Guest Guest Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 On 14/08/2017 at 1:41 AM, Guest Hot Swimmer said: Went to Keybox this Sunday evening. Wow Keybox was full house. All lockers were occupied. First time see the cute tanned receptionist at Keybox. After changed, went into the steam room. It was so steamy inside. And packed too. Then went to take shower wow need to queue too. Went to toilet, need to queue too. Business so good. Wondered why so much people today? Many need to de- stress from exams? The maze also packed with people. someone was fucked so good and he moaned so loud. And the reward he gave to the TOP fucker is a load of shit haha... making the room with shitty smell. Poor receptionist he went to clean up. Good job to the Keybox staffs. Stood in the dark maze and many came to feel my big cock haha... and some hands fought other hands and tried to grab hold of my cock like wing Chun or push hand or Taichi. So eager lol. Had some fun eventually and left a happy man. How come so many shit incidents happened at KB?? Anus LOOSE already ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey awesome Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: How come so many shit incidents happened at KB?? Anus LOOSE already ?? Too shiok bieng fucked lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leanmeat Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 13 hours ago, Guest Guest said: The coming Wed underwear gear night, KB would only be opened at 06:00 pm. Oh. Lucky u tell me here. How come u know? its in the website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Curious Young Newbie Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Hi, thinking of trying sauna for the first time during off peak hours. Is there a dress code for Wed afternoons here? Or can be naked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Guest Curious Young Newbie said: Hi, thinking of trying sauna for the first time during off peak hours. Is there a dress code for Wed afternoons here? Or can be naked? Keybox opening in about two hours time. Notice is pasted inside Keybox when you enter the premises. There is no dress code. But you must change into towel provided. Or you can go naked, in underwear, etc. Anything you want. Theme for today, Wed night is under gear or nothing (naked). Go with a free and simple mind and just enjoy yourself will do. Play safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Keybox now really did a thorough spring cleaning of the whole premises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibibirdy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Thinking of visiting tomorrow..first time to sauna. What time do they open tomorrow and is it a nude theme tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 21 hours ago, Bibibirdy said: Thinking of visiting tomorrow..first time to sauna. What time do they open tomorrow and is it a nude theme tomorrow? Keybox only close everyday from 09:00 a, to 12:00 pm, unless otherwise stated or decided by management. Else, you can assume that it is open. Every day is nude night for customer if the customer does not mind going nude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey awesome Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 8/16/2017 at 0:02 PM, Guest Curious Young Newbie said: Hi, thinking of trying sauna for the first time during off peak hours. Is there a dress code for Wed afternoons here? Or can be naked? Are u in kb lastnight? Me was there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keybox Posted August 17, 2017 Report Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 05/08/2017 at 8:27 PM, lonelyglobe said: steam room is down again Go to Keybox !! In fact, Keybox just thoroughly spring clean the whole area two days ago and that day, they only opened at 06:00 pm. Please note that this is definitely NOT an advertisement and the facts are stated here for all to know. The pricing at Keybox was cheaper and got more facilities such as dry and wet sauna, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
share Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hope Keybox can upgrade the Jacuzzi instead of removing. It stand out & differentiate from the rest of the sauna. Can install the heater tank at the Jacuzzi area if heat is a concern to the smoke corner. Put in some plants (artificial ok too. Maintenance free). Add filter to clean the water. The existing cold pool is also fine. Just don't get rid of it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kb Guest Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 On 16/8/2017 at 4:05 PM, Guest Guest said: Keybox now really did a thorough spring cleaning of the whole premises. Keybox was opened at 6pm on Wednesday - 2 days ago (16 Aug).. because they engaged pest controllers to spray those bed bugs infested areas inside the dark rooms.