2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

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2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

Ili Nadhirah Mansor/TODAY Neo Wei Meng (left) and Goh Suet Hong (right) arriving at the State Courts on July 5, 2022.

• Goh Suet Hong and Neo Wei Meng had contested a charge each of molesting a Grab driver
• Both men were found guilty of doing so in November 2018
• A judge found that the male victim’s evidence was convincing beyond a reasonable doubt

LOUISA TANG

Published July 5, 2022

Updated July 5, 2022

 

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SINGAPORE — Two men were found guilty on Tuesday (July 5) of molesting a male private-hire driver who was ferrying them home after a night of drinking in 2018.

 

Singaporean Neo Wei Meng, 41, and Malaysian Goh Suet Hong, 40, were convicted after claiming trial to one charge each of outraging the modesty of the Grab driver.

The victim, then aged 28, cannot be named due to a court order to protect his identity.

 

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen had rejected Goh’s defence that he mistakenly believed the victim had consented, as well as Neo’s denial of having touched the victim at all.

 

Neo was employed as a freelance interior designer at the time, while Goh worked as a hairdresser. They have not been sentenced yet and will return to court on Thursday.

READ ALSO

Grab driver gets jail, caning for molesting teenage passenger during midnight ride home

 

The two friends had gone out for drinks at a bar along Neil Road on Nov 11 in 2018 before booking a Grab ride to their respective homes.

 

Grab’s computer system then assigned their ride to a driver who picked them up around 1.30am. Both men sat in the rear passenger seats, with Goh directly behind the driver.

WHAT HAPPENED

The driver testified during the trial that both men told him he was “very cute”. They also asked him: “Do you know God has sent us to pleasure you?”, and said they were both a “woman disguised as a man”.

 

While travelling along Central Expressway (CTE) on the way to Neo’s Hougang home, Goh then began touching the driver's chest and rubbing the driver’s groin over his trousers.

 

The driver told him to stop, but Neo then unzipped the driver's pants and performed a sex act on him. When the driver also told him to stop, Neo persisted and licked his cheek and ear.

 

After some time, they switched their actions despite the victim’s repeated pleas. They stopped only when they spotted a police car.

READ ALSO

Prosecution files appeal against ex-Grab driver's acquittal for attempted rape of drunk passenger

 

When they got to Neo’s home, Neo alighted and Goh sat in the front passenger seat before the driver took him home.

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

 

The victim testified that he also tried to resist this to no avail.

 

Upon reaching the drop-off location, Goh told the driver to enter a multi-storey car park. The victim had already declined Goh’s request to spend more time with him after reaching the destination.

 

Goh then alighted and asked the driver to wait while he relieved himself, but the victim drove away. The mode of payment for the ride was cash but the driver did not collect the fare.

 

The driver called the Grab hotline to report the incident, and was told to lodge a police report. He then did so at Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre.

READ ALSO

Jail, caning for former private-hire car driver who molested 3 passengers

 

He also handed over Goh’s belongings that had been left in the vehicle, including a few debit cards, a Malaysian driving licence, iPhone, branded Versace bag and Goh’s National Registration Identity Card.

 

Goh and Neo were arrested that same day.

 

During their trial, they were both represented by Mr Kalaithasan Karuppaya from Regent Law LLC.

'EXTREMELY INCREDIBLE'

On Tuesday, Magistrate Hairul found that the victim’s testimony was unusually convincing enough to be the sole basis of convicting both men.

 

In contrast, Goh’s account of what had happened was “extremely incredible”, the judge said.

 

Goh testified that he was asleep during the first part of the journey, but woke up when his friend left. He admitted to moving to the front passenger seat and kissing the victim as well as rubbing his groin.

READ ALSO

Private-hire driver on trial for molesting two girls, aged 7 and 10, in his car

 

Magistrate Hairul said: “It defies logic that Goh suddenly decides to move to the front seat and be sexually excited all of a sudden.”

 

Goh had also said in his police statement: “I regret doing such acts on him and I was drunk during that time. I thought he was fine with what I did.” The judge noted that Goh gave this statement voluntarily.

 

As for the issue of consent, Magistrate Hairul noted that the victim was “very consistent” in testifying that he had repeatedly asked Goh to stop.

 

“If the victim truly consented to Goh’s sexual actions and as Goh claimed, 'I liked him and he liked me’, there’s no reason why he would suddenly dash away when it was safe for him to do so,” Magistrate Hairul said.

 

The magistrate also rejected Goh’s and Neo’s suggestion that the victim wanted to steal Goh’s belongings, given that the victim had handed all the items over to the police.

 

The judge then addressed the defence’s argument that the victim failed to seek help despite having ample chances to do so.

READ ALSO

Limo driver who molested music festival goer after giving her a ride gets jail, caning

 

The victim had explained that he continued to drive because he was “terrified” of Goh and Neo, and was worried that his Grab account would be suspended if he terminated the trip prematurely. He had been driving for Grab only for a year and it was his only source of income.

 

He also testified that he feared not being able to pay the daily vehicle rental and not being able to drive when his account was deactivated.

 

Magistrate Hairul agreed with a higher court’s decision in another case that victims’ behaviour “cannot be straitjacketed in that they must act and react in a certain manner”.

“

He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen

”

The magistrate added: “He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of the assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.”

 

Following the conviction, Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon sought nine to 10 months' jail for Goh, and 14 to 15 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for Neo.

 

He pointed to aggravating factors such as the victim being a public transport worker and being trapped in an enclosed space where he could not take evasive action.

 

The prosecutor argued that because the victim was driving, Goh and Neo had taken advantage of his vulnerability and distracted him, which posed a safety hazard to the victim and other road users. Both accused persons were also voluntarily intoxicated.

 

Mr Karuppaya did not make submissions for a particular sentence, merely saying that he asked for leniency for his clients and that it would “leave a very bad mark on their lives in the future”.

 

The defence counsel also stated that the two men did not specifically get drunk to molest the victim.

 

Those convicted of molestation can be jailed for up to two years, fined, caned, or punished with any combination of the three.

 

Edited July 5, 2022 by G_M
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[Guest Guest]

Poor driver must be cute but honestly, these 2 guys are disgusting.

[horchew]

On 7/5/2022 at 9:50 PM, Guest Guest said:

Poor driver must be cute but honestly, these 2 guys are disgusting.

They're probably lurking here in BW community. Hahahaa

 

[Guest Guest]

What are the reason(s) for male victims (more for straights) to complain when they are molested by gay men? Pride got hurt? Homophobes?

 

Will they complain if they are molested by chio bu or aunties? 🙄

[Guest Betrayed]

On 7/5/2022 at 10:23 PM, Guest Guest said:

What are the reason(s) for male victims (more for straights) to complain when they are molested by gay men? Pride got hurt? Homophobes?

 

Will they complain if they are molested by chio bu or aunties? 🙄

I've been molested by taxi driver in Bangkok. Literally put his hand into my shorts and fingered me got me all wet. We gays take that as a compliment.

That's why some gays think str8 also think so. But it's not.

[Guest guest]

People here have been posting "how to seduce a married man" or "how to seduce my str8 friend ".....tis news is an example. So bear in mind, not all str8 men can be seduce. 

[Guest guestly]

hope it serves as a lesson on what consensus is. straight or otherwise. 

[Guest Guest]

What is meant by below in bold? How does one do it? 🤔

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

[Guest Guest]

On 7/6/2022 at 6:47 AM, Guest Guest said:

What is meant by below in bold? How does one do it? 🤔

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

😂 I think I know what you meant. 

 

It just means Goh touched the victim’s groin across the victim’s pants. It doesn’t mean Goh rubbed the victim’s groin over his own pants unless he sat on him. 🤣

[Guest Molest Victim]

On 7/5/2022 at 5:09 PM, Since u r here said:

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/2-men-guilty-molesting-grab-driver-1936081

2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

this is Grab, NOT grab him!!!!!!!

is the Grab driver v ham?

