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Gayboy, we ought to keep ourselves checked not cos of the AWARE saga, we responsible for our acts not to show but from heart within, straight, gay or bi are no different, different cos people who are proud & think they are holy & saint when actually they have full of dust within

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Gayboy, we ought to keep ourselves checked not cos of the AWARE saga, is for ourselves, we responsible for our acts not to show but from heart within, straight, gay or bi are no different, different cos people who are proud & think they are holy & saint when actually they have full of dust within

Snowball, I fully understand your view but some COOS people tend to use one incident to burn the whole forest of gay. They are trained by their anti-gay church to make unfounded general statement to create fear and hate. We witness it with our own eyes and ears and must not let them have any excuses of it.

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They are trained by their anti-gay church to make unfounded general statement to create fear and hate...

we all are mature, we should know can't believe & follow teaching blindly, they all are human too, if they can't treat all human equal but hatred of gay etc, how noble & how good can they be i wonder? don't they ugly & evil within too? so what type of love those people try to spread about? they are like a mirror to me, i am glad that they exist

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The guy look so cute as shown in straits times today. I would have satisfy his needs if he approached mi.

He is so foolish to ruin his life at such a young age. He is confirmed gay although he has 3 girlfriend before.

His girlfriend should have found out that he is gay.

<_< :whistle:

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The guy look so cute as shown in straits times today. I would have satisfy his needs if he approached mi.

He is so foolish to ruin his life at such a young age. He is confirmed gay although he has 3 girlfriend before.

His girlfriend should have found out that he is gay.

<_< :whistle:

yeah man, he looks cute and decent....what a waste....tsk tsk

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  • 4 weeks later...

Male couple put HDB void deck sex video online

'These acts are disgusting and gross'

Netizens slam men for posting public sex videos online

Yeah right, they can say these because they either have no guts to do these even though they could harbour secret desires to try something so ranchy i.e. like this. Tell me who never have thoughts like that before. As if they never enjoy watching xtube or other tube sites or just simply envious of Gary Ng and would never get a chance to do this at all.

Seeing this pair of couple enjoy themselves until like that, to that % of netizens, what a case of sour grapes. <_<

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One of them is malay and the other is chinese. One of them stayed in the estate opposite the M'sia Railway Station. Seen him coupla times. :ph34r:

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Male couple put HDB void deck sex video online

'These acts are disgusting and gross'

Netizens slam men for posting public sex videos online

Yeah right, they can say these because they either have no guts to do these even though they could harbour secret desires to try something so ranchy i.e. like this. Tell me who never have thoughts like that before. As if they never enjoy watching xtube or other tube sites or just simply envious of Gary Ng and would never get a chance to do this at all.

Seeing this pair of couple enjoy themselves until like that, to that % of netizens, what a case of sour grapes. <_<

Doing in public places is always a "NO' thing. What happened if small childrens or lady happened to walk pass and saw something they are not supposed to see. Can be quite an emotion to bear for a young heart and he/she may live with dirty impression for the rest of their young lifes. Young children innocency became tainted by irresponsibile adult committing open sex. Being gay needs to be responsible than straight people and always kept ourselves checked in public arena so that we have stronger ground to fight for more rights in future.

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One of them is malay and the other is chinese. One of them stayed in the estate opposite the M'sia Railway Station. Seen him coupla times. :ph34r:

yup, spottiswoode there quite happening...

saw gay guys having sex in the cars a couple of times.... (outside ex gan eng seng sch)

and also at the small hill (beside blk 109) - saw a sec sch boy in uniform sucking off a hunk there) :thumb:

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Doing in public places is always a "NO' thing. What happened if small childrens or lady happened to walk pass and saw something they are not supposed to see. Can be quite an emotion to bear for a young heart and he/she may live with dirty impression for the rest of their young lifes. Young children innocency became tainted by irresponsibile adult committing open sex. Being gay needs to be responsible than straight people and always kept ourselves checked in public arena so that we have stronger ground to fight for more rights in future.

Yeah, you'r right about this. I guess been gay makes our profile special. I concure that outdoor funz should be discreet and in consideration of the general public. So target your location and timing properly, elses there is repercussions. I'm sure our star couple would have checked and checked again and ensure safety in their dead night rendevous. But I feel they should not have posted into a blog or state something to have people know its a HDB cause it is unwise to do so. I rather they place their clip on Xtube or what tube and generalise a asian/foreign category without further description.

