I don't want to be seen going into a sauna. Is there a back entrance?

[Guest Igconito]

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

[Guest guest today]

KB do not have any back door entry ..surprising staff are not professional and even serve visitors with the door widely open during their partial renovation where renovation workers walk in and out...

[Guest Regular]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

What I do is this, I change my glasses and wear a mask at Clarke Quay MRT toilet. Cross the road, walk along Song Fa BKT (anyway all China tourist no Singaporean), then you follow the five foot way down, and slide into the front entrance. Fairly easy to avoid people.

 

[PlayersGroup]

17 minutes ago, Guest Regular said:

What I do is this, I change my glasses and wear a mask at Clarke Quay MRT toilet. Cross the road, walk along Song Fa BKT (anyway all China tourist no Singaporean), then you follow the five foot way down, and slide into the front entrance. Fairly easy to avoid people.

 

 

Hello I'm Singaporean and I eat at that Songfa BKT. haha... 

[Steve5380]

On 8/22/2024 at 5:46 AM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

 

Sun glasses and a glued-on moustache. 

[Guest Swimmingcruiser]

Honestly, it's so easy to go incognito nowadays. Just wear sunglasses and a mask. I mean, unless you are super tall or super short, who is going to recognise you. Honestly, I would be more worried about seeing someone I know inside KB, lol  

[BubbaBear]

Don’t you need to apply for member first ? And they take your particulars right ? How to be discreet …?

[tyan]

1 hour ago, Guest Swimmingcruiser said:

Honestly, it's so easy to go incognito nowadays. Just wear sunglasses and a mask. I mean, unless you are super tall or super short, who is going to recognise you. Honestly, I would be more worried about seeing someone I know inside KB, lol  

Yes. That happens to me. I bumped into my hair stylist at the sauna. 

[singalion]

 

 

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

 

Dear Incocknito:

 

Is it permitted to wear balaclavas in Singapore? As to my knowledge it is permitted.

Add on a black face mask but there are balaclavas that cover the complete face.

Another thing would be to wear the head part of a burqa and take it off once you are inside the reception area.

 

You can also make a trip to some certain regions with guerilla fighters and learn to cover up your face "professionally"... for not being recognisable for anyone.

(Columbia, Sudan...)

 

But seriously, I think covering up would make you cause more attention then just walking there and getting to "that place".

You risk that People might call the police as they find your appearance suspicious.

 

 

Actually, I think your fear is a bit on the extreme side. If you are scared there are some people that might know you at the Bak Kut Te restaurant, then just walk from the South Bridge Road side.

 

I would understand your fear if you work just in one of the direct neighbouring buildings, but if not, then cool down a bit.

 

Most people don't know that the house number 17 is about (and wouldn't bother also).

Don't overthink!

 

 

 

 

[singalion]

55 minutes ago, tyan said:

Yes. That happens to me. I bumped into my hair stylist at the sauna. 

 

Still better than bumping into some ex bf's or the worst good close friends of your current bf!

Edited August 26 by singalion

[singalion]

On 8/24/2024 at 6:49 PM, PlayersGroup said:

 

Hello I'm Singaporean and I eat at that Songfa BKT. haha... 

 

... and afterwards head to KB meet some other type of boners .... 🤣

[mate69]

I wonder if the fear/self consciousness is akin to what str8 men feel when they go to a brothel ?

[Guest Just Ask]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

There is no lack of back entrances in every sauna, you only need to ask politely.🤭

[Guest Expat]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

 

I always have the view that Singaporean men are timid and 'balls-less'.  This is yet another example of such.

[cutejack]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

Why ar? Criminal or what ? Thought nobody look at anyone in spore. Still got people looking at yr handsome face n following yr back to sauna meh? 

[singalion]

7 hours ago, mate69 said:

I wonder if the fear/self consciousness is akin to what str8 men feel when they go to a brothel ?

 

For some it might not even be entering a brothel but just a sex shop.... 🤣

[Steve5380]

On 8/26/2024 at 12:38 AM, mate69 said:

I wonder if the fear/self consciousness is akin to what str8 men feel when they go to a brothel ?

 

Maybe... but there is a fundamental difference.

 

Contrary to brothels,  gay saunas lack an important stimulant:  MONEY.   There, we cannot buy love and sex with money.  All we have ( or not) are physical attributes.

 

The very rich can walk into a brothel with a clear conscience,  because they give something tangible in return for sex.  Even a disaster of an individual like Donald Trump can get all the sex he wants by paying, or giving favors.  However...  he may have a bigger problem:  his member may not work anymore. 

[Guest Freedom to Love]

Why is there a need to be afraid of being seen by the public unless you are a star or someone famous? I constantly notice someone standing outside the sauna door, but after a while I either forget what I saw or can't recall his specific appearance, so it quickly became unimportant to me and unworthy of memory.