Just because and even if,

The victim is "ham" 

Does it mean he asked to be molested.

 

Use your brain!

 

With this kind of questioning and inciting

No wonder the straights belittle AJs.

[Guest Give gay bad namr]

Watch too much gay porn where the porn actor pretend kena seduced...

 

Seriously gay guys. Go gay sauna and touch and molest each other la. Gay guys so horny wanna be satisfied. Used and abused. 

 

Why go after straight guys. 

[singalion]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:32 PM, Spugnatura said:

I guess by your definition of living a balanced life, one has to go church every Sunday, and only have sex once a week?

 

Sorry "sex" sounds much to pleasurable, please say procreation.

 

Also, once a week? This would be a sex addict. How dare you?

[singalion]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:41 PM, Spugnatura said:

Every year such reports will surface on local mainstream media one week before Pinkdot. The crime was commited 4 years ago, police report made 2.5 years ago.

 

Police highly inefficient in solving crimes, but maintenance of negative image associations, recall and suggestions of same sex crimes with Pinkdot by the msm goes on like a well-oiled machine and clockwork every year.

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/primary-school-teacher-molest-pupil-1923721

 

The boy, who was a Scout member, was 10 when the alleged offences happened. He is now 15 years old.

 

 

The case clearly refers to paedophilia.

I don't understand why you bring it into the context of homosexuality...

 

The victim was a 10 year old boy when the molest happened.

 

I don't place any such things into the category of homosexuality.

 

The Singapore courts surely don't follow the Pink Dot calendar for their judgments...

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by singalion

[Guest Guest]

On 7/6/2022 at 10:34 AM, Guest Guest said:

😂 I think I know what you meant. 

 

It just means Goh touched the victim’s groin across the victim’s pants. It doesn’t mean Goh rubbed the victim’s groin over his own pants unless he sat on him. 🤣

Yes, u indeed knew what I was asking! Very 醒目！ 👍👍

 

Somehow the sentence construction is quite funny/grey, coming from a reporter writer (presumably his or her command of the English language should be quite “powderful”). 😅

[singalion]

On 7/6/2022 at 12:24 PM, Guest Molest Victim said:

Just because and even if,

The victim is "ham" 

Does it mean he asked to be molested.

 

Use your brain!

 

With this kind of questioning and inciting

No wonder the straights belittle AJs.

 

If you find any driver cute or have a suspicion he might be into guys, instead of being that plump, you can still send a private message to the driver up to 2 hours after the drive finished.

But at your own risk...

 

What the two guys did was very inconsiderate.

 

After reading the events I was actually surprised that the driver did not chase them out of the car immediately or drove them directly to a police station ...

 

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

On 7/6/2022 at 5:26 PM, Since u r here said:

Driver's intention lead us wonder what was he thinking!!!!!!! it is rather obvious

although he doesnt wanna suffered in rating, why sacrifice @ the expense of feeling uncomfy on the expressway!

 

I actually did not buy this excuse.

Because if he explained to grab, surely they would not punish him in the rating.

The driver might had a bad day and then financially did not make enough on the day and decided to get them to their locations. But he could have raised his voice to stop the molest.

 

While I would not recommend to do this, but maybe if they had been smarter and offered the grab driver S$100, he had stripped naked for them or more....

 

However, touching the driver and unzipping his pants and sexually touching him is clearly out of bounds.

But you can't just molest a grab driver only because he is a driver you find cute.

Also if you suspect the guy might be gay, nobody permits you to touch and molest any person that rejects.

Is it worth to go to jail for probably 6 months or longer just to touch a grab driver?

 

I guess the drivers will be more cautious or reluctant to pick up halfway drunk guys around Neil road... while it is already difficult currently to get a grab at late night  or after midnight, this will worsen the situation...

 

 

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/5/2022 at 6:44 PM, Guest Guest said:

2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

Ili Nadhirah Mansor/TODAY Neo Wei Meng (left) and Goh Suet Hong (right) arriving at the State Courts on July 5, 2022.

• Goh Suet Hong and Neo Wei Meng had contested a charge each of molesting a Grab driver
• Both men were found guilty of doing so in November 2018
• A judge found that the male victim’s evidence was convincing beyond a reasonable doubt

LOUISA TANG

Published July 5, 2022

Updated July 5, 2022

 

WhatsAppTelegramFacebookTwitterEmailLinkedIn

SINGAPORE — Two men were found guilty on Tuesday (July 5) of molesting a male private-hire driver who was ferrying them home after a night of drinking in 2018.

 

Singaporean Neo Wei Meng, 41, and Malaysian Goh Suet Hong, 40, were convicted after claiming trial to one charge each of outraging the modesty of the Grab driver.

The victim, then aged 28, cannot be named due to a court order to protect his identity.

 

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen had rejected Goh’s defence that he mistakenly believed the victim had consented, as well as Neo’s denial of having touched the victim at all.

 

Neo was employed as a freelance interior designer at the time, while Goh worked as a hairdresser. They have not been sentenced yet and will return to court on Thursday.

READ ALSO

Grab driver gets jail, caning for molesting teenage passenger during midnight ride home

 

The two friends had gone out for drinks at a bar along Neil Road on Nov 11 in 2018 before booking a Grab ride to their respective homes.

 

Grab’s computer system then assigned their ride to a driver who picked them up around 1.30am. Both men sat in the rear passenger seats, with Goh directly behind the driver.

WHAT HAPPENED

The driver testified during the trial that both men told him he was “very cute”. They also asked him: “Do you know God has sent us to pleasure you?”, and said they were both a “woman disguised as a man”.

 

While travelling along Central Expressway (CTE) on the way to Neo’s Hougang home, Goh then began touching the driver's chest and rubbing the driver’s groin over his trousers.

 

The driver told him to stop, but Neo then unzipped the driver's pants and performed a sex act on him. When the driver also told him to stop, Neo persisted and licked his cheek and ear.

 

After some time, they switched their actions despite the victim’s repeated pleas. They stopped only when they spotted a police car.

READ ALSO

Prosecution files appeal against ex-Grab driver's acquittal for attempted rape of drunk passenger

 

When they got to Neo’s home, Neo alighted and Goh sat in the front passenger seat before the driver took him home.

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

 

The victim testified that he also tried to resist this to no avail.

 

Upon reaching the drop-off location, Goh told the driver to enter a multi-storey car park. The victim had already declined Goh’s request to spend more time with him after reaching the destination.

 

Goh then alighted and asked the driver to wait while he relieved himself, but the victim drove away. The mode of payment for the ride was cash but the driver did not collect the fare.

 

The driver called the Grab hotline to report the incident, and was told to lodge a police report. He then did so at Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre.

READ ALSO

Jail, caning for former private-hire car driver who molested 3 passengers

 

He also handed over Goh’s belongings that had been left in the vehicle, including a few debit cards, a Malaysian driving licence, iPhone, branded Versace bag and Goh’s National Registration Identity Card.

 

Goh and Neo were arrested that same day.

 

During their trial, they were both represented by Mr Kalaithasan Karuppaya from Regent Law LLC.

'EXTREMELY INCREDIBLE'

On Tuesday, Magistrate Hairul found that the victim’s testimony was unusually convincing enough to be the sole basis of convicting both men.

 

In contrast, Goh’s account of what had happened was “extremely incredible”, the judge said.

 

Goh testified that he was asleep during the first part of the journey, but woke up when his friend left. He admitted to moving to the front passenger seat and kissing the victim as well as rubbing his groin.

READ ALSO

Private-hire driver on trial for molesting two girls, aged 7 and 10, in his car

 

Magistrate Hairul said: “It defies logic that Goh suddenly decides to move to the front seat and be sexually excited all of a sudden.”

