Singapore Local Gay News [LGBT Related News] (Compiled)

[Steve5380]

On 6/27/2019 at 6:07 PM, Guest Disciplinary Master said:

Why don’t these principal, vice principal and teachers form their own CCA group to have fun among themselves after school. 

 

I think that it is proper that the principal receives the sentence for molestation,  and the "victim" is sentenced  for extortion.

[Guest Try and see]

3 hours ago, Since u r here said:

compensation went wrong? 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-vice-principal-found-guilty-of-sexually-violating-student

 

 

Finally, the VP vs. China Boy case has reached a verdict.

[Kimochi]

23 minutes ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Finally, the VP vs. China Boy case has reached a verdict.

Page cannot be found.. 

[Mushigg]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-vice-principal-found-guilty-of-sexually-violating-student-11845916

[Guest Try and see]

20 minutes ago, Kimochi said:

Page cannot be found.. 

 

Oh, sorry. Here are the links below.

 

The articles may disappear after a few days so read them soon 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/primary-school-vice-principal-found-guilty-of-performing-sex-acts-on-male

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-vice-principal-found-guilty-of-sexually-violating-student-11845916

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/ex-primary-school-vp-who-became-students-guardian-found-guilty-sex-acts-him

 

 

[Guest Guest]

8 minutes ago, Mushigg said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/former-vice-principal-found-guilty-of-sexually-violating-student-11845916

 

Walao eh!! The china boy got gonorrhoea from the VP!!!   

[Guest shame]

Singapore

Former vice-principal found guilty of sexually violating student from when he was 14

27 Aug 2019 04:26PM

SINGAPORE: A former primary school vice-principal who sexually groomed a student for years from when he was 14, eventually taking him into his own home, was found guilty on Tuesday (Aug 27).

The man, who is now 57, had claimed trial to three charges of sexual exploitation of a young person and five charges under Section 377 of the Penal Code for carnal intercourse against the order of nature.

 

At the time of the offences in 2005 and 2006, the law regarded the act of fellatio as unnatural carnal intercourse within Section 377 - with the only exception being fellatio as a stimulant for consensual intercourse between a man and a woman.

The section was repealed in 2007, and there is no corresponding section today.

District Judge Chay Yuen Fatt convicted the man of all charges on Tuesday, saying he accepted the prosecution's evidence and believed the testimony of the victim, who is now 30.

He rejected the man's defence, saying he found it "wholly self-serving", and added that the prosecution had proven its case beyond reasonable doubt.

 

The man and the victim, who was almost a third of the then-educator's age at the time of the first offence, cannot be named due to a gag order protecting the victim's identity.

 

BOY CAME TO SINGAPORE FROM CHINA WHEN HE WAS NINE

The court heard that the victim had come to Singapore from China with his mother when he was about nine years old, and attended the unidentified school from Primary 1.

He was appointed vice-head prefect in 2003 when he was in Primary 5 and reported to the vice-principal every morning at his office.

The first offence occurred that year when the boy was doing exercises in the school gym. The man pushed the boy to the wall before molesting him and performing a sex act on him.

"The victim was 14 years old at this time," said Deputy Public Prosecutor James Chew. "He did not know how to react, and had doubts about the nature of what the accused did, as the accused was a very respected figure. He was also afraid that he would not be believed if he told anyone."

 

The boy was appointed head prefect a year later and continued reporting to the vice-principal every morning at his office. He also began going to the man's home for tuition on weekends after the vice-principal offered to coach him in English.

At his home, the vice-principal showed the boy articles about masturbation and performed sex acts on him, before taking him out for a meal.

The following weekend sometime in 2004, during another tuition session at the vice-principal's home, the man told the boy that he loved him very much and tried to kiss him before performing sex acts on him.

This behaviour continued, with the victim going to the vice-principal's home for tuition on weekends about once in two weeks, with the older man committing similar acts against him.

 

BOY MOVED IN WITH MAN, SEX ACTS PROGRESSED

The relationship between the two changed at the end of 2004 when the boy's guardian was repatriated by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority.

As he needed a new guardian to remain in Singapore, the boy told the vice-principal about his situation and the man offered to become his guardian. He also asked the boy to move in with him.

