Elon Musk and Twitter

[singalion]

3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

There is nothing to admit because satellites advancement help fight climate change. 
 

As usual, you are distracting and diverting attention away from how Musk’s potential contributions to fight climate change through SpaceX development of rockets and putting satellites into orbit. 
 

Without Satellites, scientists will not have any satellite data to analyse. You just couldn’t stop arguing how your reasoning is illogical that satellites are not important compared to satellites data in fighting climate change. 😂 

 

You are the one distracting. 

 

The question wasn't whether satellites are important but whether satellites impact climate change...

 

If you look at this question from the average intelligence level of Fox Media viewers, then probably such viewers might be convinced that satellites impact climate change...

 

But for anyone with a higher intelligence level than the average Fox viewer, such person would just shake the head and laugh in disbelief of such an amount of stupidity. 

 

But 7heaven feel free to belong to the Fox viewer average. 

 

 

[7heaven]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

You are the one distracting. 

 

The question wasn't whether satellites are important but whether satellites impact climate change...

 

If you look at this question from the average intelligence level of Fox Media viewers, then probably such viewers might be convinced that satellites impact climate change...

 

But for anyone with a higher intelligence level than the average Fox viewer, such person would just shake the head and laugh in disbelief of such an amount of stupidity. 

 

But 7heaven feel free to belong to the Fox viewer average. 

 

 

You are the one who is obviously distracting by bringing up irrelevant information such as a political party in US. 
 

Satellites are crucial in helping fight climate change. Anyone who has basic understanding of science and technology will know this. 

[sgmaven]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

Here, you can do an infinite GOTO loop by heading to the answer here and see if it can penetrate into brain after all your Permanent Head Damage: 

 

 

Unfortunately, you will still have to convince the MAGA crowd that climate change is a real phenomenon... They still think it is some Left-Wing Conspiracy Theory... Changing "human behaviour" alone, without the science to develop alternatives will not get anywhere.

[sgmaven]

39 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Satellites are crucial in helping fight climate change. Anyone who has basic understanding of science and technology will know this. 

Satellites are crucial in "helping" fight climate change, by providing data. Unfortunately, the GOP that Elon Musk is advocating support for is dead against any curbing of the use of fossil fuels... So it seems that any "change in human behaviour" to reverse climate change has to start with Elon Musk's decision to support the GOP...

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Satellites are crucial in "helping" fight climate change, by providing data. Unfortunately, the GOP that Elon Musk is advocating support for is dead against any curbing of the use of fossil fuels... So it seems that any "change in human behaviour" to reverse climate change has to start with Elon Musk's decision to support the GOP...

 

If in year 2000 the early champion of the fight against global warming, Al Gore, had won the presidency,  we would be much further ahead in the protection of our environment.  Instead, this weakling G.W Bush won the presidency and he yielded to the GOP's support of the fossil fuel industry.  This should have been a perfect time to argue that the elections had been stolen by a miserable supreme court politically biased to the right. 

 

The fact that the GOP has such a lack of moral principles stains so much the image of Elon Musk, a supporter of the GOP and some other stupid conspiracy theories.  The man should be intelligent enough to repudiate the GOP, but there may be some obscure personal interests that make him take the positions that he takes.  Society should be cautious with him and try to neutralize him as much as possible.  

[singalion]

8 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Satellites are crucial in "helping" fight climate change, by providing data. Unfortunately, the GOP that Elon Musk is advocating support for is dead against any curbing of the use of fossil fuels... So it seems that any "change in human behaviour" to reverse climate change has to start with Elon Musk's decision to support the GOP...

 

The whole behaviour of the complete Elon Musk family is most probably adding more to global warming than the average American.

And for the average American the contribution to global warming it is already higher than for citizens of other countries.

 

Just look here how Musk contributes to global warming:

 

https://grndcntrl.net/

 

https://grndcntrl.net/links/

 

Elon Musk, the richest person in the world, is a big fan of private jets – and he just added a new one to his collection.

The 51-year-old recently bought a Gulfstream G700, according to Texas-based news site Austonia, which is expected to replace his Gulfstream G650ER.

 

The Tesla boss regularly travels by private plane. In 2018, the billionaire flew more than 241,000km (150,000 miles) on his G650ER, according to flight records obtained by The Washington Post – that’s the equivalent of more than six times around the Earth.

 

Musk currently has four jets, three of which are made by Gulfstream. Musk also owns a Dassault 900B, the first jet he ever bought. All of Musk’s jets are registered to Falcon Landing LLC, a shell company with ties to Space X, the FAA registry shows.

 

Wasn't there someone on BW that wrote people should take commercial flights instead of private jets?

 

[singalion]

 

 

9 hours ago, 7heaven said:

You are the one who is obviously distracting by bringing up irrelevant information such as a political party in US. 
 

Satellites are crucial in helping fight climate change. Anyone who has basic understanding of science and technology will know this. 

 

9 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Unfortunately, you will still have to convince the MAGA crowd that climate change is a real phenomenon... They still think it is some Left-Wing Conspiracy Theory... Changing "human behaviour" alone, without the science to develop alternatives will not get anywhere.

