How to improve your chances and not get rejected in Saunas?

[Steve5380]

And we can work on spiritual improvement too.  One improvement in our looks is the ability to convey self confidence.  This improvement is not limited to gay saunas. This can happen when we 1) treat ourselves with kindness and acceptance.  2) we concentrate on our assets instead of our liabilities.  3) realize that a rejection is not necessarily a shortcoming of the rejected,  but very often a shortcoming, lack of "essence" of the rejecter.  4) enter the sauna with optimism but little expectations, accepting that there are good days and bad days.  Have a contingent plan of what to do there if we find no action.  Do some mental exercise, meditation?  Get entertained with the smartphone? 

[Steve5380]

8 minutes ago, horhorfun said:

My pic?

 

You don't have a picture.  Notice that I replied to someone else.

[horhorfun]

 

5 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

You don't have a picture.  Notice that I replied to someone else.

I thought u were talking to me

[Steve5380]

1 minute ago, horhorfun said:

 

I thought u were talking to me

 

You can easily see in my post the quoted post I was responding to.  It was not your post.

[kwongheng]

22 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Yet there is some objectivity in the question.  WE CAN make ourselves more attractive.   There is always the potential to look better and younger. 

 

If you allow me to comment on your picture,  if it is indeed yours,  you have some potential. You will definitely look younger clean shaved.  ( what are those spots around your eyes?)  You can look better with a longer hair.  If you feel you have too little of it,  then DO SOMETHING people do to enhance it.  Countless men in the media enhance their hair with wigs, hair pieces, transplants.  It does not need to be "you",  it can temporarily improve you for your time in the sauna.  A firmer, slimmer body will also result in a slimmer, more youthful face. And if we talk about improving the looks of the body, there are many ways to do so.

 

Thanks for the comment, this is indeed me. Anyway, I have my own market (just not so much in KB) which I am fully aware of, so I don't problems with my looks or body shape. Some prefer me with stubbles, most like my short hair, then others don't want me to get too slim. So yeah, looks is very subjective.

[Guest guest]

1 hour ago, horhorfun said:

 

I thought u were talking to me

can u stop being so needy, read who other people quoted in the post, not everything is about u la, no wonder u get rejected maybe its ur eq lacking?

[singalion]

5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Countless men in the media enhance their hair with wigs, hair pieces, transplants.  It does not need to be "you",  it can temporarily improve you for your time in the sauna. 

 

ha ha. that made me laugh.

Next time someone will run around the dark maze and calling for people to help him search his wig that he lost ... 🤣

 

Did Berlusconi really look better with his hair transplant?

 

5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

A firmer, slimmer body will also result in a slimmer, more youthful face. And if we talk about improving the looks of the body, there are many ways to do so.

 

And whether long hair or that military cut short hair, it is a matter of preference also. some guys love this "prison hairstyle" look while others don't.

 

A slimmer firmer body may result in more wrinkles showing up around the face.

 

Why do you need to bother on the looks of others?

 

There are gay people here who intend to age gracefully...

 

Not everybody wants to have a slim toned gym bod. Some of those guys even look very artificial. And it is a matter of taste also.

 

Yes sure, there are some means to look younger or keep younger... best is to get sufficient sleep and eat more healthy stuff, do some regular exercise..

 

What you are actually doing here Steve is perpetuating this hedonistic run to look young and "youth obsession".

Unfortunately, it won't stay this way... Better to accept reality.

 

 

 

 

[Sweetie Pie]

5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

"Who you are" is not something that is cast in stone.  The physical body and its appearance can change.  And the spirit can too.

Probably talking about yourself with multiple personalities, as evidenced by your constant contradictions and changes that nobody believes in you anymore.

[Steve5380]

6 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Probably talking about yourself with multiple personalities, as evidenced by your constant contradictions and changes that nobody believes in you anymore.

 

Personalities can change.  What is invariant in a person is called "the essence".  Yes, I have had multiple personalities as my personality progressively changed for the better.  

 

[Steve5380]

7 hours ago, singalion said:

 

ha ha. that made me laugh.

Next time someone will run around the dark maze and calling for people to help him search his wig that he lost ... 🤣

 

Did Berlusconi really look better with his hair transplant?