He moved in and originally had his belongings placed in a room opposite the maid's, but the vice-principal asked him to sleep with him at night.

The boy slept with the vice-principal on his bed every night and also regarded the man's parents as his own grandparents.

"He also began to regard the accused not just as a mentor, but also as a fatherly figure to him, and he was very appreciative of the accused," said the prosecutor.

After the boy moved in, the sexual acts progressed to involve fellatio, with the first act sometime in early 2005.

As the boy got older, he began having doubts about what the man was doing to him, and whether they were really normal as the man had portrayed them to be.

In 2007, when the victim was about 18, he grew increasingly resistant to the man's sexual advances, and the frequency of the acts decreased.

While he was in junior college, the teenager started thinking about moving out because of the advances, but did not know how to do so as he felt obligated and responsible for the man's elderly parents.

 

VICTIM DISCOVERED HE HAD STD

The victim changed his mind in 2011 when he discovered that he had contracted gonorrhoea urethritis, a sexually transmitted disease, and realised that he needed to protect himself, court documents said.

He met a woman while on a trip to Scandinavia with the vice-principal in June 2013, and began dating her secretly after.

After sharing with her about what the man had done to him, the woman, who is now his wife, urged him to make a police report and move out of the man's home.

He moved out later that year when he was 24, and stayed with the woman.

The vice-principal asked the young man not to report the matter to the police, saying he may commit suicide otherwise.

 

VICE-PRINCIPAL'S NIECE ASKED VICTIM TO MAKE POLICE REPORT

However, the issue of reporting it to the police came up again in August 2015, when the victim chanced upon the vice-principal's niece.

He told the niece what her uncle had done, and she encouraged him to make a police report, reminding him that her uncle could have done the same thing to other boys.

The victim remained reluctant to make the report, knowing that it would cost the man his job and affect his family.

He also feared for his own reputation and did not want his parents to feel guilty when they found out about it.

After discussing the matter with the woman he was dating and a friend who was a law student, the victim decided to contact the accused to seek compensation for an out-of-court settlement, thinking this was a possible and legitimate course of action.

The victim sent the man a text on Nov 3, 2015, asking the man to compensate him S$200,000 for his acts and saying that his parents wanted to pursue the matter.

He also sought an apology, an admission and an agreement not to do such things to other boys.

The man met the victim on Nov 24, 2015, but served him a legal letter instead of having a discussion with him, and the victim lodged a police report the next day.

 

MAN DENIED ANY SEXUAL ACTS

Over the course of the trial, the prosecution relied on evidence including testimonies from the victim, his wife and the accused's niece, handwritten letters, articles on masturbation and a recorded phone call.

In the conversation, the vice-principal had accepted that he had committed wrongdoing against the victim from the time he was in primary school and said it was "the regret of (his) life".

The man in his defence denied engaging in any sexual acts with the victim, claiming that the teenager had not slept in his bedroom at night but only sometimes in the day.

 

He also said that when he was contacted by the victim for compensation, he was under the impression that the victim wanted compensation as the accused had caned him in 2004.

 

The judge adjourned mitigation and sentencing to a later date.

[Guest guest]

Justice is upheld

 

[Guest Try and see]

15 hours ago, Guest shame said:

Singapore

Former vice-principal found guilty of sexually violating student from when he was 14

27 Aug 2019 04:26PM

 

SINGAPORE: A former primary school vice-principal who sexually groomed a student for years from when he was 14, eventually taking him into his own home, was found guilty on Tuesday (Aug 27).

The man, who is now 57, had claimed trial to three charges of sexual exploitation of a young person and five charges under Section 377 of the Penal Code for carnal intercourse against the order of nature.

 

At the time of the offences in 2005 and 2006, the law regarded the act of fellatio as unnatural carnal intercourse within Section 377 - with the only exception being fellatio as a stimulant for consensual intercourse between a man and a woman.

The section was repealed in 2007, and there is no corresponding section today.

 

This is the part I find very confusing.

 

All the news articles say that the sexual offences took place between 2003 to 2006, but very clearly, the forced sex between the VP and the China boy did not stop in 2006. They lasted until 2011 when the China boy turned 22 and realised that he had contracted gonorrhoea from the VP.

