Keybox Sauna @ Upp Circular Rd (No Ads or Bitch fight)

[Guest Guest]

Where did homeless Tham seek refuge during renovation period?

[Guest Irritated]

I'm curious to know who is the staff with the nick of godly1989. Kinda irritated by his over enthusiasm. Hahahaha

[Guest Guest]

I'm curious to know who is the staff with the nick of godly1989. Kinda irritated by his over enthusiasm. Hahahaha

previously Heavenly1989, always looking for sex or fun in Queenstown.

[thickhead79]

any new report for new keybox?

[Guest Guest]

After the renovation would like to visit...its been a long long time since the last i went there. I wounder how is my old friend John doing?

 

going there with bf or alone???

[Guest Hunker]

The toilets & bathing area no change. Same size. The smoking room reduced by more than half. However there's no door now. The other half became storeroom.

The old jacuzzi tub is gone. They are replacing it with a new one next week. So KB will only open from 3pm onwards from 10 March Mon to 12 March Wednesday. Theres a few posters around announcing that.

The gym is smaller. The cross trainer walker is gone. Only left the arm press and that multi machine. The space has been taken over by lockers.

They have increased the number of lockers by a few rows/columns.

There are now about 12 rooms, I think. Not sure how many rooms before that. The new rooms have the mattress on the floor.

Basically the pathways in the maze is wider and brighter. The layout is different. No more roundabout.

The big dark room is now much bigger and more spacious. However, it is bit brighter than before. Hence less conducive.

[Guest Hunker]

Today very crowded cos its opening day. Lots of people walking around cos there are now less dark corners.

There's an old uncle with a belly that goes around touching people. Think thats Uncle Tham?? Haha.

The Melayu sisters not there so no loud chattering & modelling strutting.

However, today we all saw something new. This fair fleshy guy was lying on one of the beds with the door open and the lights on. He was wearing...bright red ladies bra and g string panties. Haha. His face was covered with a towel.

Think He was waiting for some one to come in & ravage him. Pity no takers. Wrong place la. Most of the guys who walked past can't believe their eyes. It was a good laugh though.

[thickhead79]

so did they buy over next door?

[Guest Hunker]

No they din buy over next door. Same premises. Just some renovation & reshuffling of space.

[Guest Hunker]

Dunno if they are going to install the door some time later? The smoking area now allow max 3 or 4 people. Now not smoking room. More like smoking corner.

So far when I was there, I saw ppl smoking but no smoke drifting to bath areas.

[thickhead79]

No they din buy over next door. Same premises. Just some renovation & reshuffling of space.

what a disappointment 

[Guest Guest]

I like the Panasonic airconditioner that cools the whole place evenly.

[Guest Hunker]

Haha Panasonic brand u also know? Place so dark, cant see the brand la.

Yeah they have a few new air cons.

[Guest Guest]

Panasonic aircond sale man lah......must say very good in marketing even here! Impressed

[Guest Guest]

Its my preferred brand. My house is like a Panasonic showroom; from rice cooker to washing machine to massage chair.....

[Guest Hunker]

Hmmm...more lockers to accommodate more people lor. More rooms. Basically that's it bah....the place limited in size, nothing much to renovate.

[Steve5380]

so on the  whole is the renovation an improvement  or uneccessary?

 

At least it seems that they didn't screw up with the renovation like Absolute did!

 

What they took away is no big loss:  the gym is worthless anyway;  the smoking room is an anachronism, should be replaced by a sealed hood on the head of the pitiful remaining smokers.  But a round-around in the maze is something positive: it fosters circulation, especially if it has some bottlenecks with low light to embolden the shy...

[Guest guest]

the renovation at the maze was good. But the smoking area and the new steamroom was not so good.  management please listen to customers feedback.The old steam room is much better.

 

[Guest keyboxer]

... the new steamroom was not so good. management please listen to customers feedback.The old steam room is much better.

What type of feedback is this? Pls be specific when giving feedback.

What's renovated cannot be undone, no point telling the mgmt that the old steam room is better. Are you expecting them to redo the steam room back to the old design? And what is the use of renovating when it will turn out to be like the old one?

What you can do now is to suggest SPECIFIC improvement to the new steamroom.

Btw, I suspect you are from competitve sauna.

[ninamah]

Review

New maze and rooms

New maze keeping some of the old structure, now has 3 entrances to room with one door from the toilet. Interesting twist.retained some old elements of maze.

Steam room.

Steam room removed the little corners inside partitioning it into two separate areas. You enter the room and facing you is a wall, you can go either left or right. However behind the wall is a glass partition that iswall to wall. Meaning to go from the left side to right u will need to go near the door. Resulting in patrons having this more green grass on the other side mentality. I super duper dislike this new structure. Please consider having an opening to cross to the otherside. Like a round circle. Imagine we are like fish, we need to swim in circles.

Unfortunately the Jacuzzi is not done yet, I suspect it's still boarded up, but looks like a custom one which is much bigger than the old one.

Smoking area

Way too small is the tiny smoking area. As a smoker myself, I do not like to a hindrance to others. The current tiny alley has no proper ventilation, it also does not stop the smoke from getting to the showers or lockers. I can't think of any constructive changes at this time other then a good ventilation fan and a wind curtain with those big flappy curtains.

