Guest Besafe Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 "Death sentence" for the victim. Safe sex rules ! Be safe and be aware. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/two-years-jail-for-hiv-positive-man-who-failed-to-inform-sex-partner-about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blank Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 So lazy to paste the full article here? SINGAPORE: A 29-year-old man was jailed for two years on Wednesday (Aug 1) for having sex with a man without telling him that he ran the risk of contracting HIV infection from him.The man, who cannot be named due to a gag order, had been previously diagnosed with HIV infection - a virus which attacks the immune system. There is currently no cure for HIV infection, only treatment that suppresses the replication of the virus, delaying its spread and the onset of AIDS. Court documents did not reveal when the accused received the diagnosis. After testing positive for the human immunodeficiency virus, he was counselled by an officer from the National Public Health Unit, Ms Fiona Lee.Ms Lee testified that she had advised the accused to inform his sex partners of his HIV-positive status if he wanted to engage in any sexual activity, so that his partners would be aware of the risk of HIV infection. Despite this, the accused went on to have sex with a man on five or six occasions between 2012 and 2013 at his own home.The accused did not inform the victim, whom he met online, about the risk of contracting HIV virus.The victim found out that his partner was HIV-positive only in 2015, after the investigating officer informed him about it, and testified that he would not have had sex with the accused if he had known about his HIV status. The prosecution asked for a sentence of at least 24 months' jail. "While advancements in the treatment of HIV infection via anti-retroviral therapy mean that it is no longer the death sentence it used to be, HIV infection is an incurable, serious and life-changing disease, which still could result in fatality," said the prosecution.District Judge Chay Yuen Fatt sentenced the man to 24 months' jail.The man, who was represented by defence lawyers Remy Choo and Priscilla Chia, appealed against his conviction and sentence. He could have been jailed for up to 10 years and fined up to S$50,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blank Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Hiv people should abstained from sex and stop spreading diseases. Don't even do it with your bf as he might have fun with casual strangers. I can't imagine having hiv and have to take medicine for the rest of life. Not forgetting many unforeseen illness to worsen due to a poorer immune system. Not discriminating them but it's the best for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mate69 Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Guest Blank said: Hiv people should abstain from sex and stop spreading diseases. Don't even do it with your bf as he might have fun with casual strangers. I can't imagine having hiv and have to take medicine for the rest of life. Not forgetting many unforeseen illness to worsen due to a poorer immune system. Not discriminating them but it's the best for everyone. HIV people have needs too, no? Isn't it unreasonable and unrealistic to demand that they abstain from sex? How about their sexual needs? What's more important is that they practise safe sex each and every time and inform their partners beforehand. Responsible sexual behaviour - and this applies to both neg and poz folks - goes a far longer way instead. Time is NOW, Hotspunk and PozforTop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blank Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, mate69 said: HIV people have needs too, no? Isn't it unreasonable and unrealistic to demand that they abstain from sex? How about their sexual needs? What's more important is that they practise safe sex each and every time and inform their partners beforehand. Responsible sexual behaviour - and this applies to both neg and poz folks - goes a far longer way instead. Can use sex toy instead to release his needs. You never know his bf could go sauna or grindr to hook up men... No condom is 100% safe. For me, I don't have sex with active strangers so I'm relatively 90% safe. I may sound harsh, but you never know when you could be the next hiv victim when sleeping around casually with someone, who might have slept with someone's someone having hiv without checking clear of window period etc Prevention is better than cure. This has always been advocated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 There's always the option for poz on poz sex, no? Why do they have to abstain, how can they? We're all still human beings. And who comes into a thread about HIV and goes saying stuff like "Prevention is better than cure." It says a lot about you. The point here is treatment as prevention. It's next to impossible to catch the virus when he's on meds and has his viral load on undetectable levels. Not saying anyone should just go around sleeping with poz folks who are actually monitoring their condition but at least be informed before passing comments that are