 

So if Section 377 was repealed in 2007, was that why the oral sex that the VP did on the boy from 2007 to 2011 did not count as a criminal offense?

 

Just thinking aloud as I am not a law expert. Hope some smart person can enlighten me. Thanks!!  

[Guest repeal]

19 minutes ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

This is the part I find very confusing.

 

All the news articles say that the sexual offences took place between 2003 to 2006, but very clearly, the forced sex between the VP and the China boy did not stop in 2006. They lasted until 2011 when the China boy turned 22 and realised that he had contracted gonorrhoea from the VP.

 

So if Section 377 was repealed in 2007, was that why the oral sex that the VP did on the boy from 2007 to 2011 did not count as a criminal offense?

 

Just thinking aloud as I am not a law expert. Hope some smart person can enlighten me. Thanks!!  

 

The exception of permitting oral sex between straight couples was created by a judgment. Oral sex between two consenting straight persons  was only permitted as long as it lead to penetration afterwards (so to speak as a stimulant to penetrative vaginal sex).

 

But it was always a crime between gays as the old 377 considered gay sex (in any form) as a crime.

 

Section 377 of the Penal Code had stated that “whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animals, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 10 years, and shall also be liable to fine”.⁷ This clause was repealed in the Penal Code (Amendment) Act in 2007 and a new section 377, which criminalises sex with a human corpse, was instituted in its place.

Background
In November 2003, a police coast guard officer, Annis Abdullah, was convicted under Section 377 of the Penal Code for having oral sex with a teenage girl, although the act was consensual.³ The conviction generated much debate in Singapore about whether oral sex should continue to be considered an offence in modern times.⁴ The law in contention was the Penal Code of the Straits Settlement, which was enacted in 1871 during colonial administration. It mirrored the Indian Penal Code and was the primary criminal statute in Singapore.⁵  

The 2003 case caused the Ministry of Home Affairs to begin a comprehensive review of the Penal Code. In September 2007, the ministry submitted to Parliament the Penal Code (Amendment) Bill, which proposed 77 amended provisions and four repealed provisions.⁶ 

 

 

Our company always had a bunch of interns from Europe from many countries. Once they started on the first week I took them to a dinner and explained to them to Do's and Don'ts in Singapore. I told them, if you do oral with a girl, you have to fuck her pussy at least penetrate, if you start on oral it must lead to penetration.

In those old times before 2007 there were local "bitches" who made police reports against guys who had asked them for oral sex.

It was a dangerous ground for guys. Even European Embassies/ High Commissions placed warnings at their websites...

[Guest Try and see]

2 hours ago, Guest repeal said:

 

The exception of permitting oral sex between straight couples was created by a judgment. Oral sex between two consenting straight persons  was only permitted as long as it lead to penetration afterwards (so to speak as a stimulant to penetrative vaginal sex).

 

But it was always a crime between gays as the old 377 considered gay sex (in any form) as a crime.

 

Thanks for the explanation!

 

That's why I don't understand why the articles keep saying that the sexual abuse between the VP and the China boy happened between 2003 to 2006.

 

But in the same article, they will state that the VP continued to perform oral sex on the china boy (and made him do it back to him) until 2011 when the boy finally put his foot down and refused to give in to the VP's demands. 

 

Anyway, on a separate note, I get the impression that the VP's niece does not like the VP a lot. Probably the VP looks down on the niece's family because he has such a high status in the education sector?

 

Still, like many readers, I am rather curious to know what the china guy looks like.  

[Guest Try and see]

On 8/27/2019 at 9:25 PM, Guest shame said:

Singapore

Former vice-principal found guilty of sexually violating student from when he was 14

 

According to the chinese newspapers, what happened in the gym was that the VP pinned the china boy against the wall, pulled down his shorts and underwear, and masturbated him, most likely until the boy cummed.

 

Then he removed his own clothing and masturbated himself in front of the boy.

 

The chinese press also said that after the china boy moved into the VP's house, the VP progressed on from handjobs to oral sex, and frequently made the boy do 69 with him!  