 

Why irrelevant. Other members pointed to the same facts.

 

It is no distraction.

 

By the way it was you who started talking about climate change and satellites and wrongly asserting that measuring of weather patterns by  satellites has an impact on climate change.

 

On 12/16/2022 at 1:32 AM, 7heaven said:

Tackling climate change is important as are other issues such as advancing space technology. Ironically advancing space technology may help climate change by putting advance tools in space to monitor weather patterns, take measurements of the atmosphere composition etc.

 

Why do you now complain if we discuss this issue in all details.

 

And Members can't point to areas where you are wrong?

 

Somebody rightly pointed to the fact that monitoring weather patterns by space technology / satellites does not impact climate change.

 

Further, it is shocking to see that 75% of elected Republican Congress Members in the US are climate change deniers!

 

Please also show efforts on how you try to persuade Elon Musk to come clean with his climate change worrisome personal behaviour.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

Now Musk closed the chat function with twitter, only because some people were discussing about "elonjet"...

 

The best point on the complete issue is that the data published by that student is publicly available and everybody can retrieve the data.

 

It is like the millions of people who sat at the PC watching Pelosi in August 2022 flying into Taiwan if you remember...

 

Elon Musk Kills Twitter Audio Feature After Bizarre Talk With Journalists

December 16, 2022

 

Twitter Spaces, the audio feature that allows people to participate in group chats using the social media platform, has been disabled and it’s not clear whether it will ever return. The move comes after Elon Musk joined a group chat hosted by BuzzFeed reporter Katie Notopoulos on Thursday night, where the Twitter CEO spoke incoherently about his new rules around what the billionaire called “doxxing.”

 

Musk banned at least 10 different journalists on Thursday night that he alleges shared his location in real time. In reality, those journalists were merely reporting on the controversy surrounding the @ElonJets Twitter account, which pulls publicly available information about various aircraft.

 

Notopoulos started a Twitter Spaces chat after the ban on journalists, and at least three of the people who had been banned were able to join the conversation, including Matt Binder from Mashable, Drew Harwell from the Washington Post, and Jack Sweeney, the 20-year-old college student behind ElonJets.

 

Jason Calacanis, a venture capitalist who was brought on at Twitter during Musk’s acquisition but says he not longer works for the company, also joined the conversation, berating Sweeney and raising wild hypotheticals. Calacanis asked Sweeney repeatedly how he would feel if Musk or his family members were killed, a rather inflammatory question given the fact that there’s no evidence anyone has used @ElonJets to stalk or harass Musk.

 

Musk has claimed @ElonJets puts his family in danger, but said as recently as a few weeks ago that he’d allow the Twitter account to stay active because he believes in free speech. That obviously changed this week and Musk has even said he’ll take legal action against the man behind the account.

 

Musk also joined the Twitter Spaces chat with Notopoulos, but didn’t seem to make a lot of sense during his brief appearance.

 

“As I’m sure everyone who’s been doxxed would agree, drawing real-time information about somebody’s location is inappropriate and I think everyone on this call would not like that to be done to them. And there’s not going to be any distinction in the future between journalists, simple journalists, and regular people. Everyone’s going to be treated the same,” Musk said.

 

Journalists are obviously the targets of frequent doxxing, especially those who report on far-right movements like QAnon or Trumpism. But Musk seemed to believe his was a special case and that his circumstances were exceptional.

“They’re not special because you’re a journalist. You’re a Twitter… you’re a… you’re a citizen. So, no special treatment. You doxx, you get suspended, end of story,” Musk continued.

 

The word “doxxing” has traditionally been used to mean the sharing of private information such as a home address or private phone number in a public manner, but the word can mean different things to different people.

 

“And ban evasion, or trying to be clever about it… like, oh, I posted a link to the real-time information is obviously a… that is obviously simply trying to evade the meaning. That is… it’s no different from paste… from actually sharing real-time information,” Musk said, clearly struggling to make his point.

 

The term “ban evasion” had a very specific meaning at Twitter until Musk took over, meaning someone starting a new account after getting banned on the platform. But Musk obviously has a different definition for that term too.

 

Notopoulos asked if reporting on the controversy around ElonJets, a high-profile saga since it involves one of the world’s richest people, was enough to ban someone under these new rules.

 

“When you’re saying, posting links to it… some of the people, like Drew, and Ryan Mac from the New York Times, they were reporting on it in the course of pretty normal journalistic endeavours. You consider that, like, a tricky attempt at ban evasion?” Notopoulos asked.

 

“You share a link to the real-time information… ban evasion, obviously,” Musk said.

 

“Drew, I don’t think you were posting the real-time information, right?” Notopoulos asked Drew Harwell from the Washington Post.

 

“You’re suggesting that we’re sharing your address, which is not true. And you’re suggesting…” Harwell said.

“It is true,” Musk interrupted.

 

“We never… I never posted your address,” Harwell said.

 

“You posted a link to the address,” Musk claimed, though it’s not clear how a flight tracker might be called an address.