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimochi Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Guest Kb Guest said: Keybox was opened at 6pm on Wednesday - 2 days ago (16 Aug).. because they engaged pest controllers to spray those bed bugs infested areas inside the dark rooms.. Wow they are good ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Guest Kb Guest said: Keybox was opened at 6pm on Wednesday - 2 days ago (16 Aug).. because they engaged pest controllers to spray those bed bugs infested areas inside the dark rooms.. What is more difficult to get rid of are lices, which jump from human to human in close contact. You can feel the tickling over your head and body but it was so small you can't see it like bed bugs. It leave itch red spots all over your body. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Buggy Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 So many foreigners from third world with their barang barangs. Bed bugs easily hitched a ride. Patrons have to be careful they don't hide and your bags and follow you home. Worse than kana followed by ghosts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Keybox is certainly more value for money . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangejava Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hi guys, I have never been to KB before (perhaps I am worried meeting someone I know!) For a first timer, what is that ONE THING I should expect? Or is there somewhere better? Be honest, just curious, want to look-see-look-sees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steam-Room Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 When I go sauna I just want to enjoy the steam room but certain operators only turn on the steam on certain hours and off it on certain hours for cleaning the room. may I know what is the timing of the steam room operations ?? I been to tenmen the room operates on 12pm and off at 5pm, how about keybox and shogun ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saunas goer Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Guest Steam-Room said: When I go sauna I just want to enjoy the steam room but certain operators only turn on the steam on certain hours and off it on certain hours for cleaning the room. may I know what is the timing of the steam room operations ?? I been to tenmen the room operates on 12pm and off at 5pm, how about keybox and shogun ?? Ten men wash their steamroom everyday between 4.30 - 5.00pm n 10+pm around closing. But I never notice keybox n shogan wash their steamroom during the operating hours. Yarksss !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steam-Room-Fan Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Guest Steam-Room said: When I go sauna I just want to enjoy the steam room but certain operators only turn on the steam on certain hours and off it on certain hours for cleaning the room. may I know what is the timing of the steam room operations ?? I been to tenmen the room operates on 12pm and off at 5pm, how about keybox and shogun ?? and which one has a larger steam room and Jacuzzi ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaven_cock_worshipper Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 for best steam room/jacuzzi experience, go to Yunomori. Kimochi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camus Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 i can't seem to comment on the ten mens club thread? is it because i said i didn't like the renovated rooms were too dark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 19/08/2017 at 0:47 AM, Guest Saunas goer said: Ten men wash their steamroom everyday between 4.30 - 5.00pm n 10+pm around closing. But I never notice keybox n shogan wash their steamroom during the operating hours. Yarksss !!! Who say Keybox does not wash their Steam Room during their operation hours?? They did !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 19/08/2017 at 3:39 PM, shaven_cock_worshipper said: for best steam room/jacuzzi experience, go to Yunomori. Can go g-Spa too. They operate 24-hr with lots of free flow of food and drinks for you to choose from. And they change their menu weekly. Adding on is the movie-on-demand. They also have this air-con smoking room to smoke to your content and satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 19/08/2017 at 5:41 PM, camus said: i can't seem to comment on the ten mens club thread? is it because i said i didn't like the renovated rooms were too dark? Since you posted this in Keybox forum, then why not you consider going to Keybox instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Can go g-Spa too. They operate 24-hr with lots of free flow of food and drinks for you to choose from. And they change their menu weekly. Adding on is the movie-on-demand. They also have this air-con smoking room to smoke to your content and satisfaction. Good place to smoke a Cigar or two !