 

 

Yes, it is laughable.  One reason to choose an INEXPENSIVE wig.  Or to choose a transplant, which is more difficult to lose.

 

And who cares what old Berlusconi used to look like?  

 

 

 

6 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Why do you need to bother on the looks of others?

 

There are gay people here who intend to age gracefully...

 

Not everybody wants to have a slim toned gym bod. Some of those guys even look very artificial. And it is a matter of taste also.

 

Yes sure, there are some means to look younger or keep younger... best is to get sufficient sleep and eat more healthy stuff, do some regular exercise..

 

What you are actually doing here Steve is perpetuating this hedonistic run to look young and "youth obsession".

Unfortunately, it won't stay this way... Better to accept reality.

 

 

EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES...   What does it mean "to age gracefully"??   Is it to be too lazy to fix what can be fixed ????

 

Would you let a 60+ years old house like mine  "age gracefully", or would you do repairs, paint it periodically, clean it frequently? 

Would you let a 29 year old car like my Maxima 1995 "age gracefully", or change the oil, add water, replace tires, fix whichever problems appears?

 

Would you let yourself "age gracefully", or would you go to the doctor to treat whichever illnesses may appear, or at least take an aspirin or other stuff, and periodically cut your nails, go to the hairdresser when your hair gets too long? 

 

It takes some effort to remain perfectly healthy, and so it does to preserve a good look.  ISN'T IT WORTH to invest efforts into our body, which is the only one we have?

[Guest Confusion Confusion]

16 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Yet there is some objectivity in the question.  WE CAN make ourselves more attractive.   There is always the potential to look better and younger. 

 

If you allow me to comment on your picture,  if it is indeed yours,  you have some potential. You will definitely look younger clean shaved.  ( what are those spots around your eyes?)  You can look better with a longer hair.  If you feel you have too little of it,  then DO SOMETHING people do to enhance it.  Countless men in the media enhance their hair with wigs, hair pieces, transplants.  It does not need to be "you",  it can temporarily improve you for your time in the sauna.  A firmer, slimmer body will also result in a slimmer, more youthful face. And if we talk about improving the looks of the body, there are many ways to do so.

 

16 hours ago, horhorfun said:

My pic?

@horhorfunHahaha...Steve5380 has confused you with kwongheng. Just look at kwongheng's profile pic and read Steve5380's post again.🤣

[Guest Confused Confucius]

5 hours ago, Guest Confusion Confusion said:

 

@horhorfunHahaha...Steve5380 has confused you with kwongheng. Just look at kwongheng's profile pic and read Steve5380's post again.🤣

Ooops, I was the confused one, not Steve5380! 🤓🤣

[Beerguy]

On 12/4/2023 at 2:19 PM, horhorfun said:

So how to make more chances of getting accepted at keybox so that people wont reject?

 

It’s like that, if you No looks and No body, you must be good at sucking cock. You suck until the receiver’s resounding moan echoed into every corner of the sauna and when that happens, you will see not only will your chances of rejection be slim but the entire sauna started lining up for you.

 

So you see, solving the sauna problem is straightforward and I’m happy to assist. Everyone has a role in such a place and understanding your role in the game reduces the likelihood of elimination.

 

If Have looks. Have the body BUT small cock. You suck too although you can get away with a so so skill. You station yourselves at brighter area and see a crowd forming around you as you suck for everybody.

 

If you Have the look, Have the body. And Have the Cock. However your suck cock skill is only average. You have to be willing to let people suck your cock and lick your balls. 

 

If you No looks. No body. Small cock. No sucking skill and further more You have Bad manners. Don’t slam me for being straightforward, but the best you stay in the dark corner and bend over. You slut moan until the whole sauna cum over you.

 

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Confused Confucius said:

Ooops, I was the confused one, not Steve5380! 🤓🤣

 

It does not make any difference.  We all have the right to get confused.  

[Sweetie Pie]

40 minutes ago, Beerguy said:

 

It’s like that, if you No looks and No body, you must be good at sucking cock. 

If Have looks. Have the body BUT small cock.  You station yourselves at brighter area and see a crowd forming around you as you suck for everybody.

If you Have the look, Have the body. And Have the Cock. You have to be willing to let people suck your cock and lick your balls. 