Musk has recently claimed that someone was stalking his 2-year-old son, even posting a video of someone he claimed had stopped his car, and has tried to suggest this was a direct result of the ElonJets account. But open-source intelligence researchers have located where the video was taken, noting it was nowhere near an airport and roughly a day later than any flight by Musk’s private jet.

“In the course of reporting about ElonJet we posted links to ElonJet, which are now not online, and are now banned on Twitter,” Harwell explained.

 

But then Harwell brought up the way in which Twitter was now blocking links to ElonJet on other social media platforms, similar to how the Hunter Biden laptop story was blocked in 2020, and Musk was clearly caught off-guard.

 

“Twitter also, of course, marks even the Instagram and Mastodon accounts of ElonJet as harmful, using… we have to acknowledge, using the same exact link-blocking technique that you have criticised as part of the Hunter Biden-New York Post story in 2020,” Harwell said.

 

“It’s no more acceptable for me…. for you than it is for me… it’s the same thing,” Musk said incoherently.

 

There was an awkward silence on the chat as Harwell and the moderators were clearly trying to make sense of what the billionaire was trying to say.

 

“So, anyway…” Musk continued.

 

“So it’s unacceptable, what you’re doing?” Harwell asked.

 

“No, what… you doxx, you get suspended, end of story, that’s it,” Musk said, before leaving the call.

 

Notopoulos tried to ask a follow-up question, but by then it had become clear Musk had left because he was flustered by getting asked real questions, rather than the more typical Twitter Space conversation where far-right Twitter users tell him how great he is.

 

 

Typically, after a live Twitter Spaces conversation has concluded, users are able to listen to the conversation. But the chat hosted by Notopoulos was cut short before she ended it herself, and isn’t available in its entirety. Some Twitter and YouTube users have posted clips from the conversation that are still available as of this writing.

 

“Huh, appears the recording of this Space is strangely not available, funny that! Thanks to everyone who tuned in! Let’s do it again sometime,” Notopoulos tweeted.

 

At this point it’s obviously a futile exercise to try and make any sense of Twitter’s rules. Musk’s decision to keep Alex Jones banned, while reinstating several neo-Nazis, makes it clear that content moderation on the platform is based solely on the billionaire’s whims.

 

And Musk is completely within his rights to moderate Twitter however he likes, since he bought the platform for $US44 ($61) billion. But he should stop saying he has some deeper commitment to “free speech absolutism” or whatever bullshit he’s peddling this week. Own what you’re really doing and people will have a little more respect for you.

 

 

 

=> Free Speech is what Elon Musk in his own personal definition considers as "Free Speech". That sounds quite like the word creation of "alternative facts" to me, so we better call Musk's free speech as "alternative free speech"!

 

 

[singalion]

 

Tesla’s Promise of a Fully Self-Driving Car Merely an ‘Aspirational Goal,’ Lawyers Say

December 14, 2022

 

 

Tesla’s lawyers argued in a brief filed last month that, even though the company’s CEO promised fully self-driving cars for the last nine years and failed to deliver, no fraud was perpetrated against owners.

 

Elon Musk has promised full self-driving cars multiple times a year for almost a decade now. Some of the owners who believed in Musk and his company’s promises paid for so-called Full Self-Driving Capability at a premium. After several price hikes, FSD Beta now costs $US15,000 . Driver who pay this hefty price tag are considered beta testers and this unproven technology is available to all owners, even the ones who fail the company’s safe driving test.

 

The complaint accused Tesla and Musk of having since 2016 deceptively advertised the technology as fully functioning or “just around the corner” despite knowing that the technology did not work or was nonexistent, and made vehicles unsafe.

 

 

https://jalopnik.com/teslas-promise-of-a-fully-self-driving-car-merely-an-as-1849887546?utm_source=YPL

 

 

 

 

 

[Why?]

On 12/18/2022 at 12:35 PM, Steve5380 said:

It has been years that I am trapped with no escape.  The trap is my happy Lies with little worries.

Shocking. 

[Steve5380]

On 12/17/2022 at 10:35 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

It has been years that I am trapped with no escape.  The trap is my happy life with little worries.  

 

 

5 minutes ago, Why? said:

Shocking. 

 

There is nothing shocking in this revelation that you are a liar and deceiver,  since you had proved this before.   Here it is obvious how you edited my post to make it into a bashing.   Dumb, dumb...

[Why?]

21 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

 

There is nothing shocking in this revelation that you are a liar and deceiver,  since you had proved this before.   Here it is obvious how you edited my post to make it into a bashing.   Dumb, dumb...

To accommodate western readers like you, I'm doing what the western media is doing. You cannot criticize me for attempting to conform to western media culture because that is the current global trend. In fact, it's not too much to ask for a little gratitude from you.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Why?

[7heaven]

14 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Satellites are crucial in "helping" fight climate change, by providing data. Unfortunately, the GOP that Elon Musk is advocating support for is dead against any curbing of the use of fossil fuels... So it seems that any "change in human behaviour" to reverse climate change has to start with Elon Musk's decision to support the GOP...