 

He tricked the china boy into thinking that guys jerking each other off (whether via oral or handjob) was normal and healthy.

 

 

 

[fab]

1 hour ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

According to the chinese newspapers, what happened in the gym was that the VP pinned the china boy against the wall, pulled down his shorts and underwear, and masturbated him, most likely until the boy cummed.

 

Then he removed his own clothing and masturbated himself in front of the boy.

 

The chinese press also said that after the china boy moved into the VP's house, the VP progressed on from handjobs to oral sex, and frequently made the boy do 69 with him!  

 

He tricked the china boy into thinking that guys jerking each other off (whether via oral or handjob) was normal and healthy.

 

 

 

 

If the vp is this hot, he will be the victim instead. 

[Guest Try and see]

Maybe this is more realistic:

 

"I was your primary school vice-principal, remember? Of course you can trust me."
 

"Just relax. Guys masturbating each other is a very normal and healthy way to release the tension and sexual urges in the body. Remember those articles I showed you last week? 

 

"Er. . .yes, sir."

 

"Don't worry; we're all guys - what you have, I also have, except mine is bigger, that's all. Just let me stroke your cock. I want to see your sperm coming out afterwards. Understand, boy?"

 

"[Gulp] Yes, sir."

[mate69]

It's so prevalent these days. Terrible.

 

[fab]

2 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

Maybe this is more realistic:

 

"I was your primary school vice-principal, remember? Of course you can trust me."
 

"Just relax. Guys masturbating each other is a very normal and healthy way to release the tension and sexual urges in the body. Remember those articles I showed you last week? 

 

"Er. . .yes, sir."

 

"Don't worry; we're all guys - what you have, I also have, except mine is bigger, that's all. Just let me stroke your cock. I want to see your sperm coming out afterwards. Understand, boy?"

 

"[Gulp] Yes, sir."

 

Lol.

 

U r trying very hard. Yes this is more real.

[Guest Try and see]

52 minutes ago, krykry189 said:

The boy so poor thing.

 

I agree. He had to pay rent to stay in the VP's house, and still got sexually assaulted for so many years until he even contracted gonorrhoea!

 

"So I heard you got gonorrhoea. You didn't tell the doctor that you got it from me, did you?"

 

"[gulps] No, sir. I didn't. I told him I got it from visiting prostitutes in Geylang. [sobs] Please, sir; stop touching me down there. I'm already 22 this year. It feels weird whenever we do this!"  

 

 

 

Even though I don't agree with the VP's actions, yet as a gay man myself, I do feel very sorry for him.

 

If you compare the two parties:

 

China boy:

- had a good education in S'pore

- is now a S'pore PR

- is now a doctor 

- is happily married

- has his own condo

- only 30 and on his way to earning big bucks and making a mark for himself in his field

 

VP:

- is now 57, and reputation gone

- suspended by MOE (since Dec 2015)

- probably depleted a lot of his savings on lawyers fees and daily expenses, with no income since Dec 2015

- publicly outed for being gay due to high profile nature of case

- probably shunned by most relatives & friends

- is facing an impending jail term

- likely to face a lonely and bleak future upon release from prison (unlike Kong Hee)

 

Somehow for us gay guys, our lot and portion in life is always tougher and more unfair than our straight counterparts.

[barocco80]

On 9/1/2019 at 5:59 PM, Guest Try and see said:

 

I agree. He had to pay rent to stay in the VP's house, and still got sexually assaulted for so many years until he even contracted gonorrhoea!

 

"So I heard you got gonorrhoea. You didn't tell the doctor that you got it from me, did you?"

 

"[gulps] No, sir. I didn't. I told him I got it from visiting prostitutes in Geylang. [sobs] Please, sir; stop touching me down there. I'm already 22 this year. It feels weird whenever we do this!"  

 

 

 

Even though I don't agree with the VP's actions, yet as a gay man myself, I do feel very sorry for him.