If you No looks. No body. Small cock. No sucking skill and further more You have best you stay in the dark corner and bend over. 

 

It's best to get tested for HIV as soon as possible, regardless of whether you got the look or not, can suck and fuck or not.   After testing positive, the Suana's meaningless sex acceptance is exchanged for your entire gay world collapsing like an avalanche and burying all of your gay hope beyond suana activities.    It is best to get to know a person well before engaging in sex.   If a person intend not to like you, having sex with him is meaningless.

 

I've used my own experience to teach my cousin, who is in his adolescent years, how to be a dignified gay person.  Since life is short, he would be betteroff focusing on increasing his wealth, purchasing a house, and becoming independent rather than obsessing over gay sex. Then stop pursuing a gay love relationship with such ardor; instead, let it be an accidental one along the journey.   This is something I will never share with people I don't care about.   Please don't tell anyone this secret. 

[Beerguy]

24 minutes ago, Sweetie Pie said:

It's best to get tested for HIV as soon as possible, regardless of whether you got the look or not, can suck and fuck or not.   After testing positive, the Suana's meaningless sex acceptance is exchanged for your entire gay world collapsing like an avalanche and burying all of your gay hope beyond suana activities.    It is best to get to know a person well before engaging in sex.   If a person intend not to like you, having sex with him is meaningless.

 

I've used my own experience to teach my cousin, who is in his adolescent years, how to be a dignified gay person.  Since life is short, he would be betteroff focusing on increasing his wealth, purchasing a house, and becoming independent rather than obsessing over gay sex. Then stop pursuing a gay love relationship with such ardor; instead, let it be an accidental one along the journey.   This is something I will never share with people I don't care about.   Please don't tell anyone this secret. 

 

But this is a sauna topic and so my answer above is my 2 cents. Who cares whether you are a dignified person or not. Hello???!!!

 

[Sweetie Pie]

26 minutes ago, Beerguy said:

 

But this is a sauna topic and so my answer above is my 2 cents. Who cares whether you are a dignified person or not. Hello???!!!

 

Hello??  I am perfectly on spot and in topic.  You suggested to him how to be accepted,  I warned that acceptance may not be an entirely good thing in those settings.   If he is being accepted, good for him.  Otherwise, it is even better. 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Sweetie Pie

[singalion]

6 hours ago, Beerguy said:

It’s like that, if you No looks and No body, you must be good at sucking cock. You suck until the receiver’s resounding moan echoed into every corner of the sauna and when that happens, you will see not only will your chances of rejection be slim but the entire sauna started lining up for you.

 

So you see, solving the sauna problem is straightforward and I’m happy to assist. Everyone has a role in such a place and understanding your role in the game reduces the likelihood of elimination.

 

Sounds like you are going to open a course in the sauna for guys to increase their appearance/chances in getting chased... haha

 

Let me ask Skills Future if there is a subsidy for this... 🤣

 

 

[horhorfun]

8 hours ago, Beerguy said:

 

It’s like that, if you No looks and No body, you must be good at sucking cock. You suck until the receiver’s resounding moan echoed into every corner of the sauna and when that happens, you will see not only will your chances of rejection be slim but the entire sauna started lining up for you.

 

So you see, solving the sauna problem is straightforward and I’m happy to assist. Everyone has a role in such a place and understanding your role in the game reduces the likelihood of elimination.

 

If Have looks. Have the body BUT small cock. You suck too although you can get away with a so so skill. You station yourselves at brighter area and see a crowd forming around you as you suck for everybody.

 

If you Have the look, Have the body. And Have the Cock. However your suck cock skill is only average. You have to be willing to let people suck your cock and lick your balls. 

 

If you No looks. No body. Small cock. No sucking skill and further more You have Bad manners. Don’t slam me for being straightforward, but the best you stay in the dark corner and bend over. You slut moan until the whole sauna cum over you.

