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All of us will be old and lonely one day. When we reach this stage, don't go around molesting younger guys. If You are still sexually active, as seniors, the only outlet is commercial sex.  start saving. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Guest said:

All of us will be old and lonely one day. When we reach this stage, don't go around molesting younger guys. If You are still sexually active, as seniors, the only outlet is commercial sex.  start saving. 

 

 

Alternatively, go commit some crime, get sent to jail for life and get freebies. You get fed too, don't have to worry about saving for retirement.

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26 minutes ago, Kopio said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, the victim 18yo ??? Not 8 yo ????

 

He could have walked out the house anytime he felt uncomfortable or violated. 

 

Talk to his mother and police was informed by his mother after? This boy is 8yo lah!

 

I know what you mean  LOL

 

It does sound like this boy is very sheltered or over-protected by the mother. Probably that's why in that situation, he wasn't able to sense anything amiss sooner or react more promptly.

 

A more street-smart teen might have not accepted the invitation to go to the house for a massage in the first place.

 

Also, there's no mention of the boy's father. It appears like the mum is playing the dad's role by taking charge of the situation. Dad not present in the boy's life?

 

Maybe that's why the boy craves a fatherly figure in his life, and hence it made him more vulnerable to the older man's manipulation?

 

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3 hours ago, Guest said:

It's a trend for seniors to become molesters and murderers these days. The governemnt needs to do more to appease these gods before more of them starts to molest, rape and kill others. Lol

don't forget you will grow old one day....

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10 hours ago, Guest said:

yah, so far no reported case of young guy molested old uncle. However, many unreported cases of old aunties molested young guys.

 

In fact, there was one case back in 2007 where a 34-years old man would take taxis late at night, then pretend to buy coffee for the taxi driver.

 

He would spike the coffee, so once the taxi driver had fallen asleep, he would molest them.

 

He did this to four taxi drivers before he was caught. All four victims were men in their 50s!

 

 

http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/today20070404-1.2.9.6.aspx

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wong might be old enough to know what he was doing, but the so called victim is not exactly a child! he wanted to be served but cried wolf later... he is  responsible for what happened as much as the wong!

 

i met so many of these kind of shitty young men... so confused and also in denial... when they were horny they seduced... after being served, they felt guilty, emotionally weak, can't handle it and then go to mother and/or police to cry rape! these are the worst kind! utter cowards! 

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I choose to believe the victim has misplaced his trust on a church mate whom he thought he could trust.

 

Even if the victim is a horny gay, y would he pick someone old enough to be his grandpa. At his age, he can easily find anywhere.

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

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37 minutes ago, mith said:

wong might be old enough to know what he was doing, but the so called victim is not exactly a child! he wanted to be served but cried wolf later... he is  responsible for what happened as much as the wong!

 

i met so many of these kind of shitty young men... so confused and also in denial... when they were horny they seduced... after being served, they felt guilty, emotionally weak, can't handle it and then go to mother and/or police to cry rape! these are the worst kind! utter cowards! 

 

Next time,must prepare an agreement  - read and signed.  "I..........of legal age, hereby have read, understood and consent, without prejudice or malice... 

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The focus is on the criminal act, which is molestation not how old the guy was.

How old the perpetrator was is not the main point here.

It would have been a criminal act regardless of age.

Stop agesim
 

22 hours ago, Guest AJ Boy Boy said:

Old and deprived. Already saw a couple old and elderly standing at Clementi MRT urinals a while ago.  I was so scared I quickly poo poo and ran away.

 

 

22 hours ago, Guest said:

It's a trend for seniors to become molesters and murderers these days. The governemnt needs to do more to appease these gods before more of them starts to molest, rape and kill others. Lol

 

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Was it consensual?

What if the massage was consensual but the act was not?

And what if Wong stopped immediately after the victim said no.

Would Wong still be wrong since he did not force the victim to have sex with him?

Or should we also consider our archaic law of 377A in the whole scheme of things?

 

Many men have tried to molest me.

But when I told them no, they stopped.

You don't see me ringing up the police every time this happens.

 

Plus this is a clear case of "He said, he said."

Who can tell what really happened in that room. As long as Wong denies and maintains his innocence, there really is no evidence that the act was not consensual and/or anything inappropriate happened. If Wong really wants to fight and win his case, he should engage a good competent lawyer to debunk the victim's one sided story. 

I am playing the Devil's Advocate with regards to this story.

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3 hours ago, superflawless said:

Was it consensual?