As for that case of sour grapes, :twisted: I'm just been plain notti to have said that, I'm sorry. ;)

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Seems to me that the only thing that caused an 'outrage' was the fact that people watch the clip/viewing the vidcaps could recognise the locations as some unknown HDB flat in Singapore. So if the the two guys were performing the same acts in any unrecognisable location or in a clearly non-Singapore location, would the viewers experience the same outrage? or simply enjoy the clip for what it was, a piece of amature pxxn. Some people have nothing better to do, just because they saw a piece of amature pxxn shot in a location that was familiar to them, they start making a big ruckus.

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According to a friend, the location was taken back by HDB to be redeveloped, refitted and subsequently rented out to foreigners. Clip could have been taken during the refitting phase when no one was around.

I don't think singaporeans are so brazen to this degree yet? But thats my opinion. :smokin:

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I think they are smart enough not to do it in human traffic areas..so it is either old vacant HDB blk..or unoccupied HDB block.. They provide some form of entertainment la...so dont watch and then complain....

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Whether you like male or female, do NOT go for underage children !

The New Paper (TNP) story

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FOUR men were named and shamed and are being punished for performing obscene acts with an underaged boy. The cases of two others are coming up.

The New Paper reported this on Wednesday. That night, a reporter of the paper went online, posing as a 14-year-old boy seeking an older friend.

This was on the same gay website used by the six men to meet the 15-year-old involved.

So, did the court case make users of the website wary?

Not at all, going by this test.

Within 10 seconds, The New Paper reporter's computer screen was flooded with offers of sex.

There were so many pop-up windows of conversation that the reporter could not cope with the volume of men eager to meet the 'teen'.

In all, about 50 individuals got in touch within a five-hour period, spread over two days.

When the teen said he wanted to buy a new handphone, the buayas (sex predators) were quick to offer money, in exchange for sex acts.

Were they concerned that their target was underaged?

Their only concern was over keeping it quiet. You cannot tell anybody, they insisted.

No one warned the teen off the website, or tell him he was too young to be there.

One, just one, seemed to have a change of heart. This person too had started out like all the others, but after chatting for a while, said sex would be illegal and offered to give the teen $50 or a used handphone, if that was all he wanted.

Of course, the others were willing to hand over cash as well, and much more. But they all wanted sex.

The ages they gave ranged from 18 to 59, and they wanted to find out the boy's height, weight, race and something about his looks.

Some were more direct and asked: 'How much?'

They even came out with what could be incriminating information.

Two of them said they already had sex with boys as young as 14, when asked if they had any prior experience.

One man, who claimed he was a 35-year-old named Jackson, wanted to go beyond paying the teen to service him. He asked about younger siblings.

After finding out that the teen had younger brothers aged 9 and 7 (invented as bait), he offered $200 in total to perform lewd acts on them.

Did the predators know they would be committing an offence?

They all acknowledged that the acts suggested were against the law. They then told the teen to be 'discreet'.

The offers ranged from $30 to $350 for sex with the 14-year-old.

One person wanted the boy to 'pleasure him' while he took photographs. He was willing to pay $100.

Two others offered their handphones as payment for being pleasured.

One wanted to set the 14-year-old up with a 35-year-old man and was ready to pay $350.

He claimed to be a 32-year-old man, and left his handphone number and name as Roy.

For that amount, he wanted the boy to stay with him for a week at a hotel.

Online talk is one thing, but would they go further and meet their prey face to face?

The New Paper reporter posing as a teen set up meetings with four men.

They were to meet outside Toa Payoh Stadium on Thursday. All four turned up.

One man even waited for hours. (See report on facing page.)

Apparently, most of them wanted a quick deal.

While still online, many had asked to meet the same night, offering to drive by and pick the boy up, though it was 11pm.

Later, all agreed to meet a day or two afterwards, but only after much reassurance that they would not be let down.

When it came to the location, they were not as picky.

Some offered their cars and homes, while others asked if the boy's place was available.

The one who wanted to engage in sexual activities with the 14, 9 and 7-year-olds even asked if the boys' parents would be out another day.

When crocs feed on small prey, their hunger knows no bound, it seems.

What nerve! They show up in public place for prey

WOULD men who prey on boys online go so far as to meet them in public?

Yes, they would, going by the mini test done by The New Paper on Sunday.

