Tan Chuan-Jin and Cheng Li Hui Affair Discussion (compiled)

[Guest OMG]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/tan-chuan-jin-mp-cheng-li-hui-resign-parliament-speaker-pap-pmo-3633646?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR0eedncfwSxWNFJSzHm2_G-D3G0lUriMVtmMs2Q9VHaWMV9BVM0Iz7wuO4

 

https://mothership.sg/2023/07/tan-chuan-jin-resign-cheng-li-hui/?utm_source=tele&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=MS&fbclid=IwAR3eVZPFLHcQqaXyrZcxw_2DGgZlegC120PEFV9I3Gg92ldg2R-sue7VgXo

 

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20230717-1414649?fbclid=IwAR0HpTXVdknHMcIaKRDK_-eC04IqkmBv7Vq3n0128DiF5HLtF5G3B_sim3s

 

[lonelyglobe]

A lot of negative news for PAP,  hopefully that will affect their performnace in the next election. 

[Guest Haha]

Quite ironic that gays here advocate for sleeping with married man.... Look at that married man thread..... 

 

But condemn other people... 

Gays are so hypocrite. We stick our cock up the forbidden hole but other people's cock enter the correct hole, we make such a big deal. 

 

LOL. 

[Guest Liahshwa]

1 minute ago, lonelyglobe said:

A lot of negative news for PAP,  hopefully that will affect their performnace in the next election. 

 

Wah you want to sabo our whole country ah. I rather have a clean standard with the dirt being swiped away (because it shows that the system works) rather than a corrupted clueless fucking populist opposition. 

[Guest CNBC]

 https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/17/two-singapore-lawmakers-resign-after-admitting-to-inappropriate-relationship.html

 

taken down so fast L

 

https://fathers.com.sg/conversation-with-our-patron-speaker-of-parliament-mr-tan-chuan-jin/

[Guest ｃａｎｎｏｔ ｆｏｃｕｓ ａｔ ｗｏｒｋ]

No wonder say...Fxxk.... at work

[Guest Guest]

4 hours ago, Guest Haha said:

Quite ironic that gays here advocate for sleeping with married man.... Look at that married man thread..... 

 

But condemn other people... 

Gays are so hypocrite. We stick our cock up the forbidden hole but other people's cock enter the correct hole, we make such a big deal. 

 

LOL. 

 

Oh! You want to talk about hypocrisy? Who started the condemnation of WP ex-MP Yaw Shin Long first? Then now, they themselves kenna the Michael Palmer, David Ong and now Tan Chuan Jin cases. 

 

And you wanna talk more about hypocrisy? The very Minister who was pushing for the Constitutional ban of gay marriages under the false pretense of protecting family values, has his own married MP in his ward committing "inappropriate" affairs with Tan Chuan Jin himself. So much for protecting family values, man! 

 

So who is hypocrite now? 

 

LOL. 

[Guest wikipedia so uptodate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheng_Li_Hui

 

Resignation[edit]

On 17 July 2023, Cheng resigned from the People's Action Party (PAP) and Parliament along with Speaker Tan Chuan-Jin due to "propriety and personal conduct."^[6] Prime Minister and PAP's Secretary-General Lee Hsien Loong confirmed that they were having an affair since at least 2020.^[7] In a statement, Lee responded to their resignation letters that their resignations were "necessary" to "to maintain the high standards of propriety and personal conduct which the PAP has upheld all these years."^[8][9] Their respective parliamentary seats at Tampines GRC and Marine Parade GRC were subsequently left vacant and the workload for Cheng's Tampines East division of Tampines GRC and Tan's Kembangan–Chai Chee division of Marine Parade GRC were distributed among the other MPs in their respective GRCs.