The world is not just about US and the sitting US president Biden and Democrats who have the majority in Congress when it comes to fighting climate change and protecting the environment around the world, or anything for that matter. 
 

Elon Musk can still pursue his ambitions of revolutionising rocket technology and satellite technology through his company SpaceX in hope of fighting climate change independent of the political party he supports. In fact, his electric vehicle company Tesla is at odds with GOP which you claim is against any curbing of use of fossil fuels, and yet Musk still support GOP. So we can see Musk is able to objectively to think for himself and act independently in the pursue of betterment of mankind despite conflicting objectives of the party he support. 

[7heaven]

6 hours ago, singalion said:

 

The whole behaviour of the complete Elon Musk family is most probably adding more to global warming than the average American.

And for the average American the contribution to global warming it is already higher than for citizens of other countries.

 

Just look here how Musk contributes to global warming:

 

https://grndcntrl.net/

 

https://grndcntrl.net/links/

 

Elon Musk, the richest person in the world, is a big fan of private jets – and he just added a new one to his collection.

The 51-year-old recently bought a Gulfstream G700, according to Texas-based news site Austonia, which is expected to replace his Gulfstream G650ER.

 

The Tesla boss regularly travels by private plane. In 2018, the billionaire flew more than 241,000km (150,000 miles) on his G650ER, according to flight records obtained by The Washington Post – that’s the equivalent of more than six times around the Earth.

 

Musk currently has four jets, three of which are made by Gulfstream. Musk also owns a Dassault 900B, the first jet he ever bought. All of Musk’s jets are registered to Falcon Landing LLC, a shell company with ties to Space X, the FAA registry shows.

 

Wasn't there someone on BW that wrote people should take commercial flights instead of private jets?

 

Ironically US President Biden‘s appointed Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry, the very person supposedly should be walking the talk to fight climate change has family private jet that made numerous trips emitting tons and tons of carbon. 

It’s almost like a law enforcement officer telling people to abide by the law but he or she himself goes on to break the laws. 😂 

 

—————

 

John Kerry's family private jet emitted over 300 metric tons of carbon since Biden took office

Special presidential envoy for climate John Kerry arrived in Berlin, Germany on Tuesday for the Petersberg Climate Dialogue

 

EXCLUSIVE: Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry's family jet has emitted over 300 metric tons of carbon dioxide since the Biden administration began, federal data shows.

 

Kerry's family jet, a Gulfstream GIV-SP, has made a total of 48 trips lasting more than 60 hours and emitted an estimated 715,886 pounds, or 325 metric tons, of carbon since President Biden was sworn into office, according to federal data obtained by Fox News Digital via FlightAware. The plane belongs to Flying Squirrel LLC., a charter company owned by Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz-Kerry and in which Kerry reported owning a more than $1 million stake on his most recent financial disclosure.
 

President Biden appointed Kerry to lead the State Department's global climate policy outreach shortly after taking office in January 2021. Since then, Kerry has traveled around the world to United Nations (UN) climate conferences, meetings with international heads of state and the World Economic Forum's (WEF) annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland.

 

The climate envoy is slated to jet off this week to the Petersberg Climate Dialogue, a UN summit where representatives from 40 countries will negotiate emissions reductions and climate financing for developing nations, in Berlin, Germany.

 

…

 

After Biden announced he would pick Kerry to be climate envoy, Kerry tweeted Americans "will soon have a government that treats the climate crisis as the urgent national security threat it is." He has also repeatedly pushed for a green transition away from fossil fuels, warning polluters of major consequences.

 

Kerry said the U.S. must begin shutting down existing power plants, not building new ones, during remarks given in January.

 

"The problem with folks like John Kerry and the climate hypocrites who run the green movement is that they want to use the coercive power of government," Executive Director of Power The Future Daniel Turner told Fox News Digital in an interview. "They want to use it internationally with groups like the UN, etc. They want to use the power of government to deny the rest of us the ability to use those fossil fuels that they take for granted."
 

"They refuse to voluntarily live how they want the rest of us to be forced to live," he continued "It doesn't just make them hypocrites, it makes them, quite frankly, a threat to the rights and freedoms of people around the world. When John Kerry voluntarily lives the way he wants the rest of us to be compelled to live, then we can talk about his climate goals."
 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-kerrys-family-private-jet-emitted-300-metric-tons-carbon-biden-took-office.amp

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by 7heaven
Dumb

[singalion]

54 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

 

Special presidential envoy for climate John Kerry arrived in Berlin, Germany on Tuesday for the Petersberg Climate Dialogue

Ironically US President Biden‘s appointed Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry, the very person supposedly should be walking the talk to fight climate change has family private jet that made numerous trips emitting tons and tons of carbon. 

It’s almost like a law enforcement officer telling people to abide by the law but he or she himself goes on to break the laws. 😂 

 

—————

 

John Kerry's family private jet emitted over 300 metric tons of carbon since Biden took office

 

 

EXCLUSIVE: Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry's family jet has emitted over 300 metric tons of carbon dioxide since the Biden administration began, federal data shows.