 

Goh had also said in his police statement: “I regret doing such acts on him and I was drunk during that time. I thought he was fine with what I did.” The judge noted that Goh gave this statement voluntarily.

 

As for the issue of consent, Magistrate Hairul noted that the victim was “very consistent” in testifying that he had repeatedly asked Goh to stop.

 

“If the victim truly consented to Goh’s sexual actions and as Goh claimed, 'I liked him and he liked me’, there’s no reason why he would suddenly dash away when it was safe for him to do so,” Magistrate Hairul said.

 

The magistrate also rejected Goh’s and Neo’s suggestion that the victim wanted to steal Goh’s belongings, given that the victim had handed all the items over to the police.

 

The judge then addressed the defence’s argument that the victim failed to seek help despite having ample chances to do so.

READ ALSO

Limo driver who molested music festival goer after giving her a ride gets jail, caning

 

The victim had explained that he continued to drive because he was “terrified” of Goh and Neo, and was worried that his Grab account would be suspended if he terminated the trip prematurely. He had been driving for Grab only for a year and it was his only source of income.

 

He also testified that he feared not being able to pay the daily vehicle rental and not being able to drive when his account was deactivated.

 

Magistrate Hairul agreed with a higher court’s decision in another case that victims’ behaviour “cannot be straitjacketed in that they must act and react in a certain manner”.

“

He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen

”

The magistrate added: “He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of the assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.”

 

Following the conviction, Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon sought nine to 10 months' jail for Goh, and 14 to 15 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for Neo.

 

He pointed to aggravating factors such as the victim being a public transport worker and being trapped in an enclosed space where he could not take evasive action.

 

The prosecutor argued that because the victim was driving, Goh and Neo had taken advantage of his vulnerability and distracted him, which posed a safety hazard to the victim and other road users. Both accused persons were also voluntarily intoxicated.

 

Mr Karuppaya did not make submissions for a particular sentence, merely saying that he asked for leniency for his clients and that it would “leave a very bad mark on their lives in the future”.

 

The defence counsel also stated that the two men did not specifically get drunk to molest the victim.

 

Those convicted of molestation can be jailed for up to two years, fined, caned, or punished with any combination of the three.

 

 

Walao eh! I got damn hard reading this!!  😈🍆

[KINKYMALAY]

On 7/6/2022 at 7:20 PM, Guest Try and see said:

 

Walao eh! I got damn hard reading this!!  😈🍆

Somehow when it comes to offences by gay men - the news tend to describe in so much detail. Is it on purpose?

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/5/2022 at 6:44 PM, Guest Guest said:

2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

Ili Nadhirah Mansor/TODAY Neo Wei Meng (left) and Goh Suet Hong (right) arriving at the State Courts on July 5, 2022.

• Goh Suet Hong and Neo Wei Meng had contested a charge each of molesting a Grab driver
• Both men were found guilty of doing so in November 2018
• A judge found that the male victim’s evidence was convincing beyond a reasonable doubt

LOUISA TANG

Published July 5, 2022

Updated July 5, 2022

 

WhatsAppTelegramFacebookTwitterEmailLinkedIn

SINGAPORE — Two men were found guilty on Tuesday (July 5) of molesting a male private-hire driver who was ferrying them home after a night of drinking in 2018.

 

Singaporean Neo Wei Meng, 41, and Malaysian Goh Suet Hong, 40, were convicted after claiming trial to one charge each of outraging the modesty of the Grab driver.

The victim, then aged 28, cannot be named due to a court order to protect his identity.

 

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen had rejected Goh’s defence that he mistakenly believed the victim had consented, as well as Neo’s denial of having touched the victim at all.

 

Neo was employed as a freelance interior designer at the time, while Goh worked as a hairdresser. They have not been sentenced yet and will return to court on Thursday.

READ ALSO

Grab driver gets jail, caning for molesting teenage passenger during midnight ride home

 

The two friends had gone out for drinks at a bar along Neil Road on Nov 11 in 2018 before booking a Grab ride to their respective homes.

 

Grab’s computer system then assigned their ride to a driver who picked them up around 1.30am. Both men sat in the rear passenger seats, with Goh directly behind the driver.

WHAT HAPPENED

The driver testified during the trial that both men told him he was “very cute”. They also asked him: “Do you know God has sent us to pleasure you?”, and said they were both a “woman disguised as a man”.

 

While travelling along Central Expressway (CTE) on the way to Neo’s Hougang home, Goh then began touching the driver's chest and rubbing the driver’s groin over his trousers.

 

The driver told him to stop, but Neo then unzipped the driver's pants and performed a sex act on him. When the driver also told him to stop, Neo persisted and licked his cheek and ear.

 

After some time, they switched their actions despite the victim’s repeated pleas. They stopped only when they spotted a police car.

READ ALSO

Prosecution files appeal against ex-Grab driver's acquittal for attempted rape of drunk passenger

 

When they got to Neo’s home, Neo alighted and Goh sat in the front passenger seat before the driver took him home.

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

 

The victim testified that he also tried to resist this to no avail.

 

Upon reaching the drop-off location, Goh told the driver to enter a multi-storey car park. The victim had already declined Goh’s request to spend more time with him after reaching the destination.

 

Goh then alighted and asked the driver to wait while he relieved himself, but the victim drove away. The mode of payment for the ride was cash but the driver did not collect the fare.

 

The driver called the Grab hotline to report the incident, and was told to lodge a police report. He then did so at Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre.

READ ALSO

Jail, caning for former private-hire car driver who molested 3 passengers

 

He also handed over Goh’s belongings that had been left in the vehicle, including a few debit cards, a Malaysian driving licence, iPhone, branded Versace bag and Goh’s National Registration Identity Card.

 

Goh and Neo were arrested that same day.

 

During their trial, they were both represented by Mr Kalaithasan Karuppaya from Regent Law LLC.

'EXTREMELY INCREDIBLE'

On Tuesday, Magistrate Hairul found that the victim’s testimony was unusually convincing enough to be the sole basis of convicting both men.

 

In contrast, Goh’s account of what had happened was “extremely incredible”, the judge said.

 

Goh testified that he was asleep during the first part of the journey, but woke up when his friend left. He admitted to moving to the front passenger seat and kissing the victim as well as rubbing his groin.

READ ALSO

Private-hire driver on trial for molesting two girls, aged 7 and 10, in his car

 

Magistrate Hairul said: “It defies logic that Goh suddenly decides to move to the front seat and be sexually excited all of a sudden.”

 

Goh had also said in his police statement: “I regret doing such acts on him and I was drunk during that time. I thought he was fine with what I did.” The judge noted that Goh gave this statement voluntarily.

 

As for the issue of consent, Magistrate Hairul noted that the victim was “very consistent” in testifying that he had repeatedly asked Goh to stop.

 

“If the victim truly consented to Goh’s sexual actions and as Goh claimed, 'I liked him and he liked me’, there’s no reason why he would suddenly dash away when it was safe for him to do so,” Magistrate Hairul said.

 

The magistrate also rejected Goh’s and Neo’s suggestion that the victim wanted to steal Goh’s belongings, given that the victim had handed all the items over to the police.

 

The judge then addressed the defence’s argument that the victim failed to seek help despite having ample chances to do so.

READ ALSO

Limo driver who molested music festival goer after giving her a ride gets jail, caning

 

The victim had explained that he continued to drive because he was “terrified” of Goh and Neo, and was worried that his Grab account would be suspended if he terminated the trip prematurely. He had been driving for Grab only for a year and it was his only source of income.

 

He also testified that he feared not being able to pay the daily vehicle rental and not being able to drive when his account was deactivated.