 

If you compare the two parties:

 

China boy:

- had a good education in S'pore

- is now a S'pore PR

- is now a doctor 

- is happily married

- has his own condo

- only 30 and on his way to earning big bucks and making a mark for himself in his field

 

VP:

- is now 57, and reputation gone

- suspended by MOE (since Dec 2015)

- probably depleted a lot of his savings on lawyers fees and daily expenses, with no income since Dec 2015

- publicly outed for being gay due to high profile nature of case

- probably shunned by most relatives & friends

- is facing an impending jail term

- likely to face a lonely and bleak future upon release from prison (unlike Kong Hee)

 

Somehow for us gay guys, our lot and portion in life is always tougher and more unfair than our straight counterparts.

He should bear all the consequences regardless and let this be a stern warning to the potential predators out there. What if the boy turn into wrong path and got his life destroyed by the man's act?

[fab]

39 minutes ago, barocco80 said:

He should bear all the consequences regardless and let this be a stern warning to the potential predators out there. What if the boy turn into wrong path and got his life destroyed by the man's act?

 

Yes totally agree the vp is responsible and should have used his big head to think instead. 

 

Btw may I know what do you mean by wrong path? I hope you do not mean being gays. 

[tyan]

But the China boy got STD from him. Which means the VP also fool around. How I hope the VP & China boy has a good ending. 

[Guest Try and see]

11 hours ago, tyan said:

How I hope the VP & China boy has a good ending. 

 

 

[fab]

12 hours ago, tyan said:

But the China boy got STD from him. Which means the VP also fool around. How I hope the VP & China boy has a good ending. 

 

Even if the china boy were gay, the vp is 27 yrs older. Old enough to be his dad.

 

How to have a good ending.

 

[Kimochi]

2 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

 

All your illustrations fucking funny haha ~ 😆

[Guest Try and see]

1 hour ago, Kimochi said:

All your illustrations fucking funny haha ~ 😆

 

Thanks, man!  

 

Here's one more for you:

"I bought this device from a sex shop in Geylang. The man says it can cure any STD. Just put it on your cock and turn it on."

 

"Please, sir, get it off me!! It's making me hard!! Please turn it off! I think I'm going to  . . . . Ah . . . Ah . . . Ah . . . Ah . . . Ah . . . Ah . . . "

[Guest moral]

On 9/1/2019 at 5:59 PM, Guest Try and see said:

I agree. He had to pay rent to stay in the VP's house, and still got sexually assaulted for so many years until he even contracted gonorrhoea!

 

Even though I don't agree with the VP's actions, yet as a gay man myself, I do feel very sorry for him.

 

If you compare the two parties:

 

China boy:

- had a good education in S'pore

- is now a S'pore PR

- is now a doctor 

- is happily married

- has his own condo

- only 30 and on his way to earning big bucks and making a mark for himself in his field

 

VP:

- is now 57, and reputation gone

- suspended by MOE (since Dec 2015)

- probably depleted a lot of his savings on lawyers fees and daily expenses, with no income since Dec 2015

- publicly outed for being gay due to high profile nature of case

- probably shunned by most relatives & friends

- is facing an impending jail term

- likely to face a lonely and bleak future upon release from prison (unlike Kong Hee)

 

Somehow for us gay guys, our lot and portion in life is always tougher and more unfair than our straight counterparts.

 

I did not see what is unfairer for gays compared to straight guys. If the VP had groomed a girl at the age of 12, penetrated her, asked her to suck his dick, he would have felt the full wrath of the law, wouldn't he?

 

I find your post very disturbing and irritating. Sorry. Why should I feel sorry for the VP? 

He is a predator, never accepted the sexual growing up on his own by the Chinese boy but exploited him. 

Yes, the case would have been different, if the Chinese boy had been gay from the first day. But, unfortunately, nobody or most can't tell if they are gay at such young age. 

What I see as making it worse, is the exploitation of the innocence of the Chinese boy to his (the VP's) own sexual pleasure. There is no excuse to this. 

Lastly, if you are working at a school, it is imperative that kids / boys can rely on their safety from those who are tasked to safeguard them from any attacks to their person. 

It must be clear that you give children the chance to grow up and explore their own sexual adolescence and not to impose on them. 

 

And as gays we should fight to protect any boys from any sexual predators irrespective whether the attacker is gay or straight. 