 

 

 

 

 

digression?

 

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by singalion

[singalion]

1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

Elon Musk can still pursue his ambitions of revolutionising rocket technology and satellite technology through his company SpaceX in hope of fighting climate change

 

 

You meant same as Elon Musk's promise on self driving cars it is just an aspirational goal???

 

 

Tesla’s Promise of a Fully Self-Driving Car Merely an ‘Aspirational Goal,’ Lawyers Say

December 14, 2022

 

 

Tesla’s lawyers argued in a brief filed last month that, even though the company’s CEO promised fully self-driving cars for the last nine years and failed to deliver, no fraud was perpetrated against owners.

 

Elon Musk has promised full self-driving cars multiple times a year for almost a decade now.

 

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

 

digression?

 

 

Nope. You brought up Elon Musk’s private jet but he is not the one who has been asking people to do more for climate change. Ironically biden’s own envoy for climate John Kerry is not walking the talk whose family has been using their private jet. 

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

 

You meant same as Elon Musk's promise on self driving cars it is just an aspirational goal???

 

 

Tesla’s Promise of a Fully Self-Driving Car Merely an ‘Aspirational Goal,’ Lawyers Say

December 14, 2022

 

 

Tesla’s lawyers argued in a brief filed last month that, even though the company’s CEO promised fully self-driving cars for the last nine years and failed to deliver, no fraud was perpetrated against owners.

 

Elon Musk has promised full self-driving cars multiple times a year for almost a decade now.

 

Yes. It as as aspirational as what the current leaders of the country which Musk lives in aspires to do to fight climate change. Lol. 

[Steve5380]

8 hours ago, Why? said:

To accommodate western readers like you, I'm doing what the western media is doing. You cannot criticize me for attempting to conform to western media culture because that is the current global trend. In fact, it's not too much to ask for a little gratitude from you.

 

To accommodate western readers like me, the best is to not distort what we write with falsities and instead let us be what we are.  Live and let live.  This will earn you gratitude from me   

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, 7heaven said:

The world is not just about US and the sitting US president Biden and Democrats who have the majority in Congress when it comes to fighting climate change and protecting the environment around the world, or anything for that matter. 
 

Elon Musk can still pursue his ambitions of revolutionising rocket technology and satellite technology through his company SpaceX in hope of fighting climate change independent of the political party he supports. In fact, his electric vehicle company Tesla is at odds with GOP which you claim is against any curbing of use of fossil fuels, and yet Musk still support GOP. So we can see Musk is able to objectively to think for himself and act independently in the pursue of betterment of mankind despite conflicting objectives of the party he support. 

 

No one disputes that Musk should be able to objectively think for himself and act independently.  What we challenge is that he "mainly pursues the betterment of mankind".  We observe that now he is pursuing his own betterment , for what he thinks ne needs to do this  ( he has already enough money ) with an ambition that is not positive.

[singalion]

LOL

 

Elon Musk’s Twitter poll says he should step down as chief executive – business live

Elon Musk says he will honour the results of a Twitter poll asking whether the should resign as head of the social media platform

 

 

[Guest Guest]

Just now, singalion said:

LOL

 

Elon Musk’s Twitter poll says he should step down as chief executive – business live

Elon Musk says he will honour the results of a Twitter poll asking whether the should resign as head of the social media platform

 

 

 

Sigh .... if only Biden would do the same based on his current popularity poll... 

[singalion]

Elon Musk’s Twitter poll: 10 million say he should step down

Billionaire chief executive of Tesla insists there is no successor in the wings at social media platform

 

Mon 19 Dec 2022

 

More than 10 million people have voted in favour of Elon Musk stepping down as the chief executive of Twitter in a poll he posted on the site late on Sunday.

However, the billionaire, who bought the company and installed himself as its head only 50 days ago, has insisted there is no successor in the wings. “No one wants the job who can actually keep Twitter alive,” he said on the social network. “There is no successor.”

 

On Sunday, Musk asked Twitter users whether he should step down as the head of the company, promising to abide by the results of his poll.

When the poll closed on Monday, 57.5% said he should step down.

 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

No one disputes that Musk should be able to objectively think for himself and act independently.  What we challenge is that he "mainly pursues the betterment of mankind".  We observe that now he is pursuing his own betterment , for what he thinks ne needs to do this  ( he has already enough money ) with an ambition that is not positive.

 

WOW! So you mean you are ""mainly pursues the betterment of mankind"? You are not "pursuing (YOUR) own betterment"? He cannot do so because "he has already enough money"?? 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

 

On 12/17/2022 at 8:56 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

At last you wrote a statement that makes sense.  Congratulations!

 

"Without XXXXX,  how do you get XXXXX data? "   This statement is universal, for any XXXXX, including my old measuring tape.

 

Satellites play an important role in today's life,  besides climate change.  Weather forecasting is steadily improving, and this is a big money and lives saver.   But... do not worry!   There are already plenty of weather satellites up there, and have been there for some time now.