fearmongering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You are prudish and mean Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Guest Blank said: Can use sex toy instead to release his needs. You never know his bf could go sauna or grindr to hook up men... No condom is 100% safe. For me, I don't have sex with active strangers so I'm relatively 90% safe. I may sound harsh, but you never know when you could be the next hiv victim when sleeping around casually with someone, who might have slept with someone's someone having hiv without checking clear of window period etc Prevention is better than cure. This has always been advocated. Then you should also observe abstinence since you said you are not 100% safe yourself. Walk the talk, don’t just blabber irresponsible nonsense online. You should go be good friends with Pan Ling Ling and David Gan, so mean and judgemental! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratos Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Glyph said: There's always the option for poz on poz sex, no? Why do they have to abstain, how can they? We're all still human beings. And who comes into a thread about HIV and goes saying stuff like "Prevention is better than cure." It says a lot about you. The point here is treatment as prevention. It's next to impossible to catch the virus when he's on meds and has his viral load on undetectable levels. Not saying anyone should just go around sleeping with poz folks who are actually monitoring their condition but at least be informed before passing comments that are fearmongering. There are different strains of HIV. So even if it's poz on poz, please still use protection as it might blow up to be a superinfection. Some strains are drug resistant as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_superinfection I feel at the very least if sex is on the table, please be open even if it's undetectable load. The other party deserve to know. Who knows when was the last test done and maybe someone skip the medication after that test? I know of people who choose not to disclose just because they want to get laid with the hot guys. Seriously, new HIV infections are overwhelmingly gay males. Close to 80% or more. I feel like our community just want sex and is closing our eyes so that we can get fucked (literally and figuratively) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 @kratos I know, safe sex regardless of HIV status. And blips can occur even if there's due diligence on ART so the risk is always present. I mentioned poz on poz cause it's an easier option considering how there's already basic mutual understanding. No matter how some try to sugarcoat things (like how a guest above went "Not discriminating them but..."), the stigma on HIV is real. Some folks actually still believe it can be transmitted through sharing a spoon and won't even sit down for a meal with a HIV+ person. What then? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. At the end of the day, I wouldn't be surprised if some of us here have actually slept with a poz, remained negative and never knew the truth. *Not saying that it's okay for HIV-positive people to break the law. Must inform prior to sex, 'kay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 1, 2018 Report Share Posted August 1, 2018 Sad to read this. The best way for HIV+ patients is to continue the medication as prescribed by the doctors. Don't skip it. Sex, there are many alternatives to physical contact without another person. Go back to the basic of watching porn. Very soon, the patient will get jaded and lost his sexual appetite altogether. Song of the day: 江蕙的伤心酒店里的名句-有爱也罢 无爱嘛快活 今夜伴阮是孤单 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 correct me if i am wrong, but an undetectable status will be safe for playing already. so all HIV+ patients should strive for undetectable status, right? unless there is another perspective/POV i am missing here... Quote 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, tomcat said: correct me if i am wrong, but an undetectable status will be safe for playing already. so all HIV+ patients should strive for undetectable status, right? unless there is another perspective/POV i am missing here... But you still have folks who don't understand what UVL is all about and goes on about abstinence, or just thinks all poz guys are irresponsible pricks. Hurhur.. long way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Glyph said: But you still have folks who don't understand what UVL is all about and goes on about abstinence, or just thinks all poz guys are irresponsible pricks. Hurhur.. long way to go. Well, for those who might not have the chance to learn more, the key take away is undetectable = untransmittable UVL = Undetectable Viral Loadhttps://endinghiv.org.au/treat-early/about-undetectable/ i think rather than ostracising or shaming HIV+ patients, we should come together to help and see how to make them achieve Undetectable Viral Load status. PozforTop, fourth and mate69 2 1 Quote 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourth Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 undetectable viral load = not transmittable. unprotected sex with someone with UVL is safer than with someone whom you don't know about their