earlier you say her role in TU was over the top melodramatic, but also not nominated.

Mediacorp is very nice to her, Aunty Devotion won't be her last chance to shine, there will always be the next last chance. Wish her all the best too.

Haha like i said, she is no longer at the peak in terms of popularity for these past years. Especially since her pregnancies. It's the triumvirate of Jeanette, Rui En and Joanne. Her reign as Queen is really over. I dun tink her stripping in BMS was really made as a selling point in the show , and her stripping was not done for sensational reasons but as part of the storyline to convince her husband of her devotion.

The characters she portrayed in boths shows are different. TU was so bad that it wasn't even nominated for Best Drama despite it being a mid yr blockbuster. I agree the 2 female leads weren't able to elevate the material but i dun think z-tay was bad, i just said she was abit melodrmatic. . Unlike Joanne Peh whose role in TLN was written in a way that was sympathetic, genuinely tragic and gripping, Z-tay's role in TU was written in a way that really make her seem ridiculous. And unfortunately Z-tay was unable to elevate the role much. Not surprised she didn get nominated. And she shldn't that year. Though i have always thought she shld have been nominated for her work in BMS along side Rui En.

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Like i said, her upcoming series is her last chance to prove that she still can anchor a series and be outstanding in a lead role. Hopefully that show can silence most of her critics. But if it doesn't...well than that's too bad for her. Though I still think she is a good actress.

Anyway all artistes go through ups and downs. No one is always at the peak all the time. I guess she is going through that now. And its up to her whether she can make a comeback again.

You see the problem? Your opinion on her is blinded bias because you think ...

But it doesn't reflect what reality is.

Every role of hers is like a chance to silence her critics. I have lost count. Be also aware that one swallow doesn't make summer. Can she continue to perform well or not remains to be seen. It is of course not a problem if the actress has depth to begin with.

Good actress will always shine in any roles given to them. Huang Biren is a fine example, she is good in every tole. Ivy Lee was getting better each time before she called it quits. When Chen Liping got the Unriddle replacement role from Zoe last minute, people was laughing at her, because of her figure, unsuitable for the role meant for Zoe. But CLP proved everyone wrong, came up tops with a stunning performance, even won best actress. That is what good actresses is, they have what it takes, they can bounce back even if they are down.

Zoe Ah Jie, do you realise they are still talking about Bobo, like that is the only role she can be proud of?

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

What exactly is the deciding factor to determine if acting is good?

You say it's not good box office returns, it's not awards, it's not recognition, it's not nomination, it's not high viewership, it's not marketability. Don't tell me it's your personal opinion that determines if an actress is good or not? This is very strange.

Give me a good reason why any GOOD ACTING would have gone unnoticed and unappreciated? Are the audience blind? Have you thought that maybe your definition of GOOD is different from majority...?

In your opinion, what does it take to become an idol that is highly marketable, high viewership and have a huge fanbase if not for acting skills?

I never said "it's not", I said it " doesn't neccessarily equate to". And yes, alot of good acting has gone unnoticed and unappreciated. U look at the past works of character actors like Hong Hui Fang and Constance Song, they are excellent actresses and yet they have only been recognized a paltry number of times. I never said audiences are blind to the standard of acting, but also not all audiences can truly appreicate what's good acting too.

Idol? U look at the acting of any of the Farenheit boyband members and Rainie Yang, do you really think they are actors of calibre ? And yet their series have garner high viewership becuz of the nature of their idol dramas and their large fanbases.

[gummibear]

I never said "it's not", I said it " doesn't neccessarily equate to". And yes, alot of good acting has gone unnoticed and unappreciated. U look at the past works of character actors like Hong Hui Fang and Constance Song, they are excellent actresses and yet they have only been recognized a paltry number of times. I never said audiences are blind to the standard of acting, but also not all audiences can truly appreicate what's good acting too.

Idol? U look at the acting of any of the Farenheit boyband members and Rainie Yang, do you really think they are actors of calibre ? And yet their series have garner high viewership becuz of the nature of their idol dramas and their large fanbases.

Hold on a minute...it's wrong to compare Rainie with the boyband. Rainie can really sing well. And she acted well in Spider Lily too.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

You see the problem? Your opinion on her is blinded bias because you think ...

But it doesn't reflect what reality is.

Every role of hers is like a chance to silence her critics. I have lost count. Be also aware that one swallow doesn't make summer. Can she continue to perform well or not remains to be seen. It is of course not a problem if the actress has depth to begin with.