 

Magistrate Hairul agreed with a higher court’s decision in another case that victims’ behaviour “cannot be straitjacketed in that they must act and react in a certain manner”.

“

He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen

”

The magistrate added: “He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of the assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.”

 

Following the conviction, Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon sought nine to 10 months' jail for Goh, and 14 to 15 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for Neo.

 

He pointed to aggravating factors such as the victim being a public transport worker and being trapped in an enclosed space where he could not take evasive action.

 

The prosecutor argued that because the victim was driving, Goh and Neo had taken advantage of his vulnerability and distracted him, which posed a safety hazard to the victim and other road users. Both accused persons were also voluntarily intoxicated.

 

Mr Karuppaya did not make submissions for a particular sentence, merely saying that he asked for leniency for his clients and that it would “leave a very bad mark on their lives in the future”.

 

The defence counsel also stated that the two men did not specifically get drunk to molest the victim.

 

Those convicted of molestation can be jailed for up to two years, fined, caned, or punished with any combination of the three.

 

 

I cross-referenced the details of this case using the CNA, Today, ST & TNP articles, because the articles all seem to have omitted some information which the others included. Together, they give a more coherent complete picture.

 

Below is a summary of what happened in the car. To save time, I didn't include the details about the police report, or the court statements from the defence team.

 

 

Date: Between 1.18am and 3.03am on Nov 12, 2018 (late Sunday night / early Monday morning)

 

Victim:

i) then 28-year-old Grab driver

 

Aggressors:

i) Neo WM, then 37-year-old interior designer

ii) Goh SH, then 36-year-old hairdresser

 

Events Summary:

 

- Victim picks up Neo and Goh at Neil Road after the two men had been drinking at a pub.

 

- Both men sit at the back seat, with Goh seated directly behind the victim.

 

Along the CTE to Hougang

 

- Both men start to verbally harass the victim sexually.

 

- Goh starts to caress the victim's chest and nipples over his shirt.

 

- Goh also begins rubbing the victim's genitals through the victim's pants, despite the victim telling Goh to stop touching him.

 

- Aroused and emboldened by Goh, Neo reaches forward to unzip the victim's pants. Neo then uses his hand to directly stimulate the victim's genitals.

 

- The victim tells Neo to stop touching his genitals, but Neo persists, and defiantly licks the victim's cheeks and ear.

 

- In the meantime, Goh continues teasing the victim's nipples.

 

- After some time, Neo and Goh decide to swap seats (while the car was still moving) so that they can try out each other's intimate acts on the victim.

 

- From their new seating positions, Goh proceeds to rub the victim's genitals (presumably directly), while Neo cheekily starts caressing the victim's chest and nipples underneath the victim's shirt. (Interestingly, the trial judge called it a "tag team" effort on the part of the aggressors.)

 

- Arriving at the Hougang stop, Neo alights while Goh moves to the front passenger seat to be nearer the victim.

 

- Meanwhile, the victim zips up his pants in embarrassment, at the same time fearful of what Goh would do to him next.

 

From Hougang to Ponggol

 

- As expected, once the car starts moving, Goh continues to force himself on the younger man.

 

- Goh caresses the victim's left thigh, and kisses the victim's left cheek and left side of the lip.

 

- He again rubs the younger man's genitals through his pants crotch.

 

- The victim tries repeatedly to resist Goh's advances but to no avail. 

 

 

What a night for the poor Grab driver! His private parts literally got rubbed non-stop throughout the whole journey!

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/6/2022 at 10:44 PM, KINKYMALAY said:

Somehow when it comes to offences by gay men - the news tend to describe in so much detail. Is it on purpose?

 

On the contrary, I find that men/man-on-man cases are always described in less detail and in more vague and ambiguous terms, as compared to male-on-female cases.

 

This Grab driver case is an exception, and I was surprised also by how much detail was provided!

[Guest Guest]

On 7/7/2022 at 12:14 AM, Guest Try and see said:

 

I cross-referenced the details of this case using the CNA, Today, ST & TNP articles, because the articles all seem to have omitted some information which the others included. Together, they give a more coherent complete picture.

 

Below is a summary of what happened in the car. To save time, I didn't include the details about the police report, or the court statements from the defence team.

 

 

Date: Between 1.18am and 3.03am on Nov 12, 2018 (late Sunday night / early Monday morning)

 

Victim:

i) then 28-year-old Grab driver

 

Aggressors:

i) Neo WM, then 37-year-old interior designer

ii) Goh SH, then 36-year-old hairdresser

 

Events Summary:

 

- Victim picks up Neo and Goh at Neil Road after the two men had been drinking at a pub.

 

- Both men sit at the back seat, with Goh seated directly behind the victim.

 

Along the CTE to Hougang

 

- Both men start to verbally harass the victim sexually.

 

- Goh starts to caress the victim's chest and nipples over his shirt.

 

- Goh also begins rubbing the victim's genitals through the victim's pants, despite the victim telling Goh to stop touching him.

 

- Aroused and emboldened by Goh, Neo reaches forward to unzip the victim's pants. Neo then uses his hand to directly stimulate the victim's genitals.

 

- The victim tells Neo to stop touching his genitals, but Neo persists, and defiantly licks the victim's cheeks and ear.

 

- In the meantime, Goh continues teasing the victim's nipples.

 

- After some time, Neo and Goh decide to swap seats (while the car was still moving) so that they can try out each other's intimate acts on the victim.

 

- From their new seating positions, Goh proceeds to rub the victim's genitals (presumably directly), while Neo cheekily starts caressing the victim's chest and nipples underneath the victim's shirt. (Interestingly, the trial judge called it a "tag team" effort on the part of the aggressors.)

 

- Arriving at the Hougang stop, Neo alights while Goh moves to the front passenger seat to be nearer the victim.

 

- Meanwhile, the victim zips up his pants in embarrassment, at the same time fearful of what Goh would do to him next.

 

From Hougang to Ponggol

 

- As expected, once the car starts moving, Goh continues to force himself on the younger man.

 

- Goh caresses the victim's left thigh, and kisses the victim's left cheek and left side of the lip.

 

- He again rubs the younger man's genitals through his pants crotch.

 

- The victim tries repeatedly to resist Goh's advances but to no avail. 

 

 

What a night for the poor Grab driver! His private parts literally got rubbed non-stop throughout the whole journey!

Wow! Thanks for the summary!

 

With so much teasing and rubbing from the "tag team" (later followed by more from Goh), the reports did not say whether the Grab driver came or not, right? LOL! 😅

[fab]

On 7/5/2022 at 6:44 PM, Guest Guest said:

2 men convicted of molesting male Grab driver on way home after night of drinking

Ili Nadhirah Mansor/TODAY Neo Wei Meng (left) and Goh Suet Hong (right) arriving at the State Courts on July 5, 2022.

• Goh Suet Hong and Neo Wei Meng had contested a charge each of molesting a Grab driver
• Both men were found guilty of doing so in November 2018
• A judge found that the male victim’s evidence was convincing beyond a reasonable doubt

LOUISA TANG

Published July 5, 2022

Updated July 5, 2022

 

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SINGAPORE — Two men were found guilty on Tuesday (July 5) of molesting a male private-hire driver who was ferrying them home after a night of drinking in 2018.

 

Singaporean Neo Wei Meng, 41, and Malaysian Goh Suet Hong, 40, were convicted after claiming trial to one charge each of outraging the modesty of the Grab driver.

The victim, then aged 28, cannot be named due to a court order to protect his identity.

 

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen had rejected Goh’s defence that he mistakenly believed the victim had consented, as well as Neo’s denial of having touched the victim at all.

 

Neo was employed as a freelance interior designer at the time, while Goh worked as a hairdresser. They have not been sentenced yet and will return to court on Thursday.

READ ALSO

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The two friends had gone out for drinks at a bar along Neil Road on Nov 11 in 2018 before booking a Grab ride to their respective homes.