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 18/08/2017 at 5:36 PM, orangejava said: Hi guys, I have never been to KB before (perhaps I am worried meeting someone I know!) For a first timer, what is that ONE THING I should expect? Or is there somewhere better? Be honest, just curious, want to look-see-look-sees Dear orangejava, the one thing to note is just go with an open attitude. You do NOT have to worry of meeting someone you know. Unless you are an Office Holder with the Singapore Government or Minister or CEO of some Singapore Government-Linked Companies. I kept on emphasising Singapore Government-Linked is because under the Singapore Law, ALL civil servants are STRICTLY BARRED and BANNED from visiting such an establishment under the Civil Service Code of Conduct known as the Instruction Manual (I.M.). If you are not a civil servant, then by all means, do whatever you want under the preview and legally allowed under the Singapore Law. It is perfectly LEGAL to visit gay sauna(s) in Singapore if you are not a civil servant. It is extremely difficult to convict someone of raping you or caught having sex (men with men) in Singapore. Reason being that the victim would have to testify over a long period in Court and go for numerous Police statement taking, which really is extremely troublesome and time-consuming in Singapore, on top of appearing on Page 1 on the Singapore mainstream newspapers and Internet. On your other question of somewhere better, Keybox is the most value-for-money and good place to start off. In short, just go with an open mind and enjoy yourself. Meanwhile, play safe. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tomato Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Guest Solicitor said: Dear orangejava, the one thing to note is just go with an open attitude. You do NOT have to worry of meeting someone you know. Unless you are an Office Holder with the Singapore Government or Minister or CEO of some Singapore Government-Linked Companies. I kept on emphasising Singapore Government-Linked is because under the Singapore Law, ALL civil servants are STRICTLY BARRED and BANNED from visiting such an establishment under the Civil Service Code of Conduct known as the Instruction Manual (I.M.). If you are not a civil servant, then by all means, do whatever you want under the preview and legally allowed under the Singapore Law. It is perfectly LEGAL to visit gay sauna(s) in Singapore if you are not a civil servant. It is extremely difficult to convict someone of raping you or caught having sex (men with men) in Singapore. Reason being that the victim would have to testify over a long period in Court and go for numerous Police statement taking, which really is extremely troublesome and time-consuming in Singapore, on top of appearing on Page 1 on the Singapore mainstream newspapers and Internet. On your other question of somewhere better, Keybox is the most value-for-money and good place to start off. In short, just go with an open mind and enjoy yourself. Meanwhile, play safe. Hope this helps. Come on, I have seen civil servants in saunas before. What's so illegal with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Guest Tomato said: Come on, I have seen civil servants in saunas before. What's so illegal with that? Yes, you have seen. So do I. At the end of the day, it is the SAF Rule Number 07 that states "Do anything, don't get caught". It is 100% ILLEGAL for Singapore Government Civil Servant do visit such an establishment. If the Government want to find fault with you, then you would have no place to hide. Singapore is so small, you can run, but cannot hide. Especially so if you are nearing your retiring age and you screwed up, then all of your pensions are gone with the wind, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 21, 2017 Report Share Posted August 21, 2017 Example: Especially in Singapore's context, unless a medical doctor does something seriously and terribly wrong, then he or she could be suspended from practice (work as a doctor). Have you heard of one case in Singapore whereby a medical doctor, in this case, a Specialist doctor in the field of Plastic Surgery who was suspended for three (03) months for a case of [small] speeding (driving at about 90km/hr on a 80 km/hr marked road or so) and asking his then cleaner worker to take the rap for him?? This traffic incident is totally NOT related at all to the medical practice of the doctor. In the end, was fined S$2000.00 and was suspended for three (03) months. This big case was even debated in Parliament, press release and speech was given by both the Public Prosecutor for AGC and Law Minister. The investigation phase took very long time, about five years, then in the end, just a small fine of S$2000.00. Have you heard of any case besides this one whereby a [small] speeding case which does not include any fatality taking such long time to complete the investigation?? See URL link: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mr-shanmugam-ms-sylvia-lim-debate-woffles-wu-s-case-8377258 So, please do not say that it is not related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 6 hours ago, Guest Solicitor said: Yes, you have seen. So do I. At the end of the day, it is the SAF Rule Number 07 that states "Do anything, don't get caught". It is 100% ILLEGAL for Singapore Government Civil Servant do visit such an establishment. If the Government want to find fault with you, then you would have no place to hide. Singapore is so small, you can run, but cannot hide. Especially so if you are nearing your retiring age and you screwed up, then all of your pensions are gone with the wind, bro. So where should gay civil servants go ?. Park and public toilet ? Does that imply that no gays are allowed to work in the Civic Service ? Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 2 hours ago, LeanMature said: So where should gay civil servants go ?. Park and public toilet ? Does that imply that no gays are allowed to work in the Civic Service ? There are of course gays in the Civil Service. Just that they have to be discreet. You are right to the certain extent that since LKY era, it does not tolerate gays at all, until the current LHL era when it becomes more relaxed. Civil Servants can go where ever they want. Just that if they value their employment, then they should restrain themselves. Else, consider private employment instead. The Section 377A Gay Law is there. Whether they want to use it against you, is entire up to their discretion. Ok, hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 17 hours ago, Guest Tomato said: Come on, I have seen civil servants in saunas before. What's so illegal with that? Ok, lets play a game. Say, for example, repeat: for example only ... If you happen to know of one of your colleague who visit a gay sauna in Singapore and lets say that there is a Singapore Government Civil Service linked company promotion between you and the other colleague and that if you make a complain to the Public Service Division (PSD) , then he would have no more promotion. If worse, if spread, then there would highly be termination by asking that poor colleague for "automatic resignation". Understand now?? Office Politics. Go on and try it if you do not believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutejack Posted August 22, 2017 Report Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Guest Solicitor said: Ok, lets play a game. Say, for example, repeat: for example only ... If you happen to know of one of your colleague who visit a gay sauna in Singapore and lets say that there is a Singapore Government Civil Service linked company promotion between you and the other colleague and that if you make a complain to the Public Service Division (PSD) , then he would have no more promotion. If worse, if spread, then there would highly be termination by asking that poor colleague for "automatic resignation". Understand now?? Office Politics. Go on and try it if you do not believe. Just for the sake of money would one do such chepo thing.please la. Disturb others rice bowl n Get promotion n earn big money later wife give birth to retarded child.all the money earned will spend for that child.karma karma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_M Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 3 hours ago, myrtle said: anyone around tonight? Please do not post any ad in the main forum meant for discussion. This is friendly warning by the mod. The next ad posted in the main forum will get you a warning point. If you are not sure why you are getting this message go read the rules http://www.blowingwind.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=67&p=814014 GM Quote http://www.facebook.com/gachimuchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camus Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 0:44 PM, Guest Solicitor said: Dear orangejava, the one thing to note is just go with an open attitude. You do NOT have to worry of meeting someone you know. Unless you are an Office Holder with the Singapore Government or Minister or CEO of some Singapore Government-Linked Companies. I kept on emphasising Singapore Government-Linked is because under the Singapore Law, ALL civil servants are STRICTLY BARRED and BANNED from visiting such an establishment under the Civil Service Code of Conduct known as the Instruction Manual (I.M.). If you are not a civil servant, then by all means, do whatever you want under the preview and legally allowed under the Singapore Law. It is perfectly LEGAL to visit gay sauna(s) in Singapore if you are not a civil servant. It is extremely difficult to convict someone of raping you or caught having sex (men with men) in Singapore. Reason being that the victim would have to testify over a long period in Court and go for numerous Police statement taking, which really is extremely troublesome and time-consuming in Singapore, on top of appearing on Page 1 on the Singapore mainstream newspapers and Internet. On your other question of somewhere better, Keybox is the most value-for-money and good place to start off. In short, just go with an open mind and enjoy yourself. Meanwhile, play safe. Hope this helps. pls take a photo of this so called instruction manual and post it here and show us where it says civil servants cannot go gay sauna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, camus said: pls take a photo of this so called instruction manual and post it here and show us where it says civil servants cannot go gay sauna. Dear starlioned and camus, INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION L) - CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE states that Singapore Government Civil Servants CANNOT go Gay Saunas. I am replying herein for the information of others interested. Not another guest account. You have the full legal right not to follow or read, if you do not want to do so. This is sent and submitted from Singapore. If you think that there is