icy_ter Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Hey dude, what is neh boys?i think he refer to "ah neh" boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neutral Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Wow, have you read anything more intelligent? So a person who does 2 sins is better than a person who does 3 sins? So you are ok to sin because there is always someone else who sins more?By the way, your sin examples a, b, and c are all against the law, against Christian morals, against traditional Chinese morals, and things your grandparents would frown upon. So because you engage in sin a and b and not c, makes sin c worse than everything else? What a convenient way to absolve yourself, Muscleworship!! I must get you to my deathbed to absolve my sins before I die, so I can go to heaven with you!!!I think you are pretty smart and right, to observe where the act is against where.In doing so, Muscleworship, has unknowingly, conjured a mockery, for bodybuilders, gym goers or gym/physical trainers, with one line in my mind" I am not very smart, but I can carry heavy things "....which includes himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Oops this is really terrible.Why should we subject ourselves to such humilation - arrested for "10 minutes of pleasure"?I sincerely hope fellow BWers never to indulge in such acts in public places.Go to a sauna... think Fabulous Blue Heaven is within walking distance from Mustafa Shopping Centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 These guests forget that their IP addresses are logged and the moderators are able to pull them out and surrender to the authorities should Stuart or his lawyers subpoena them for a legal suit.This is the best post in the entire thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superflawless Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 No its a very fair truth. Because all of us are not honest about ourselves.Infront of others we all want to appear agreeable, nice, wonderful, moralists and all those sorts of crap. But behind closed doors, we are all guilty of being hypocrites because we only present our goody image to others, while we have done things which we are very ashamed of.No, you know what's the real truth?Drugs are unnatural.It's man made.It's not part of mother nature.But homosexual sex, in fact all sex, is part of nature.You can't argue against gay sex other than to throw the Bible at me.But beyond moral grounds, gay sex is found in every single culture, in every single country. It's found in the Animal kingdom.But drug use? That's just stupid, irresponsible behavior.Do not equate drug use with sex to me.It's not the same thing to a lot of us.I have never used recreational drugs. Not even poppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superflawless Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Actually both were not caught red handed. Just together inside acubical. If they are not panic and just give a valid explanation ie. back pain need a rub. How can it be an offence??? Maybe both kena play out.I completely agree. Do not be so eager to whack the party out. Stay calm. Stay focus,and be smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thaiboyz Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Why need to expose oneself to such cheap thrill? There are many alternative venue to hv hot fun such as hotel, saunas and home:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laughable Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 No, you know what's the real truth?Drugs are unnatural.It's man made.It's not part of mother nature.But homosexual sex, in fact all sex, is part of nature.You can't argue against gay sex other than to throw the Bible at me.But beyond moral grounds, gay sex is found in every single culture, in every single country. It's found in the Animal kingdom.But drug use? That's just stupid, irresponsible behavior.Do not equate drug use with sex to me.It's not the same thing to a lot of us.I have never used recreational drugs. Not even poppers.If that is so, explain why Marijuana, Opium, Magic Mushrooms are illegal.They are organic products of nature.It only goes to show that people here are clueless about such stuff.Like Chelseasian said, at least do your research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest proper gay activist Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 That is the most dangerous thinking one could have. Does it mean that one can continue doing something wrong because no one is perfect? Indeed, it is wrong logic to say "no one is perfect and therefore we should not blame him"One more funny thing. Let's say Person A (i) downloads pxxn (ii) has sex with another man. He is still very much better than Person B who (i) downloads pxxn (ii) has sex with another man PLUS (iii) gets associated with drugs.Yes, even if having gay sex is wrong (it is not wrong even from some Christian perspectives!), it is still far better than one who abuse drugs. Having gay sex (even if wrong) is far better than raping someone. These are examples to illustrate the principle that "not all sins and not all wrongs are equal". Some wrongs deserve heavier condemnation and punishment. Who would be a better person to represent the gay community? Obvious isn't it?People like Alex Au (instead of those who are into drug-abuse) and organisation such as Oogachaga (instead of fridae)Oh btw, I do not consider setting a gay portal that requires payment to enjoy its full benefits a good deed. Neither do i consider organising gay parties for a price to pay good either. A set of good business ventures, maybe but to be really honest I have seen so many examples of guys without a fridae profile, without attending gay parties...Correct. Some of the people here need to understand that just because they and their circle of friends are routinely into sex parties, clubbing, using poppers and other substance does not mean that many other gays are doing the same thing. I too knows many gays who are