 

The VP took all risks. what you listed under the VP are crucial parts he took to risk with his exploitative manner on the Chinese boy. This are losses he had taken for the sexual gains he obtained by exploiting the boy. 

 

And don't disrespect the probable sufferings of the Chinese boy, which might even still continue with nightmares and strange behaviours at current time. 

 

The Chinese boy, were many others here saw him as a "money sucker" even had the gentlemen attitude to offer him an out of court resolution of the issue, the VP rejected it. Maybe that was his biggest mistake. This attitude of the VP showed no remorse of his wrongdoings. Yes, there was a danger for the Chinese boy to ask for more later, but the VP at that stage was already well advised by a lawyer and for sure could have drafted a complete settlement preventing the abuse being made public. But he did not take this offer. 

 

Being gay myself, I can't feel any sympathy for the VP because his actions are not excusable. He was lead by his personal sexual interest and caused the "bleak future" by his own wrongful actions. The VP was intellectually sufficiently "skilled" to know that what he was doing was a risk on his future and was wrong. 

Sorry, but I can't see unfairness on him by penalising  him for his doings. 

 

 

[Guest Try and see]

22 minutes ago, Guest moral said:

 

I did not see what is unfairer for gays compared to straight guys. If the VP had groomed a girl at the age of 12, penetrated her, asked her to suck his dick, he would have felt the full wrath of the law, wouldn't he?

 

I find your post very disturbing and irritating. Sorry. Why should I feel sorry for the VP? 

He is a predator, never accepted the sexual growing up on his own by the Chinese boy but exploited him. 

Yes, the case would have been different, if the Chinese boy had been gay from the first day. But, unfortunately, nobody or most can't tell if they are gay at such young age. 

What I see as making it worse, is the exploitation of the innocence of the Chinese boy to his (the VP's) own sexual pleasure. There is no excuse to this. 

Lastly, if you are working at a school, it is imperative that kids / boys can rely on their safety from those who are tasked to safeguard them from any attacks to their person. 

It must be clear that you give children the chance to grow up and explore their own sexual adolescence and not to impose on them. 

 

And as gays we should fight to protect any boys from any sexual predators irrespective whether the attacker is gay or straight. 

 

The VP took all risks. what you listed under the VP are crucial parts he took to risk with his exploitative manner on the Chinese boy. This are losses he had taken for the sexual gains he obtained by exploiting the boy. 

 

And don't disrespect the probable sufferings of the Chinese boy, which might even still continue with nightmares and strange behaviours at current time. 

 

The Chinese boy, were many others here saw him as a "money sucker" even had the gentlemen attitude to offer him an out of court resolution of the issue, the VP rejected it. Maybe that was his biggest mistake. This attitude of the VP showed no remorse of his wrongdoings. Yes, there was a danger for the Chinese boy to ask for more later, but the VP at that stage was already well advised by a lawyer and for sure could have drafted a complete settlement preventing the abuse being made public. But he did not take this offer. 

 

Being gay myself, I can't feel any sympathy for the VP because his actions are not excusable. He was lead by his personal sexual interest and caused the "bleak future" by his own wrongful actions. The VP was intellectually sufficiently "skilled" to know that what he was doing was a risk on his future and was wrong. 

Sorry, but I can't see unfairness on him by penalising  him for his doings. 

 

To each his own.

 

You are free to disagree with my opinion about the VP.

[fab]

The vp is categorically wrong. But the boy is no angel too.

 

I don't believe that at 14, the age where he was assaulted,  he was still so naïve to not to know that the VP was sexually abusing him.

 

He had a  choice. Give up everything here and pack up and return to China or continue to be abused. Apparently he chose the latter. 

Edited September 4, 2019 by fab

[Guest Try and see]

1 hour ago, fab said:

I don't believe that at 14, the age where he was assaulted,  he was still so naïve to not to know that the VP was sexually abusing him.

 

He had a  choice. Give up everything here and pack up and return to China or continue to be abused. Apparently he chose the latter. 

 

I also found it very hard to believe when the china boy claimed that he didn't know what the VP did to him was wrong.

 

Usually when you read of molest cases involving young boys, you will notice that even if the boy is only 6 or 7 years old, he will cry and protest when a man touches him inappropriately. 