 

Haha entire sauna line up🤣

[And then]

4 minutes ago, horhorfun said:

Haha entire sauna line up🤣

what he wrote is funny and partially true

moaning may attract a crowd, but that is not the same as the crowd wanting to participate

[horhorfun]

4 minutes ago, And then said:

what he wrote is funny and partially true

moaning may attract a crowd, but that is not the same as the crowd wanting to participate

Agreed,some crowd might prefer to just see

[Beerguy]

2 hours ago, And then said:

what he wrote is funny and partially true

moaning may attract a crowd, but that is not the same as the crowd wanting to participate

Yes, I long time never come BW so talk cock with everyone here. Don’t take my words too seriously and slam me. Of course there is some fact in what I wrote as well and we are all adults to know what is true.

[Beerguy]

2 hours ago, horhorfun said:

Agreed,some crowd might prefer to just see

Actually some audience wanted to participate but they are too shy as everyone is watching. If you happen to stand beside that person, be kind and give him encouragement to participate by gently pulling his cock towards the sucker’s mouth.

[Beerguy]

2 hours ago, And then said:

what he wrote is funny and partially true

moaning may attract a crowd, but that is not the same as the crowd wanting to participate

 

19 minutes ago, Beerguy said:

Yes, I long time never come BW so talk cock with everyone here. Don’t take my words too seriously and slam me. Of course there is some fact in what I wrote as well and we are all adults to know what is true.

@And then BTW Not in anyway referring to you when I mentioned slamming me or being adult.

I like your post.

 

[Guest You guys misundertstood]

If the ugly chap is receiving and moaning, it will draws my attention, not to look at him, but at the more handsome giving participants.

[NeitherHereNorThere]

I wonder when seeing people in action, what do you guys look at? The face? The body? Or the sex act?

 

For me, ugly or handsome, hot bod or not, having sex is having sex. I look at how the top thrust into the bottom, I hear how the bottom moans and reciprocate, I feel how hard my dick becomes.. don't really pay attention to the looks and body type anymore

[horhorfun]

24 minutes ago, NeitherHereNorThere said:

I wonder when seeing people in action, what do you guys look at? The face? The body? Or the sex act?

 

For me, ugly or handsome, hot bod or not, having sex is having sex. I look at how the top thrust into the bottom, I hear how the bottom moans and reciprocate, I feel how hard my dick becomes.. don't really pay attention to the looks and body type anymore

When crusing,look at the body and looks(subjective to one preference/type) ,when having sex,look at how the sex is 

[NeitherHereNorThere]

So, the first step is to be able to people into horny mood. Then after that, looks and body don't matter le. Like what @Beerguy said.. if you willing to suck and very good at sucking, offer that (I guess most top won't reject sucking.. ?). Once he is horny enough.. 

[And then]

27 minutes ago, NeitherHereNorThere said:

So, the first step is to be able to people into horny mood. Then after that, looks and body don't matter le. Like what @Beerguy said.. if you willing to suck and very good at sucking, offer that (I guess most top won't reject sucking.. ?). Once he is horny enough.. 

I would suspect there are more people willing to suck, than wanna be sucked.

*** in a sauna overseas, there is this two level set up. on both levels, there are individual cubicles. the top level has a video screen playing porn, and a glory hole to stick his cock into. the lower level is for the suckers. the glory holes from the upper level is at face level, so you do not need to bend down to suck. I always see more people prowling around the lower level, the upper level often empty!!! LOL

[horhorfun]

1 minute ago, And then said:

I would suspect there are more people willing to suck, than wanna be sucked.

*** in a sauna overseas, there is this two level set up. on both levels, there are individual cubicles. the top level has a video screen playing porn, and a glory hole to stick his cock into. the lower level is for the suckers. the glory holes from the upper level is at face level, so you do not need to bend down to suck. I always see more people prowling around the lower level, the upper level often empty!!! LOL

Cause the feeling of sucking is much better than getting sucked,i experience it myself. I prefer to suck than someone sucking me

[NeitherHereNorThere]

Hmm.. ok then maybe I belong to the minority.. I enjoy getting sucked..the longer the better

Edited December 8, 2023 by NeitherHereNorThere

[Beerguy]

On 12/7/2023 at 3:41 PM, singalion said:

 

Sounds like you are going to open a course in the sauna for guys to increase their appearance/chances in getting chased... haha

 

Let me ask Skills Future if there is a subsidy for this... 🤣

 

 

Except I have only been to the sauna less than 5 times and only once locally, twice at the extinct Babylon.