Good actress will always shine in any roles given to them. Huang Biren is a fine example, she is good in every tole. Ivy Lee was getting better each time before she called it quits. When Chen Liping got the Unriddle replacement role from Zoe last minute, people was laughing at her, because of her figure, unsuitable for the role meant for Zoe. But CLP proved everyone wrong, came up tops with a stunning performance, even won best actress. That is what good actresses is, they have what it takes, they can bounce back even if they are down.

Zoe Ah Jie, do you realise they are still talking about Bobo, like that is the only role she can be proud of?

You are one to say i am blindedly biased when u have been misquoting my words. And Z-tay's good roles is not only limited to Bobo. The Unbeatables 1 and 2, The Ma-jie series, Golden Pillow, Great Expectations,her role as a mother to quadruplets, she was great in them. No doubt CLP gave a good performance in Unriddle, viewers have criticised her lack of fludity in her action and running scenes which is partly due to her weight. And she was only nominated for her role in Unriddle, the outcome is not out yet.

Perhaps you should get your facts right first before slamming people upside down.

Edited March 6, 2011 by amidst_the_stars

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Hold on a minute...it's wrong to compare Rainie with the boyband. Rainie can really sing well. And she acted well in Spider Lily too.

I am talking about her acting not singing, its kind of irrelevant. I thought the actress acting opposite Rainie was better in Spider Lily. Anyway i have seen some of her taiwanese idol dramas before and she is extremely grating, sorry if it offends you.

[gummibear]

I am talking about her acting not singing, its kind of irrelevant. I thought the actress acting opposite Rainie was better in Spider Lily. Anyway i have seen some of her taiwanese idol dramas before and she is extremely grating, sorry if it offends you.

Hmm...not really. No apology required. Just a fan. Given her age, she'll get better. Besides, what all these artistes are doing is just a form of entertainment at our end. They can't possibly please everyone, so what is there to argue about?

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Hmm...not really. No apology required. Just a fan. Given her age, she'll get better. Besides, what all these artistes are doing is just a form of entertainment at our end. They can't possibly please everyone, so what is there to argue about?

Nothing. Just don't like how some of the guests here slam others senselessly. Maybe. Though i must say, she did improve in her series with show luo. Though still...i am not into taiwanese idol dramas but happen to catch that show in my friend's house.

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Haha like i said, she is no longer at the peak in terms of popularity for these past years. Especially since her pregnancies. It's the triumvirate of Jeanette, Rui En and Joanne. Her reign as Queen is really over. I dun tink her stripping in BMS was really made as a selling point in the show , and her stripping was not done for sensational reasons but as part of the storyline to convince her husband of her devotion.

If only the others are as rationale as you. :)

Very often we still see newspaper or magazines refering to her as if she's Mediacorp's beacon of light, indispensible.

But in reality. Star awards 2010 went on very well without her, highest viewership in history without her starpower.

Why her pregnancy is in the equation again? She is not the only mummy actress you know?

Other than Fann Wong, all the actress around her generation are mummies too.

I don't think her BMS stripping was worth any brownie points either, it's not even attractive to a straight guy to see an aunty in her 40s strip. Just don't understand why there is a special mention.

http://www.asiaone.com/Just%2BWoman/News/Celebrities/Story/A1Story20081017-94434.html

Very funny meeeh?

[gummibear]

Nothing. Just don't like how some of the guests here slam others senselessly. Maybe. Though i must say, she did improve in her series with show luo. Though still...i am not into taiwanese idol dramas but happen to catch that show in my friend's house.

People who slam other while choosing to shroud in cowardly anonymity should not be taken seriously. Just ignore lor.

[Guest Guest]

I never said "it's not", I said it " doesn't neccessarily equate to". And yes, alot of good acting has gone unnoticed and unappreciated. U look at the past works of character actors like Hong Hui Fang and Constance Song, they are excellent actresses and yet they have only been recognized a paltry number of times. I never said audiences are blind to the standard of acting, but also not all audiences can truly appreicate what's good acting too.

Idol? U look at the acting of any of the Farenheit boyband members and Rainie Yang, do you really think they are actors of calibre ? And yet their series have garner high viewership becuz of the nature of their idol dramas and their large fanbases.

Hong Huifang and Constance Song mostly landed on supporting roles, their good acting is secondary and expected.

To have supposedly good and failed in several lead roles, that's something else.

I think only you have good taste, I really can't appreciate Ah Jie Zoe's acting.

I like Rainie Yang and Wu Zun, such bad taste I have.

[Guest Guest]

You are one to say i am blindedly biased when u have been misquoting my words. And Z-tay's good roles is not only limited to Bobo. The Unbeatables 1 and 2, The Ma-jie series, Golden Pillow, Great Expectations,her role as a mother to quadruplets, she was great in them. No doubt CLP gave a good performance in Unriddle, viewers have criticised her lack of fludity in her action and running scenes which is partly due to her weight. And she was only nominated for her role in Unriddle, the outcome is not out yet.

