3 Things I Hate About Guys Who Go To A Gay Sauna

[30yochinese]

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                                                                                              
thx to him & his disgusting behaviour, this is my reflection after going to a Gay SAUNA:
                                                                                                                                              
1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.
                                                                                          
2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                               
Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
                                                                                                                                                       
#HardTruths
@HarshTruths
                                                                                                                      

[Guest Wtf]

12 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                                                                                              
thx to him & his disgusting behaviour, this is my reflection after going to a Gay SAUNA:
                                                                                                                                              
1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.
                                                                                          
2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                               
Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
                                                                                                                                                       
#HardTruths
@HarshTruths
                                                                                                                      

i mean, this all sounds pretty normal for a sauna. It’s not great but that’s how it is. Yes, people could be more respectful but, honestly, if you don’t like it, there are other ways to hookup or meet people.

one point though: you can’t complain about other people having a preference when it comes to dick size. Yes, you can’t help having a small one, so it’s hurtful to be rejected for it. But then you have a clear race preference written on your profile. Isn’t you not giving a chance and rejecting people upfront for their race is exactly the same thing others are doing to you for your dick? 

 

[Guest Guest]

31 minutes ago, Guest Wtf said:

i mean, this all sounds pretty normal for a sauna. It’s not great but that’s how it is. Yes, people could be more respectful but, honestly, if you don’t like it, there are other ways to hookup or meet people.

one point though: you can’t complain about other people having a preference when it comes to dick size. Yes, you can’t help having a small one, so it’s hurtful to be rejected for it. But then you have a clear race preference written on your profile. Isn’t you not giving a chance and rejecting people upfront for their race is exactly the same thing others are doing to you for your dick? 

 

Well said … 👍! Sad but true! 

[Guest Rude Toad]

14 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                                                                                              
thx to him & his disgusting behaviour, this is my reflection after going to a Gay SAUNA:
                                                                                                                                              
1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.
                                                                                          
2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                               
Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
                                                                                                                                                       
#HardTruths
@HarshTruths
                                                                                                                      

You mentioned the old man touched you and you SLAPPED his hand away.  A more well mannered approached would be to GENTLY remove his hand and pat it a few times. The nicer guys do this to reject advances. Now I am assuming the old man wasn't rough or insistent with you.

 

People lack morality. Yes, saunas are dens of immoral indulgence. Look for morality at places of worship.

 

Ill mannered and disrespectful people aren't just confined to saunas. It is a nationwide issue and has been going on for decades. Unfortunately, this is Spore culture.

 

Just being direct with no intention to offend. Peace.

 

 

[D.0284]

um, why go sauna?

[Guest Morales]

15 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                                                                                              
thx to him & his disgusting behaviour, this is my reflection after going to a Gay SAUNA:
                                                                                                                                              
1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.
                                                                                          
2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                               
Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
                                                                                                                                                       
#HardTruths
@HarshTruths
                                                                                                                      

Slapping his filthy hand ... What does that say about manners ? What morales and respect is there that you claim it to be filthy ?

[Guest guest]

15 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                         

 

Can't deny tis is e behaviour of gay men whenever they c a naked man with cock. They juz can't resist .

[Thatguy642]

I’ve only been once out of curiosity so not too experienced, had a decent time but not going anymore.

 

I’m sorry to say honestly it sounds more like a you problem. Saunas are literally a place where people can let loose - a sexual free for all, if you don’t want unwanted advances then it isn’t the place for you, and I suggest not going at all. Get on Grindr or something.

[TehSi]

Old and bald equates filthy, and needs to be slapped?

Those who smile and walk away does not show respect?

Hard to reconcile 

Edited October 28, 2023 by TehSi

[passinthenight]

The old bald headed man had a filthy hand because he touched you.

I bet if a guy who was 'so your type' did the same, I'm tipping judgment would be way different, I'm sure.

[Guest Hahaha]

29 minutes ago, passinthenight said:

The old bald headed man had a filthy hand because he touched you.

I bet if a guy who was 'so your type' did the same, I'm tipping judgment would be way different, I'm sure.

LMAO....Confirm, chop, sign. The nature of gay...