 

Whether you are a teacher, policeman, lawyer, but once you are off duty you are free as a normal human to releax, ease tensions and choose your own entertainment, as long as it is not a criminal act, why forbid yourself to something perfectly legal?

[cutejack]

1 hour ago, Guest Freedom to Love said:

Why is there a need to be afraid of being seen by the public unless you are a star or someone famous? I constantly notice someone standing outside the sauna door, but after a while I either forget what I saw or can't recall his specific appearance, so it quickly became unimportant to me and unworthy of memory.

 

Whether you are a teacher, policeman, lawyer, but once you are off duty you are free as a normal human to releax, ease tensions and choose your own entertainment, as long as it is not a criminal act, why forbid yourself to something perfectly legal?

He wants to use back entrance even before entering the sauna.

[Guest Lol]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

Hey TS, you are too self conscious. No doubt the entrance is facing a road but its not really a super busy road. No one will be so free to see whos going in or out. Entering the premise is like what, less than 10 secs? And trust me, i bet most people dunno its a gay sauna. Even if you tell normal folks its a men sauna, they will be like - whats that?

[Guest Haha]

2 hours ago, Guest Freedom to Love said:

Why is there a need to be afraid of being seen by the public unless you are a star or someone famous? I constantly notice someone standing outside the sauna door, but after a while I either forget what I saw or can't recall his specific appearance, so it quickly became unimportant to me and unworthy of memory.

 

Whether you are a teacher, policeman, lawyer, but once you are off duty you are free as a normal human to releax, ease tensions and choose your own entertainment, as long as it is not a criminal act, why forbid yourself to something perfectly legal?

 

Maybe he scared his boyfriend see him. Or relatives. Or colleagues. Or students. Even thought it's "legal" there are still some profession if you do this kind of activity is.... Well. Scandalous. Can you imagine if a minister go to gay sauna. 

[Steve5380]

12 hours ago, Guest Freedom to Love said:

 

Whether you are a teacher, policeman, lawyer, but once you are off duty you are free as a normal human to releax, ease tensions and choose your own entertainment, as long as it is not a criminal act, why forbid yourself to something perfectly legal?

 

 

Some members of society condemn things even if they are perfectly legal.  

 

It is perfectly natural that "guest incognito" has concerns about being seen entering a gay sauna.  And he has received plenty of suggestions on how to disguise himself outside the sauna, so this concern should disappear.  What may persist is a concern of being recognized INSIDE the sauna.  But he can ease this too:  whoever recognizes him inside, may also be concerned about being recognized himself,  and most probably will keep his mouth shut.

[Guest Don't laugh]

12 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Some members of society condemn things even if they are perfectly legal.  

 

It is perfectly natural that "guest incognito" has concerns about being seen entering a gay sauna.  And he has received plenty of suggestions on how to disguise himself outside the sauna, so this concern should disappear.  What may persist is a concern of being recognized INSIDE the sauna.  But he can ease this too:  whoever recognizes him inside, may also be concerned about being recognized himself,  and most probably will keep his mouth shut.

I informed my ex-boyfriend that I had moved on to a new, loving, and caring boyfriend.  He said his new boyfriend is more considerate than I was, so he agreed to end our relationship.  We both parted ways in a cordial manner.   We were "shocked" to see each other cruising around the dimly lit sauna maze shortly after, but we both had a tacit knowledge that we had lied to one another. Life goes on without any baggage when we just mind our own business and don't say anything.  When he saw me going into a room with another guy, he simply smiled, no hard feeling whatsoever.  That is where you expect Sauna to be, full of surprises, anxiety and...a happy ending notheless.

[Guest Tell Me]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

Actually, to be honest and frank.  People are afraid of entering the front door of a suana, but they are fucking NOT AFRAID OF CRUISING IN THE PUBLIC TOILET.

How does that make any sense at all?

[egal]

ideally nobody would care, but who r we to judge / tell

[Naveyafluz]

The chances when we stepped into the sauna and meet someone we know outside the sauna is basically not possible. If really that scare then either don't go or get a room. 

[egal]

singapore is so mall, it is so possible, lol

[mate69]

Yes

[Expired Btm Uncle]

KB does have back door. Its a fire safety requirement but they wont open it as no one manning it. They still have to collect entry fee right? Anyway if you are scared of being seen entering KB then you need to consider even getting in you might bump into someone u know and blow your whole cover.  

[Guest Can't Wait!]

Let's wait for China to invent invisible suit, they are so capable of everything nowadays. 

