Singapore Local Gay News [LGBT Related News] (Compiled)

[Guest Erotictales]

The evening tv news specifically mentioned there was investigation into whether the deceased had sexual intercourse with the key male witness prior to death.

[Guest Wah Piang]

As gays we should really use poppers and other chemsex enhancement drugs with care..

What an utterly stupid and irresponsible remark!

Shouldn't you be saying that we SHOULD'NT use drugs instead?

Your lifestyle is yours and yours alone, not all gays are like you.

[retri]

What an utterly stupid and irresponsible remark!

Shouldn't you be saying that we SHOULD'NT use drugs instead?

Your lifestyle is yours and yours alone, not all gays are like you.

I think there's no need to go personal. =) chill.

[Guest NoGayLeh]

Extracted from CNA.. No mention of Gay wor. I don't think this has anything to do with gay-sex-poppers:

Amphetamine, painkiller detected on chocolate wrapper in dead student's bag

SINGAPORE: Amphetamine and Ibuprofen, a painkiller, were detected on a chocolate wrapper found in a bag belonging to Scott Jared Monat, an American exchange student who died on 4 March last year.

Mr Monat, a 21-year-old scholar from the University of Miami, had spent last year at the National University of Singapore (NUS) on an exchange programme.

In a Coroner's Inquiry to determine the circumstances leading to the student's death, the court heard that the drug-tainted wrapper was found by Mr Monat's parents.

The bag was sent home to the United States after Mr Monat collapsed in a NUS hostel, where he had been staying while on the exchange programme.

Mr Monat's parents also found inside the bag five Ibuprofen tablets, two Sertraline tablets - an anti-depressant - and an Oxycodone tablet, which is another painkiller.

The Monats informed the investigation officer handling the case, Senior Station Inspector Mohd Salleh, about their discovery and he went down to Atlanta, Georgia to retrieve them.

SSI Mohd Salleh also told State Coroner Victor Yeo on Wednesday that the authorities had examined Mr Monat's laptop computer and found no suicide notes inside.

The court had earlier heard that doctors found a cocktail of drugs inside the 20-year-old's body when they examined it.

They include Xanax tranquilisers, insomnia medication - Ambien and gamma hydroxbutrate or GHB, a substance that generates euphoria and reduces inhibitions.

Forensic pathologist, Dr Wee Keng Poh, had then said that mixing such drugs with alcohol was a dangerous combination that could lead to sudden heart failure.

The hearing continues on Thursday.

[handsomechub]

On what basis are you calling them gay? you KNOW either party in real life? Or are you SPECULATING? I'm holding back from lashing out at you at the moment.

Becos the chinese papers has STATED clearly they had a GAY relationship.Dun be ignorant and start screaming! Thanks.

[handsomechub]

What an utterly stupid and irresponsible remark!

Shouldn't you be saying that we SHOULD'NT use drugs instead?

Your lifestyle is yours and yours alone, not all gays are like you.

Exactly, your lifestyle and my lifestyle is different, thats why im not dictating whether you should or should not use.

I just saying to "use with care", its just a general statement that if u wan to use , please do with care, but if you dont, then just ignore it.

Dont read too much into a single sentence and jump to conclusions.(unless you have lots of time).

[handsomechub]

Extracted from CNA.. No mention of Gay wor. I don't think this has anything to do with gay-sex-poppers:

Amphetamine, painkiller detected on chocolate wrapper in dead student's bag

SINGAPORE: Amphetamine and Ibuprofen, a painkiller, were detected on a chocolate wrapper found in a bag belonging to Scott Jared Monat, an American exchange student who died on 4 March last year.

Mr Monat, a 21-year-old scholar from the University of Miami, had spent last year at the National University of Singapore (NUS) on an exchange programme.

In a Coroner's Inquiry to determine the circumstances leading to the student's death, the court heard that the drug-tainted wrapper was found by Mr Monat's parents.

The bag was sent home to the United States after Mr Monat collapsed in a NUS hostel, where he had been staying while on the exchange programme.

Mr Monat's parents also found inside the bag five Ibuprofen tablets, two Sertraline tablets - an anti-depressant - and an Oxycodone tablet, which is another painkiller.

The Monats informed the investigation officer handling the case, Senior Station Inspector Mohd Salleh, about their discovery and he went down to Atlanta, Georgia to retrieve them.