not into such things. If he wants to do something good, he should (i) set up clinics to help promote safe sex (ii) set up counselling centers to assist with depressed gays but first and foremost, he should set up rehab centers for drug convicts. Well-said :thumb: :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Look at it this way gays, if SK were here in the US or some other country where consumption is legal, then what he did would not be considered illegal. The unfortunate reality is that he did it in Singapore, where by the law says it is wrong. Just as it is wrong in Singapore for 2 men to be engaged in homosexual sex. See Section 377A. Being law-abiding citizens I do think we have an obligation towards the law in terms of respect and obedience. Hence we should just all stay at home and wank off alone. What you make of your life is entirely up to you. Some gays choose to attend parties and have a good time, while others choose to focus their energies on things like needlework. It is all good. You can learn from each other instead of judging. Whoever represents the gay community it does not matter, because like the colours of the rainbow, the community is multi-faceted. You can represent the gays whoever you are: at work, at home, in school, in church etc. Does not matter. There are many successful people out there who are community leaders for the contribution and the work they have done, and being gay is just a tiny part of the picture. Keep an open mind and be nice. Edited September 24, 2010 by chelseasian Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswald Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Seriously, what could the authorities have done if the two guys claimed they were merely talking in the cubicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Featheric Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Look at it this way gays, if SK were here in the US or some other country where consumption is legal, then what he did would not be considered illegal. The unfortunate reality is that he did it in Singapore, where by the law says it is wrong. Just as it is wrong in Singapore for 2 men to be engaged in homosexual sex. See Section 377A. Being law-abiding citizens I do think we have an obligation towards the law in terms of respect and obedience. Hence we should just all stay at home and wank off alone. What you make of your life is entirely up to you. Some gays choose to attend parties and have a good time, while others choose to focus their energies on things like needlework. It is all good. You can learn from each other instead of judging. Whoever represents the gay community it does not matter, because like the colours of the rainbow, the community is multi-faceted. You can represent the gays whoever you are: at work, at home, in school, in church etc. Does not matter. There are many successful people out there who are community leaders for the contribution and the work they have done, and being gay is just a tiny part of the picture. Keep an open mind and be nice.Precisely. I completely agree.However, I fear that most people here will pull out the over-used slogan "we are a conservative society" as the final stand to their argument.This slogan created by the higher levels, rings through to the lower levels.They incriminate and restrict one another using it. They will not embrace diversity.Note: I used the word diversity and not chaos.The new age people already know that restrictions and oppressions gives birth to black-markets and retaliation respectively. The solution to restrictons is regulations and oppression is equal rights.It is just as they say, Singapore developed too fast for it's people.Most of them are lagging behind with closed minds. They can't see the implications and connections between things... they only see their own point and their own sufferings. That is why 377A still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Seriously, what could the authorities have done if the two guys claimed they were merely talking in the cubicle?2 guys together inside one toilet cubicle, talking? right ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswald Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 2 guys together inside one toilet cubicle, talking? right ... Well, there are no witnesses other than those involved so what concrete proof do the authorities have? The most they had seen would only have been 2 pairs of feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswald Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I mean if they had been pressed further, they could have said that they were comparing dick size or checking whether they had growths anywhere for each other. The law says nothing against that right? I believe a little imagination or creativity would have solved the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BiStock Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Once caught, the police will question the suspects separately. No way, they can come up with the same fake story unless they had conspire beforehand. The police will question them for hours, asking the same stuff over n over again. The thing abt lies is that they dun hold water n sooner or later, u will slip up n loopholes n cracks will appear in the fake story.Sooner or later, one of the suspect will crack n admit the truth. Or the police will tell one the other had admitted to the indecent acts so he better admit to get a lighter sentence etc.So its not as easy as to lie they were doing nothing in same cubicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imchaser Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I mean if they had been pressed further, they could have said that they were comparing dick size or checking whether they had growths anywhere for each other. The law says nothing against that right? I believe a little imagination or creativity would have solved the issue.Smart ass u think the authority have no experience handling all these cases? As soon as u two got reprimanded by