[Steve5380]

On 12/8/2023 at 5:54 AM, NeitherHereNorThere said:

Hmm.. ok then maybe I belong to the minority.. I enjoy getting sucked..the longer the better

 

If so, I am in this minority.  I enjoy getting sucked, period!  I also like to suck on occasions, but not to just "a cock" but the whole person I feel attracted to. 

 

And one word about the moaning and screams of ecstasy by others.  They leave me cold.  THEIR sex is their business.  I concentrate on the gay that attracts me,  not just some pairs of bodies fucking, and I enjoy the best sex in a private setting, if possible.

[Guest Guest]

Hide around the corner or in the dark room or in the maze.....or,

 

observe who is very drunk, or too high and is not aware of who he is playing with....

 

You attack swiftly. 

 

Your chances or hit rate is 100%

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Hide around the corner or in the dark room or in the maze.....or,

 

observe who is very drunk, or too high and is not aware of who he is playing with....

 

You attack swiftly. 

 

Your chances or hit rate is 100%

 

Doesn't this vile way to find sex make you feel miserable?

[horhorfun]

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Hide around the corner or in the dark room or in the maze.....or,

 

observe who is very drunk, or too high and is not aware of who he is playing with....

 

You attack swiftly. 

 

Your chances or hit rate is 100%

Good idea,especially dark room,they cannot see our face,so they are not choosy

[NeitherHereNorThere]

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Hide around the corner or in the dark room or in the maze.....or,

 

observe who is very drunk, or too high and is not aware of who he is playing with....

 

You attack swiftly. 

 

Your chances or hit rate is 100%

Hmm.. I wonder if that constitute as rape.. since no consent was given.. also.. if the top is drunk, can get hard meh? If not, this doesn't work for bottoms..

 

Bottom line.. we are all at sauna for fun, rejections are part and parcel of it, move on and find that someone who appreciates you for who you are

[horhorfun]

50 minutes ago, NeitherHereNorThere said:

Hmm.. I wonder if that constitute as rape.. since no consent was given.. also.. if the top is drunk, can get hard meh? If not, this doesn't work for bottoms..

 

Bottom line.. we are all at sauna for fun, rejections are part and parcel of it, move on and find that someone who appreciates you for who you are

Since when there is consent in sauna?haha

[NeitherHereNorThere]

13 minutes ago, horhorfun said:

Since when there is consent in sauna?haha

😱😱 If there is no consent, then there won't be rejection? Then this topic dun make sense..

[horhorfun]

10 minutes ago, NeitherHereNorThere said:

😱😱 If there is no consent, then there won't be rejection? Then this topic dun make sense..

Haha but in dark room,its hard to have consent

[Guest Consent]

9 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Hide around the corner or in the dark room or in the maze.....or,

 

observe who is very drunk, or too high and is not aware of who he is playing with....

 

You attack swiftly. 

 

Your chances or hit rate is 100%

 

3 hours ago, NeitherHereNorThere said:

Hmm.. I wonder if that constitute as rape.. since no consent was given.. also.. if the top is drunk, can get hard meh? If not, this doesn't work for bottoms..

 

Bottom line.. we are all at sauna for fun, rejections are part and parcel of it, move on and find that someone who appreciates you for who you are

 

2 hours ago, horhorfun said:

Since when there is consent in sauna?haha

yes, this would be rape and of course there is still consent in sauna.
 

You always have the right to say no or stop someone.

 

And if you are too drunk or high to says yes or no and someone specifically takes advantage of this, then this is clearly rape 

[Guest Problem]

When I was in the Sauna, I get frustrated for not being accepted, but also frightened when being accepted.  I wanted to be loved but not sex.  Possible??

[yhtang]

54 minutes ago, Guest Problem said:

When I was in the Sauna, I get frustrated for not being accepted, but also frightened when being accepted.  I wanted to be loved but not sex.  Possible??

Would you go to McD or KFC expecting a fine dining experience, with candles on candelabra, flowers in a cut crystal vase, and plates and underplates set on white, starched, ironed table cloth?

If not, why are you expecting love instead of sex in a sauna?  

Men love sex in a sauna.  Sex in a sauna is not love.  

 

Yes, some men find love in a sauna.  Some people also strike lottery.  But the reality is that most people do not.  Such is life.