 

Resignation

On 17 July 2023, both Tan and Cheng Li Hui simultaneously resigned from Parliament and as members of the PAP due to "propriety and personal conduct".^[16] Prime Minister and PAP's Secretary-General Lee Hsien Loong confirmed that Tan, who is married, and Cheng were having an extramarital affair, since at least 2020.^[17] In a statement, Lee responded to their resignation letters that their resignations were "necessary" to "to maintain the high standards of propriety and personal conduct which the PAP has upheld all these years."^[18][19] Their respective parliamentary seats at Marine Parade GRC and Tampines GRC were subsequently left vacant, and the workload for Tan's Kembangan–Chai Chee division of Marine Parade GRC and Cheng's Tampines East division of Tampines GRC were distributed among the other MPs in their respective GRCs. Tan also resigned his position as Speaker of the Parliament.^[

[sayfirst]

"According to Lee, between 2020 and 2023, he didn’t know that Tan and Cheng were still at it. But he found out again in February this year, and spoke to Tan about it. That was when Tan offered to resign, and Lee accepted. Get that: he accepted. From what Lee said at the press conference, it sounds as if Tan had relinquished both the role of Speaker and his seat in Parliament, and likely also his membership of the PAP. The moment Lee accepted, Parliament should have been Speaker-less and down one MP. But that didn’t happen. Instead, Tan continued to show up for work as both an MP and Speaker of Parliament—and drawing a very generous salary for it, too—without anyone realising that he’d already resigned… for months."

 

https://www.wethecitizens.net/when-the-real-scandal-isnt-the-affair/?ref=we-the-citizens-newsletter

[singalion]

the bad thing is that the majority party made this big brouhaha about the Raesah thing and tried to implicate the opposition leaders and others , but kept the extramarital affair of the parliament Speaker known since 2020 under the carpet. 

 

Suggests hypocrisy and double standards...

 

The admission of a certain PM that he know about it since 2020 doesn't make it look better.

 

Edited July 18, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Ah Tan]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

the bad thing is that the majority party made this big brouhaha about the Raesah thing and tried to implicate the opposition leaders and others , but kept the extramarital affair of the parliament Speaker known since 2020 under the carpet. 

 

Suggests hypocrisy and double standards...

 

The admission of a certain PM that he know about it since 2020 doesn't make it look better.

 

Totally agree with you! 

[Guest Ah Tan]

Food for thought

 

1) Why Nicole Seah video and scandal mainly circulate in spore social media and mainstream media? 

 

2) Why Tan Chuan Jin and other minster scandal and bad press got reported by a number international media? But in spore it is kind of sweep under the carpet?

 

Strange right? Emmm 🤔

[PlayersGroup]

I really think, From Yaw Shin Leong, Michael Palmer, that Ong, Tan Chuan Jin, Cheng Lihui, Leon n Nicole, this is their private lives. They made a commitment n have to settle it n answer to their families, spouse n children, but it is not for their work or boss to decide.

 

So, in this case, even if WP n PAP has known, I think as long as they have been counselled, that's what it is. For TCJ, Centre For Fathering n MSF would no longer be suitable n it is right that he's no longer in those posts. That's all.

 

We have no business in their marital issues, just as for the longest time we wanted people to respect the privacy of what we want to do in our private lives between consenting adults.

 

Let's not have double standards n accuse politicians of double standards.

 

Edited July 18, 2023 by PlayersGroup

[Guest Lalala]

10 hours ago, sayfirst said:

"According to Lee, between 2020 and 2023, he didn’t know that Tan and Cheng were still at it. But he found out again in February this year, and spoke to Tan about it. That was when Tan offered to resign, and Lee accepted. Get that: he accepted. From what Lee said at the press conference, it sounds as if Tan had relinquished both the role of Speaker and his seat in Parliament, and likely also his membership of the PAP. The moment Lee accepted, Parliament should have been Speaker-less and down one MP. But that didn’t happen. Instead, Tan continued to show up for work as both an MP and Speaker of Parliament—and drawing a very generous salary for it, too—without anyone realising that he’d already resigned… for months."

 

https://www.wethecitizens.net/when-the-real-scandal-isnt-the-affair/?ref=we-the-citizens-newsletter

 

Actually if one want to play politics, should just accuse PM of trying to cover it up on Feb. No chance should have be given when their affair was known. It should be a forced resignation there and then.