the police/security u two will be not be allowed to talked to each other or will be separated, and police will ask questions separately.In another word u two will not have a chance to come out with a creative lie that will match agaisnt each others during the separate one on one session with the police.However, i do believe, that if u r first timer, u will be left off with a first warning. In this case, i think had the young guy not lied and accusing the other for molestation, both would have gone with a first stern warning.This is not based on real experience, it just im smart thats all. Quote Volunteering for the underwear association for third world countries. Please donate your used underwear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Oswald Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Haha. True. My bad. Have forgotten that the authorities here have lots of time doing things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BiStock Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 They can only blame themselves for their stupidity. Mustafa ? It is crowded at most times n the security there is super paranoid abt shoplifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neutral Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 No, you know what's the real truth?Drugs are unnatural.It's man made.It's not part of mother nature.But homosexual sex, in fact all sex, is part of nature.You can't argue against gay sex other than to throw the Bible at me.But beyond moral grounds, gay sex is found in every single culture, in every single country. It's found in the Animal kingdom.But drug use? That's just stupid, irresponsible behavior.Do not equate drug use with sex to me.It's not the same thing to a lot of us.I have never used recreational drugs. Not even poppers.Thats what you would like to think , from your little perspective, of how life should, and how good you like to think you are.On the other hand, the straights not only condemn drug use, they also look at you , and condemn you as a pervert and weirdo.Why? Because you are gay.That alone, gives them their right to condemn you, while you think too highly of yourself, as naturally good.But, nothing could be, as organic, and natural, as that pea brain of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Not about being gay Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Seems to me this whole discussion boils down to those who are pro-drugs versus those who are anti-drugs. Seems like the gay issue is secondary.There will be never ever be agreement and compromise between both parties, so everyone should just agree to disagree. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Huh Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 are u for real? drugs are not bad????!!!!You must either be in such denial regarding drug use or a blind supporter of SK to even think clearly any more. Don't make excuses for yourself or other people - drugs are evil, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azuchan Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 are u for real? drugs are not bad????!!!!You must either be in such denial regarding drug use or a blind supporter of SK to even think clearly any more. Don't make excuses for yourself or other people - drugs are evil, period.Paracetamol is a drug. So is chlorpheniramine. And penicillin, and amoxycillin. And codeineLook. The definition of a drug is something which is taken into the body to alter something in the body.People can, and have, develop addiction to paracetamol. Therefore it is not the drug itself which is evil. It is how one uses it (or in the context of the discussion) abuses it, which makes it evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muscleworship Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 After reading all these posts and how far fetched a person can blindly deceived oneself, I strongly believe there is no need for me to spend time and patience in this argument.My stand remains. He isn't the spokesperson I would respect or support in the past, present and the future. Whether he deserves the punishment or not is none of my business. All the best to those still happily swirling in their druggy world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 For those of u who tried to obfuscate the discussion with ridiculous examples of paracetamol and other drugs used for medication purposes, please don't insult our intelligence. Obviously the topic is on DRUG ABUSE and that is always bad. To be more specifically, we are talking about the growing problem of gay boys who take drugs to derive a "HIGH"....just as some people used to resort to GLUE SNIFFING for the same purpose. There is no defence or justification for drug abuse, just as there was no defence or justification for GLUE SNIFFING. Let's not try to act smart and talk about the analogy of "GLUE" being a generic product and not harmful in and of itself. Very clearly, we are talking about the problem of drug abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siow_Tar_po Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 They can only blame themselves for their stupidity. Mustafa ? It is crowded at most times n the security there is super paranoid abt shoplifting.Agree. Not only that, Mustafa has got the most smelly toilet I've ever been ! How on earth can these 2 guys do it inside ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uncle Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 In singapore, one is innocent until proven guilty, so let us not jump to conclusions.Having said that, if someone is indeed guilty of drug abuse, to me , there is no excuse. Yes, there are cases where patients develop a dependency on medication and it becomes a problem but we are not talking about that here.To those of you who are abusing drugs for sexual pleasure or "partying" purposes, STOP IT before the law catches up with you and destroys your life. Do not deceive yourself with silly excuses that drug use is ok because we take drugs for