After chatting with a reporter posing as a teen, the four men were individually asked to meet the boy at Toa Payoh Stadium at different times.

Each was told to carry a newspaper in their hands as an identifier. One insisted on bringing a magazine instead.

The reporter waited at a distance to observe the men at the appointed times.

Each of the four arrived at the appointed time, with the newspaper or magazine in hand.

They had not been shown any pictures of their prey - 'a 14-year-old boy'.

Nor did they have his contact number. All they had was his e-mail.

Yet, one of them waited for almost 11/2 hours, while the reporter watched discreetly from a distance.

No direct contact was made with any of the buayas (crocodiles in Malay and slang for sex predators) for safety reasons.

Two of the buayas appeared to be in their 20s, while one was in his 30s. Another looked in his 40s.

The highest bidder

The first appeared around 2.30pm.

The man, the oldest among those who turned up, held a folded newspaper in his hands and walked quickly into Toa Payoh Stadium, while surveying the people sitting near the entrance.

He wore khaki-coloured pants which had been rolled up to his ankles, a white polo T-shirt and slippers.

About 15 minutes later, he dashed out of the stadium, looking around anxiously as though expecting someone to pounce on him.

In his webchats, he had asked us to call him Henri.

He had also made the highest offer.

'If you can make me very happy, I'll give you $300,' he said.

The longest wait

The second man seemed the most desperate of the lot. He waited for 1 1/2 hours for his prey to turn up.

The man, who called himself Dave, aged 35, was 15 minutes late for his appointment.

During the previous day's chat, he had given the reporter posing as a boy his handphone number.

When he could not be spotted in the crowd, the reporter called him.

He was very well-spoken. He confirmed he had arrived and was standing beside his car as agreed, in a white T-shirt and grey shorts.

The man standing beside the silver car was chubby and looked nervous. At first he just stood there, apparently looking out for the schoolboy.

Then he moved to higher ground, craning his neck as though in search of something. When he got bored, he read a newspaper. Later, he lit a cigarette.

It was close to 5pm when he finally drove off, and even then his eyes continued to rove.

The double show

The third man, who claimed to be in his 20s, circled the area three times, before leaving.

All the while, his eyes seemed to be peeled for the young boy he had agreed to meet.

Later that night, the reporter received four e-mails from this man, expressing both disappointment and anger at the no-show.

He was told that another meeting would not be arranged as his reluctance to give a contact number made it easy for the 'boy' to be stood up.

The persistent man quickly gave his handphone number and MSN address.

All this took place via e-mail.

A meeting was arranged for the next day, at 4.45pm, and the man did as instructed - he turned up and lurked around, again without a newspaper.

The one from school

The last man, called Steve, went by the nickname 'ampm', and claimed to be a 23-year-old.

Our meeting had been arranged at 6.30pm.

He said he did not want to be late as he was coming from school.

Wearing white sneakers, jeans and a blue short-sleeve shirt, he walked around for 10 minutes before pulling a magazine out of his black backpack.

He then sat on the concrete bench outside the stadium for five minutes before making a call and walking off.

Later, he too sent an e-mail saying he had waited in vain.

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Anyone know which chat room is this that they are referring too? My god, i wanna buy a new handphone too!

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Entrapment is so yesteryears. Employing such outrageous sale tactics?! Just to sell TNP?!

How about posing as an underage girl in so many dozens straight chatrooms and see how many men u get from there?

TNP, get a life! Are they trying to tarnish the gay reputation or to highlight the inadequacies of governance?

You can't bloody stop underage teens from having sex among themselves either. Do we actively prosecute them?

MORONS. the quality of news is absurd!

The more i re-read the news, the more angry i feel! MY god!

Where on earth is their social conscience? and responsibility to US? To the gay people in Singapore?! To the rest of us who are not sexual deviants?

THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS!

How many percentile of chatroom users actually chat with the reporter? Does this correlate with current research on sexual deviants in developed countries? The report is so loop sided and we can't sit here and do nothing when it reaches out to so many thousands of readers.

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Singapore's journalism has really become very pathetic. If they cannot fish out stories to write on, the journalists simply resort to entrapment and create some false sense of excitement.

I have long boycotted TNP. Instead of asking their journalists to waste time for several hours just to report the persistence of the old man, they should simply pack their journalists to school to learn journalism again (which should include code of ethics for journalism) and grammar.