 

Grab’s computer system then assigned their ride to a driver who picked them up around 1.30am. Both men sat in the rear passenger seats, with Goh directly behind the driver.

WHAT HAPPENED

The driver testified during the trial that both men told him he was “very cute”. They also asked him: “Do you know God has sent us to pleasure you?”, and said they were both a “woman disguised as a man”.

 

While travelling along Central Expressway (CTE) on the way to Neo’s Hougang home, Goh then began touching the driver's chest and rubbing the driver’s groin over his trousers.

 

The driver told him to stop, but Neo then unzipped the driver's pants and performed a sex act on him. When the driver also told him to stop, Neo persisted and licked his cheek and ear.

 

After some time, they switched their actions despite the victim’s repeated pleas. They stopped only when they spotted a police car.

READ ALSO

Prosecution files appeal against ex-Grab driver's acquittal for attempted rape of drunk passenger

 

When they got to Neo’s home, Neo alighted and Goh sat in the front passenger seat before the driver took him home.

 

During this leg of the journey to Punggol, Goh then touched the victim’s thigh, kissed his cheek and the side of his lip, and rubbed the other man’s groin over his pants.

 

The victim testified that he also tried to resist this to no avail.

 

Upon reaching the drop-off location, Goh told the driver to enter a multi-storey car park. The victim had already declined Goh’s request to spend more time with him after reaching the destination.

 

Goh then alighted and asked the driver to wait while he relieved himself, but the victim drove away. The mode of payment for the ride was cash but the driver did not collect the fare.

 

The driver called the Grab hotline to report the incident, and was told to lodge a police report. He then did so at Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre.

READ ALSO

Jail, caning for former private-hire car driver who molested 3 passengers

 

He also handed over Goh’s belongings that had been left in the vehicle, including a few debit cards, a Malaysian driving licence, iPhone, branded Versace bag and Goh’s National Registration Identity Card.

 

Goh and Neo were arrested that same day.

 

During their trial, they were both represented by Mr Kalaithasan Karuppaya from Regent Law LLC.

'EXTREMELY INCREDIBLE'

On Tuesday, Magistrate Hairul found that the victim’s testimony was unusually convincing enough to be the sole basis of convicting both men.

 

In contrast, Goh’s account of what had happened was “extremely incredible”, the judge said.

 

Goh testified that he was asleep during the first part of the journey, but woke up when his friend left. He admitted to moving to the front passenger seat and kissing the victim as well as rubbing his groin.

READ ALSO

Private-hire driver on trial for molesting two girls, aged 7 and 10, in his car

 

Magistrate Hairul said: “It defies logic that Goh suddenly decides to move to the front seat and be sexually excited all of a sudden.”

 

Goh had also said in his police statement: “I regret doing such acts on him and I was drunk during that time. I thought he was fine with what I did.” The judge noted that Goh gave this statement voluntarily.

 

As for the issue of consent, Magistrate Hairul noted that the victim was “very consistent” in testifying that he had repeatedly asked Goh to stop.

 

“If the victim truly consented to Goh’s sexual actions and as Goh claimed, 'I liked him and he liked me’, there’s no reason why he would suddenly dash away when it was safe for him to do so,” Magistrate Hairul said.

 

The magistrate also rejected Goh’s and Neo’s suggestion that the victim wanted to steal Goh’s belongings, given that the victim had handed all the items over to the police.

 

The judge then addressed the defence’s argument that the victim failed to seek help despite having ample chances to do so.

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The victim had explained that he continued to drive because he was “terrified” of Goh and Neo, and was worried that his Grab account would be suspended if he terminated the trip prematurely. He had been driving for Grab only for a year and it was his only source of income.

 

He also testified that he feared not being able to pay the daily vehicle rental and not being able to drive when his account was deactivated.

 

Magistrate Hairul agreed with a higher court’s decision in another case that victims’ behaviour “cannot be straitjacketed in that they must act and react in a certain manner”.

“

He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen

”

The magistrate added: “He was very consistent with his evidence and did not waver despite vigorous cross-examination. All in all, I find (his) details of the assault to be unusually convincing because it does contain a ring of truth that leaves me with no reasonable doubt.”

 

Following the conviction, Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon sought nine to 10 months' jail for Goh, and 14 to 15 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for Neo.

 

He pointed to aggravating factors such as the victim being a public transport worker and being trapped in an enclosed space where he could not take evasive action.

 

The prosecutor argued that because the victim was driving, Goh and Neo had taken advantage of his vulnerability and distracted him, which posed a safety hazard to the victim and other road users. Both accused persons were also voluntarily intoxicated.

 

Mr Karuppaya did not make submissions for a particular sentence, merely saying that he asked for leniency for his clients and that it would “leave a very bad mark on their lives in the future”.

 

The defence counsel also stated that the two men did not specifically get drunk to molest the victim.

 

Those convicted of molestation can be jailed for up to two years, fined, caned, or punished with any combination of the three.

 

 

They misunderstood the meaning of grab driver.

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/7/2022 at 5:43 AM, Guest Guest said:

Wow! Thanks for the summary!

 

With so much teasing and rubbing from the "tag team" (later followed by more from Goh), the reports did not say whether the Grab driver came or not, right? LOL! 😅

 

You're welcome!

Actually, when I was typing that summary, that thought did cross my mind: whether the two men did cause the victim to climax in the car. Unfortunately, the media reports would omit this detail, even if it was brought up in court.

 

My guess is that he didn't. Likely, the two men just wanted to make the driver aroused, basically edge him, to use a slang term.

 

That being so, I am sure the two men would have succeeded in causing the younger man's penis to be "pre-loaded" with blood and semen after so much stimulation, making the driver have an erection for the most part of the car journey. Probably the driver was also leaking pre-cum by the time he got home, with some of it staining his underwear.

 

 

That means the Grab driver would have had to properly pleasure himself and ejaculate after reaching home, if not his private parts would have felt extremely tight, "loaded", and aroused, courtesy of the two men. 

 

Poor guy! He sent the two men home and he did not even get paid. From Neil Rd to Hougang, and then to Ponggol. A taxi ride would have cost at least $40+, including the midnight surcharge.

 

On top of that, the two men took turns to caress the victim's chest and nipples against his will, and basically forcibly masturbated him throughout the entire car ride!

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/7/2022 at 10:44 AM, Since u r here said:

How would the driver even aroused? He was in pain and focusing on driving on the expressway!
Unless u r claiming he love that stimulation that much? 
If he is parking aside at the road or carpk, yes it is obvious there might be a possibility! 

 

I didn't say the driver was aroused, but that was what the two men were trying to achieve. Yeah, you are right that he was definitely distressed by what the two men were doing to him, especially since he was driving at a high speed on the CTE. Firstly, what they were doing was very risky. Secondly, because he was driving, there was no way for the victim to defend himself, unless he were to stop the car and run out.

 

Still, I'm sure he had to go home to masturbate and ejaculate, in order to relieve the pressure that had been building up in his private parts when the two men repeatedly rubbed it during the car ride. 

[Guest Srsly?]

On 7/7/2022 at 8:52 AM, Guest Try and see said:

 

You're welcome!

Actually, when I was typing that summary, that thought did cross my mind: whether the two men did cause the victim to climax in the car. Unfortunately, the media reports would omit this detail, even if it was brought up in court.

 

My guess is that he didn't. Likely, the two men just wanted to make the driver aroused, basically edge him, to use a slang term.

 

That being so, I am sure the two men would have succeeded in causing the younger man's penis to be "pre-loaded" with blood and semen after so much stimulation, making the driver have an erection for the most part of the car journey. Probably the driver was also leaking pre-cum by the time he got home, with some of it staining his underwear.