 

Yet this smart china boy claimed that he thought it was okay for guys to jerk each other off, just because the VP said so? 

 

If he had really thought so, then he would surely have tried asking his male classmates to jerk off with him, and then see what their reaction would be. But somehow, he never asked any of his guy friends to jerk off with him, despite supposedly thinking that it was normal between guys.

 

In fact, if I were the judge, I would have asked the china boy in Court if he had ever tried asking any of his male classsates or friends to jerk off with him, since he had said he thought it was a normal practice between guys.

 

Also, he approached the VP to be his legal guardian after the VP had forcibly jerked him off in the gym and in his Woodlands flat.

 

Any other boy would have avoided the VP like the plague after such incidents. But the china boy still knew how to go to the VP for help, and still moved into the VP's house, knowing what the VP would do to him!

 

And even after he had contracted gonorrhoea from the VP, he still went to Scandinavia with the VP for holiday! I'm guessing the VP paid for everything, so for the china boy, why not enjoy a free luxurious holiday?

 

I mean, this china boy really knew how to make use of the VP! 

 

As you've said, he could have just packed his bags and gone back to China at the very first sign of trouble. Or reported the VP.

 

But he seems to me to also be making use of the VP for his own purpose of remaining in S'pore.

 

And not forgetting the $200,000 which he later demanded from the VP. It's no secret that he wanted that money to help pay off the lovenest condo that he had just bought after he got married.

 

I'm not saying that I side with the VP, but as you've correctly said, the china boy was no angel too. 

 

He's indeed very smart, which was how he managed to become a doctor. (Only a very, very small percentage of applicants get into NUS Medicine fac.)

[Guest Playbolt]

12 hours ago, Since u r here said:

Agree w the abv

 

latest in: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/hiv-positive-man-jailed-avoided-hiv-test-infection-11876898?cid=fbcna

 

hope none of u played with him

PR scared of losing PR status...

EP scared of losing EP...

These days it is hard to take someone's word seriously especially when he said he has "tested negative".

Especially foreigners who are required by law to do health screening every year to sustain their employment. Or so we assume.

Anyway not all foreigners or PR are like that. There are just black sheep out there. Just becareful and maybe show test result slip is the safest.

Better be safe than to be sorry

Edited September 6, 2019 by Playbolt

[gstringuy26]

So play safe, use condom! Don't bet on it!

[Guest yum yummy]

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/malaysian-man-pleads-guilty-sentenced-063739277.html

 

Malaysian man pleads guilty, sentenced to 42 months jail for lying about HIV test, potentially infecting up to six victims.

 

 

[Guest what's your point?]

Yes he is was wrong to have done it. But that doesn't make all HIV positive criminals.

 

Some just want to lead a normal life as a poz.

[Guest Pointer Sister]

And if he is not a drug offender, this shit stain might not have been caught, and would carry on infecting others. 

[Guest Sister]

22 minutes ago, Guest Pointer Sister said:

And if he is not a drug offender, this shit stain might not have been caught, and would carry on infecting others. 

Amen sister

[Guest KNNB]

「His defense asked for leniency, saying that HIV was still an incurable disease, and that “the accused has to live with the impact of this disease all his life.”」

 

Bloody lawyer, what the fuck is he asking for leniency... what about those get infected by him? 

 

 

[sam8899]

But the bigger issue is why his sex partners allowed unsafe sex to happen....don't they know about the risks?

[mate69]

14 minutes ago, sam8899 said:

But the bigger issue is why his sex partners allowed unsafe sex to happen....don't they know about the risks?

 

Small head wins big head.

[GoodMan654]

he is selfish. He shouldn't do any unprotected sex when he is in high risk.

[auscent]

11 minutes ago, GoodMan654 said:

he is selfish. He shouldn't do any unprotected sex when he is in high risk.

...and the others shouldnt have accepted his offér on unprotected sex.

[sam8899]

7 minutes ago, auscent said:

...and the others shouldnt have accepted his offér on unprotected sex.

 

exactly!

 

the number one lesson is to protect oneself

[Vellakare]

Looks to me like a case of one of those Crystal Chem Queens, and their various 'circuit' parties. 