HIV status at all. Peterjty, Fit4Masc, Time is NOW and 1 other 4 Quote +65 9090 four four nine six (WA), fourthandthird (Line) Behind Tiong Bahru Plaza $80 / hr - tui na + minor fixing + bone setting $35 (approx 12 mins + -) - 抓根 Zhua Gen ($5 bundling discount applies when done with any other service) $55 flat rate - treatment of lower back / disc herniation issues. Add $5 for additional area. Glide cupping 走罐 - $15 $36 bonesetting-and-go (5 - 10 mins) Daily 10am to 10pm last appt but please text in advance. Special early / ultra late appts are possible, just book in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube3 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 16 hours ago, Guest Blank said: Can use sex toy instead to release his needs. You never know his bf could go sauna or grindr to hook up men... No condom is 100% safe. For me, I don't have sex with active strangers so I'm relatively 90% safe. I may sound harsh, but you never know when you could be the next hiv victim when sleeping around casually with someone, who might have slept with someone's someone having hiv without checking clear of window period etc Prevention is better than cure. This has always been advocated. There are many other diseases you can catch even with condom, including antibiotic-resistant STDs, exotic bacteria that cause necrotic tissues (google Transavia flight) and chronic ailments like Hep C etc. Not just "active strangers": you should stop having sex with anyone. Yes, Guest Blank, pse go back to sex toys, so you don't end up becoming a perpetrator too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 钟楚红 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Now you guys know why I have been a Virgin all my life. Who's fault was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest#1 Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 5 hours ago, Guest 钟楚红 said: Now you guys know why I have been a Virgin all my life. Who's fault was it? Then you'll die as a virgin. Condom works. PrEP works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 赖依玲 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 11:40 PM, Guest Blank said: Can use sex toy instead to release his needs. You never know his bf could go sauna or grindr to hook up men... No condom is 100% safe. For me, I don't have sex with active strangers so I'm relatively 90% safe. I may sound harsh, but you never know when you could be the next hiv victim when sleeping around casually with someone, who might have slept with someone's someone having hiv without checking clear of window period etc Prevention is better than cure. This has always been advocated. On 8/1/2018 at 11:04 PM, Guest Blank said: Hiv people should abstained from sex and stop spreading diseases. Don't even do it with your bf as he might have fun with casual strangers. I can't imagine having hiv and have to take medicine for the rest of life. Not forgetting many unforeseen illness to worsen due to a poorer immune system. Not discriminating them but it's the best for everyone. 绿茶婊 spotted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 处女红 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 4:20 PM, Guest 钟楚红 said: Now you guys know why I have been a Virgin all my life. Who's fault was it? Now I know, you scare you pass disease to your partner and get sued. You smart. Otherwise you jail bird already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 处女红 Posted August 5, 2018 Report Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 7:42 AM, abang said: Sad to read this. The best way for HIV+ patients is to continue the medication as prescribed by the doctors. Don't skip it. Sex, there are many alternatives to physical contact without another person. Go back to the basic of watching porn. Very soon, the patient will get jaded and lost his sexual appetite altogether. Song of the day: 江蕙的伤心酒店里的名句-有爱也罢 无爱嘛快活 今夜伴阮是孤单 You are a slut who let Ang Mo gan....you advising others on this matter is really a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Not fair Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 The best punishment would actually be for the offender to foot all the medical treament and bills of the victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 我当然不是万人插。。。我已经停止个类性行为3 年半。 自我2015 年尾开始, 我只有看的分。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Glyph Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Guest Not fair said: The best punishment would actually be for the offender to foot all the medical treament and bills of the victim. You're missing the point here. The accused is being charged for not informing prior to sex and not for transmitting the disease, nowhere in the article says the victim is HIV+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YELLOW BIRD Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Married man who sexually assaulted male tenant gets 6 years' jail, caning SINGAPORE: A married man who sexually assaulted another man who was living in his flat was sentenced to six years' jail and caning on Thursday (Aug 23). Waduge Buddhika Upashantha Fernando, a 38-year-old Singaporean of Sri Lankan descent, is married with three children and lives in a flat in Kim Keat Avenue. The victim was a 28-year-old Malaysian working