[iKneadyou]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

Hahahha

[NeitherHereNorThere]

Hahaha, pun intended? 🤭 Yes, many rear entrance available inside 🤣

[egal]

lol, tht was wht i thought too when i read the title

[btmslut]

haha this brings back memories. regardless which one i went to, shogun, towel club, rairua, and so many others. i would walk past the door, then u turn and walk past the door again. thenif i was sure nobody was watching me directly i would quickly open the door and rush in. heart pounding so fast haha. then would come to the receptionist/cashier who would ask something like "boy, this one is for gay ah" or "you know this place is for what"... and i would have to pull out my memebrship card (all except shogun had cards if i recall). leaving the place was a hit and miss, you just open the door and walk fast haha

 

one version of shogun was actually on the 2nd floor of a shophouse in telok ayer. to get in you needed to go to the back alley and up the stairs. the first floor was a hairdresser with 2 china ladies, and their back door to the alley was always open. they could see you walking up the stairs really clearly. i actually had a friend bring me there for a haircut (he has a thing for one of them). first time i had my hair shampooed in a hairdresser. she leaned over and whipered in my ear "ni shi bu shi yi zhi qu lou shang" (do you always go upstairs) i just smiled and she smiled back.

[egal]

lol, so funny, the hairdresser

 

i think most of these places are quite out of nowhere, except tmc

[Strange Fruit]

On 8/28/2024 at 10:32 PM, Guest Tell Me said:

Actually, to be honest and frank.  People are afraid of entering the front door of a suana, but they are fucking NOT AFRAID OF CRUISING IN THE PUBLIC TOILET.

How does that make any sense at all?

I think many Singaporeans like to enact certain scenarios as part of a humiliation kink - like how Raeesah Khan enacted her ‘helping’ a ‘victim’ of sexual assault and purportedly getting mocked by policemen in the process. Sadly her arena of playing pretend was not well-chosen and led to real humiliation, but that might have been her subconscious plan all along. After all, one must remember she comes from a very good family and was about to become a mother...sometimes too many things go well in life for a person too easily and there is a self-destruct mechanism that kicks in, partly out of imposter syndrome, partly out of fear of succeeding and having to maintain it in perpetuity, imagine how much hard work and sacrifice that will require. Lots of celebrities are vulnerable to this too, they know they got to where they are purely by luck (lots of talented performers work hard too and never become famous) and the only psychological response is self-sabotage. The French have a term for it: ‘Nostalgie de la boue’ - a return to the mud and filth from which you came. Their Writers and filmmakers have also tackled the subject, think Marquis de Sade and films like Belle de Jour. 

 

So what does this have to do with our topic of our dear harlot who wants to experience the sensual pleasures of a sauna but bemoans the ‘exposure’ of its main entrance? Part of it is a charade, a sort of petty game of being demure and mindful while actually being neither (he wants to get into a sauna after all) ‘Oh no, what will people think of me if they saw me walk into this establishment of ill repute?’ First and foremost, only the people intending to go to the same place will know where that door leads (and maybe the hairdresser below) but that’s about it. Secondly, no-one really cares. But if no one cares, can one’s humiliation kink be fulfilled? You grew up in an environment where gay sex was shameful and kept in the dark, could you ever see it coming out into the light as a perfectly healthy recreational activity in which men gave each other pleasure? That would require a change of mindset on one’s part. And ultimately it is easier to play to one’s deeply entrenched rite of secrecy and humiliation. It’s the same reason why so many attractive gay men spend all their days working out and performing skincare rituals, and yet when it comes to the time to show it off, many still need alcohol and chemical assistance. It’s not the drugs making them uninhibited, rather they are the communion wafer and wine of the secret church they attend - they are merely ingredients of the rites at which they will sacrifice their bodies - the sip of G and the line of cocaine say ‘This is a forbidden ritual’ and they begin to believe it, and it makes the routine sex with the same people worthwhile.

So it is for our shy sauna-goer; he comes here, advertising his sexual deviance as reticence. It is all wayang, perhaps even a little self-righteous boast - ‘I don’t do this all the time, you know, I have scruples.’ He gets all this advice, and it validates him. He can now go to the sauna with the desired commingling of apprehension and sexual expectation, like a born-again virgin. The stage is set, he enters...

[Guest Bizarre meat]

3 hours ago, Strange Fruit said:

I think many Singaporeans like to enact certain scenarios as part of a humiliation kink - like how Raeesah Khan enacted her ‘helping’ a ‘victim’ of sexual assault and purportedly getting mocked by policemen in the process. Sadly her arena of playing pretend was not well-chosen and led to real humiliation, but that might have been her subconscious plan all along. After all, one must remember she comes from a very good family and was about to become a mother...sometimes too many things go well in life for a person too easily and there is a self-destruct mechanism that kicks in, partly out of imposter syndrome, partly out of fear of succeeding and having to maintain it in perpetuity, imagine how much hard work and sacrifice that will require. Lots of celebrities are vulnerable to this too, they know they got to where they are purely by luck (lots of talented performers work hard too and never become famous) and the only psychological response is self-sabotage. The French have a term for it: ‘Nostalgie de la boue’ - a return to the mud and filth from which you came. Their Writers and filmmakers have also tackled the subject, think Marquis de Sade and films like Belle de Jour. 