SSI Mohd Salleh also told State Coroner Victor Yeo on Wednesday that the authorities had examined Mr Monat's laptop computer and found no suicide notes inside.

The court had earlier heard that doctors found a cocktail of drugs inside the 20-year-old's body when they examined it.

They include Xanax tranquilisers, insomnia medication - Ambien and gamma hydroxbutrate or GHB, a substance that generates euphoria and reduces inhibitions.

Forensic pathologist, Dr Wee Keng Poh, had then said that mixing such drugs with alcohol was a dangerous combination that could lead to sudden heart failure.

The hearing continues on Thursday.

ya agree also..most sources didnt mention about it, but LianHe ZaoBao specifically stated very clearly they had a gay relationship, went thailand together, and broke up after the chinese guy realised the other fella was on drug abuse.

[Guest Wah Piang]

I just saying to "use with care",

LOL yeah, selective defend.

How about the "WE" in the "As gays we " part?

If you think CNB will conduct raids, it's because of remarks like yours.

[handsomechub]

LOL yeah, selective defend.

How about the "WE" in the "As gays we " part?

If you think CNB will conduct raids, it's because of remarks like yours.

honestly there is no "selective defend" here, but rather, if u wanna nit pick, then lets just say "we" used here is refering to the general visitors in Bw forum, otherwise, what pronoun do you suggest?

If CNB will conduct a raid over a single comment that I make, then probably you wouldn't be sitting here crying out loud anymore.LOL

[Guest getupdated]

"Accusations

Mr Tan then pointed out that the men’s mutual friend, Ms Patra Vongsoasup, had said in her police statement that Mr Monat told her that Mr Ho had drugged him and then made him perform oral sex.

Another mutual friend, Ms Gal Parelman, had also said she was told by Mr Monat that Mr Ho had made him give “sexual favours”.

Mr Ho denied he had done so and said he had “no clue” why his friends would allege such things. He said there was no animosity between him and them.

Mr Ho had raised the alarm around 5am on March 4 last year when he could not wake Mr Monat in the latter’s NUS hostel room at the Prince George’s Park Residences.

Other residents performed cardiopulmonary resuscitation on Mr Monat, but he died later at the National University Hospital.

Mr Ho said Mr Monat had been popping pills and downing alcohol in the hours before he collapsed.

His cause of death has been identified as acute mixed drug reaction with acute alcohol intoxication.

Earlier this week, another mutual friend, Mr Yong Xunkai, 24, had testified that Mr Ho was stalking Mr Monat.

Mr Yong said: “(Mr Monat) also told me that he was afraid of Jason as Jason was being obsessive and would keep calling him to meet up.”

Mr Yong and Mr Monat were in a relationship, but while holidaying in Thailand in mid-February, they decided they should just be friends instead.

The court heard that Mr Ho was aware that Mr Monat and Mr Yong were homosexuals.

Mr Yong, a third-year engineering student in Nanyang Technological University, said Mr Monat told him that Mr Ho would drop in at his hostel at least twice a week, sometimes uninvited.

He added that Mr Ho also told them that he was Jewish, spoke Hebrew and brought Mr Monat Jewish delicacies so that he could draw closer to the American.

Mr Ho denied the claims yesterday. He said he is a Buddhist and that Mr Monat was the one who was obsessed with him.

Mr Monat met Mr Ho at a gay bar at Neil Road on Feb 7 last year.

Photographs taken in a room at Fairmont Hotel indicated a close relationship between the two men.

The photographs, taken two weeks after they met, were extracted from Mr Ho’s mobile phone by the police.

In four of the photos, they were in bed, with MrMonat resting his head on Mr Ho’s shoulder. Mr Ho was topless and covered with a blanket. Both men were smiling.

When asked by Mr Tan what they were doing in the hotel room, Mr Ho, who spoke with a slight American accent, said: “I was working late and my family knew I was (checking) into a hotel. You can’t stay in hotels when you want to?”

Mr Ho lives with his family at Clementi. He went to New York when he was 16 and graduated from Columbia University in 2003.

He returned to Singapore after that and now works in a financial institution.

Another set of photographs, taken in Mr Monat’s hostel room, showed the two men, faces pressed together, in different poses. This time, Mr Monat was topless." - ripped from the stomp website.

for more of this article, here is the link:

http://thecourtroom.stomp.com.sg/stomp/courtroom/case_of_the_day/350462/sporean_denies_drugging_us_student_for_sexual_favours.html

[Guest Guest]

Jason Ho is so fat! OMG!