[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, Guest Wtf said:

i mean, this all sounds pretty normal for a sauna. It’s not great but that’s how it is. Yes, people could be more respectful but, honestly, if you don’t like it, there are other ways to hookup or meet people.

one point though: you can’t complain about other people having a preference when it comes to dick size. Yes, you can’t help having a small one, so it’s hurtful to be rejected for it. But then you have a clear race preference written on your profile. Isn’t you not giving a chance and rejecting people upfront for their race is exactly the same thing others are doing to you for your dick? 

 

Maybe TS is looking for some high SES club where only gay bankers, lawyers, doctors, CEOs, professionals etc. interact, mingle and hook-up … 🙄😳

[bluerunner]

So poor thing. 
I wonder how’s the reaction from those who had reacted earlier if his profile pic shows a body of a hot hunk and/or a face of an angel?

[Guest Guest]

20 hours ago, 30yochinese said:

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                                                                                              
thx to him & his disgusting behaviour, this is my reflection after going to a Gay SAUNA:
                                                                                                                                              
1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.
                                                                                          
2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.
                                                                                                                                               
Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
                                                                                                                                                       
#HardTruths
@HarshTruths
                                                                                                                      

May I know what is the size of a small / short dick (generally) that most guys find it a turn-off?  🙏

 

[30yochinese]

1 hour ago, bluerunner said:

So poor thing. 
I wonder how’s the reaction from those who had reacted earlier if his profile pic shows a body of a hot hunk and/or a face of an angel?

thanks for your comment 😃
i do not have THE FORMER but i do have the LATTER.
                                                                                                  
maybe not the face of an angel but all my friends on Facebook say: "I am cherubic for a 40 year old Guy."
                                                                                                                                                                              

[queerqloset]

8 hours ago, Thatguy642 said:

I’ve only been once out of curiosity so not too experienced, had a decent time but not going anymore.

 

I’m sorry to say honestly it sounds more like a you problem. Saunas are literally a place where people can let loose - a sexual free for all, if you don’t want unwanted advances then it isn’t the place for you, and I suggest not going at all. Get on Grindr or something.

Why don't u wanna go anymore?

[queerqloset]

@30yochinese maybe u suey that day and will have a better experience next time 

[singalion]

11 hours ago, Thatguy642 said:

I’ve only been once out of curiosity so not too experienced, had a decent time but not going anymore.

 

I’m sorry to say honestly it sounds more like a you problem. Saunas are literally a place where people can let loose - a sexual free for all, if you don’t want unwanted advances then it isn’t the place for you, and I suggest not going at all. Get on Grindr or something.

 

Sorry, but I think you got something clearly wrong. 

 

A sauna is not a place where you can just do anything. 

 

Being naked doesn't mean that you put yourself at the exposure to others. 

 

Don't forget there are two to tango. 

 

Don't assume that someone walking around the maze has tacitly agreed into anything. 

 

Respect and general courtesy should also apply in the sauna. 

 

For example instead of directly reaching out to grab the dick, you can always do a lighter touch at the arm, stomach etc and wait for the reaction. 

 

There are ways to approach others more mannered in saunas and dark maze areas...

 

[singalion]

Personally I also dislike those people who instantly grab dicks. And it doesn't stop with just grabbing the dick. 

 

I noted that this behaviour is very common in Singapore and Malaysia. 

 

Visit a sauna in Europe and spot the difference. 

 

Guys who are inhibited in Europe will either be in a sling or a bed or have the cubicle door open, would kneel to signal they intend to suck etc. 

 

Further, I never understood this non communicative culture and behaviour here. 

 

You are with other gays in a sauna, no need to keep silent as if mum is just next room... Open your mouth and talk. 

 

 

[Sweetie Pie]

On 10/27/2023 at 6:53 PM, 30yochinese said:

                                                                                                                         
 i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.

 

On 10/27/2023 at 6:53 PM, 30yochinese said:

most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

but do u have to reject me for my penis size 
                                                                                                                      

Old and bald touch your dick = Disrespectful  because you didn't want him to touch you

Smiling guy touched your dick,  then they walked away = Disrespectful because you allow them to touch you

 

Conclusion:  The old and bald guy is not your type, so he is very rude.  You are not the smiley guys type, so they are very rude. 

 

You detested them all, I summarized your topic for you.