Anyway, like what Henry said, it probably serves to remind those preying on kids to be careful. For that, we should thank the journalists for their 用心良苦。

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Hi Guys, Never Ever Mess Around with Under-age.

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Aug 5, 2009 StraitsTimes.com

Duo jailed for obscene act

By Elena Chong, Courts Correspondent

TWO men who committed an obscene act on a 15-year-old boy on separate occasions were each jailed three months on Wednesday.

Victor Ng Yong You, 25, then a property agent, and Thomas Song Choong Chen, 36, a supervisor, had earlier pleaded guilty to their respective offences last month. They are the second and third persons to be dealt with in court.

Quek Hock Sing, 42, has since been dealt with for a similar offence against the teenager.

A district court heard that the victim, now 17, had been chatting with people on social networking websites since he was in Primary 3.

In 2004, he found out about an online chatroom popular with homosexual men, and started chatting with strangers.

In December 2006, desperate for money, he started posting messages on the site, 'seeking paid fun'. He claimed he was 16 but would give his real age when he met or spoke to the other party on the phone.

In January 2007, the victim chatted with Ng online and asked if he could give him a lift to Wisma Atria to collect his phone. The victim offered his sexual service in exchange for Ng's help.

After fetching the boy, Ng drove to an underground carpark in Bukit Merah where he committed the obscene act on the victim.

In Song's case, the court heard that he went to the victim's flat around early 2007 and paid him $50 for his sexual services.

The victim's mother made a police report in May 2007 after someone called and told her about her son's activities over the Internet.

Ng and Song could each have been fined up to $5,000 and/or jailed for up to two years for the offence under the Children and Young Persons Act.

The cases against two others are pending while the court had called for a pre-sentence report on Muhammad Hafashah Mohd Aslam, 21, who admitted to having the victim perform oral sex on him on Aug 26.

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It just goes to show...

even if he consented. Even if he prostitutes himself and gets paid for it...

if he is a MINOR i.e. below legal age... YOU the adult should know better than to have any sex with him...

now he has best of both worlds... earn YOUR MONEY and FXXK you stupid wif the law... and he gets away SCOTT FREE...

think about it... how horny must you be to do a minor here in Singapore, where they have no brains, and 100% protected by the law...

i got only two words for those guys... KAM GONG....

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EXACTLY... learn to say no to minors, no matter how horny you are or how cute he is.

ultimately he has the whole world plus the law as his backing. also let the youngs have a chance to grow up and think of their action...

:thumb: When I Think It, I Do It, I Win It! :thumb:

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EXACTLY... learn to say no to minors, no matter how horny you are or how cute he is.

ultimately he has the whole world plus the law as his backing. also let the youngs have a chance to grow up and think of their action...

Yah lor. Luckily i only have the hots and are horny towards old uncles only. :whistle:

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TNP, get a life! Are they trying to tarnish the gay reputation or to highlight the inadequacies of governance?

ded and we can't sit here and do nothing when it reaches out to so many thousands of readers.

Completely agree.

In years to come, TNP will be viewed as the laughingstock of Singapore, just as Thio Li Ann is now.

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ooo if all older gays avoid under 16yo gays...i wonder when we were in our teens that time, wouldnt we be so horny coz no older guys want us??

i was attached w my ex when i was 15yo....and i believe he didnt tot of me underage at that time. he was 9yrs older than me haha

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to the above guest...

your ex is a STUPID FOOL if he had sex with you during that age, he will FOREVER be held in fear that anytime in your life, that you can reported him to the authority for minor sex.

and his name and face will be splash all over the papers like the Duo in this thread.

:thumb: When I Think It, I Do It, I Win It! :thumb:

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I really hope the garmen will allow some form of PLU organisation registered so that we can educate gay persons, what to do and what NOT to do. Its sad seeing so many fine you gay men going to jail just because of some mistakes. For some, their whole life will be ruined.

Its funny, the mother just report to the police and her responsibility is over. The report says her son started going into internet chat room at 9 years old, and for 6 years, the mother just didn't know what is happening to her son until someone from the net called her home.

How come the mother do not have to accept some responsibility in this case. Only the men are penalised even its the son who try to "seduce" the guys.

I am NOT advocating that we participate sexual activity with the young people. The FACTS are here, very young people go to the net and have sex, both boys and girls. Please don't get caught and ruin your life.