 

Its the same as if someone tried corruption and was known and tried to cover up. It's the same as NUS graduate with bright talented future is given a second chance after sex crime.. 

 

TCJ is basically used as a pawn by PAP to show that they are "clean" but there was clearly an attempt to cover the affair. Wasn't there? 

 

This is a chess move. Now WP have to decide to they force their 2 senior members to resign.. Since PAP showed they are so "transparent and pure". 

 

But TCJ was just a pawn. A sexy daddy knightly chest piece. 

[sayfirst]

18 minutes ago, Guest Lalala said:

 

Actually if one want to play politics, should just accuse PM of trying to cover it up on Feb. No chance should have be given when their affair was known. It should be a forced resignation there and then.

 

Its the same as if someone tried corruption and was known and tried to cover up. It's the same as NUS graduate with bright talented future is given a second chance after sex crime.. 

 

TCJ is basically used as a pawn by PAP to show that they are "clean" but there was clearly an attempt to cover the affair. Wasn't there? 

 

This is a chess move. Now WP have to decide to they force their 2 senior members to resign.. Since PAP showed they are so "transparent and pure". 

 

But TCJ was just a pawn. A sexy daddy knightly chest piece. 

Agree with you

[mith]

On 7/17/2023 at 4:17 PM, Guest Haha said:

Quite ironic that gays here advocate for sleeping with married man.... Look at that married man thread..... 

 

But condemn other people... 

Gays are so hypocrite. We stick our cock up the forbidden hole but other people's cock enter the correct hole, we make such a big deal. 

 

LOL. 

 

U HAD IT BACKWARD!

 

these politicians are the ones advocating for pro-family, traditional family values... shutting down same sex marriages. all the while going around fucking everybody else but their spouses! that's hypocrisy at its max!

[Guest Guest]

Will TCJ join the opposition party?

[Guest 377A]

  

 

[Guest ffffffff]

I was wondering who leaked the hot mic contents?

[Guest Roy Tan]

Even though Tan Chuan Jin has often spoken about the importance of the traditional family during Christian-based events organised by Focus on the Family and others, he never said that repealing Section 377A would lead to the breakdown of traditional family values and he did not speak up to recommend amending the Constitution to protect the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.

 

https://the-singapore-lgbt-encyclopaedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tan_Chuan_Jin's_views_on_homosexuality

 

Tan Chuan-Jin was a member of the People's Action Party (PAP). He served in the Cabinet from May 2014 as the Minister for Manpower (May 2014 – May 2015) and as the Minister for Social and Family Development from May 2015. He was a Member of Parliament (MP) representing the Marine Parade Group Representation Constituency from May 2011 to July 2023. He is a staunch Christian who regularly speaks and writes for Christian-based organisations like Focus on the Family, Salt & Light and the Bible Society of Singapore emphasising the importance of the traditional family[1].

Tan has expressed his views regarding LGBT Singaporeans on several occasions.

 

Response to lesbian Singaporean's letter

On Monday, 5 August 2013, in response a letter by public relations consultant Wang Su Lin, a 40-year old lesbian who wrote on Yahoo! News that she was not ashamed of being gay but ashamed of being a Singaporean and that was why she had emigrated to Canada which she felt was more welcoming and tolerant[2], Tan said he wished her well but hoped she would also find it in herself "to contribute and help build Singapore"[3].

The Acting Minister for Manpower and Senior Minister of State for National Development, who praised volunteers and public servants working to improve the lives of Singaporeans, was speaking at the Manpower Ministry's National Day Observance ceremony.