 

So what does this have to do with our topic of our dear harlot who wants to experience the sensual pleasures of a sauna but bemoans the ‘exposure’ of its main entrance? Part of it is a charade, a sort of petty game of being demure and mindful while actually being neither (he wants to get into a sauna after all) ‘Oh no, what will people think of me if they saw me walk into this establishment of ill repute?’ First and foremost, only the people intending to go to the same place will know where that door leads (and maybe the hairdresser below) but that’s about it. Secondly, no-one really cares. But if no one cares, can one’s humiliation kink be fulfilled? You grew up in an environment where gay sex was shameful and kept in the dark, could you ever see it coming out into the light as a perfectly healthy recreational activity in which men gave each other pleasure? That would require a change of mindset on one’s part. And ultimately it is easier to play to one’s deeply entrenched rite of secrecy and humiliation. It’s the same reason why so many attractive gay men spend all their days working out and performing skincare rituals, and yet when it comes to the time to show it off, many still need alcohol and chemical assistance. It’s not the drugs making them uninhibited, rather they are the communion wafer and wine of the secret church they attend - they are merely ingredients of the rites at which they will sacrifice their bodies - the sip of G and the line of cocaine say ‘This is a forbidden ritual’ and they begin to believe it, and it makes the routine sex with the same people worthwhile.

So it is for our shy sauna-goer; he comes here, advertising his sexual deviance as reticence. It is all wayang, perhaps even a little self-righteous boast - ‘I don’t do this all the time, you know, I have scruples.’ He gets all this advice, and it validates him. He can now go to the sauna with the desired commingling of apprehension and sexual expectation, like a born-again virgin. The stage is set, he enters...

TLDR: that sauna goer is a whore trying to act like a virgin.

 

Next time can just summarise and get to the point faster.

 

No need to use the fanciful French phrase, director and film references, superfluous and irrelevant expoundings with run-on sentences and verbosity!

 

Sheesh... so looong-winded!

 

 

 

 

 

[Strange Fruit]

3 hours ago, Guest Bizarre meat said:

TLDR: that sauna goer is a whore trying to act like a virgin.

 

Next time can just summarise and get to the point faster.

 

No need to use the fanciful French phrase, director and film references, superfluous and irrelevant expoundings with run-on sentences and verbosity!

 

Sheesh... so looong-winded!

 

 

 

 

 

I would dread meeting this one in a sauna. 

[HC-B]

Some gay eager beavers are overthinking. 😪

 

Even if someone you know sees you, and tells you or insinuates to you, or whatever, so what?

It just means he was there too. 😏

 

Which means you too have an ace card to hold against him. Sort of like counter strike.

 

Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t fret. No fuss.

 

So just walk in brazenly waltz through the front door lah—even though what you want most is someone to pound into your back door!

[Guest Guest]

On 8/22/2024 at 6:46 PM, Guest Igconito said:

Does KB has a rear backlane door that I can enter discreetly ? Coz the main entrance is facing a busy road with many ppl walking by. Dun wish to be seen by anyone I know !

I believe nobody care and give a damn you are walking into KB even someone you know. That person you know might not even know what is KB. You think too much.

[yhtang]

I act nonchalant and just stroll through the door to enter the sauna.  

 

And inside the sauna, I look for a fleshy and willing "back entrance" 😁 

[singalion]

On 8/30/2024 at 6:51 PM, Guest Bizarre meat said:

TLDR: that sauna goer is a whore trying to act like a virgin.

 

Next time can just summarise and get to the point faster.

 

No need to use the fanciful French phrase, director and film references, superfluous and irrelevant expoundings with run-on sentences and verbosity!

 

Sheesh... so looong-winded!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mon dieu! At least Fruit Bizarre ( Strange Fruit) knew the movies of Luis Buňuel! That gives him already 80 / 100!

 

Must be a surrealist movie aficionado.

 

Hasta La Vista! Adios. 

 

 

[doncoin]

I read the title of the post and thought to myself, if the fear of being seen entering the sauna is such a concern, instead of looking for the back entrance, be the back entrance.  

Edited September 7 by doncoin

[Guest Bizarre meat]

On 9/2/2024 at 11:32 PM, singalion said:

 

Mon dieu! At least Fruit Bizarre ( Strange Fruit) knew the movies of Luis Buňuel! That gives him already 80 / 100!

 

Must be a surrealist movie aficionado.

 

Hasta La Vista! Adios. 

 

 

 

Excusez-moi? Pardon?

 

"At least"? OK fine... but he's a bit too... meandering for English readers. 😆 

 

Je Suis Singapourien, et Je parle l'anglais

 

Vive La Singapour, et J'aime la France!

 

Bisous bisous,

Au revoir!