 

On 12/18/2022 at 9:26 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

No, I am in agreement that just monitoring the weather has no impact on the weather.  Monitoring the outskirts of the universe with the James Webb space telescope has no impact on the outskirts of the universe.

 

 

It seems that you are shifting beyond the scope of this thread.  Our discussion started with Elon Musk's satellites. And we can obtain satellite data without having Musk's satellites.

 

On 17 Dec, someone wrote "Satellites play an important role in today's life,  besides climate change."; 

On 18 Dec,  the same person said "I am in agreement that just monitoring the weather has no impact on the weather."

 

Senility is growing on you, grandpa. 

 

 

[Steve5380]

22 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Senility is growing on you, grandpa. 

 

 

You misspelled what I am really growing in my senior years, babie.   It is SERENITY.  

[Steve5380]

36 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

 

 

You are definitely not aging well!  Not if in your 80 years you haven't been able to advance from the old moving-coil analog displays to modern LED or LCD digital displays. 

 

And what does it mean a hypocrisy of 150 ??   If mine is 150,  yours is 150,000,000. 

 

[Steve5380]

It seems that Elon Musk is getting ready to throw in the towel.  Poor guy!

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-twitter-ceo-poll_n_639fb8d4e4b044143048c4e8

Elon Musk Posts Twitter Poll Asking If He Should Step Down As CEO

The billionaire said he would "abide by the results" of the poll.

[7heaven]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Sigh .... if only Biden would do the same based on his current popularity poll... 

 

LOL. 
 

But if more says Biden should step down, there will be claims of Russian hackers interfering with the polls. 

[sgmaven]

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

It seems that Elon Musk is getting ready to throw in the towel.  Poor guy!

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-twitter-ceo-poll_n_639fb8d4e4b044143048c4e8

Elon Musk Posts Twitter Poll Asking If He Should Step Down As CEO

The billionaire said he would "abide by the results" of the poll.

Let's see if Elon Musk will abide by the results of the poll. Or will he "contest" the results, like the MAGA crowd that he is quite fond of? The problem is, he can't quite accuse his own company of being the source of fake votes, right?

[Steve5380]

15 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

Let's see if Elon Musk will abide by the results of the poll. Or will he "contest" the results, like the MAGA crowd that he is quite fond of? The problem is, he can't quite accuse his own company of being the source of fake votes, right?

 

Right.  But he may be just stepping down of the position of CEO,  without giving up power.  After all,  a new CEO will be appointed by him, so he will have to do what Musk wants him to do.

[Guest Guest]

18 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

Let's see if Elon Musk will abide by the results of the poll. Or will he "contest" the results, like the MAGA crowd that he is quite fond of? The problem is, he can't quite accuse his own company of being the source of fake votes, right?

 

For those who thinks that Twitter is going to be a much better place without Elon Musk, wait till you see who might just turn out to be the next top person in charge when Elon Musk happily sells the entire company to the Russians or the Chinese  who will be more than willing and more than enough capacity to buy the entire company off Elon Musk's hands, making him an even bigger billionaire than he ever was before!

 

Don't forget Elon Musk is a BUSINESSMAN at heart! Count your blessing that he is still at the helm right now weeding out those useless bums at Twitter himself! Or perhaps you would rather have Putin or XJP  or their likes to do that for him? Some people will never recognize heaven until they see hell. 

 

Hahahahaha! So yeah, let's see who has the last laugh then! Elon Musk or all of you sour grapes? 

 

 

[singalion]

11 hours ago, 7heaven said:

 

LOL. 
 

But if more says Biden should step down, there will be claims of Russian hackers interfering with the polls. 

 

Not really, your best friend Kamala Harris will take over...the US presidency.

 

And regarding Russian hackers, it would depend whether Trump  will be able to meet any Russian envoys in jail in 2024 to collude once again with Russians ... 😂

 

 

[singalion]

11 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Let's see if Elon Musk will abide by the results of the poll. Or will he "contest" the results, like the MAGA crowd that he is quite fond of? The problem is, he can't quite accuse his own company of being the source of fake votes, right?

 

The trap he set for himself... haha

[singalion]

Here comes the next joke:

 

 

Elon Musk breaks silence after 10 million Twitter users vote for him to step down

The billionaire says only paid Twitter Blue subscribers will be able to vote in future policy-related polls on the platform

 

Tue 20 Dec 2022

 

 

His silence was finally broken when he responded with “Interesting” to multiple suggestions that the results of the poll were skewed by fake accounts.

(how about his other polls?)

 

Replying to another user’s suggestion that “Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls”, Musk said: “Good point. Twitter will make that change.”

 

Twitter Blue is a paid-for subscription that allows anyone to buy a blue tick verified badge for their account.

 

As the majority owner of the privately held company, no one can force Musk out, but a series of baffling decisions over the past few days has caused even some of his closest backers to break ties with him.

 

 

Musk sounds more and more like a small Trump...

IF I don't like the results, then I just say it was fraud...

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by singalion

[sgmaven]

6 hours ago, singalion said:

Musk sounds more and more like a small Trump...