[tyan]

On 9/7/2019 at 7:10 AM, sam8899 said:

But the bigger issue is why his sex partners allowed unsafe sex to happen....don't they know about the risks?

Only 2 reasons I can think of. The guy is too tempting to resist and when he suggest raw sex, the parties agree. Or he drug the victim. 

[am9]

do anal. 不帶套的後果，害人害己啊！

[Square]

The report didn't even say how they were infected. One would most likely assume it is unprotected sex but then again, could have been a rare case of oral, needle sharing, who knows. So let's not assume. 

But whats done is done. 

 

Such are the risks of random hook ups. 

May not be HIV, but applies to other STDs too. 

If you do have something, just be responsible and stay away from infecting others till you are recovered.

Can't stress the importance of regular checks. 

[Guest Pointer Sister]

18 minutes ago, Square said:

The report didn't even say how they were infected. One would most likely assume it is unprotected sex but then again, could have been a rare case of oral, needle sharing, who knows. So let's not assume. 

But whats done is done. 

 

Such are the risks of random hook ups. 

May not be HIV, but applies to other STDs too. 

If you do have something, just be responsible and stay away from infecting others till you are recovered.

Can't stress the importance of regular checks. 

 

CNA states unprotected sex.

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/hiv-positive-man-jailed-avoided-hiv-test-infection-11876898

[Guest Tree]

Is he bottom?

Read that the chance of contraction is low if negative top anal the positive bottom?

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest Tree said:

Is he bottom?

Read that the chance of contraction is low if negative top anal the positive bottom?

 

Where did it says that he is bottom in the first place? I was assuming that he was a top. 

 

And how come the CSI not at work this time huh? I thought by now, someone would have leaked out his pretty face picture already, gag order or no gag order. I wonder how handsome he can be to the extent that 6 people went bareback with him. 

[Vellakare]

14 hours ago, Guest Tree said:

Is he bottom?

Read that the chance of contraction is low if negative top anal the positive bottom?

There are a lot of variables involved. Too many to consider. Its a complex virus for a start. 

Lets look at the specifics of the case, and it could lead to a much needed change in leglislation and reforms with regards to treatment. If he'd been treated his viral load would be undetectable. If it was'nt for the methylamphetamine usage, its likely that he'd never be found.

 

"In February 2014, he met another man on Grindr, and told him he would get tested. In August of the same year, this man too tested positive for HIV. Having tested negative in March of that same year, his only sex partner between tests was the accused Malaysian man.

Following attempts from the NPHU were dismissed, with the suspect telling them he was very busy, and later refusing to answer phone calls.

Finally, an MOH-ordered HIV test confirmed what up to six partners had already concluded: The accused tested positive.

Following the litany of infections, and drawn-out process to get the suspect to take a test, the man was then arrested for smoking methamphetamine in 2015, and again this year"

[Guest Aru]

So, will this PR get revoke and deport to his home country after jail term? 

[wilfgene]

On 9/9/2019 at 4:06 AM, Vellakare said:

There are a lot of variables involved. Too many to consider. Its a complex virus for a start. 

Lets look at the specifics of the case, and it could lead to a much needed change in leglislation and reforms with regards to treatment. If he'd been treated his viral load would be undetectable. If it was'nt for the methylamphetamine usage, its likely that he'd never be found.

 

"In February 2014, he met another man on Grindr, and told him he would get tested. In August of the same year, this man too tested positive for HIV. Having tested negative in March of that same year, his only sex partner between tests was the accused Malaysian man.

Following attempts from the NPHU were dismissed, with the suspect telling them he was very busy, and later refusing to answer phone calls.

Finally, an MOH-ordered HIV test confirmed what up to six partners had already concluded: The accused tested positive.

Following the litany of infections, and drawn-out process to get the suspect to take a test, the man was then arrested for smoking methamphetamine in 2015, and again this year"

No member links this case with the Ipoh victim of pedophilia preying on children here.

It is the linking that make up our own life experience.

Only you know if it is deliberate on your part.

Me to tell if you feel it.

Malaysia boleh, among others.  

Edited September 12, 2019 by wilfgene