in Singapore as a cook. He cannot be identified due to a gag order. On the day of the assault in November last year, he had been a tenant at the flat for about four months, the court heard. His usual routine meant that he left the flat at 9am and returned only at 11pm, and he had little interaction with Fernando and his family. At about 11.30pm on Nov 10 last year, the victim returned to the flat and had a shower. He then went to his room, closing the door and going to bed at about 1am. About two hours later, Fernando returned home from work. He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity", court documents said. He knew that his tenant was sleeping, and entered his room where the victim was asleep in a pair of shorts. Fernando then knelt on the floor, removed the victim's shorts and performed a sexual act on him. After about 10 minutes, the victim woke up and realised what was happening. He also felt Fernando rubbing against his shin. Instinctively, he yelled and kicked at Fernando, who left the room and the flat. The victim was shocked and did not know how to react. Within the hour, he sent a message to the police hotline asking for assistance. Fernando pleaded guilty to one charge of sexual assault by penetration. ACCUSED VIOLATED VICTIM IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF WAYS: PROSECUTION Deputy Public Prosecutor Marshall Lim called Fernando's conduct "shocking", asking for at least eight years' jail and four strokes of the cane. He said that "sexual intimacy involving penetration by or of sexual organs is the closest form of physical human intimacy that may be enjoyed between two individuals". "Because of the intimate nature of contact, parties must consent to engaging in sexual intimacy. In cases where one party has not consented, he or she is also violated in the most intimate of ways," said the prosecutor, adding that this is made worse when the violation takes place in the home, where a person can expect to be safe. Fernando's defence counsel had asked for a custodial term of five years' jail, which the prosecutor called "wholly inadequate". District Judge Kessler Soh sentenced him to six years' jail and three strokes of the cane. He could have been jailed for up to 20 years, fined or caned. REALLY NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. LESS THAN 10 MINUTE OF HAPPINESS - EXCHANGE FOR 6 YEARS JAIL AND 3 STROKES HOW IS HE GOING TO FACE HIS FAMILIES AND FRIENDS! SO MANY HAD IT FOR FREE, HE PAID SUCH A HIGH PRICE!!! Edited August 23, 2018 by YELLOW BIRD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CHENAI Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 SINGAPORE: A married man who sexually assaulted another man who was living in his flat was sentenced to six years' jail and caning on Thursday (Aug 23). Waduge Buddhika Upashantha Fernando, a 38-year-old Singaporean of Sri Lankan descent, is married with three children and lives in a flat in Kim Keat Avenue. Advertisement The victim was a 28-year-old Malaysian working in Singapore as a cook. He cannot be identified due to a gag order. On the day of the assault in November last year, he had been a tenant at the flat for about four months, the court heard. His usual routine meant that he left the flat at 9am and returned only at 11pm, and he had little interaction with Fernando and his family. At about 11.30pm on Nov 10 last year, the victim returned to the flat and had a shower. He then went to his room, closing the door and going to bed at about 1am. About two hours later, Fernando returned home from work. He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity", court documents said. He knew that his tenant was sleeping, and entered his room where the victim was asleep in a pair of shorts. Fernando then knelt on the floor, removed the victim's shorts and performed a sexual act on him. After about 10 minutes, the victim woke up and realised what was happening. He also felt Fernando rubbing against his shin. Instinctively, he yelled and kicked at Fernando, who left the room and the flat. The victim was shocked and did not know how to react. Within the hour, he sent a message to the police hotline asking for assistance. Fernando pleaded guilty to one charge of sexual assault by penetration. ACCUSED VIOLATED VICTIM IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF WAYS: PROSECUTION Deputy Public Prosecutor Marshall Lim called Fernando's conduct "shocking", asking for at least eight years' jail and four strokes of the cane. He said that "sexual intimacy involving penetration by or of sexual organs is the closest form of physical human intimacy that may be enjoyed between two individuals". "Because of the intimate nature of contact, parties must consent to engaging in sexual intimacy. In cases where one party has not consented, he or she is also violated in the most intimate of ways," said the prosecutor, adding that this is made worse when the violation takes place in the home, where a person can expect to be safe. Fernando's defence counsel had asked for a custodial term of five years' jail, which the prosecutor called "wholly inadequate". District Judge Kessler Soh sentenced him to six years' jail and three strokes of the cane. He could have been jailed for up to 20 