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OK, I'm no longer young. But I started out underage too! I had my first suck at 13. It was a stranger I met at the then National Library. Was reading all the steamy stories in the toilet walls and didn't realized there were peep holes. Then while in MPH browsing one guy chatted me up and though very shocked he saw me playing myself, I allow him to bring me t o the toilet. There he sucked for me. I am often at the library cruising since then and had sucked off many cruisers in MPH toilet as well as parkmall. I eventually got myself fxxked in Peninsula Plaza toilet. Interestingly, all the guys I played with were men! None of them were teenagers like me. How to report them? Till today I still enjoy anonymous sex with strangers :)

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Mine not so extreme but had my first gay exp (actually, first sex experience cause im bi) when i was 14 with my 18 year old friend. can't blame him really....he was a really good friend and our ages didn't matter cause either he was immature like a 14 yr old or i was mature like a 18 yr old but the fact remained that we were just 2 horny teens who wrestled and felt our dicks getting hard. so in the ensuing hours, we spent looking at pxxn and sucking each other off in my room.

ahhhhh those were the days....now sex is so run of the mill and not as exciting.

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Mine not so extreme but had my first gay exp (actually, first sex experience cause im bi) when i was 14 with my 18 year old friend. can't blame him really....he was a really good friend and our ages didn't matter cause either he was immature like a 14 yr old or i was mature like a 18 yr old but the fact remained that we were just 2 horny teens who wrestled and felt our dicks getting hard. so in the ensuing hours, we spent looking at pxxn and sucking each other off in my room.

ahhhhh those were the days....now sex is so run of the mill and not as exciting.

u can try having sex with pigs, cows, or even dead ppl...maybe it will re-ignite ur passion for sex!

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Today's chinese newspaper reported two naked guys were found unconscious in a room. One was pronounced dead while the younger one was in coma. According to the report, both of them have been together for quite sometime already. The report was written in such a way to avoid the term "gay couple" but the message behind was obvious. What would be reasons behind their sufferings ? Could it be drugs ? Fake Viagra again ? :unsure:

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The young one was reported to have wound marks on his bod. very strange hor? maybesome form of S&M was involved? Paper said the older guy dead with a smile on his face looking as if very satisfied. Maybe issit sex exhaustion used with drugs and plus lots of body punishment. then cannot tahan too high then die? :o

Serve my fellow bottom men well !

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dont agree with u snowball

things like this may be serious

we dont want to be in the news like that

so must discuss and learn lessons what not to do

maybe got 3rd party involved?

or drugs

any furthur news?

or maybe we can discuss how not to go too far

for those who are s/m inclined

I learnt - never try to strangle yourself in your hotel bathroom

naked or in womens clothes

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very xia suay to die like that.

all the dark secrets leak out to ur frens and families..

i suspect drug being used or maybe the dead guy was using viagra? or viagra w pills?

foaming in mouth mean u must have cardiac arrect for sure.

the unconscious could have trying to get help but also collapsed on the floor while trying to get help?

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Looks like a case of "too much" for the older one, and "cannot take it" for the younger one.

 

 

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Yesterday’s tears and today’s smiles will stay true

We’ve experienced the same pain, we’ve gathered the same kindness

And we’ll turn them into the strength to live on tomorrow"

 

 

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Rather than saying "what I've heard is that.. blah blah",

Would it be better to say something more convincing, like "official report that says ... " I never trust whats written in the papers usually, its for the headlines most of the time, not proper facts are written too.

And I don't see how making the whole situation entertaining like the mentioning of "SM" involved is educating any of us here.

:wacko:

Anyway, its sad for this to had happened.

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Rather than saying "what I've heard is that.. blah blah",

Would it be better to say something more convincing, like "official report that says ... " I never trust whats written in the papers usually, its for the headlines most of the time, not proper facts are written too.

And I don't see how making the whole situation entertaining like the mentioning of "SM" involved is educating any of us here.

:wacko:

Anyway, its sad for this to had happened.

Then how to explain the bruises around the mouth and scars on body? Maybe they fought and got aggressive when on drugs? Then the older one died due to exhaustion after hammer the young one to unconscious? :thumb:

Serve my fellow bottom men well !

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Its rather sad to die this way. This is definitely not the first case. There were several cases happened within these few years. The past two cases were due to the content in the fake viagra. Sigh...hope we will learned from these unfortunate mishaps. No one will ever like to die this way...my heart goes out to them and their families.

We have to cautious and mind those stuffs.....instead of aiming blindly for their effects. :wacko:

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