 

 

That means the Grab driver would have had to properly pleasure himself and ejaculate after reaching home, if not his private parts would have felt extremely tight, "loaded", and aroused, courtesy of the two men. 

 

Poor guy! He sent the two men home and he did not even get paid. From Neil Rd to Hougang, and then to Ponggol. A taxi ride would have cost at least $40+, including the midnight surcharge.

 

On top of that, the two men took turns to caress the victim's chest and nipples against his will, and basically forcibly masturbated him throughout the entire car ride!

 

On 7/7/2022 at 11:01 AM, Guest Try and see said:

 

I didn't say the driver was aroused, but that was what the two men were trying to achieve. Yeah, you are right that he was definitely distressed by what the two men were doing to him, especially since he was driving at a high speed on the CTE. Firstly, what they were doing was very risky. Secondly, because he was driving, there was no way for the victim to defend himself, unless he were to stop the car and run out.

 

Still, I'm sure he had to go home to masturbate and ejaculate, in order to relieve the pressure that had been building up in his private parts when the two men repeatedly rubbed it during the car ride. 

Desperate trolling from a desperate troll 

[Guest Ericsson]

We should really ask why such an article is out at this time when we are actively deliberating over lgbtqia+/377a issues 

[Guest Srsly?]

On 7/7/2022 at 11:21 AM, Since u r here said:

i was trying to indicate that the epic fail : for the 2men thinkin of arousing him on the expressway will turn all for naught or went down to drain or down w the expressway (arent they men too?)

 

 

huh, u sure? i felt he is bz calling the police? need to collect evidence right, your clothings .........

in the past, We reported loss of properties in office,  the forensic dept came back again,  took dna /fingerprints from bags and tables etc 

of course he didn’t go home and jerk off!!! He was sexually assaulted by two guys… ffs. 
 

guest try and see is just sharing his own sad fantasies 

[Guest Guest]

In reality, can one enjoy and have pleasure (rather than feeling pain) while being sucked and fondled by another person (whether male or female) while driving on the expressway?? 😝

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/7/2022 at 12:05 PM, Guest Guest said:

In reality, can one enjoy and have pleasure (rather than feeling pain) while being sucked and fondled by another person (whether male or female) while driving on the expressway?? 😝

 

Yes, but it's very dangerous. Not recommended at all.

The two guys should be thankful that their car did not crash!

 

[Guest Try and see]

Their sentencing is out:

 

Two men get jail time, caning for 'repeatedly and mercilessly' molesting male Grab driver

 

On Thursday (July 7), Neo, a 41-year-old Singaporean, was sentenced to 14 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for the incident that took place in 2018.

Goh, a 40-year-old Malaysian, was sentenced to 12 months' jail and two strokes of the cane.

 

CANNOT FACE STRANGERS ANYMORE

In his sentencing remarks on Thursday, the judge recounted the victim's testimony during the trial, noting that the incident "left an indelible mark" on him.

 

Magistrate Hairul added: "In the words of the victim, he expressed that he still feels 'traumatised' and is unable to face strangers anymore.

 

More details:

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/2-men-get-jail-time-caning-repeatedly-and-mercilessly-molesting-male-grab-driver-1938281

[singalion]

 

Judgment is out:

 

 

Jail, caning for two men who molested Grab driver while victim was driving them home

ST Published 8 July 2022

 

SINGAPORE - After a night of merrymaking, two friends boarded a private-hire car and ended up molesting the male driver.

 

During the trial, the Grab driver, 28, who cannot be named due to a gag order to protect his identity, told the court that during the ride, his two passengers - Neo Wei Meng and Goh Suet Hong - also directed several inappropriate comments at him.

 

The victim testified that the men had told him that they found him cute and that “God had sent them to pleasure him”.

They also told the victim that “they were women disguised as men”, the court heard.

 

On Thursday (July 7), Goh, 40, was sentenced to a year’s jail with two strokes of the cane, while Neo, 41, was sentenced to 14 months’ jail with three strokes of the cane.

 

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen, who had earlier convicted each offender of one count of molestation after a trial, said that unlike Goh’s charge, Neo’s involved direct skin-to-skin contact with the victim’s private parts.

 

 

Before handing down the sentences on Thursday, the magistrate said the victim had gone through a harrowing ordeal in which he was repeatedly and mercilessly molested by the pair.

 

 

Magistrate Hairul said that the incident left an indelible mark on the victim, adding that the man still feels traumatised and is unable to face strangers.

 

He said that the victim, who now does food delivery, cannot face customers, and when he does, he will run away after handing over the food.

 

The magistrate added that the pair had committed group sexual assault on a public transport worker while the man was driving and this posed a safety hazard to the victim, as well as other road users.

 

 

Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon earlier stated in his submissions that before boarding the victim’s car, Goh and Neo had gone to a nightspot called Ebar in Neil Road on the evening of Nov 11, 2018. They then consumed alcoholic drinks.

 

In the wee hours of the next day, Neo made a vehicle booking on Grab.

The DPP said: “When they boarded the victim’s car, they were feeling the effects of the alcohol they had rapidly consumed and their inhibitions were lowered.

 

“Both Neo and Goh sat in the rear seat when they entered the victim’s car. The prosecution’s case is that Goh sat directly behind the victim, while Neo sat in the middle of the rear passenger seat.”

 

The court heard that the man was driving along the Central Expressway towards his first stop, Neo’s address in Hougang, when Goh used his right hand to reach over the victim’s right shoulder and across the victim’s chest.

 

Goh then touched the victim’s chest, the court heard.

 

 

The DPP said that at the same time, Neo leaned forward and touched the victim’s genitals.

 

According to the prosecution, at some point, the two offenders switched their actions.

 

DPP Menon told the court: “The victim did not consent to any of this contact. In fact, he repeatedly testified that he told Neo and Goh to stop on multiple occasions. They ignored him.”

 

Neo left the car when they reached his destination in Hougang.

 

Goh then moved to the front passenger seat, the court heard, and the victim began driving towards his address in Punggol.

 

The DPP said: “Almost immediately after they had set off for Punggol from Hougang, Goh kissed the victim on his left cheek and on his lips.  Goh also rubbed the victim’s (genitals). The victim did not consent to this contact.”

 

 

Once they arrived in Punggol, Goh instructed the victim to enter a multi-storey carpark. He then told the victim to wait for him after he alighted from the car to relieve himself.

 

Instead, the driver seized the opportunity to leave the scene.

 

He drove to Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre, where he filed a police report.

 

The court heard that the victim did not shout for help earlier as he was afraid that his two passengers might attack him if he did so.

 

The DPP said: "The victim did not flee the scene in Hougang because he needed to complete the trip to avoid being suspended by Grab. At the time, Grab was his only source of income.

 

"Similarly, the victim did not terminate the trip early because if he did not complete the trip, his Grab account would be suspended."

 

The DPP said that Neo’s defence was that of bare denial. He told the magistrate: “(Neo claimed) he got into the victim’s car and promptly fell asleep, waking up only when nearing his house... The victim... testified that neither Goh nor Neo slept during the trip.”

 

DPP Menon added: “The victim’s testimony should be given full credit. He wasted no time in reporting the offences at Punggol Neighbourhood Police Centre when they were fresh in his mind. He has no reason to lie or to falsely implicate either Neo or Goh.”

 

Goh and Neo were represented by lawyer Kalaithasan Karuppaya from Regent Law.

 

On Thursday, Mr Kalaithasan told the court that the offenders intend to appeal against their convictions and sentences.

 

For molestation, an offender can be jailed for up to two years, fined, caned or receive any combination of such punishments.

 

 

[Guest A Victim]

Reading this news reminded me of the time I was assaulted at my workplace. He would brushed his hands on my chest to touch my nipples and touch my butts too. It happened whenever we are working together and I always took the chance to avoid him if possible. 