 

 

 

 

[Thatguy642]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Sorry, but I think you got something clearly wrong. 

 

A sauna is not a place where you can just do anything. 

 

Being naked doesn't mean that you put yourself at the exposure to others. 

 

Don't forget there are two to tango. 

 

Don't assume that someone walking around the maze has tacitly agreed into anything. 

 

Respect and general courtesy should also apply in the sauna. 

 

For example instead of directly reaching out to grab the dick, you can always do a lighter touch at the arm, stomach etc and wait for the reaction. 

 

There are ways to approach others more mannered in saunas and dark maze areas...

 

I agree that there is a better way to go about it, but frankly just paying to walk into the sauna you’re making it known that you’re looking for something sexual. 
 

I disagree that my point is ‘clearly’ wrong, sure everyone has standards, but frankly there are better ways to find people you’re into rather than going into what is essentially a sexual free for all. Consent is important but it’s inherently a sexual place, and of course people are going to try. 

[Thatguy642]

5 hours ago, queerqloset said:

Why don't u wanna go anymore?

While I do enjoy the tactile sensations of being groped and felt up by random

people in the dark, I agree with OP’s points that it can be a bit much. It can get quite aggressive, maybe largely due to the anonymity. I’m not 100% appreciative of that aspect and so I choose not to go.

 

plus, not a fan of spending money to get off haha.

[Guest Heinz]

Is it a must to get fucked by strangers in sauna?

[singalion]

12 hours ago, Thatguy642 said:

I agree that there is a better way to go about it, but frankly just paying to walk into the sauna you’re making it known that you’re looking for something sexual. 
 

I disagree that my point is ‘clearly’ wrong, sure everyone has standards, but frankly there are better ways to find people you’re into rather than going into what is essentially a sexual free for all. Consent is important but it’s inherently a sexual place, and of course people are going to try. 

 

The point even at the maze is that sexual things have to be consensual and not imposed or one sided.

 

If you go to a unisex sauna in Europe guys don't grab the tits of ladies also. 

 

It's a matter of manners and courtesy. 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Why oh Why]

On 10/28/2023 at 4:09 PM, 30yochinese said:

thanks for your comment 😃
i do not have THE FORMER but i do have the LATTER.
                                                                                                  
maybe not the face of an angel but all my friends on Facebook say: "I am cherubic for a 40 year old Guy."
                                                                                                                                                                              

 

Why oh why TS, @30yochinese only replied to those are in support of him? 

 

Should TS has the matured, rational, logical and self awareness mindset, he needs to read all other comments and thank them too.  The comments made on this thread are very awakening.  They are for TS to do self reflection on himself.  To point fingers freely and using negative adjectives on others, AND NOT ON HIMSELF, say so much about his personality.

 

Yes, I agree with @bluerunner's comment, "I wonder how’s the reaction from those who had reacted earlier if his profile pic shows a body of a hot hunk and/or a face of an angel?".  However, in all fairness, it is the attitude on the post that reflects upon the individual regardless he has a 'body of a hot hunk and/or a face of an angel.

 

[fetish72]

19 hours ago, singalion said:

Personally I also dislike those people who instantly grab dicks. And it doesn't stop with just grabbing the dick. 

 

I noted that this behaviour is very common in Singapore and Malaysia. 

 

Visit a sauna in Europe and spot the difference. 

 

Guys who are inhibited in Europe will either be in a sling or a bed or have the cubicle door open, would kneel to signal they intend to suck etc. 

 

Further, I never understood this non communicative culture and behaviour here. 

 

You are with other gays in a sauna, no need to keep silent as if mum is just next room... Open your mouth and talk. 

 

 

 I truly agreed with you Caucasian  guy they don't just jump in and grab you even you have fun with someone they join in after they get the signal from you.

[And then]

someone does not appear to appreciate the difference between a (unisex or otherwise) sauna for health/ relaxation purpose, and a gay sex on premises sauna.