any misleading or other criminal matters involved, you are strongly encouraged to make a NP299 Police Report. Authorities can track down the IP address of the computer and the user. Just that whether they want to enforce it or not. Yes, gay saunas are operating under the gym or sauna licence. You really think that the authorities really do not know what they are doing actually whereby all the rooms are furnished with toilet papers, condoms, lubricants, complete with mattress ?? The Instruction Manual (I.M.) thing is a Top Secret and Highly Classified document. Sounds like you are working in the civil service. Then in such case, ask directly from your ministry-in-charge. I do not have the cover photo or photo of the photoed section of the I.M. Act. However, it is Section 2 of the I.M. Even posting the cover photo or any parts of the Top Secret and Highly Classified document openly on forums or internet is indeed very serious criminal offence under the penal code chapter 224 and can be charged under the two offences: (1) Official Secret Act (OSA). http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId%3A3bc8b443-65c7-4c42-a4c3-49b650267c16 Depth%3A0 Status%3Ainforce;rec=0 (2) Misuse of Computer and Cybersecurity Act. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId:8a3534de-991c-4e0e-88c5-4ffa712e72af Status:inforce Depth:0;rec=0 Link to obtain the I.M.: http://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/government_records/record-details/111a742d-115a-11e3-83d5-0050568939ad Contact Info | Feedback | Sitemap | FAQs Government Records HOME ABOUT GOVERNMENT RECORDS HIGHLIGHTS FAQs CONTACT US Creating Agency: Management Services Department (MSD) Record Reference Number: O&M 43/84/013 VOL I Record Title: INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION L) - CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE Record Date: 1960-1968 Microfilm Number - Blip Number: MF 836 Conditions Governing Access: If you wish to read this file, written permission is required. Please submit a request and allow 10-12 weeks for processing. If you need to quote from and make copies of this file, a separate request may be required. Related records within Government Records Related records within Archives Online INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION A)REPORTS ON STAFF Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1969-1971 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION B)FINANCIAL CONTROL AND BUDGETING Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961-1971 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION A)REPORTS ON STAFF Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961-1967 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION G)TRANSPORT AND TRAVEL Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1960-1961 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION E)PAYMENTS Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961 1 2 3 4 5 ▶ Next 5 Copyright ©2017 National Archives You may write in, of course with the permission of your direct ministry-in-charge to obtain a copy of this I.M. Please note that they may or may not release it to you, depending on the various factors. Ok, enough of this I.M. discussion thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 18 hours ago, starlioned said: Utter bs. Again from another guest account. Are you even aware that the relaxation of the enforcing of 377A occured with LKY, when he admitted and accepted scientific findings that being gay is nature as well as nurture. U can refer to his famous international interviews witn CNN Larry King. As for the handbook, its bs. It might possibly apply to places of ill repute, but are you even aware what license gay saunas are running on? Its a gym/spa license and not something ill repute as you wrongly claim. Dun spread misinfo and mislead ppl... As for LHL he made promises that active enforcement will be standdown as to 377A to heal the rift caused by the issue in sg society. No one in the right mind will contradict the chief civil servant in his pledge? So buggert off. I further emphasize the post which was made earlier ... Quoted: "No one in the right mind will contradict the chief civil servant in his pledge? " Answer: And again, below is a classic example for someone who is punished for something which is even not related to the job which that person is doing. Get the point?? Original Posted Tuesday at 06:51 AM Example: Especially in Singapore's context, unless a medical doctor does something seriously and terribly wrong, then he or she could be suspended from practice (work as a doctor). Have you heard of one case in Singapore whereby a medical doctor, in this case, a Specialist doctor in the field of Plastic Surgery who was suspended for three (03) months for a case of [small] speeding (driving at about 90km/hr on a 80 km/hr marked road or so) and asking his then cleaner worker to take the rap for him?? This traffic incident is totally NOT related at all to the medical practice of the doctor. In the end, was fined S$2000.00 and was suspended for three (03) months. This big case was even debated in Parliament, press release and speech was given by both the Public Prosecutor