[handsomechub]

Jason Ho is so fat! OMG!

haha

u expecting a hunk to be paired with another hunk?LOL

[Guest Guest]

haha i find him rather cute and attractive

Jason Ho is so fat! OMG!

[alfonque]

POLICE RAID @ Msquare Bodyworks Near Tanjong Pagar.. Was Caught RED-HANDED And Now Under POLICE case!

[Guest when&who?]

When was that happen? who get caught red handed? you get caught?

details please!

[Guest guest!]

Has anyone gone to msquared bodyworks? What was it like? Anyone can share?

[Guest Ivan chiu]

Waaaah... I have been there just last two weeks... Too scary why have raid like this? What happened to the guests? Has anyone been jailed? Now im too scared lor....

[davies1213]

I've been there before. Nice setting and good service. Can't figure out what's wrong and what the police caught them for. Puzzled.

[Guest sg_wildfire]

Have a friend working there. Seems that the police came and caught a china boy and his customer nude. Found condoms and KY but unused. China boy was arrested (released on the same day) and told to leave within 3 days. Customer was not arrested (it is not illegal to visit massage salons).

Seems that another massage parlour was raided a few days later. Don't have the details cos I dunno anyone there. As usual, Singapore Police got nothing better to do.

[Summer]

Such visit by the authorities are not raid. These are normal spot checks to massage parlors for workers without permit, illegal employment such as underage workers.

Nothing unusual about it.

[Guest guest]

today news a taxis driver pull down his pants for a man dress in women clothes . both admitted appearing nude in the cab and engage in sexual activities. a police man on foot patrol caught the duo. wonder any one was caught at ford road car park with their pants down too in the vehicle?

[Guest 100]

today news a taxis driver pull down his pants for a man dress in women clothes . both admitted appearing nude in the cab and engage in sexual activities. a police man on foot patrol caught the duo. wonder any one was caught at ford road car park with their pants down too in the vehicle?

They didnt say if cab uncle is married or single........If married man, sure wife BUAY TA HAN LIAO ! :oops:

[Guest guest]

Aiya, why the policeman go and catch them. Just give them warning will do mah... They should spend time catching robbers or murderers instead. Wonder why they don't catch couples making out in east coast area????

Got one time in the east coast car park, it was quite bright n a couple was making out inside the car, the patrol car stop take a look and drove off without doing a check. Also indecent wha...

maybe in this case, the policeman dislike taxi men or agua...???

[FattChoy88]

Maybe it's too hot.

They just want to air their bird-bird.

Haha....

Aiya, why the policeman go and catch them. Just give them warning will do mah... They should spend time catching robbers or murderers instead. Wonder why they don't catch couples making out in east coast area????

Got one time in the east coast car park, it was quite bright n a couple was making out inside the car, the patrol car stop take a look and drove off without doing a check. Also indecent wha...

maybe in this case, the policeman dislike taxi men or agua...???

[Guest Nice bottom]

My dream is to have the panadol taxi uncle strip his pants and do me.

[Guest 88]

the botak uncle looks like LITTLE NONYA butcher acted by Yao Wen Long

[Guest too big]

Yesterday Sin Ming chinese newspaper and today straits times reported that the couple are gays. The dead man name francis and his partner has been staying together for 2.5 years. The dead man mum also suspected that his son is gay. Police have found used condoms, lubricants and drugs wraps including viagro and ketamin. Sexual games and handcuffs were also found. The dead man partner also admitted that they have sex regularly.

According to the report,the dead man has informed his mum not to go to his shop to clean his room for 2 days.This show he is having wild fun with his partner on these days. His partner has been working for him and staying in his house for more than 2 years. So his partner depends on him for his living expenses.

I mean they should just have normal sex.why go to the extent to have wild fun like SM bondage and drugs.It is very risky although they have try many times. what do all of u see this incidents. There are quite a number of these incidents involving gay recently in the press.

[kimlo777]

Personally I enjoy straightforward sex and I don't partake in S&M or any 'risky' sexual acts. However, there are others who enjoy such acts and it is really none of our business if they do so within the confines of their own homes. I, including all of you, should not be judgmental about how other wish to lead their lives or indulge sexually.