years, fined or caned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Guest Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why was his sentence so hash? Was it because he was gay? Will we be jailed if we are caught having sex? Example...if our housemate know I am having sex with a man in my private room and he make a police report, will I be arrested, jailed and caned? Someone please enlighten me as I am very worried about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Why was his sentence so hash? Was it because he was gay? Will we be jailed if we are caught having sex? Example...if our housemate know I am having sex with a man in my private room and he make a police report, will I be arrested, jailed and caned? Someone please enlighten me as I am very worried about this. Yes, possible Yes cane and jailed penal code 377A applies, two men cannot hv sex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Same same but not the same Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Why was his sentence so hash? Was it because he was gay? Will we be jailed if we are caught having sex? Example...if our housemate know I am having sex with a man in my private room and he make a police report, will I be arrested, jailed and caned? Someone please enlighten me as I am very worried about this. He’s now a Singaporean and a commoner like most people, so hash sentence after 1 year. If he is ang mo CEO earning big bucks, then he can plead leniency because he lost his highly paid job due to this case = enough punishment, he showed remorseful, blah blah blah..... then ?! How about the case that happened long ago involving a foreigner MNC Director, dragging on for 3 years liao. Wait and see the outcome if there’s any caning to him. Any want to bet? https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/mnc-ceo-found-guilty-sexually-assaulting-sons-9-year-old-friend http://theindependent.sg/foreign-talent-ceo-on-trial-for-sexually-assaulting-9-year-old-faces-fresh-charges-for-sexually-abusing-another-young-boy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINKYMALAY Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, YELLOW BIRD said: Married man who sexually assaulted male tenant gets 6 years' jail, caning SINGAPORE: A married man who sexually assaulted another man who was living in his flat was sentenced to six years' jail and caning on Thursday (Aug 23). Waduge Buddhika Upashantha Fernando, a 38-year-old Singaporean of Sri Lankan descent, is married with three children and lives in a flat in Kim Keat Avenue. The victim was a 28-year-old Malaysian working in Singapore as a cook. He cannot be identified due to a gag order. On the day of the assault in November last year, he had been a tenant at the flat for about four months, the court heard. His usual routine meant that he left the flat at 9am and returned only at 11pm, and he had little interaction with Fernando and his family. At about 11.30pm on Nov 10 last year, the victim returned to the flat and had a shower. He then went to his room, closing the door and going to bed at about 1am. About two hours later, Fernando returned home from work. He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity", court documents said. He knew that his tenant was sleeping, and entered his room where the victim was asleep in a pair of shorts. Fernando then knelt on the floor, removed the victim's shorts and performed a sexual act on him. After about 10 minutes, the victim woke up and realised what was happening. He also felt Fernando rubbing against his shin. Instinctively, he yelled and kicked at Fernando, who left the room and the flat. The victim was shocked and did not know how to react. Within the hour, he sent a message to the police hotline asking for assistance. Fernando pleaded guilty to one charge of sexual assault by penetration. ACCUSED VIOLATED VICTIM IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF WAYS: PROSECUTION Deputy Public Prosecutor Marshall Lim called Fernando's conduct "shocking", asking for at least eight years' jail and four strokes of the cane. He said that "sexual intimacy involving penetration by or of sexual organs is the closest form of physical human intimacy that may be enjoyed between two individuals". "Because of the intimate nature of contact, parties must consent to engaging in sexual intimacy. In cases where one party has not consented, he or she is also violated in the most intimate of ways," said the prosecutor, adding that this is made worse when the violation takes place in the home, where a person can expect to be safe. Fernando's defence counsel had asked for a custodial term of five years' jail, which the prosecutor called "wholly inadequate". District Judge Kessler Soh sentenced him to six years' jail and three strokes of the cane. He could have been jailed for up to 20 years, fined or caned. REALLY NOT WORTH IT AT ALL. LESS THAN 10 MINUTE OF HAPPINESS - EXCHANGE FOR 6 YEARS JAIL AND 3 STROKES HOW IS HE GOING TO FACE HIS FAMILIES AND FRIENDS! SO MANY HAD IT FOR FREE, HE PAID SUCH A HIGH PRICE!!! Agree, definitely not worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Penal Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Lumbakuda said: Whao then what r the guys doing in the saunas? yoga or prayers is it? Section 377A of the Penal Code had stated that “any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to two years.” This clause was retained in the same 2007 Penal Code review.9 Whether the act was performed privately or publicly was not relevant in the eyes of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suckmegood Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 “He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity"“ It must be a sudden calling.... hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auri Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 The price he had to pay for his crime is way too high. Silly lawmakers in S G P! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 The msian was penetrated for 10 mins without knowing? Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooray! Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Guest CHENAI said: "Because of the intimate nature of contact, parties must consent to engaging in sexual intimacy. All along I thought gay sex is a crime. It sounds so promsing that the court felt 2-consenting males can now enjoy sexual intimacy with no fear of persecution. Does it mean S377A is going to be repealed pretty son? Hooray!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Guest guest said: Yes, possible Yes cane and jailed penal code 377A applies, two men cannot hv sex This send me chills and I am utterly shaken to my core!! This will definately make me be aware of my surroundings especially when U have sex. I do not want a situation where someone call the police when they know I am having sex and the police will jail and cane me. Some jealous gays may use this tactic against me as they could be jealous of my looks, wealth etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit4Masc Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) "At about 11.30pm on Nov 10 last year, the victim returned to the flat and had a shower. He then went to his room, closing the door and going to bed at about 1am. About two hours later, Fernando returned home from work. He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity", court documents said" So Fernando felt like buying some vegetables at 3am????? Curious where got sell vegetables at 3am and what sort of vegetables was he thinking of getting Edited August 23, 2018 by Fit4Masc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lingam Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Fit4Masc said: "At about 11.30pm on Nov 10 last year, the victim returned to the flat and had a shower. He then went to his room, closing the door and going to bed at about 1am. About two hours later, Fernando returned home from work. He was on his way out to buy vegetables when he "felt the urge to engage in homosexual activity", court documents said" So Fernando felt like buying some vegetables at 3am????? Curious where got sell vegetables at 3am and what sort of vegetables was he thinking of getting 24h Mustafa buy veggies can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deceptiveeyes.deceivingminds Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Fit4Masc said: So Fernando felt like buying some vegetables at 3am????? Curious where got sell vegetables at 3am and what sort of vegetables was he thinking of getting He's staying in Kim Keat and just before the estate there's a vegetable wholesale market that operates right after midnight. As for the severity of the punishment meted out, it may sound harsh but what he had committed was nothing less than a rape. It is justice. pittsburgh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Yap....unfortuantely here is singapore not sri lanka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Based on the report alone, nowhere did it say that the man was prosecuted under section 377A. What was stated is he was prosecuted under non-consensual sex "between two individuals." The word "individuals" is significant, because it shows that regardless gender, non-consensual sex is a crime. Hence it is safe to say that defendant was not charged using 377A. If he were, the DPP's statement would have been different. They cannot charge the defendant with 377A since it is clear that one party was non-consensual. Hence if the DPP were to charge with that in court, he will lose the case. inexperience 1 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/s/256726 Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 已婚工程师夜闯客房 趁男房客熟睡口交罪成 分享 (新加坡23日讯) 已婚工程师半夜闯进男房客房间,趁房客熟睡时替对方口交惹祸,法官斥骂工程师行为令人髮指,判他坐牢6年鞭打3下。 被告瓦杜科(38岁,译音)原籍斯里兰卡,现已是新加坡公民,案发时是一名项目工程师,与妻子和3名孩子住在大巴窑金吉道一带的组屋。 他面对一项控状,指他在去年11月11日凌晨3时至3时30分,在屋里为一名28岁男房客口交。 据案情显示,这名房客来自马来西亚,在新加坡当厨师,案发时在被告家住了4个月。 相关新闻 新国14婴儿曾饮用问题奶粉 大多情况良好 23日 • 10小时前 换肝男婴获准出院 22日 • 一天前 新国逾百人收假绑架短讯 21日 • 2天前 Mamil Gold第一阶段奶粉含有害细菌 新加坡下令回收 21日 • 2天前 性侵情妇8岁女儿 递送员被判监12年半兼打鞭 20日 • 3天前 8少年10年前相约跳楼2死 倖存者:庆幸没上车 20日 • 3天前 新国政府部门创办面书专页「谈鬼」 17日 • 6天前 男房客在案发前一天晚上11点半回家,在冲完凉后在凌晨晚上1点睡著。被告凌晨3时05分回到家,换好衣服打算外出买菜。不过他一时性起,有股要与同性进行性行为的衝动。 他见男房客房门没锁,入房后又看见房客赤裸上半身,仅穿一条蓝色短裤。由于房客当时没穿內裤,双脚有打开著,因此从侧面能看见他的下体。 被告按耐不住慾火,先跪在房客身旁,脱下房客短裤,並为他口交,直到房客下体勃起为止。 性侵行为持续了10分钟,房客被惊醒后感觉下体「湿湿」,还发现被告下体也勃起,在他脚上磨蹭。房客被嚇呆,下意识一脚將被告踢开。 被告之后假装没事,出外买菜,但房客之后报警,他回家时被逮捕。 律师代被告求情时说,被告坦诚婚前有对別的男人有进行同性性行为的衝动,不过在婚后已將慾望抑制下来。 律师透露,被告拥有澳洲一所大学的工程硕士学位,原籍斯里兰卡,于2008年结婚,育有两名分別8岁和6岁的儿子,以及一名3岁女儿。