Comments in relation to "pro-rape advocate" Daryush Valizadeh

Self-proclaimed 36-year old American pick-up artist and "pro-rape advocate" Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, intended to hold a meetup in Singapore at Fort Canning Park on Saturday, 6 February 2016 for “like-minded men in their cities”, one of 165 planned destinations in 43 countries around the world happening on the same day. He announced this on a controversial blog called Return Of Kings that held contentious views which elevated "heterosexual and masculine" men by demeaning women. The event was finally cancelled as he could "no longer guarantee the safety or privacy of the men" who intended to attend following widespread international condemnation. Valizadeh had said in a blog post that the solution for rape charges against men would be to "make rape legal if done on private property". He argued that if a woman allowed herself into a man's house, it means she had consented to sex. He later claimed that the post was meant to be satirical[4],[5].

In response to the incident, Tan posted the following status update on his Facebook[6]:

"A number of you have raised the issue of this character Daryush Valizadeh and what he plans to stage in Singapore. Never heard of the guy but having read up on him, I think we'd just have to stand up to misogynists like him and others who will come in various forms. He is the more obvious kind and it's easy for us to respond with disgust. But less obvious would be those that also disrespect and violate women in more subtle ways...and they exist amongst us. Just as there are those who mistreat the elderly. Abuse the young. Discriminate and ridicule those with different sexual orientation. Or even as I posted earlier, give nursing moms a hard time.

We should not just say no, but to affirm our own values by making a stand when we encounter bigotry, and to actively inculcate them in our children."

[Guest FxxxxKing TCJ]

17 minutes ago, Guest Roy Tan said:

Even though Tan Chuan Jin has often spoken about the importance of the traditional family during Christian-based events organised by Focus on the Family and others, he never said that repealing Section 377A would lead to the breakdown of traditional family values and he did not speak up to recommend amending the Constitution to protect the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.

 

 

 

mistress and 小三 is not considered breakdown of family values...it is ECA

[singalion]

13 hours ago, PlayersGroup said:

I really think, From Yaw Shin Leong, Michael Palmer, that Ong, Tan Chuan Jin, Cheng Lihui, Leon n Nicole, this is their private lives. They made a commitment n have to settle it n answer to their families, spouse n children, but it is not for their work or boss to decide.

 

So, in this case, even if WP n PAP has known, I think as long as they have been counselled, that's what it is. For TCJ, Centre For Fathering n MSF would no longer be suitable n it is right that he's no longer in those posts. That's all.

 

We have no business in their marital issues, just as for the longest time we wanted people to respect the privacy of what we want to do in our private lives between consenting adults.

 

Let's not have double standards n accuse politicians of double standards.

 

 

Sorry, but wasn't it the majority party itself that brought up these strict rules and in the past bashed opposition party members when some adultery came to the news (on times even just alleged adultery)?

 

I remember that they always wear these white shirts and pants to show how clean the members of the majority party are.

 

If you put up these high standards and attack others for not having these standards, then those high standards must by all means apply to this majority party in the first place, otherwise just set such standards aside and don't use them in attacking the opposition party members. 

 

This about double standards.

 

In my personal view I find all this hanky panky stories a bit of the past. We do not live in the 18th century any longer. Most intelligent people are aware that such flings may happen.

 

However, don't place one party on such a high standard, when you are unable to comply with these standards. And don't apply different rules on different parties.

 

Simple as this.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by singalion

[singalion]

14 hours ago, Guest Ah Tan said:

Food for thought

 

1) Why Nicole Seah video and scandal mainly circulate in spore social media and mainstream media? 

 

2) Why Tan Chuan Jin and other minster scandal and bad press got reported by a number international media? But in spore it is kind of sweep under the carpet?

 

Strange right? Emmm 🤔

 

Looks like the parliament in Singapore will be empty soon...if they all resign...  🤣

 

Call it the big sweep...

 

 

[Guest Guest]

10 hours ago, Guest Roy Tan said:

Even though Tan Chuan Jin has often spoken about the importance of the traditional family during Christian-based events organised by Focus on the Family and others, he never said that repealing Section 377A would lead to the breakdown of traditional family values and he did not speak up to recommend amending the Constitution to protect the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.

 

Still, he also did not speak against amending the Constitution to protect the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman.. And neither did he support the repealing Section 377A  too. 

 

Why? Because he sacrificed his privileges to speak for the citizens, when he accepted the position that of a Speaker. 