IF I don't like the results, then I just say it was fraud...

Didn't we already expect this?

[Guest Guest]

8 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Musk sounds more and more like a small Trump...

IF I don't like the results, then I just say it was fraud..

 

2 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Didn't we already expect this?

 

Yes, we also already expect this:

When more voter verifications are expected, there will be people who get frightened of the real voting outcome.  

[sgmaven]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

Yes, we also already expect this:

When more voter verifications are expected, there will be people who get frightened of the real voting outcome.  

Well, I certainly think that "restricting" any votes to Twitter Blue members is like making Twitter a Pay-to-Play type of application? If so, it will no longer be the "finger on the pulse" for anything happening in the world today, but rather just the reactions of people who have vested interest in voicing their POV. I wonder how many users will continue to tweet, if they realise that they will have to fork out money every month, to be part of this "select" community?

 

Note, I am not saying that the pay-to-play model is entirely wrong, but that it runs against what the majority of Internet users are used to (the Internet juggernauts have made services free, so that they can sell user data). Musk's new strategy seems to be wanting to milk both ends, so I wonder if users will agree with it?

[Steve5380]

22 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

 

 

I wonder which of the three guys is you.   It's the fat  bald guy on the left, right?

[Steve5380]

5 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Didn't we already expect this?

 

I didn't expect this.   I used to have some respect for Musk.  But I can admit that I was wrong.

[sgmaven]

48 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I didn't expect this.   I used to have some respect for Musk.  But I can admit that I was wrong.

I, too, used to have lots of respect for Elon Musk, having literally transformed the EV industry. However, whatever respect was lost, when he asked his Twitter followers to vote Republican, for the only reason that the Democrats would otherwise wield "too much power". No mention about candidate quality at all, and the GOP fielded some really appalling candidates!

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, sgmaven said:

I, too, used to have lots of respect for Elon Musk, having literally transformed the EV industry. However, whatever respect was lost, when he asked his Twitter followers to vote Republican, for the only reason that the Democrats would otherwise wield "too much power". No mention about candidate quality at all, and the GOP fielded some really appalling candidates!

 

Incredible absurdity by this individual Musk.   Doesn't he have too much power at twitter and his other enterprises?    Isn't this a "do what I say, not what I do"?   And "too much power"  is questionable.  In the US,  a particular party has power or it does not.   If it only has partial power,  then nothing gets done,  which is the possibility now that the republicans will control the house, blocking the power the democrats have in the senate and presidency to pass legislation.

[Guest Guest]

 

8 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Well, I certainly think that "restricting" any votes to Twitter Blue members is like making Twitter a Pay-to-Play type of application? If so, it will no longer be the "finger on the pulse" for anything happening in the world today, but rather just the reactions of people who have vested interest in voicing their POV. I wonder how many users will continue to tweet, if they realise that they will have to fork out money every month, to be part of this "select" community?

 

Note, I am not saying that the pay-to-play model is entirely wrong, but that it runs against what the majority of Internet users are used to (the Internet juggernauts have made services free, so that they can sell user data). Musk's new strategy seems to be wanting to milk both ends, so I wonder if users will agree with it?

 

 

Is this another one of your diversion and digression again? Why are you talking about his business model that he is attempting to "milk" out of Twitter now? Youtube owned by Google is also going for the voluntary subscription mode now, but yet I do not see you complaining about it, did I? 

 

The question here which you are avoiding still remains: Do you agree to the one-entity-one-vote system, which is the reason behind why he is restricting the voting to only Blue subscribers? If you are, then why are you complaining?

 

5 hours ago, sgmaven said:

I, too, used to have lots of respect for Elon Musk, having literally transformed the EV industry. However, whatever respect was lost, when he asked his Twitter followers to vote Republican, for the only reason that the Democrats would otherwise wield "too much power". No mention about candidate quality at all, and the GOP fielded some really appalling candidates!

 

I, too, used to have lots of respect for Democrats, having literally transformed the USA. However, whatever respect was lost, when the Democrats put up a Senile Old Man for Presidency, for the only reason that there are no other better Democrats! No mention about candidate quality at all, and the DEM fielded one really horrifying candidate! 

[Guest Guest]

4 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Incredible absurdity by this individual Musk.   Doesn't he have too much power at twitter and his other enterprises?    Isn't this a "do what I say, not what I do"?   And "too much power"  is questionable.  In the US,  a particular party has power or it does not.   If it only has partial power,  then nothing gets done,  which is the possibility now that the republicans will control the house, blocking the power the democrats have in the senate and presidency to pass legislation.

 

Yes, when the DEMs had power over the government, a lot of things sure got done, eg rising inflation, increased number of illegal immigration, Russia-Ukraine war, increased COVID deaths, increased gun violence... Yes, a lot of things sure got done! WELL DONE, DEMOCRATS! WELL DONE! 

 

 

[singalion]

17 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Well, I certainly think that "restricting" any votes to Twitter Blue members is like making Twitter a Pay-to-Play type of application? If so, it will no longer be the "finger on the pulse" for anything happening in the world today, but rather just the reactions of people who have vested interest in voicing their POV. I wonder how many users will continue to tweet, if they realise that they will have to fork out money every month, to be part of this "select" community?