被告一度没工作,去年1月至7月当优步司机,案发时打两份工,早上当工程师,晚上当侍应生。 法官今早下判时,指被告行为令人髮指,要他以后不能犯下同样的罪。 被告瓦杜科 Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINKYMALAY Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 6 hours ago, fab said: The msian was penetrated for 10 mins without knowing? Everyone is asking the same question. Is it really penetration? Or did they mis-reported. The only way the man won't know is if he is dead drunk - which he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What If... Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Shoulda just ‘accidentally’ run over him with a car to keep him quiet, would have been just a few months jail and suspension, compared to 6 yrs + cane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OMG! So boh hua! Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 PEnetration as in malaysian’s DIAMOND-MADE penis penetrated sri lankan’s greedy mouth? Some may think the sri lankan man paid to service the malaysian’s DIAMOND-ENCRUSTED penis with 6 years’ jail time and three strokes of cane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Guest Guest said: Why was his sentence so hash? Was it because he was gay? Will we be jailed if we are caught having sex? Example...if our housemate know I am having sex with a man in my private room and he make a police report, will I be arrested, jailed and caned? Someone please enlighten me as I am very worried about this. The sentence has nothing to do with him being gay. It has to do with non-consensual sex. Note that the DPP used the term "individuals" not 2 men. Anyway, if your housemate know you are engaging in homosexual act, and reports you, yes, technically you can be charged under 377A for breaking the law. However, like J walking, the police have better things to do than come knocking on your door after you are done with the act. The thing about law is it has to be black and white. In cases like this, the public prosecutor has to determine which law has been broken. In this case, it is not so much anything that has to do with gay sex, but non-consensual sex. If the public prosecutor were to go after the case as violation of 377A, then the tenant has to be gay, agreed voluntarily to engage in gay sex, and was caught breaking the penal code. More importantly, the sexual orientation of the tenant is not the issue here, but the violation of privacy and non-consensual sex. The same punishment will be given out if the tenant is female, or even if the tenant is a gay male. No means no. Edited August 23, 2018 by doncoin Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 I read from a chinese website. The Sri Lankan was blowing the Malaysian n at the same time rubbing his dick on the latter's shin. Malaysian maybe having wet dream n hence only realized it after ten mins. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You are mistaken Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 hour ago, doncoin said: The sentence has nothing to do with him being gay. It has to do with non-consensual sex. Note that the DPP used the term "individuals" not 2 men. Anyway, if your housemate know you are engaging in homosexual act, and reports you, yes, technically you can be charged under 377A for breaking the law. However, like J walking, the police have better things to do than come knocking on your door after you are done with the act. The thing about law is it has to be black and white. In cases like this, the public prosecutor has to determine which law has been broken. In this case, it is not so much anything that has to do with gay sex, but non-consensual sex. If the public prosecutor were to go after the case as violation of 377A, then the tenant has to be gay, agreed voluntarily to engage in gay sex, and was caught breaking the penal code. More importantly, the sexual orientation of the tenant is not the issue here, but the violation of privacy and non-consensual sex. The same punishment will be given out if the tenant is female, or even if the tenant is a gay male. No means no. Oh no, to qualify to be charged under S377A, just two males will do! Don’t care whether consensual or not. Technically, all it takes is just for someone to report you! What if it’s a woman giving blow job to a sleeping AND non-consensual gay or straight man? She most probably will be just given a stern warning here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, Guest You are mistaken said: Oh no, to qualify to be charged under S377A, just two males will do! Don’t care whether consensual or not. Technically, all it takes is just for someone to report you! What if it’s a woman giving blow job to a sleeping AND non-consensual gay or straight man? She most probably will be just given a stern warning here! This is 377A: "Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years." Where it is vague is the term "gross indecency" which is up for interpretation, but what is clear is that gay sex is a criminal offense between consenting adults. In the case of the woman giving a bj to a non-consenting male. she can be charged under the same rules. FYI, caning as a punishment is exclusive to male offenders only. Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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