[Steve5380]

On 10/27/2023 at 5:53 AM, 30yochinese said:

3 THINGS I HATE ABOUT GUYS WHO GO TO A GAY SAUNA:
                                                                                                                             
thx for reading, this happened to me today, i was at KEYBOX & an old man who was bald put his hand at my groin area & reached out for my dick. he touched it & i slapped his filthy hand away.
                                                                        

 

On 10/28/2023 at 3:09 AM, 30yochinese said:

                                                                                                 
maybe not the face of an angel but all my friends on Facebook say: "I am cherubic for a 40 year old Guy."
                                                                                                                                                                              

 

Believe it or not,  being cherubic and 40 years old  (a 30yochinese? ) does not last forever. At 40, time starts to fly, and before you can remember you may be AN OLD MAN WHO IS BALD.   Will your hands be FILTHY then?   In my experience,  with twice that age my hands are NOT filthy but soft while strong, and agile typing and playing the piano. 

 

If you are a Buddhist,  think about bad Karma and and what it can naturally do to you.  Also think about the Golden Rule "Don't treat others in ways that you would not like to be treated". 

[Steve5380]

On 10/28/2023 at 9:20 AM, singalion said:

 

Sorry, but I think you got something clearly wrong. 

 

A sauna is not a place where you can just do anything. 

 

Being naked doesn't mean that you put yourself at the exposure to others. 

 

Don't forget there are two to tango. 

 

Don't assume that someone walking around the maze has tacitly agreed into anything. 

 

Respect and general courtesy should also apply in the sauna. 

 

For example instead of directly reaching out to grab the dick, you can always do a lighter touch at the arm, stomach etc and wait for the reaction. 

 

There are ways to approach others more mannered in saunas and dark maze areas...

 

 

A gay sauna is a place where you can do things you cannot do elsewhere.

 

Being naked in a gay sauna (outside of the showers) is an exposure to others and may be a provocation, incitement for sex.

 

Assume that someone walking around in the maze is tacitly looking for sex.

 

Assume that anonymously touching someone somewhere in the maze of a gay sauna is not a reason for a strong act of rejection.

 

Consider that approaching someone in visual sight in a gay sauna should be courteous and tentative to maximize success.  

 

[Guest Guest]

For every thread starter, there must be (the usual) two thread destroyers: @singalion and @Steve5380 .

[Steve5380]

9 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

For every thread starter, there must be (the usual) two thread destroyers: @singalion and @Steve5380 .

 

Yes, we usually destroy most of the nonsense posted in a thread, including yours,  and replace it with some common sense ideas, often some good advice.  

[bigboss]

I think TS got attitude problem 

[Sweetie Pie]

1 hour ago, bigboss said:

I think TS got attitude problem 

Instead of the reason he gave, he is the reason why people stop going Sauna.☹️

[Guest Guest]

 

1 hour ago, bigboss said:

I think TS got attitude problem 

 

17 minutes ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Instead of the reason he gave, he is the reason why people stop going Sauna.☹️

 

Oi,  there is nothing wrong in asking for basic courtesy, even in a gay sauna setting. But still, that being said, if TS is looking for people with MORALITY, MANNERS and RESPECT, maybe he will have better luck looking for sex with such people in a church instead.

[Steve5380]

10 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

 

 

Oi,  there is nothing wrong in asking for basic courtesy, even in a gay sauna setting. But still, that being said, if TS is looking for people with MORALITY, MANNERS and RESPECT, maybe he will have better luck looking for sex with such people in a church instead.

 

A church is a place of worship for Christians,  and both the Old Testament and the earlier Christianity rules held gay sex as SIN.   So church goers with plenty of morality, manners and respect would not violate the tenants of their religion and would abstain from the desired sex. 

 

It's still better for people who are eager for gay sex to be a little flexible with MORALITY, MANNERS and RESPECT.  And there are surely attractive customers of gay saunas who have these qualities.   

[Guest Guest]

40 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

A church is a place of worship for Christians,  and both the Old Testament and the earlier Christianity rules held gay sex as SIN.   So church goers with plenty of morality, manners and respect would not violate the tenants of their religion and would abstain from the desired sex. 

 

It's still better for people who are eager for gay sex to be a little flexible with MORALITY, MANNERS and RESPECT.  And there are surely attractive customers of gay saunas who have these qualities.   