[sayfirst]

https://www.wethecitizens.net/these-resignations-arent-like-those-resignations/?ref=we-the-citizens-newsletter
 

Another good read that helps to put things in context

[singalion]

On 7/18/2023 at 11:31 PM, singalion said:

Raesah thing

 

Oh let's refresh on that old story once again....

 

ST 21 July 2023

 

SINGAPORE - Assertions made on social media that a Committee of Privileges was convened to look into Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh’s alleged non-disclosure of Raeesah Khan’s lies are based on a false premise.

 

 

[Guest Cock got go in or not]

Million dollar question is did his hard cock penetrate the vaginal wall or not. 

[singalion]

PM Lee to nominate Seah Kian Peng as next Speaker of Parliament

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong intends to nominate Mr Seah Kian Peng as the next Speaker of Parliament, said the Prime Minister’s Office in a statement on Friday.

 

 

 

Interesting departure from usual parliamentary customs....

 

Why does the PM nominate the speaker?

 

usually it fall under the separation of powers (parliament - government)....

 

There seems a deviation from the English parliamentary system

 

England:

Speaker of the House of Commons (United Kingdom)

MPs elect the speaker from amongst their own ranks. The House must elect a Speaker at the beginning of each new parliamentary term after a general election, or after the death or resignation of the incumbent.

 

 

Only in certain countries Parliament /  House Speakes are nominated by the Prime Minister or Parliament...

 

[Guest SOUR GRAPE]

On 7/17/2023 at 4:17 PM, Guest Haha said:

Quite ironic that gays here advocate for sleeping with married man.... Look at that married man thread..... 

 

But condemn other people... 

Gays are so hypocrite. We stick our cock up the forbidden hole but other people's cock enter the correct hole, we make such a big deal. 

 

LOL. 

HAHAHAHA...you are so correct!

[Sweetie Pie]

On 7/19/2023 at 7:03 AM, Guest Ah Tan said:

2) Why Tan Chuan Jin and other minster scandal and bad press got reported by a number international media?

Simply because these two, who are Singapore's representatives when travelling aborad, have met a number of overseas diplomats, taken pictures with them, and, to a certain extent, signed agreements. Naturally, their abrupt department will attract a couple of international news, make worse by Prime Minister public statements on these pair of Adam and Eve. 

[Guest Guest]

https://theindependent.sg/did-tan-chuan-jin-cheng-li-huis-affair-start-as-early-as-2018-netizens-dig-up-old-photo-from-baey-yam-kengs-fb/

 

Did Tan Chuan-Jin & Cheng Li Hui’s affair start as early as 2018? Netizens dig up old photo from Baey Yam Keng’s FB

 

Going as far back as 2018 into Mr Baey's Facebook page, netizens dug up an old photo of running buddies Baey, Grace Fu, Tan Chuan-Jin and Cheng Li Hui. Mr Baey and Ms Fu were in the foreground of the photo and did not appear to stand as close together as Ms Tan and Ms Cheng, who were in the background.

[Guest ffffffff]

23 hours ago, singalion said:

PM Lee to nominate Seah Kian Peng as next Speaker of Parliament

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong intends to nominate Mr Seah Kian Peng as the next Speaker of Parliament, said the Prime Minister’s Office in a statement on Friday.

 

 

 

Interesting departure from usual parliamentary customs....

 

Why does the PM nominate the speaker?

 

usually it fall under the separation of powers (parliament - government)....

 

There seems a deviation from the English parliamentary system

 

England:

Speaker of the House of Commons (United Kingdom)

MPs elect the speaker from amongst their own ranks. The House must elect a Speaker at the beginning of each new parliamentary term after a general election, or after the death or resignation of the incumbent.

 

 

Only in certain countries Parliament /  House Speakes are nominated by the Prime Minister or Parliament...

 

So you also have your questions eh?

[Guest Guest]

If TCJ had a sexual relationship with a MALE MP (instead of CLH), do you think he will be "more forgivable" to all our national fellow Singaporeans?