I share this with a couple of my female colleagues and they were shocked and at times look out for me if he is present. 

[Guest Guest]

On 7/8/2022 at 4:56 AM, Guest A Victim said:

Reading this news reminded me of the time I was assaulted at my workplace. He would brushed his hands on my chest to touch my nipples and touch my butts too. It happened whenever we are working together and I always took the chance to avoid him if possible. 

I share this with a couple of my female colleagues and they were shocked and at times look out for me if he is present. 

"Assaulted" seems like a very serious word.

 

Just curious ... if this person is your dream guy / crush / someone you like, will you try to avoid him but rather let him touch you whenever or where ever he wanted? 

[Guest Guest]

NSF Repeatedly Sexually Assaulted By Bunk Mate Feels "Helpless"

 

"This incident left me really scared and helpless to speak up. Every time I see him, all of a sudden I feel so small and scared, like I have no power and he can do anything to me."

 

https://singaporeuncensored.com/nsf-allegedly-molested-by-bunk-mate-grab-his-kukubird-says-wow-its-hairy/

[Guest A Victim]

On 7/8/2022 at 6:14 AM, Guest Guest said:

"Assaulted" seems like a very serious word.

 

Just curious ... if this person is your dream guy / crush / someone you like, will you try to avoid him but rather let him touch you whenever or where ever he wanted? 

Of course if he is my dream guy/ someone I like, I would have given him consent to touch me. But this guys is like 20 years older and married with 2 kids, one of them is a teenage girl. I complaint to my other colleagues that he should have thought about his daughter before going around touching others.

 

[Guest A Victim]

On 7/8/2022 at 1:13 PM, Since u r here said:

if it is fun time, yes! of cos

if it is in a professnl setting eg Grab driving, no way! 

 

 

in a workplace, when it happened, why speak to fmale colleagues (only)? and not to a neutral party to assess the situation professionally eg HR

 

It happened 3-4 years ago at my ex company (how ironic now I am too a grab delivery rider delivering food). 

If I did remember correctly, I let almost all of my colleagues (most of them are ladies) knew about the matter and since he (the molester) is from a different department but are working closely with a group of us, we did not share much about what we talk about among ourselves with him. 

But one of the ladies that are in my group is around 50 plus years old. She subtly let him know not to go around touch touch people. 

I did let my immediate Boss know about it. He was shocked cause he couldn't believe the molester would do something like this. Because infront of my Boss he would act professionally but with me he would joke and touch. Eventually we did not work with him anymore as he was replace with someone else. But I am always caution and on high alert and my other colleagues would alert me if he comes around to pay us a visit. I would hide away.

 

Okay maybe abit lengthy post but writing this reminded me again of another incident happened maybe early last year. Its another company I work with after I resigned from the company above that I just mentioned.

I was a trainee so there was alot of paperwork and online course modules that I need to complete. While I was in the computer room alone doing my online course module, my immediate ex Boss came in and sit beside me to take a look at my progress.

Apparently, on one of the online course module there is this image of a beautiful lady staff and my ex Boss said to me, "You like her? Pretty right?? You like her? Or you like guys??" saying this while he rub my back. Right at this moment another female manager walked in and saw what he did to me and she said, "Oi hey hey!" and my ex Boss stop doing what he did.

I was shocked. I felt so disgusted. I was frozen. I did not know how to react or what to say the moment he did that to me. I did not expect him to do that as he is my immediate Boss. I totally lost my respect towards him after that. Let's just say I didn't survive long in that company and resign after 1 year.

 

So to those that say why the grab driver didn't react like go straight to police station with the 2 molesters or shout for help when there was a police car station past them, you guys clearly wouldn't know the feeling of how it is to be in that kind of situation.

 

[Guest Guest]

On 7/8/2022 at 8:20 PM, Guest A Victim said:

 

It happened 3-4 years ago at my ex company (how ironic now I am too a grab delivery rider delivering food). 

If I did remember correctly, I let almost all of my colleagues (most of them are ladies) knew about the matter and since he (the molester) is from a different department but are working closely with a group of us, we did not share much about what we talk about among ourselves with him. 

But one of the ladies that are in my group is around 50 plus years old. She subtly let him know not to go around touch touch people. 

I did let my immediate Boss know about it. He was shocked cause he couldn't believe the molester would do something like this. Because infront of my Boss he would act professionally but with me he would joke and touch. Eventually we did not work with him anymore as he was replace with someone else. But I am always caution and on high alert and my other colleagues would alert me if he comes around to pay us a visit. I would hide away.

 

Okay maybe abit lengthy post but writing this reminded me again of another incident happened maybe early last year. Its another company I work with after I resigned from the company above that I just mentioned.

I was a trainee so there was alot of paperwork and online course modules that I need to complete. While I was in the computer room alone doing my online course module, my immediate ex Boss came in and sit beside me to take a look at my progress.

Apparently, on one of the online course module there is this image of a beautiful lady staff and my ex Boss said to me, "You like her? Pretty right?? You like her? Or you like guys??" saying this while he rub my back. Right at this moment another female manager walked in and saw what he did to me and she said, "Oi hey hey!" and my ex Boss stop doing what he did.

I was shocked. I felt so disgusted. I was frozen. I did not know how to react or what to say the moment he did that to me. I did not expect him to do that as he is my immediate Boss. I totally lost my respect towards him after that. Let's just say I didn't survive long in that company and resign after 1 year.

 

So to those that say why the grab driver didn't react like go straight to police station with the 2 molesters or shout for help when there was a police car station past them, you guys clearly wouldn't know the feeling of how it is to be in that kind of situation.

 

Your ex-boss is bi? You must be very good looking .. your ex-boss and ex-married/older than you by 20 years colleague lusting over you ....? But as a gay, like the rest said, why didn't you take it as a compliment? But rather feeling shocked, disgusted, frozen .... it depends on the person who touched you?

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/8/2022 at 8:20 PM, Guest A Victim said:

So to those that say why the grab driver didn't react like go straight to police station with the 2 molesters or shout for help when there was a police car station past them, you guys clearly wouldn't know the feeling of how it is to be in that kind of situation.

 

Yeah, lots of ignorant people on FB were asking why the Grab driver didn't punch the two guys, or beat them up, or run out of the car, or drive straight to the police station with them in the car, etc. 🤦‍♂️

It's very easy to make smart suggestions when one is typing at home comfortably on the computer or smartphone, instead of being in the midst of the situation.

 

 

The 2nd guy who ordered the Grab driver to stop at the multi-storey carpark was surely planning to violate him properly without being interrupted by passing police cars or pedestrians.

 

The victim's decision to drive off with the 2nd guy's belongings (while that guy was still urinating behind a pillar) was a very smart one, considering the state of mind he must have been in. 

 

Any other alternative would have put his own life and well-being in jeopardy.

[Guest A Victim]

On 7/8/2022 at 9:29 PM, Guest Guest said:

Your ex-boss is bi? You must be very good looking .. your ex-boss and ex-married/older than you by 20 years colleague lusting over you ....? But as a gay, like the rest said, why didn't you take it as a compliment? But rather feeling shocked, disgusted, frozen .... it depends on the person who touched you?

 

My ex boss is a married man with a 1 year old daughter. I'm not sure if he's a bi or not. I don't think he is though. My gaydar didn't pick up any signals while working with him.

Well then let me ask, if you would like anyone to touch you? Will you feel happy, contented about it if its non mutual? 

I didn't take it as a compliment because I didn't expect a Boss that I respect and look up to, to behave that way. Same goes to the other 20yr senior guy.

And then if you were to ask me again, what if a younger guy touch me? Then it depends on the setting of the environment. Both of my encounters were at workplaces where one is expected to behave professionally. By doing what they did, I felt shocked, out of place because I didn't expect things like this to occur in a workplace.