I am Christian but I still come to BW. 😜

[Guest Look at me]

4 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Yes, we usually destroy most of the nonsense posted in a thread, including yours,  and replace it with some common sense ideas, often some good advice.  

yep, they love to talk about themselves all over this forum. @Steve5380 tries to make every discussion about age or some ancient gay sauna or intermittent fasting. @singalion tries - and fails - to sound smarter than everybody else; what the fuck has behaviour in an actual sauna room got to do with behaviour in a gay sauna? Everybody knows the difference here. 

[Sweetie Pie]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

A church is a place of worship for Christians,  and both the Old Testament and the earlier Christianity rules held gay sex as SIN.   

Humans are already born sinner, please leave gay sex out of the picture. Theory aside,  I am technically forgiven for ALL MY SINS, by the shed of blood on my behalf, at the cross in calvary.   As such,  I am a proud Gay, free to love all the men I desired with my head held high.  

Edited October 30, 2023 by Sweetie Pie

[singalion]

22 hours ago, And then said:

someone does not appear to appreciate the difference between a (unisex or otherwise) sauna for health/ relaxation purpose, and a gay sex on premises sauna.

 

No worries. I am fully aware that gay saunas are more "raunchy" than normal unisex saunas (who don't have the object of sex encounters).

 

However, I just intended to explain that no male would have the idea or grabbing the sexual organs of any female lady at such place. which translates that it has something to do with manners, restraint and respecting that you require consent from the other person.

 

The point is: patrons visiting gay saunas do not deliberate themselves from any manners and mean to be up for grabs to everyone at the other person's pleasure.

While there might be patrons who don't mind being touched, made to a sexual object at the ease of someone else, it doesn't mean that all patrons have the same intention when visiting such a place.

 

I don't think the vast majority of guys visiting a gay sauna want to be touched, grabbed or being a party of any sexual activity by anyone without their permission.

 

Even in a gay sauna you need the consent from the other party to engage in sexual activity.

 

Probably some here did not understand this relevant point.

 

And the requirement here is a certain level of restraint, and either by signalling, or talking to show the other party that they consent or not.

 

 

Edited October 30, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Drilla]

11 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

No worries. I am fully aware that gay saunas are more "raunchy" than normal unisex saunas (who don't have the object of sex encounters).

 

However, I just intended to explain that no male would have the idea or grabbing the sexual organs of any female lady at such place. which translates that it has something to do with manners, restraint and respecting that you require consent from the other person.

 

The point is: patrons visiting gay saunas do not deliberate themselves from any manners and mean to be up for grabs to everyone at the other person's pleasure.

While there might be patrons who don't mind being touched, made to a sexual object at the ease of someone else, it doesn't mean that all patrons have the same intention when visiting such a place.

 

I don't think the vast majority of guys visiting a gay sauna want to be touched, grabbed or being a party of any sexual activity by anyone at without their permission.

 

Even in a gay sauna you need the consent from the other party to engage in sexual activity.

 

Probably some here did not understand this relevant point.

 

And the requirement here is a certain level of restraint, and either by signalling, or talking to show the other party that they consent or not.

 

 

Wah, hear hear. Words of wisdom from da wise one.

[Guest Look at me]

30 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

No worries. I am fully aware that gay saunas are more "raunchy" than normal unisex saunas (who don't have the object of sex encounters).

 

However, I just intended to explain that no male would have the idea or grabbing the sexual organs of any female lady at such place. which translates that it has something to do with manners, restraint and respecting that you require consent from the other person.

 

The point is: patrons visiting gay saunas do not deliberate themselves from any manners and mean to be up for grabs to everyone at the other person's pleasure.

While there might be patrons who don't mind being touched, made to a sexual object at the ease of someone else, it doesn't mean that all patrons have the same intention when visiting such a place.

 

I don't think the vast majority of guys visiting a gay sauna want to be touched, grabbed or being a party of any sexual activity by anyone without their permission.

 

Even in a gay sauna you need the consent from the other party to engage in sexual activity.

 

Probably some here did not understand this relevant point.

 

And the requirement here is a certain level of restraint, and either by signalling, or talking to show the other party that they consent or not.

 

 

if you have to write three times as much to explain a point that was anyway meaningless, you might conclude that it didn’t need making in the first place.

 

or just keep digging. Your choice. 