 

Will he and the male MP still be sacked in such circumstance? 🤔

[Guest ffffffff]

30 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

If TCJ had a sexual relationship with a MALE MP (instead of CLH), do you think he will be "more forgivable" to all our national fellow Singaporeans?

 

Will he and the male MP still be sacked in such circumstance? 🤔

Don't think PAP is likely to field a homosexual candidate in the polls...given their advertising that their people are morally upright.

 

The only party who did was SDP.

[PlayersGroup]

On 7/21/2023 at 5:02 PM, singalion said:

PM Lee to nominate Seah Kian Peng as next Speaker of Parliament

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong intends to nominate Mr Seah Kian Peng as the next Speaker of Parliament, said the Prime Minister’s Office in a statement on Friday.

 

 

 

Interesting departure from usual parliamentary customs....

 

Why does the PM nominate the speaker?

 

 

Nominate is to propose, not to appoint.

 

MPs still need to elect him or her. That's why Jessica Tan Soon Neo, the deputy Speaker is still Acting Speaker.

[Guest Guest]

On 7/21/2023 at 5:02 PM, singalion said:

PM Lee to nominate Seah Kian Peng as next Speaker of Parliament

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong intends to nominate Mr Seah Kian Peng as the next Speaker of Parliament, said the Prime Minister’s Office in a statement on Friday.

 

 

 

Interesting departure from usual parliamentary customs....

 

Why does the PM nominate the speaker?

 

usually it fall under the separation of powers (parliament - government)....

 

There seems a deviation from the English parliamentary system

 

England:

Speaker of the House of Commons (United Kingdom)

MPs elect the speaker from amongst their own ranks. The House must elect a Speaker at the beginning of each new parliamentary term after a general election, or after the death or resignation of the incumbent.

 

 

Only in certain countries Parliament /  House Speakes are nominated by the Prime Minister or Parliament...

 

 

1 hour ago, PlayersGroup said:

 

Nominate is to propose, not to appoint.

 

MPs still need to elect him or her. That's why Jessica Tan Soon Neo, the deputy Speaker is still Acting Speaker.

 

Are you two really so stupid? You know how many percentage of the MP seats that PAP is holding? As long as the PM who is also the Sec-Gen of PAP had nominated anyone, all his party member will just vote along the party line. And even if they don't want to, he can just you ahead and raise the Whip and his nomination is as good as voting done. 

 

You two need people to S-P-E-L-L it out to you? Stupid......! 

[PlayersGroup]

26 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

Are you two really so stupid? You know how many percentage of the MP seats that PAP is holding? As long as the PM who is also the Sec-Gen of PAP had nominated anyone, all his party member will just vote along the party line. And even if they don't want to, he can just you ahead and raise the Whip and his nomination is as good as voting done. 

 

You two need people to S-P-E-L-L it out to you? Stupid......! 

 

Oh of course, I don't know the most obvious thing and need beg u to waste time explaining. Of course I wasn't talking about procedurally, your brain cells are the most supreme in the universe.

[singalion]

On 7/22/2023 at 5:30 PM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Nominate is to propose, not to appoint.

 

MPs still need to elect him or her. That's why Jessica Tan Soon Neo, the deputy Speaker is still Acting Speaker.

 

But nominate means that the PM has a word to say.

 

Namely, you can't elect any Speaker of the Parliament in Singapore that wasn't nominated by the job from the PM.

 

In no other country any PM or President has this power to reject any nomination or is involved in the process of instituting the speaker of parliament. 

 

What happens if after one election the WP has 49 seats (of 99) and then one PAP MP switches to WP. The then PAP PM can refuse to reject any WP candidate for the Speaker post.

 

Get the issue now?

 

In constitutional law this is a blurring of the powers of legislative and executive. The executive should not interfere into the speaker's role and permit the members of parliament to elect someone out of their midst.