medication purposes. That is just self-deceiving. Wake up and face up to reality that you are a drug abuser and that there is simply no defence for doing so. Stop making excuses for drug abusers and seek help before it is too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Independent Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 YES, a good example is the Principal and Teacher. When "relationship" turned sour, he may go all out to destroy you.From Internet Sources:A male teacher says he has evidence that Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) principal, Dr Ong Teck Chin, “behaved inappropriately” towards him.According to The Straits Times, the teacher said he had e-mail, text messages and recordings to back up his claim.The teacher in question is believed to be in his 30s and has been a biology teacher with the school for more than three years.But late last year, his teaching load was reduced and a new position was created for him so he could work more closely with Dr Ong more in the capacity of a “personal aide”. ACS (I) principal Dr Ong, who is married with three children, stepped down over the weekend after 16 successful years in charge, prompting many to question his sudden decision.Two ACS boards — the board of governors as well as the board of management — are now investigating the teacher’s claims.When queried on the incident, Dr Ong would only say that it’s the right time for him to step down.He told The Straits Times, “I have been wanting to step down for a while. Do you know I had a bypass? Two years ago.”He went on to add, “I have done a lot for ACS and I want to move on. Do you know I am past my retirement age? I am 61 years old. It is time I took it easy.”Asked to comment on the ongoing investigation, he said,”Ask the ACS board. I don’t want to respond to any allegations.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I read from the net that the principal of ACS1 had to resign because the male teacher accused him of inappropriate action on him.In my opinon this is not fair to the principal after all it could be revenge from the male teacher if he was asking personal favours from the principal.I woner if MOE will take action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgdantan Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I read from the net that the principal of ACS1 had to resign because the male teacher accused him of inappropriate action on him.In my opinon this is not fair to the principal after all it could be revenge from the male teacher if he was asking personal favours from the principal.I woner if MOE will take action.ACSI is no longer an MOE school. It's an independent school. That's y only the the chairman of the board of governors was in the spotlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorcantona Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 I read from the net that the principal of ACS1 had to resign because the male teacher accused him of inappropriate action on him.In my opinon this is not fair to the principal after all it could be revenge from the male teacher if he was asking personal favours from the principal.I woner if MOE will take action.exactly it is YOUR opinion.pls if there is no truth in it, why would the teacher have evidence and threaten to expose it all? this is Singapore afterall, OTC has a lot of $$$$ to sue the teacher if he does not have any real evidence to back up his claims.of course, something must have happened!anyway, he is NOT the only teacher linked to OTC. i know of others hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panting Cheese Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Smart ass u think the authority have no experience handling all these cases? As soon as u two got reprimanded by the police/security u two will be not be allowed to talked to each other or will be separated, and police will ask questions separately.In another word u two will not have a chance to come out with a creative lie that will match agaisnt each others during the separate one on one session with the police.However, i do believe, that if u r first timer, u will be left off with a first warning. In this case, i think had the young guy not lied and accusing the other for molestation, both would have gone with a first stern warning.This is not based on real experience, it just im smart thats all."u two will not have a chance ...." hmmm since when did Oswald mention he was one of them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reverton Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 Once caught, the police will question the suspects separately. No way, they can come up with the same fake story unless they had conspire beforehand. The police will question them for hours, asking the same stuff over n over again. The thing abt lies is that they dun hold water n sooner or later, u will slip up n loopholes n cracks will appear in the fake story.Sooner or later, one of the suspect will crack n admit the truth. Or the police will tell one the other had admitted to the indecent acts so he better admit to get a lighter sentence etc.So its not as easy as to lie they were doing nothing in same cubicle.this is usually the case in red dot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 7, 2010 Report Share Posted October 7, 2010 See lah no matter how dangerous, if gay sure must touch another man. Pretend and hiding is no use. Gay is too powerful feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordinary Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Yeah, why the discrimination against gays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Yes you are right he is also involve with my friend he met him through the internet.Romantically he is link with alot of plus.With his status he dare not go to saunas but using internet dating to get to know contacts.Just heard he is admitted to hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkai Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 My feeling is that lesbianism is far more