[Steve5380]

8 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

I am Christian but I still come to BW. 😜

 

I am also a Christian, a Catholic,  and I have no concern about the morality rules in the religion I was born into.  But then...  I never go to church anymore.  I am not a WORSHIPER of the religion, which is what I specified in my post.  But... but... maybe you go to church every Sunday.  Good for you!  This is what you definitely need, to confess all the lies you post here in this forum.   

[30yochinese]

19 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

 

Believe it or not,  being cherubic and 40 years old  (a 30yochinese? ) does not last forever. At 40, time starts to fly, and before you can remember you may be AN OLD MAN WHO IS BALD.   Will your hands be FILTHY then?   In my experience,  with twice that age my hands are NOT filthy but soft while strong, and agile typing and playing the piano. 

 

If you are a Buddhist,  think about bad Karma and and what it can naturally do to you.  Also think about the Golden Rule "Don't treat others in ways that you would not like to be treated". 

haha, thanks for your advice but Chuan-Do is my distant relative so considering the genes that Chuan.Do has & the D.N.A. on my Father's side has anti-ageing-properties i am sure i will age slower than U lah😝😛

[Steve5380]

7 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Humans are already born sinner, please leave gay sex out of the picture. Theory aside,  I am technically forgiven for ALL MY SINS, by the shed of blood on my behalf, at the cross in calvary.   As such,  I am a proud Gay, free to love all the men I desired with my head held high.  

 

So you are member of one of these Protestant churches that believe that "the blood of Christ shed on the cross" has wiped away all the sins of humanity.   These churches must have hired some biochemists who found that human blood,  in addition to carrying oxygen to the cells of the body,  also has a SIN-DETERGENT property!   

 

But this also ignores the principle of cause-and-effect.  How can Christ's blood have wiped away the sins of people who didn't exist in his days, who only appeared 2000 years later?

[Steve5380]

5 minutes ago, 30yochinese said:

haha, thanks for your advice but Chuan-Do is my distant relative so considering the genes that Chuan.Do has & the D.N.A. on my Father's side has anti-ageing-properties i am sure i will age slower than U lah😝😛

 

Good for you!  Hopefully you will live as long as Methuselah.  But in the concept of many gays, especially young cute Asian ones,  at 40 y.o. you are definitely in the category of UNCLE,  an undesired species that has filthy hands.   You have not specified that you qualify for HANDSOME,  so you may be a run-of-the-mill unattractive 40 y.o. uncle that in a few decades will be bald and bent over and wrinkled and with filthy hands but will live longer than 900 years like Methuselah thanks to your excellent genes. 

[Sweetie Pie]

39 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

So you are member of one of these Protestant churches that believe that "the blood of Christ shed on the cross" has wiped away all the sins of humanity.   These churches must have hired some biochemists who found that human blood,  in addition to carrying oxygen to the cells of the body,  also has a SIN-DETERGENT property!  

 

I can see that you have not been saved and still regard gay sex as sinful.  Pity

[Guest hmm]

42 minutes ago, Sweetie Pie said:

I can see that you have not been saved and still regard gay sex as sinful.  Pity

I don't know what brand of Christianity you practice, but do go and read the gospels carefully again. While Jesus has paid the price for all sins past, present and future, He came to do His father's will. If you truly love Jesus, remember also that while he loved the tax collector, the woman at the well with 5 husbands, etc. he did tell them to go and sin no more. 

So you believe that gay sex is not sinful. How about adultery? If you sleep with someone else who is not your husband, is that sin?

 

I am in no position to judge of course, lurking in BW! 

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, Guest hmm said:

I don't know what brand of Christianity you practice, but do go and read the gospels carefully again. While Jesus has paid the price for all sins past, present and future, He came to do His father's will. If you truly love Jesus, remember also that while he loved the tax collector, the woman at the well with 5 husbands, etc. he did tell them to go and sin no more. 

So you believe that gay sex is not sinful. How about adultery? If you sleep with someone else who is not your husband, is that sin?

 

I am in no position to judge of course, lurking in BW! 

 

You have the right to judge, of course.  But before judging, try this reflections on what you are judging here:

 

- Christians generally condemn as sinful ALL sex that is not done for procreation, that is, straight sex with contraceptives and gay sex. But a little reflection will tell you that this artificial restriction is EVEIL because it leads to overpopulation.   Then what would remain is:  is "ALL sex is sinful, evil".  Would you go for this??