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/8/2022 at 8:20 PM, Guest A Victim said:

If I did remember correctly, I let almost all of my colleagues (most of them are ladies) knew about the matter and since he (the molester) is from a different department but are working closely with a group of us, we did not share much about what we talk about among ourselves with him. 

But one of the ladies that are in my group is around 50 plus years old. She subtly let him know not to go around touch touch people. 

I did let my immediate Boss know about it. He was shocked cause he couldn't believe the molester would do something like this. Because infront of my Boss he would act professionally but with me he would joke and touch. Eventually we did not work with him anymore as he was replace with someone else. But I am always caution and on high alert and my other colleagues would alert me if he comes around to pay us a visit. I would hide away.

 

That's a smart thing to do, letting all your colleagues know what that guy is up to. A bully loses power when his actions are exposed. Also, it's very good that they all believed you and even protected you from him!

[Guest Dumb af]

On 7/8/2022 at 10:04 PM, Guest Try and see said:

 

Yeah, lots of ignorant people on FB were asking why the Grab driver didn't punch the two guys, or beat them up, or run out of the car, or drive straight to the police station with them in the car, etc. 🤦‍♂️

It's very easy to make smart suggestions when one is typing at home comfortably on the computer or smartphone, instead of being in the midst of the situation.

 

 

The 2nd guy who ordered the Grab driver to stop at the multi-storey carpark was surely planning to violate him properly without being interrupted by passing police cars or pedestrians.

 

The victim's decision to drive off with the 2nd guy's belongings (while that guy was still urinating behind a pillar) was a very smart one, considering the state of mind he must have been in. 

 

Any other alternative would have put his own life and well-being in jeopardy.

hang on. So you managed to understand all this but a few posts ago, you were insisting that the driver would have had to jerk off when he got home?! Good that your brain finally kicked in. 

[Guest Sadday]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/grab-driver-molest-sexual-assault-two-men-jail-caning-appeal-2794081

 

 

SINGAPORE: Two men convicted of molesting their Grab driver while travelling on the expressway were on Thursday (Jul 7) sentenced to jail and caning.

Neo Wei Meng, 41, was given one year and two months' jail and three strokes of the cane, while Goh Suet Hong, 40, received a year's jail and two strokes of the cane.

Earlier this week, each man was found guilty of one count of using criminal force to outrage the modesty of the then 28-year-old victim.

The victim picked Goh and Neo up in his Grab car at Neil Road after midnight on Nov 12, 2018. They told him he looked "very cute".

They then carried out what a magistrate called a "group sexual assault" against the victim by touching him inappropriately, including his private parts and nipples.

They did this while the victim drove from Neil Road to Neo's home in Hougang, ignoring his repeated pleas to stop. This was the first leg of the journey.

After Neo alighted, Goh then moved to the front passenger seat and continued the assault.

Goh touched the victim's private parts and kissed his lips as he drove to Goh's home in Punggol. This was the second leg of the journey.

The offences took place in a car along the Central Expressway (CTE) between 1.18am and 3.03am on Nov 12, 2018.

PROSECUTION AMENDS SENTENCE

Deputy Public Prosecutor David Menon sought 14 to 15 months' jail and three strokes of the cane for Neo.

He initially sought nine to 10 months' jail and no caning for Goh, but raised this to 12 to 13 months and two strokes of the cane after the court sought clarification on the sentencing position.

Mr Menon explained on Thursday that Goh's prolonged contact with the victim's private parts, even though it was not skin-to-skin contact, was an aggravating factor that warranted caning.

He argued that the court was also allowed to take into consideration Goh's conduct during the first leg of the journey. Goh was only charged for his assault of the victim during the second leg.

The sentence sought for Neo was higher in order to reflect the higher degree of sexual intrusion from making skin-on-skin contact with the victim's private parts during the first leg.

Defence counsel Kalaithasan Karuppaya asked for leniency and mercy, and sentences at the lower range of the penalties sought by the prosecution.

VICTIM "TRAUMATISED"

Delivering his sentence, Magistrate Hairul Hakkim Kuthibutheen said the experience of being "repeatedly and mercilessly" molested had left an "indelible mark" on the victim.

At trial, the victim testified that he took about a month after the assault to resume his work as a Grab driver, and even then only for a few hours each day.

The victim, who now delivers food, has said that he felt "traumatised" and was unable to face strangers, the magistrate noted.

He had told the court: "I do not dare to face the customer. So what I do is I just hand the food at the door and run away."

The magistrate took as aggravating factors the victim's status as a public transport worker, Goh and Neo's state of voluntary intoxication at the time and the fact that they assaulted the victim while he was driving, endangering him and other road users.

He said that Neo's offending was aggravated by his prolonged skin-to-skin contact with the victim's private parts.

He said that while Goh's offending involved indirect contact with the victim's private parts, it was still prolonged contact and Goh also kissed the victim for about three minutes.

The magistrate also considered the immediate background to Goh's offences, which was the group sexual assault with Neo during the first leg of the journey.

He also considered Goh's actions for which he had not been charged, including making skin-to-skin contact with the victim's private parts during the first leg.

Magistrate Hairul Hakkim emphasised that he was only empowered to sentence Goh for his offences during the second leg for which he was charged.

He said it was "not the role of the courts" to question why the prosecution chose not to charge Goh for his actions during the first leg, or to include details of his conduct during both legs in a single charge.

He added that if either had been done, Goh could have received a heavier sentence than Neo.

"One could say that Goh has done what Neo did, which is to touch the victim's (private parts) skin-to-skin, plus more in the second leg," said the magistrate.

Both Goh and Neo have filed appeals against their convictions and sentences.

They could have been jailed for up to two years jail, fined, caned or any combination of these punishments for using criminal force to outrage a person's modesty.

 

[Guest Sadday]

Two men came out from Neil road drinking at one of the gay bars. Once out of the bar, sadly forgot how to behave

 

There is a thick line to be drawn. Respecting other people, even fellow AJ friends, what more straight men whom you don't know. 

 

 

[Guest Try and see]

On 7/9/2022 at 11:36 AM, Guest Dumb af said:

hang on. So you managed to understand all this but a few posts ago, you were insisting that the driver would have had to jerk off when he got home?! Good that your brain finally kicked in. 

 

Oh man, why do you keep harassing me about that? That was just my opinion; you could have ignored it, bro.

[Guest Dumb af]

On 7/9/2022 at 12:05 PM, Guest Try and see said:

 

Oh man, why do you keep harassing me about that? That was just my opinion; you could have ignored it, bro.

because it was utterly stupid on your part… but, anyway, your brain seems to be working better now, so that’s good. No need to discuss further. 

[superflawless]

Good. Who wants to be grabbed/manhandled by anyone they don't fancy?

 

I CERTAINLY DON'T. 

All sexual perverts, whatever they sexual preference, should be punished accordingly to the law. 

[Guest Guest]

Wait!! So the Grab driver basically drove along the long stretch of the CTE with his pants unzipped, and with his cock exposed and being continuously fondled by those 2 guys??!

I just can't picture that!! 😱😱

[Guest fresh7up]

On 7/9/2022 at 11:06 PM, Guest Guest said:

Wait!! So the Grab driver basically drove along the long stretch of the CTE with his pants unzipped, and with his cock exposed and being continuously fondled by those 2 guys??!

I just can't picture that!! 😱😱

 

It doesn't specifically mention that. But during the first leg of the journey, there was a skin-to-skin touching on the private part. Maybe just unzipped and one of the guys grope in through the driver's underwear, we don't know.

[Guest Guest]

So all gays are actually woman disguised as a man....now I know.

 

[Guest Guest]

the victim must have gotten hard (natural reaction) from all the touching and rubbing. but that 2 sisters took it wrongly and got more daring.