What if the massage was consensual but the act was not?

And what if Wong stopped immediately after the victim said no.

Would Wong still be wrong since he did not force the victim to have sex with him?

Or should we also consider our archaic law of 377A in the whole scheme of things?

 

Many men have tried to molest me.

But when I told them no, they stopped.

You don't see me ringing up the police every time this happens.

 

Plus this is a clear case of "He said, he said."

Who can tell what really happened in that room. As long as Wong denies and maintains his innocence, there really is no evidence that the act was not consensual and/or anything inappropriate happened. If Wong really wants to fight and win his case, he should engage a good competent lawyer to debunk the victim's one sided story. 

I am playing the Devil's Advocate with regards to this story.

 

Many men have tried to molest you? Like HOW? You must be talking in a sauna scenario i reckon. In that case, all of us are victims of molestations in one way or another ..

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10 hours ago, mith said:

wong might be old enough to know what he was doing, but the so called victim is not exactly a child! he wanted to be served but cried wolf later... he is  responsible for what happened as much as the wong!

 

i met so many of these kind of shitty young men... so confused and also in denial... when they were horny they seduced... after being served, they felt guilty, emotionally weak, can't handle it and then go to mother and/or police to cry rape! these are the worst kind! utter cowards! 

 

Not just gay guys, straight ones are the same! Seduce for fun or act innocent?! It's the immature and kiasi mindset of Singaporeans!

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On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 4:33 PM, Guest said:

It's a trend for seniors to become molesters and murderers these days. The governemnt needs to do more to appease these gods before more of them starts to molest, rape and kill others. Lol

Hello, it's me (again). Fortunately this 55-year old does not indulge in molesting younger people.  As a matter of fact, I keep my minimum age limit to 35.  I have absolutely ZERO interest in late teens and early 20s.  They may have the body and looks but one man's meat is another man's poison (or poisson, French word for fish).  Yes there may be a few who would prefer "spring" chicken and do silly things.  I believe it is just the minority as the media tend to "overtly-published" such cases.

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"Wong invited the victim to his house for a drink. There, Wong asked the victim if he wanted a massage as the victim had complained his legs were tired after a badminton match with friends earlier in the day."

 

Wong offered. Victim did not ask.

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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To answer some questions here:

 

Wong pleaded guilty to his offence. And he came clean that he had molested the 18yo guy during a police interview a day after the act of molestation.

 

An act of molestation in this case was not consensual. Now, Wong could have asked for a trial if he believed he did not molest the guy. But he pleaded guilty. So, in the eyes of the law, no ifs, no buts, he did it.

 

Especially he admitted to the statement of facts that were read out to him in court. You with me so far? :)

 

Apparently, one of the main issues of this case was that the teenager knew Wong from church.

 

And Wong knew the guy's family as well. As an older man, who is in a way, an acquaintance of the whole family, the teenager perhaps, did not think twice about tagging along to the old dude's place. Cos I mean, Wong is an old man who is a church goer at that and he knows the kid's family.

 

So, now it was not a case of "he said, the other dude said something else". Wong admitted to the offence even b4 he came to court. And he admitted again before the judge.

 

And no Section 377A was not involved in this case, cos it seems to be Section 354A of the penal code, from the sounds of it - outrage of modesty.

 

Hope this helps. :)

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, fab said:

 

 

"Wong invited the victim to his house for a drink. There, Wong asked the victim if he wanted a massage as the victim had complained his legs were tired after a badminton match with friends earlier in the day."

 

Wong offered. Victim did not ask.

 

The victim complained to Wong that his legs were tired (a prelude).  Wong then offered victim a massage and victim willingly accepted the offer. 

 

Unfortunately, Wong misinterpreted victim willingness as a prelude to something more.  What victim wanted was a good, plain massage to soothe his aching muscles.

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Nowadays have daughters must worry have sons also must worry.

 

:D

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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4 minutes ago, Guest Guest111 said:

I personally saw some guy peeping and using phone to record people bathing from the reflection of water from the floor. 

 

Like this also shiok?

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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What about those who wanna watch those video?

 

:P

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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i actually saw the FB post but im not sure if it's convenient to post it here. the guy who was filmed has really quite a hot body and was an officer in the SAF (from what i saw on his FB profile). no wonder ppl was so tempted to film him in all his glory during his morning shower 

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There r so many cute guys threads around. 

鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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The guy being filmed looks quite gay where got unattractive? He must have felt flattered by another male's sexual attention and couldn't wait to publicise it! 

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