 

Note, I am not saying that the pay-to-play model is entirely wrong, but that it runs against what the majority of Internet users are used to (the Internet juggernauts have made services free, so that they can sell user data). Musk's new strategy seems to be wanting to milk both ends, so I wonder if users will agree with it?

 

Isn't it just a cheap tool for Musk to recover some money after he paid that hefty purchase price...

[singalion]

 

Elon Musk’s Twitter Problems Are Multiplying

21 December 2022 at 06:33 GMT+8

 

Elon Musk’s Twitter-related headaches multiplied Tuesday, with the US Federal Trade Commission widening an investigation into the company’s handling of user data and police in Southern California seeking information about an alleged vehicle assault that might involve a member of his security detail.

 

On top of those legal developments, the billionaire executive is also engaged in a potentially protracted search for a new chief executive officer for the social network, a position he has said no one really wants. Musk also found time to spar publicly with an investor in Tesla Inc., the electric car company he runs, who has chided Musk over his involvement with Twitter.

 

 

FTC investigation

Whatever the outcome of that search, Musk will need to contend with escalating concerns on the part of the FTC. The federal agency is deepening an investigation into Twitter’s privacy and data security practices in the wake of Musk’s takeover.

FTC lawyers questioned two former senior executives in the past month about whether Twitter has been able to comply with the agency’s 2011 consent order since Musk took over, said three people familiar with the matter, who asked not to be named discussing a confidential investigation. Musk’s Oct. 27 acquisition led to an exodus of many of the social media company’s legal, privacy and compliance executives, prompting the wider investigation.

 

Roughly 5,000 of Twitter’s 7,500 employees have left the company since Musk assumed control, including the general counsel and chief privacy officer.

 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-20/musk-s-twitter-woes-widen-amid-ftc-scrutiny-and-local-police-questions?leadSource=uverify wall

 

=> It is not half of employees that were sacked by Musk but 2/3!

 

 

[singalion]

Best job ad of the last 20 years!

 

To frame the job as a candidate "foolish enough" to apply for the job...

 

Guess, Musk doesn't actually intend to give up the job...

 

Elon Musk says he’ll step down as Twitter CEO after finding a replacement ‘foolish enough’

ST, 21 November 2022

 

NEW YORK - Billionaire Elon Musk said on Tuesday he will step down as chief executive of Twitter once he finds a replacement, but will still run some key divisions of the social media platform.

“I will resign as CEO as soon as I find someone foolish enough to take the job! After that, I will just run the software & servers teams,” Mr Musk wrote on Twitter.

 

His US$44 billion (S$59 billion) takeover of Twitter in October has been marked by chaos and controversy, with some investors questioning if he is too distracted to also properly run his electric vehicle (EV) outfit Tesla, in which he is personally involved in production and engineering.

 

Wall Street calls for Mr Musk to step down had been growing for weeks and recently, even Tesla bulls have questioned his focus on the social media platform and how it might distract him from running the EV maker.

 

[sgmaven]

On 12/21/2022 at 5:15 PM, singalion said:

Best job ad of the last 20 years!

 

To frame the job as a candidate "foolish enough" to apply for the job...

 

Guess, Musk doesn't actually intend to give up the job...

 

Elon Musk says he’ll step down as Twitter CEO after finding a replacement ‘foolish enough’

ST, 21 November 2022

 

NEW YORK - Billionaire Elon Musk said on Tuesday he will step down as chief executive of Twitter once he finds a replacement, but will still run some key divisions of the social media platform.

“I will resign as CEO as soon as I find someone foolish enough to take the job! After that, I will just run the software & servers teams,” Mr Musk wrote on Twitter.

 

His US$44 billion (S$59 billion) takeover of Twitter in October has been marked by chaos and controversy, with some investors questioning if he is too distracted to also properly run his electric vehicle (EV) outfit Tesla, in which he is personally involved in production and engineering.

 

Wall Street calls for Mr Musk to step down had been growing for weeks and recently, even Tesla bulls have questioned his focus on the social media platform and how it might distract him from running the EV maker.

 

Now, I wonder whether Elon Musk is calling any replacement for CEO of Twitter as "foolish enough", so as to self-sabotage the appointment, thereby deterring any potential candidates from applying for the post? Then, like some people known more locally, they can claim that they have "searched high and low" for a replacement, and not found one, and therefore am "forced" to continue as CEO...

[singalion]

Twitter sued by landlord for allegedly failing to pay rent

By Brian Fung, CNN

 

 — 

A commercial landlord is suing Twitter for breach of contract after the company allegedly failed to pay rent for one of its offices in San Francisco.

The lawsuit concerns Twitter’s office space at 650 California Street, not its main headquarters on Market Street. But it comes after media reports last month said Twitter’s new owner, Elon Musk, had stopped paying rent on Twitter’s office space globally — including for its headquarters...

[auscent]

He brought changes, however well intentioned, too drastically.