Perhaps you should get your facts right first before slamming people upside down.

You're getting agitated, calm down.

I'm quoting the magazine and newspapers I read, they kept saying Bobobobobobobo.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

Hong Huifang and Constance Song mostly landed on supporting roles, their good acting is secondary and expected.

To have supposedly good and failed in several lead roles, that's something else.

I think only you have good taste, I really can't appreciate Ah Jie Zoe's acting.

I like Rainie Yang and Wu Zun, such bad taste I have.

Sorry irregardless whether the role is a supporting or leading one, if the acting is really good then it ought to be recognised. I think its unfair to judge supporting roles like this. And several artistes become well-known and popular due to breakthrough performances in supporting roles.

Thanks for saying that I have supposedly good taste .

[gummibear]

You're getting agitated, calm down.

I'm quoting the magazine and newspapers I read, they kept saying Bobobobobobobo.

I really liked Huang Biren though...have always assumed of her as the best in Caldecott...sad she had to leave...sigh

My Queen!

...and the versatility she brings to her acting...ahhh.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

I really liked Huang Biren though...have always assumed of her as the best in Caldecott...sad she had to leave...sigh

My Queen!

...and the versatility she brings to her acting...ahhh.

Yeah I think she is the best. It's sad she didn't get to act in films, especially arthouse types. She would have garner rave reviews. I wish she would come back and act and show the triumvirate what excellent acting truly is. Though not to say the 3 are not good, but they pale in comparison to her.

[Guest Guest]

Dear -gummibear-

I totally agree with you on Huang Biren. :thumb:

I was most disgusted when they chose to keep that inferior one but let HBR leave.

from your cowardly anonymous -Guest-

[gummibear]

Yeah I think she is the best. It's sad she didn't get to act in films, especially arthouse types. She would have garner rave reviews. I wish she would come back and act and show the triumvirate what excellent acting truly is. Though not to say the 3 are not good, but they pale in comparison to her.

In fact I would assume she is equivalent to Maggie Cheung, our very own Singaporean Maggie Chueng...hehe

[Guest Guest]

Sorry irregardless whether the role is a supporting or leading one, if the acting is really good then it ought to be recognised. I think its unfair to judge supporting roles like this. And several artistes become well-known and popular due to breakthrough performances in supporting roles.

Thanks for saying that I have supposedly good taste .

Zoe Ah Jie never had a supporting role it seems, a few starpower lending cameo she had, but not supporting.

No chance to see how she excel in a supporting role, but her last 10 lead roles were ...

You are welcome.

[Guest New Guest]

For that poster who said Zoe's acting in By My Side is very good:

I also watched that serial, and I was impressed by Chen Hanwei and Rui En. In particular, Rui En was great as the traumatised social worker Zhang Yuhang (I still remember her character's name till now!!)

Zoe's performance was not terrible but neither was it outstanding, it was just 中规中矩. A more accomplished actress like Huang Biren would have elevated that role to greater heights.

There was one slight problem with the script. After Bufan discovered he was HIV+, Zoe's character did a macabre thing - she tried to "seduce" him, by stripping to her bra and her skirt, so that she could "have sex with him", to show her "love" for him. That was very scary and spoilt the show.

[Guest amidst_the_stars]

For that poster who said Zoe's acting in By My Side is very good:

I also watched that serial, and I was impressed by Chen Hanwei and Rui En. In particular, Rui En was great as the traumatised social worker Zhang Yuhang (I still remember her character's name till now!!)

Zoe's performance was not terrible but neither was it outstanding, it was just 中规中矩. A more accomplished actress like Huang Biren would have elevated that role to greater heights.

There was one slight problem with the script. After Bufan discovered he was HIV+, Zoe's character did a macabre thing - she tried to "seduce" him, by stripping to her bra and her skirt, so that she could "have sex with him", to show her "love" for him. That was very scary and spoilt the show.

However I thought that course of act was done when she was pushed to desperation. She really wanted to show the true extent of her love and devotion towards him. I felt it was integral to the plot.

That said, you might be right. Huang Biren might have brought that role to new heights. Omg somebody offer her a million dollars to come back to Mediacorp!

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However I thought that course of act was done when she was pushed to desperation. She really wanted to show the true extent of her love and devotion towards him.

I see, a wife desperate to show her love and devotion for her aids stricken husband strips to her bra and skirt to seduce her husband... :thumb:

[Guest Guest]

Had a good laugh reading this thread (not being sarcastic); especially those guest posts on Zoe's undeserved reputation. A refreshing and funny take on Zoe. Keep it up and continue to give us alternative viewpoints lol!