 

[singalion]

On 7/22/2023 at 4:48 PM, Guest Guest said:

If TCJ had a sexual relationship with a MALE MP (instead of CLH), do you think he will be "more forgivable" to all our national fellow Singaporeans?

 

Will he and the male MP still be sacked in such circumstance? 🤔

 

Doesn't make any difference in terms of moral views as long as the MP/Speaker/Minister is married, whereas the chances of him being married to a guy are quite slim now for Singapore... It is society that creates such views, adultery not being accepted. (Not my view).

 

In other terms: the resignation of the Speaker under the pretext of the extramarital affairs looks better than the resignation due to having violated his neutrality towards all MPs (majority or opposition). Look at the news that a certain party is trying to paint here... they don't focus on the expletive whispering of the Speaker towards an opposition MP but.... on his affair.

 

 

[singalion]

On 7/22/2023 at 7:37 PM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Oh of course, I don't know the most obvious thing and need beg u to waste time explaining. Of course I wasn't talking about procedurally, your brain cells are the most supreme in the universe.

 

What that Guest did not see is that PM may propose someone who is not fit or any past actions and still the majority will not vote the speaker.

I would not rule this out not to happen once.

 

The next parliament might not be happy with LW and oppose his proposal for speaker.

We all don't know what happens.

 

 

[Sweetie Pie]

On 7/22/2023 at 3:18 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

 

TCJ's nipples protruded. Look very senstive.  I believed the woman standing next to him have been squeezing it reguarly behind closed doors until their affairs was being exposed recently.

[aycee]

Isn't that the guy who posted on his Facebook that "Kamila" reversed is "Alamak" followed by a "hee hee?", got blasted and then had the post removed subsequently? He's a shame!

On 7/21/2023 at 5:02 PM, singalion said:

PM Lee to nominate Seah Kian Peng as next Speaker of Parliament

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong intends to nominate Mr Seah Kian Peng as the next Speaker of Parliament, said the Prime Minister’s Office in a statement on Friday.

 

 

[Guest Oops]

This is already old news. Anyone feeling like our lives move so fast. They are already forgotten 

[Sweetie Pie]

9 hours ago, Guest Oops said:

This is already old news. Anyone feeling like our lives move so fast. They are already forgotten 

Now that both are free and probably staying together, and fucking every night with no responsibility to answer to anyone anymore.  That middle-aged woman finally has her dreams come true of sleeping with the chief of army.  What can I say?

 

I AM SO JEALOUS!!!!

[Guest Guest]

11 hours ago, Guest Oops said:

This is already old news. Anyone feeling like our lives move so fast. They are already forgotten 

 

"Forgotten"? The internet NEVER forgets. The issue is just slowly getting etched into our brains for use in the next election, just like the Ridout and the anti-graft cases. 

[Guest Guest]

12 hours ago, Guest Oops said:

This is already old news. Anyone feeling like our lives move so fast. They are already forgotten 

No leh i dun feel that way, there are still people talking about them.

Somemore parliament starts today (2 Aug) and this is one of the topics that might be brought up, the discussion is going to start again. 

[Guest Guest]

3 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Now that both are free and probably staying together, and fucking every night with no responsibility to answer to anyone anymore.  That middle-aged woman finally has her dreams come true of sleeping with the chief of army.  What can I say?

 

I AM SO JEALOUS!!!!

Aiyo old bird with expired sperm.  You jealous for what

[Guest Hu Li JIng]

Any updates abt the HU Li Jing

[Guest Sex is Good]

 

Any updates abt the HU Li Jing

Enjoying privately with her prey.  No more news, use your instint.  The Chief of Amry is probably drained of Yang Qi

[mith]

our local media is mild really... so many angle to dig into the saga further but nobody doing it... or they did but not allow to publish the ongoing...

 

tcj side, how the family life? the wife reaction and action? how's the children coping? 

 

clh side, her dad reaction and action? her friends and social circle activities now? didn't all the female pap MP always pledge the women power n sisterhood. whats their reaction? all keep quiet.

 

best, what tcj and clh doing, in terms of work and career?

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by mith