We, who are often the target of public's discrimination, shouldn't we be more understanding and tolerant of others?

[Guest Centrino]

Just stay away from drugs... simple as that.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is sad enough we should not criticise them. Every couple have their preferences in terms of sex so let's give each other some respect. Just like people who frequent sauna looking for sex! Not much diff too. So let's stop criticising and take it as a lesson learned. BTW, working for his partner is not the same as depending on his partner for a living la. He worked for it.

Yes, drugs usage is a big NO NO. We just have to learn from them.

[Guest alien]

Just stay away from drugs... simple as that.

I think no matter gay or str8, all shld stay clear of drugs!

[Guest ttttt]

SINGAPORE: A 16—year—old boy who made his schoolmates have anal sex with him will be put on probation for 36 months and perform 120 hours of community service.

The teenager, who was 14 years old when he committed the offences, has an IQ of 84.

This puts him at the low end of the average range of intelligence.

His two mildly retarded victims were 14 and 15 years old when he had sex with them.

The Court Today heard that the boy must now be accompanied by his parents whenever he is in contact with "males who are intellectually challenged".

He must attend an "offence specific treatment programme".

His parents and aunt also have to pay a bond of $5,000 to ensure his good behaviour.

The Court heard that the teenager decided to have sexual contact with his victims after he encountered pxxnographic gay websites on the Internet.

He approached his first victim who agreed to have sex with him after the teenager threatened to sever their friendship if he turned down the request.

The two teenagers then had sex at a multi—storey carpark at Block 603A Senja Road in the Bukit Panjang area in March 2008.

The teenager had a similar sexual encounter with the other boy at a different multi—storey carpark at Block 185A Jelebu Road located in the same neighbourhood in October that year.

The Court was told that his second victim continued having sex with him out of fear that the teenager might spread rumours about him.

The crimes only came to light when the second victim told his own mother about his ordeal.

The boy’s mother told the school and staff members then informed the police about it.

Speaking to reporters after the hearing, the offender’s parents said that their son is now banned from using the Internet.

They will also work together with his aunt to take him home from school every day.

For his offences, the teenager could have been sentenced to up to 10 years’ jail, fined, or both. — CNA/jm

By Channel NewsAsia, Updated: 09/07/2010

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/singapore/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4209046

[Guest passby]

SINGAPORE: A 16—year—old boy who made his schoolmates have anal sex with him will be put on probation for 36 months and perform 120 hours of community service.

The teenager, who was 14 years old when he committed the offences, has an IQ of 84.

This puts him at the low end of the average range of intelligence.

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The Court heard that the teenager decided to have sexual contact with his victims after he encountered pxxnographic gay websites on the Internet.

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I object your honour. :swear: :swear: If you get on the internet, you are most likely be bombarded by straight girly websites without even looking for them. By that logic, he should be wanting to have sex with women. For gay websites, he really must be interested to hunt for them. The ratio of str8 to gay websites is like 100:1.

[Guest Troy]

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/S...ory_551426.html

Alex Fong Guo Yuan was jailed three years on Thursday. District Judge Hamidah Ibrahim noted the young age of the victim. -- PHOTO: SINGAPORE POLICE FORCE

A 26-YEAR-OLD man sodomised a 13-year-old boy after getting to know him through the SG Boys website.

Some three weeks earlier in early August 2008, the secondary school student had performed oral sex on the freelance film director in his car.

Alex Fong Guo Yuan was jailed three years on Thursday. District Judge Hamidah Ibrahim noted the young age of the victim. She had also heard that Fong had a sexually transmitted disease when he had unprotected sex with the minor.

The boy, who cannot be named as he is a minor, went to the police on Sept 17 2008. Investigations then revealed that after chatting online about oral and anal sex, Fong arranged to meet the boy at the Geylang East swimming complex sometime before National Day. They then went to a multi-storey car park in Aljunied Avenue 2 where the boy performed oral sex in Fong's car.

They met again on Aug 27 when Fong picked the boy at his school. In a hotel room in Geylang, they had anal sex.

A medical examination on Fong on Sept 24 indicated that Fong had chlamydia urethritis - a sexually transmitted disease that can make passing urine painful. The court was not told if Fong, who did not use a condom when with the boy, was aware that he had this disease.