for AGC and Law Minister. The investigation phase took very long time, about five years, then in the end, just a small fine of S$2000.00. Have you heard of any case besides this one whereby a [small] speeding case which does not include any fatality taking such long time to complete the investigation?? See URL link: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mr-shanmugam-ms-sylvia-lim-debate-woffles-wu-s-case-8377258 So, please do not say that it is not related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 18 hours ago, starlioned said: Utter bs. Again from another guest account. Are you even aware that the relaxation of the enforcing of 377A occured with LKY, when he admitted and accepted scientific findings that being gay is nature as well as nurture. U can refer to his famous international interviews witn CNN Larry King. As for the handbook, its bs. It might possibly apply to places of ill repute, but are you even aware what license gay saunas are running on? Its a gym/spa license and not something ill repute as you wrongly claim. Dun spread misinfo and mislead ppl... As for LHL he made promises that active enforcement will be standdown as to 377A to heal the rift caused by the issue in sg society. No one in the right mind will contradict the chief civil servant in his pledge? So buggert off. Ok, since you mentioned "utter bs", "buggert off" and releated, I challenge you to print out your post(s), my explanation(s) to your reporting ministry-in-charge, CC copy to AGC and challenge them directly, if you are a civil servant. If you got the guts. Else, please do not say that this is mis-information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camus Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Guest Solicitor said: Dear starlioned and camus, INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION L) - CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE states that Singapore Government Civil Servants CANNOT go Gay Saunas. I am replying herein for the information of others interested. Not another guest account. You have the full legal right not to follow or read, if you do not want to do so. This is sent and submitted from Singapore. If you think that there is any misleading or other criminal matters involved, you are strongly encouraged to make a NP299 Police Report. Authorities can track down the IP address of the computer and the user. Just that whether they want to enforce it or not. Yes, gay saunas are operating under the gym or sauna licence. You really think that the authorities really do not know what they are doing actually whereby all the rooms are furnished with toilet papers, condoms, lubricants, complete with mattress ?? The Instruction Manual (I.M.) thing is a Top Secret and Highly Classified document. Sounds like you are working in the civil service. Then in such case, ask directly from your ministry-in-charge. I do not have the cover photo or photo of the photoed section of the I.M. Act. However, it is Section 2 of the I.M. Even posting the cover photo or any parts of the Top Secret and Highly Classified document openly on forums or internet is indeed very serious criminal offence under the penal code chapter 224 and can be charged under the two offences: (1) Official Secret Act (OSA). http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId%3A3bc8b443-65c7-4c42-a4c3-49b650267c16 Depth%3A0 Status%3Ainforce;rec=0 (2) Misuse of Computer and Cybersecurity Act. http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/display/view.w3p;page=0;query=DocId:8a3534de-991c-4e0e-88c5-4ffa712e72af Status:inforce Depth:0;rec=0 Link to obtain the I.M.: http://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/government_records/record-details/111a742d-115a-11e3-83d5-0050568939ad Contact Info | Feedback | Sitemap | FAQs Government Records HOME ABOUT GOVERNMENT RECORDS HIGHLIGHTS FAQs CONTACT US Creating Agency: Management Services Department (MSD) Record Reference Number: O&M 43/84/013 VOL I Record Title: INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION L) - CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE Record Date: 1960-1968 Microfilm Number - Blip Number: MF 836 Conditions Governing Access: If you wish to read this file, written permission is required. Please submit a request and allow 10-12 weeks for processing. If you need to quote from and make copies of this file, a separate request may be required. Related records within Government Records Related records within Archives Online INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION A)REPORTS ON STAFF Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1969-1971 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION B)FINANCIAL CONTROL AND BUDGETING Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961-1971 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 2 (SECTION A)REPORTS ON STAFF Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961-1967 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION G)TRANSPORT AND TRAVEL Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1960-1961 INSTRUCTION MANUAL NO. 1 (SECTION E)PAYMENTS Government Record, Management Services Department (MSD), 1961 1 2 3 4 5 ▶ Next 5 Copyright ©2017 National Archives You may write in, of course with the permission of your direct ministry-in-charge to obtain a copy of this I.M. Please note that they may or may not release it to you, depending on the various factors. Ok, enough of this I.M. discussion thing. just sounds like fear mongering to me and no, i'm not a civil servant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Though not explicitly mentioned, the IM is aimed more at office bearers (Directors or managers level and above), not your rank and file civil servants. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kciv Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 No more free flow of condom at keybox anymore,if need hv to collect from the front counter n max only issue 2 condom,the 3rd condom will b chargable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 10:16 PM, LeanMature said: Though not explicitly mentioned, the IM is aimed more at office bearers (Directors or managers level and above), not your rank and file civil servants. Finally someone knows what I am saying. Although the IM aimed more at office bearers (Directors or managers level and above), rank and file civil servants can be affected too. In short, ALL civil servants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Solicitor Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 4:22 PM, starlioned said: This case example is unrelated to what we are discussing. The case took centre stage becos of an integrity issue, the accused tried to get someone to be the scapegoat for an offence he committed. He was duly prosecuted under the relavant traffic laws. Its unfortunate that the AGC linked the case to his professionalism After the case was Brought To public attention. But certain professions which demand extra scrutiny simply because of the weighy of their work. As to whether he was serving in the civil service carries another Potential Serious consideration, as integrity plays a non negotiatioble weightage in the CS. In quoting this case to support your arguements, you are no different from the AGC Who are accused/suspected of in stretching the lines of interpretation. The nature of your evidence is untenable to link to your claims of civil service provisions that are homophobic. You can be charged with inapproriate behavior irrespective of your status and where you do happen to commit certain acts. These are not civil service exclusive. My mistake was not in examing the url link you provided for the news, where the parliamentary questioning n debate occured. The Nature of the debate was over whether the surgeon was let off too lightly becos of favortism rather than your claim of Excessive persecution . No I am not with the CS, given the obvious lack of integrity in the case example You misquoted the facts, I too lazy to examine the IM links you provided. I will agree with you on one point that sg laws can be draconian in nature, but no system is perfect. Btm line : if you think something affects you, do your homework and go research and clarify. No one is trustworthy these days, myself included as I can be prone to err as I am Human. Lots of lame buggers who will attempt to mislead and misinfo. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Kciv said: No more free flow of condom at keybox anymore,if need hv to collect from the front counter n max only issue 2 condom,the 3rd condom will b chargable Depends. Sometimes there are still available in the rooms. Based on what I understand, if you need more, they will give it to you, free of charge. I do not know the limit. But be reasonable. If the counter staff on duty refused to give to you, look for John. In July 2017, one Chinese got banned for "stealing" about 300 condoms from Keybox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: Depends. Sometimes there are still available in the rooms. Based on what I understand, if you need more, they will give it to you, free of charge. I do not know the limit. But be reasonable. If the counter staff on duty refused to give to you, look for John. In July 2017, one Chinese got banned for "stealing" about 300 condoms from Keybox. Better also for those like to do openly...dun need find condom. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kciv Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 The 3rd condom is chargable was informed by the stuff n yday nt even a condom find in the room, upon your arrival they will straight pass u 1 condom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest a1beng Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/27/2017 at 11:25 AM, Kciv said: The 3rd condom is chargable was informed by the stuff n yday nt even a condom find in the room, upon your arrival they will straight pass u 1 condom 1 or 2 where got enough.. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kciv Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Haha think ok ba else play raw Lolz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlylonely Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Is there bed bugs? I got bitten on my right knee and calf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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