 

- Fidelity and adultery are meaningless words.  They only exist if there is DECEPTION.  And any sin should apply to the deception, not to any sex. Take the case of an open relationships:  fidelity, infidelity, adultery don't exist!   Imagine a strange society where the husband should only eat what the wife cooks, but if he eats in a restaurant or with friends, this is infidelity, adultery...   Isn't this idiotic?  

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

I can see that you have not been saved and still regard gay sex as sinful.  Pity

 

I have not been saved?  But...  I feel quite safe and content!  SAVE me the trouble. 

[doncoin]

To be clear, a sauna is the closest space in Singapore where gay men can behave or misbehave without being judged. It is a safe space where everyone can be themselves, free to explore their sexuality and pursue their pleasures. Outside of that space, it is a world where a gay person is expected to conform to societal norms. 

 

Not every gay man growing up in Singapore has the privilege to be who they are and those who are older, do not have that safe space to be who they are or explore their sexuality when they are younger. It is not surprising, that many of these men, conform to the demands of society, get married, have children, and do what is expected of them. When the sauna scene came, they became spaces where these men could be free to explore their sexuality. The sauna is this place of escape for an hour or two or three. 

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1st thing, PEOPLE LACK MORALITY. 

anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator.

 

The sauna is a place for adults. As mentioned before, it is a place where gay/bi men in Singapore, can be free to explore their sexuality. Morals have nothing to do with it. You are right that "anything goes" and there is consent between adults for that to happen. Furthermore, you are an adult entering into a place where sex between men happens and is the norm. It is not church/temple/mosque/synagogue. So gasping and clutching your pearls and stating that people lack morality shows a lack of awareness. 

 

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2nd thing, PEOPLE LACK MANNERS.

when i bump into pple in the maze, i say, "Excuse me". when someone gives way to me in the alleyway, i say, "thx". Generally, Guys are so focused on pleasure-seeking-activities, They are either (1) Impatient, (2) rude which is in their blood, & (3) being inconsiderate & unkind... BEING RUDE IS A NORM nowadays in the Gay Sauna Culture... i feel.

 

I think your expectations of a sauna are misplaced. You are projecting your expectations of yourself on other people. You may have been raised with proper manners but that does not mean everyone has that kind of upbringing. If the lack of manners is such an issue for you, don't go to the saunas. Your other option is to confront the person or persons who have been "inconsiderate and unkind" and tell them to be mindful of their manners. 

 

On 10/27/2023 at 6:53 AM, 30yochinese said:

Lastly, the 3rd thing, PEOPLE LACK RESPECT.
most guys approach me. they smile but once they touch my dick, they sigh/walk away.

its small, & ( my penis is) and smaller than the average size but do u have to reject me for my penis size & assume> "its too short & won't give me the satisfaction of a long thick one."
 

 

I do not think the lack of interest in you is a lack of respect for you. You are confusing the two. 

 

A lack of respect for you means regardless of the size of your penis, people don't give a shit about you. You are treated as invisible. 

A lack of interest in you is more of the journey with this guy ends when I realized he has a small dick. We are not going any further. 

 

The question is are you a top or a bottom? If you are the latter, a small penis is less of an issue. If you are a top, then you have to be creative with what you have. There are strap-ons, and other sleeves you can wear over your penis to satisfy your sexual partners. Google. 

 

It is interesting how you have expressed disgust at the old man who touched you and you "slapped his filthy hand away" but when other men engaged in similar actions, you did not express disgust, but frustration for their lack of respect due to your penis size. Apparently, their hands were not filthy unless they were old. Furthermore, you had said, "anything goes, so there is total freedom to be a sexual predator" and that includes you too since you have guys approached you and touched you. That makes you just as predatory as everyone else in the sauna according to you. 

 

The sauna is there for every gay man (closeted or otherwise) to have a safe space to explore their sexuality. It is not catered to just you and your expectations. I am sure everyone has their issues with the saunas or the rejections they experienced from other people, but they form part of the experience. You take the good with the bad. So you can take your #hardtruths and learn to deal with them instead of whining like a little bitch. #hardtruths.