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[Guest Safe Sex]

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[doncoin]

The problem with Chlamydia is that there are no visible symptoms in men. Unless you get an STD test done, it is hard to tell that you have it.

[Guest court-case]

Tution Teachers Bewear :

Jail, caning for sex with boy

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_552764.html

On Monday, the tutor, who cannot be not named to protect the identity of the boy, was sentenced to six year's jail and six strokes of the cane.

THE boy was nine when he started talking about sex with his tutor.

During a tuition session in his bedroom, the boy told the 36-year-old man that he was curious about men's genitals.

Two months later, when his tutor went to the toilet, the boy followed, pushing the door open to enter the toilet. He initiated sex with the man, who then allowed the boy to perform oral sex on him. This was repeated four more times over the next three months.

On Monday, the tutor, who cannot be not named to protect the identity of the boy, was sentenced to six year's jail and six strokes of the cane.

However, in sentencing, High Court judge Kan Ting Chiu said this case was different from the typical sex abuse case in which the adult offender is the one who initiates the sex act. 'One peculiar fact is that the boy is the initiator,' said the judge.

Justice Kan sentenced him to three years' jail and three strokes of the cane on each of the two charges he had pleaded guilty to, with the two terms to run consecutively.

[HendryTan]

Alex Au/Yawningbread wrote about the above topic.

http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/after-sixteen-years-police-resort-to-entrapment-again/

The guy seems to be entrapped by police. According to the newspaper report quoted, he was charged for "behaving in an indecent manner in a public place". This does not seem to be the section 377a of the Penal code.

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After sixteen years, police resort to entrapment again

Published 13 July 2010

Together with some others interested in the same issue, I have been trying to keep a record of press reports of prosecutions related to gay sex. One thing I have noticed is that police entrapment of gay cruising has not been reported for at least 12 years, probably 16.

Until now. A recent report in the New Paper thus comes as a serious break in the pattern. A Malaysian was entrapped by a constable at a well-frequented cruising ground off busy Victoria Street.

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11 June 2010

The New Paper

Man gropes cop in cemetery

By Elysa Chen

On May 4, the police conducted an anti-vice operation at the old cemetery along Jalan Kubor, an area known for vice.

The police declined to to give details of the vice activities.

A plainclothes policeman was standing alone in a poorly lit spot when he was approached by Jagadiswaran Krisnan, 32, a coffee house supervisor, at about 10.40pm.

Jagadiswaran struck up a conversation with the undercover cop.

Two other police officers were stationed a short distance away, ready to provide help.

While talking to the officer, Jagadiswaran, a Malaysian, moved closer to him. He told the officer that he was there “to have fun”.

Then, he suddenly raised his hand and stroked the officer’s chest and private parts.

That was when the undercover cop identified himself and, with the help of his colleagues, arrested the man.

Jagadiswaran was charged with behaving in an indecent manner in a public place. He was fined $1,000 on Tuesday.

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Entrapment is a very problematic tactic in law enforcement; this is true whether we’re referring to drugs, espionage or sex. It always begs the question of whether the crime would have been committed if the undercover officer was not there in the first place. Entrapment generally starts from potentiality and converts it to reality, triggering an actus reus (action) when only the mens reus (intention) might have existed.

For example, we advise people to be careful and not flash jewelry when walking around areas with poverty, high unemployment or crime. Why do we feel such advice is pertinent? Because we can see the role that temptation plays in precipitating crime. When someone is foolish enough to walk about, dazzling others with bling-bling and then get robbed, many of us would ascribe partial responsibility to the person advertising the potential loot.

How different is this from an entrapment operation? What is the police’s responsibility in creating the crime?

More troubling is the possibility, mentioned in Alan Shadrake’s book, Once a Jolly Hangman, that undercover officers posing as narcotics buyers are known to prompt their sellers to supply larger and larger amounts of heroin till it gets above 15 grams, triggering the mandatory death penalty when caught. The book cites an unnamed insider source for this disclosure.

. . . that so angered the former CNB officer who assisted in some of my enquiries. ‘Encouraging the less fortunate to commit more serious crimes that result in them being hanged or jailed for impossibly long terms really appalled me’, he said . . .

– Once a Jolly Hangman, page 132

What this means is that even if we argue in certain cases that actus reus would have occurred without entrapment, it still begs the question of degree.