tolerated than gayism. If the two students caught were boys having oral sex (not even anal sex), I am certain the Penal Code Section 377A would be invoked against them. What do you think?I think you are right to say so. If two boys were to be involved, it will be even more sensationalised. Our society does tolerate lesbianism much more than gayism. Being a male-dominated society, gays are being ostracised more so than lebians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest confused Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I am a bit confused the male teacher Tan should have gone to the board to complaine against Ong instead of going to the media.Maybe the board asked him after he lodged the complaine and he is not satisfied so went to the media and exposed Ong.Any one know what was the fiction between Ong and Tan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Any one know what was the fiction between Ong and TanYou mean - Friction between them? causing by excessive rubbing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 more about this casehttp://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2010/10/05/mystery-surrounds-acs-i-principals-sudden-resignation/Must say this biology teacher looks good, would like to know more about his biology insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 How to find out how this teacher looks like? Any links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 you deserve it, i did the same thing to another married who i see for 3 months and can say i love u evenfxxk me raw a few times even and one day with no indication of ending fxxk me raw and disappeared from my lifei was totally heart brokeni totally seek revengei went to search for his flat and waited at his car, put all our photos n facts on it and his wife sawcall his nos when i know its his family day together every weekend until he got to change his nosi went to his church to look for him and told his wife who i m i went to his work place area where he always eat, i pour coffee over his clothes in front of his colleagues and told them this is the fxxking idiot who is a fxxking gay and yet so irresponsible and walk offnow i m happy, he is just like u , lost everything!guys, becareful who ppl like such ppl who toil your feeling!You deserve to be ditched !!! You fxxking evil bastard !!! DIRT SHIT go EAT SHIT AND DIE YOUNG !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SP Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Yes you are right he is also involve with my friend he met him through the internet.Romantically he is link with alot of plus.With his status he dare not go to saunas but using internet dating to get to know contacts.Just heard he is admitted to hospitalHe looks cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HendryTan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 The New Paper published this on 13/10/2010. Read in in Asia1.Ladyboys soliciting at Jurong West bus stophttp://www.asiaone.com/News/The%2BNew%2BPaper/Story/A1Story20101012-241897.htmlIT WAS past midnight, and some people were busy putting up decorations for a void-deck Malay wedding.Across the road, tired factory workers shuffled out of company buses to walk home to their flats.And from somewhere not too far off, cheering could be heard from coffee shop patrons watching a football telecast.All of which may be typical of HDB estates.What is unusual in this Jurong West Avenue 1 neighbourhood is the presence of a group of transvestite sex workers.Seven of them have used Block 490 as their "base".A bus stop in front of the block has been turned into a "pick up" point, where local men stop their cars and take the sex workers to secluded spots.From Sunday to Wednesday last week, this reporter noticed that taxis would drop the group off at the bus stop around 11pm.They would remain there till about 5am.After midnight, drivers would stop at the bus stop and pick up passengers. They would return roughly 30 minutes later with the transvestites.The transvestites wait at the bus stop for drivers to pull up. Then, they would step up to the cars and talk to the drivers.A man, acting as a lookout, waits at the block behind the bus stop. The transvestites occasionally go over and talk to him.When I drove to the bus stop, I was immediately greeted by a sex worker, who stepped up to the car window.Dressed in a low-cut dress, he was heavily made up and wore a wig of long hair with highlights. He also had a tattoo on his left shoulder."It's $30, but we have to drive to a quieter spot," said the transvestite in a deep voice.He said there was a dark heavy vehicles park near Block 474. Clients without cars would be led to a park nearby, he said.Sometimes, the transvestites "parade" on the opposite side of the road and wave at passing cars.Residents who have been putting up with these sex workers for two years are fed up.One resident who wanted to be known only as Mr Rajan called their behaviour disgusting.He recalled an incident a year ago when he had returned home late."I had alighted (at the bus stop) and one of them gave me a funny look," said Mr Rajan, who lives in Block 490 with his wife and son."Almost immediately, she (the transvestite) tried to hug me. What if my wife had seen the transvestite hugging me? Surely, I will have a lot of explaining to do."Now, Mr Rajan, 41, a marine industry worker, takes a detour whenever he spots the sex workers.If they try to approach him, Mr Rajan said he "will run away".A jogger, Mr Philip Lee, 27, is also disgusted by what is happening.He said he has stopped his midnight runs along a park connector near Block 490.ScareMr Lee was given a scare when he saw a man and "an even bigger transvestite coming out of the bushes"."My heart skipped a beat," said Mr Lee, a Jurong East resident.It's also hard to get a good night's sleep, said Mr Mahmud Haji Shuaib, 70, a retiree who has lived in Block 490 for 13 years.His bedroom window faces the bus stop."It gets rowdy, especially when they are drunk or when somebody