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In the next post, I will take the question further. I will critique the notion that sexual propriety should be enforced everywhere, even to the point of justifying entrapment. Should there not be spaces for sexual impropriety?

[Guest Just my opinion D:]

In his blog, Au claims that the police are again turning to entrapment, as in the above case, in what they call an anti-vice operation.

"Entrapment is a very problematic tactic in law enforcement; this is true whether we’re referring to drugs, espionage or sex. It always begs the question of whether the crime would have been committed if the undercover officer was not there in the first place. Entrapment generally starts from potentiality and converts it to reality, triggering an actus reus (action) when only the mens reus (intention) might have existed."

At first read, I agreed with how his example of how many people would attribute partial responsibility to one who flaunts his jewelry in a poverty-stricken, crime-prone area and subsequently gets it stolen.

But for me, the problem doesn't lie there. In his example, the jewelry-clad introduced the notion of potential moolah to the poor people in the context of their daily lives. The people there who had no previous intention to steal were given an impetus to do so. And suppose the police were the ones behind it (i.e. the one with with jewelry was working for them), then yes it would be a case of entrapment to me.

To keep it fair, the police apprehends every single criminal. So it does not matter whether the people stole from the fellow with the diamond ring set up by the police or some random guy who happened to stay at the hotel. Same for the groping case, it doesn't matter whether Jagadiswaran groped an undercover policeman or a gay man who went there for that very purpose. It is still a crime whether or not you were caught (correct me if I'm wrong*).

The issue is if there wasn't a guy to begin with; then he wouldn't have any guy to grope and hence no crime would have been committed. Not whether the policeman was there for him to grope. It was between any guy and no guy at all.*

But what if the poor people knew people with jewelry were going to stay at their village for the night and made the effort to move to an area nearer to the village's only hotel in wait for a chance to steal?

knew people with jewelry were going to stay at their village

knew people would go to the popular cruising place

made the effort to move to an area

made an effort to go down to the place

wait for a chance to steal

wait for a chance to cruise

Jagadiswaran obviously knew that that place was for cruising, went down for the purpose of cruising and groped a guy. For me, the intent is all there unlike the entrapment example where the poor people had no intention to steal until the the guy with the diamond ring showed up. This renders the undercover policeman's presence useless in saying that it caused J to want to commit a crime as J already had the intention of doing so. The undercover policeman's presence just facilitated his intention.

So we are left with (a) J had prior intention to grope someone and does it and (b) J had prior intention to grope someone but fails to as there is no one.

My real question is: To what extent does the law consider criminal intent to a be a crime? A murderer who failed to kill someone will still be charged, albeit for his murderous intent but not for murder.

* In the above, I have assumed that groping another guy, with or without consent, is a crime whether you are caught or not, which, in the case of an anti-vice operation, is probably the former. Let me know if I'm wrong.

[Guest Just my opinion D:]

Oh and this has nothing to do with 377A (:

Groping =/= Having sex

[HendryTan]

Oh and this has nothing to do with 377A (:

Groping =/= Having sex

Your're right! I wasn't thinking straight when I was typing that intro

Cheers !

[Guest guest]

I guessed it could be due to some public complaints about the activites there. SO the police has to take some action. I recalled something like tat happened at East Coast. However, there was a period (at east coast nudist beach) where the police conducted a raid. Must be some smart police head wanted to get some credit lor..

[Guest slinkYcaT]

Six years is a long time to spend - awfully shucks for him i must say. I am no no means an advocator of sex with a minor - i personally find it sick but i think the 9yo boy is equally at fault here, if not more.

I read with alarm how he waylaid the tutor in the toilet and then performed oral on the poor unsuspecting older man. Sex was on his mind - he had designs on his tutor all along! Surely, he is the aggressor, not a victim over here. And while the tutor gets time in jail, the boy gets ... sexual gratification.

Also, their much later sex encounters, are very much consensual - never forced upon. Never mind the age - the boy knew what he was doing and obviously he's sexually matured ( or rather promiscuous ) for his age. Scary berry.

If we are living in an ALLY McBEAL world, the boy would have been thrown to jail as well and force to do 1000 hours of community service. But alas we are not. Lesson here is, never ever have sex with horny boys - however badly they plead or beg.

xoxo

[Mandrake]

It is disgusting to see that we just carry on judging in ways that makes no sense with little exception due some old fashion values or rules. While the players and settings have all changed. Why is it that we can't judge on a case by case basis.