cracks a joke," said Mr Mahmud."Even with my window closed, I can still hear them."There are other problems too.Tell-tale signs of the previous night's activities pepper the estate's grounds, neighbours said.There are half-eaten packets of food, beer bottles and soiled tissues.At the void deck, cigarette butts and empty drink packets litter the pathway near the front of a kindergarten.The transvestites' chain-smoking lookout sits a few steps from the kindergarten's doors.Mr Mahmud added: "You do not want the children who attend the kindergarten to pick up the disgusting things that these inconsiderate people leave behind."Why this place has become a favourite haunt of these people remains a mystery, said residents The New Paper spoke to.There are no pubs or nightclubs in the area.Said Mr Mahmud: "It's anyone's guess (why the transvestites congregate here). This is not Changi Village, where soliciting for such activities is common."Maybe they (the transvestites) are still here each night because nobody has made a complaint."A spokesman for the Jurong Town Council confirmed that nobody had made a complaint.Said general manager Ho Thian Poh: "We have not received feedback of any particular group causing nuisance or dirtying the surroundings of Block 490 Jurong West."On Thursday, when The New Paper contacted the kindergarten's management, it said there was a noticeable build-up of rubbish near the bus stop, but said the littering near its premises "was no cause for alarm".The area is cleaned before the students arrive, the school said.The police said residents are advised to notify them whenthey see any suspicious activities in the vicinity.A police spokesman said: "Police keep a close watch on the situation and will take the necessary action if criminal activities are detected."Mr Rajan just wants the transvestite sex workers out."They (transvestites) are attracting the wrong type of people into the estate and giving the impression that it's all right for such activities here."As a result, we are losing our privacy." Earlier transvestite nuisance in ChangiTHIS is not the first time transvestites have ventured close to people's homes.In April, The New Paper on Sunday reported that a group of them had chosen a quiet residential enclave in Changi to conduct their business.Their presence upset residents along Upavon Road - a 10-minute drive from Changi Village bus terminal.Each night, cars with fogged-up windows would briefly park outside residents' homes.Neighbours complained about soiled tissue papers and used condoms littering the estate's roads.One resident had told The New Paper then: "For goodness sake, please don't leave the aftermath for all to see by morning."There are many children cycling and playing hide-and-seek along this road in the daytime."Can you imagine how terrible it would be if they pick up the used condoms?"The resident, a graphic designer, decided to take matters into her own hands.She confronted suspicious cars that had entered the estate on three occasions.While two of the drivers and their passengers left without incident, the third driver was more defiant.The man, who looked to be in his 50s, engaged the resident in a shouting match.He even tried to scare her by revving his car's engine, but he left soon after. 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Mohd_Ben Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 Bet they won't be there anymore once this is in the news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest curious Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 So is he finally going to jail or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xdude Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 So is he finally going to jail or what?No news but he has been seen on dudesnude fairly often recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugues Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 So is he finally going to jail or what?Let's wish him well please ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Stuart Koe has a Pharmacy degree from University of Minnesota. It's a basic degree not a doctorate/PhD which Minnesota also offers. His degree is no different from the Pharmacy degree in NUS, except they call it a Pharmacy D. there and a B.Sc. here. He graduated in 1995 and he's 38 this year which means he obtained his degree at 23. Not a Ph.D for sure. Certainly not over-educated.Not true. He has a Bachelors in Science as well, which is the basic degree offered at all Colleges of Pharmacy in the US. In Singapore, PharmD's are also recognised as specialists in particular fields - you can check with NUS or the Pharmaceutical Society of Singapore. My cousin is a pharmacist - he verified that Stuart was one of only 3 Pharm D's in Singapore in the 90's. There are more now, but it's still a rarefied field. Both in Singapore and the US, PharmD's are treated with a great deal of respect. In the US where the clinical Doctorate originated, PharmD's even have prescribing authority and work alongside physicians in particular settings such as critical care (ICU's) where in depth knowledge about a wide range of drugs is required - something that doctors don't have.Ask any pharmacist and they can verify this information for you.Those of you here who keep harping on this are either 1. have too much time on your hands (in which case - go get a job or do something useful with your time)2. gossipy old ladies (cannot help you here - good luck for you)3. can't seem to accept that Stuart might actually have a post graduate degree (probably because you don't have one yourself, and you're jealous of everyone who has one)Your pettiness is just laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 No news but he has been seen on dudesnude fairly often recently. In his line of work, he can be on all the gay sites, even Grindr, during working hours, and pass it off as "market research".What's your excuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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