[GachiMuchi]

It is scary to read that a 9yo is already so sexually active and even behaves like an aggressor. I wonder how he would be like 10 or 20 years from now?

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[Guest Guest]

Can any doctor or psychiatrist here advise - how can a boy at such a young age to have sexual fantasies etc. and cause him into luring a much older man? Can a person be born with this "not normal" mental condition or this is caused by his previous "similar" encounters or exposure to such behaviour e.g. watching blue film etc. ? Just curious question and not to blame who's right who's wrong of this case.

I am really shocked when reading this news. I believe every child is like a piece of white paper and slowly this paper is stained with various colors from his various encounters/experiences as his grows.

[Guest same]

Can any doctor or psychiatrist here advise - how can a boy at such a young age to have sexual fantasies etc. and cause him into luring a much older man? Can a person be born with this "not normal" mental condition or this is caused by his previous "similar" encounters or exposure to such behaviour e.g. watching blue film etc. ? Just curious question and not to blame who's right who's wrong of this case.

I am really shocked when reading this news. I believe every child is like a piece of white paper and slowly this paper is stained with various colors from his various encounters/experiences as his grows.

Erm , I was not shocked , cos I was curious about that when I was around that age too. And my first experience was with another boy who was younger then me ( think I was 11 and he was 9 ). Also when in primary school , we already start to grab each other dicks for fun, but i always grab the cute guy I liked. Well, call me sick if you want but I guess I was curious. In fact , it was the younger kid who start touching me. It was a mutual things , but we only jerk each other off and try to suck abit. I was exposed to str8 pxxn when I was very young, maybe that is why I am curious and knows how to do those stuffs.

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I was exposed to str8 pxxn when I was very young, maybe that is why I am curious and knows how to do those stuffs.

Yup, I believe there is "something" to "trigger" your curiosity at that age. In your case, it was the str8 pxxno you had watched (at home ??).

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When I was around that age during the 60s, I had lots of fun with my school mates and the neighbour boys. So I am not surprised when I read this news.

I even "seduced" my older cousin who was around 17 when I was 11 years of age. We did lots of stuffs together, kissing, oral sex and later anal sex... This continued till he got married 10 years later. Now when we meet during his visit from America, he and his family migrated there, we never discussed about it. It was our little secret. I remember we did not talk at all during sex. Either he would jump into my bed or I would get into his bed.

He lived with my family and we shared the bedroom as his parents lived in Malaysia.

For me, it was innocent and a hell lots of fun.

What really worry me about this 'tution teacher" case is who decided to make the report? Did the young boy do a betrayal? Sure it's very wrong for the teacher to give in to his desire but the young boy wanted it too! This is not a rape situation.

I do feel if this happened in the 50s or 60s... it will be treated as a private matter. The parents would take matter in their own hand and handle the situation privately. they should then take note of their son behaviour and the teacher would be sacked and gotten a good scolding.

I may be wrong by saying this but there is certainly an over reaction in this matter!

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Can any doctor or psychiatrist here advise - how can a boy at such a young age to have sexual fantasies etc. and cause him into luring a much older man? Can a person be born with this "not normal" mental condition or this is caused by his previous "similar" encounters or exposure to such behaviour e.g. watching blue film etc. ? Just curious question and not to blame who's right who's wrong of this case.

I am really shocked when reading this news. I believe every child is like a piece of white paper and slowly this paper is stained with various colors from his various encounters/experiences as his grows.

Scary but its true, young boys can initiate adults into having sex.

I remember several years back I had the opportunity to do a documentary short-film about a Library. I was the presenter and the "father" of a ten-year old boy actor.

During the two days of filming, the young boy stood so close as to have body contact and kept on touching my pants, the groin area, the bums and even try to put his hand into my trouser pocket (I wore baggy pleated pants). Off-course, I pushed his hands away as I didn't want any legal problems and am not interested in youngsters, He was very intelligent and knew what he did was not right and he only did it when the crew and his mother were not watching.

It seems that some young people (below ten) already knew quite a bit about sex and can derive pleasure from it.

I think we adults have to be very careful as sometimes we can be carried-away and regret badly later.

Further more, there are some young boys who grew up with their single mother and desperately want to play-play with their

"father". More divorces means more boys "missing" their fathers". So be very careful.