Tv areas pretty much the same. Gym cut down to accomModate more lockers.

Had this moaner in e maze that was pretty fit, who orgasmed so hard and getting groped. His moans and gasps had me concerned had to ask him if he was alright. in between moans he replied, I love it this way.. lol.... That's all folks. Phew.....

[ninamah]

yes and yes,  doorless design....   wont smell of smoke so easiily lah... unless you are inside a 2x2m  smoking room....

[Guest Guest]

The current smoking area with 2 step (previously the mahjong room) will be the new Jacuzzi.

[Steve5380]

Steam room.

Steam room removed the little corners inside partitioning it into two separate areas. You enter the room and facing you is a wall, you can go either left or right. However behind the wall is a glass partition that iswall to wall. Meaning to go from the left side to right u will need to go near the door. Resulting in patrons having this more green grass on the other side mentality. I super duper dislike this new structure. Please consider having an opening to cross to the other side. Like a round circle. Imagine we are like fish, we need to swim in circles.

 

 

I agree with you.  Circulation is renovation, new expectations  to find hot flesh in the next round around.  It should not be difficult to modify the wall-to-wall partition to open a small pass way through it.  Restrictions are good because they bring people closer together when they walk through. 

[ninamah]

oh yes,  i  got one of the new lockers in the 130s  once the locker is opened  you  pretty much block up the whole pathway....

[Respell19]

hi everyone, allow me to give my little modest feedback regarding the new layout.

 

the good points:

1) more lockers

2) more spacious

3) nice configuration at the gym side/new tv resting area

4) all the rooms are well-equipped with no faulty lightings (and hope it'll stay this way)

 

the bad points:

1) smoking area is way too compromised in terms of space. and it should be sealed with a door so the non-smokers wouldn't be affected

2) management took too much emphasis on designing the dark room layout which i thought has taken much of the space that could actually be utilised to build a few more rooms. simply put, there isn't enough rooms and what i saw was that a lot of people are waiting for rooms outside.

3) the new steam room layout is horrible. very very horrible. please revert back to the old design. 

4) and please la, for all the gods in the universe sake, the new area is so bloody confined already the usual few uncles still want to play their stupid mahjong there. can't they learn to exercise some courtesy and environmental awareness to cater to the needs for all its patrons? 

[Guest guest]

Respell19 later keyboxer claim you  from  competitive sauna  giving  bad comments.As he have mention wat done is done , U expect them to put back the old design ? Than wats is the purpose of renovation

 

[Guest keyboxer]

Respell19 later keyboxer claim you from competitive sauna giving bad comments.As he have mention wat done is done , U expect them to put back the old design ? Than wats is the purpose of renovation

Oh please... at least he gave some good reccomendations.

And yes, it is impossibe to undo what has been already put up.

[Guest Guest]

i think the mahjong there is really cock.

 

how many ppl actually play mahjong...only appeal to the regular ah peks there. if they want play mahjong, GO HOME AND PLAY

[nicenewyorker]

haven't been to KB forever...maybe I shall go and do my own survey then report back

[Guest keyboxer]

haven't been to KB forever...maybe I shall go and do my own survey then report back

Oh yes, me too. Will probably pay a visit on Tue if not too busy and give my own report here.

[Bptop88]

didnt know keybox had change layout haha that shown how long i didnt visit lor >.< 

but neverless...  the ppl playing majong is the owner friend. from what i knew.  

[Guest Guest]

didnt know keybox had change layout haha that shown how long i didnt visit lor >.< 

but neverless...  the ppl playing majong is the owner friend. from what i knew.  

strip mah-jong? hehe

[swimboi]

Nice to have big spacious corridors for a change. The biggest qualm would really have to be the open smoking area. When there's a crowd, it's like someone threw a smoke grenade. You can smell it from the lockers and shower areas.

[Guest Raiden Alpha]

It just a little smoke and you all whine non stop about it. It's not a german gas chamber. How to bring you frogs out to ktv and clubbing next time?

If you can do a blowjob you all better learn to appreciate a cigarette and a big Cuban cigar too.

[keithted]

I really don't like the design of the new steam room! The old layout was definitely much more better!

[Guest guest]

keithted later leyboxer say u from competitors sauna.Dont anyhow give bad comments.Give bad comments must have a reason. why u dunt like the layout?

[Respell19]

It just a little smoke and you all whine non stop about it. It's not a german gas chamber. How to bring you frogs out to ktv and clubbing next time?

If you can do a blowjob you all better learn to appreciate a cigarette and a big Cuban cigar too.

 

Be considerate to the non-smokers. Also, your analogy is bad and you should feel bad. Peace.

[Guest guest111]

Was there and although I like the new design including the dark room but

 

1. Mahjong table should be gone. Like another person said, want to play mahjong, go home and play

2. I don't mind uncle go there, but I don't like some of their attitude.

3. I think the light at the pathway through the gym and bathroom etc are too bright just so those people can play mahjong. Hate it

4. Smoking room with no door. That is bad for none smoker like me. And if anyone felt we over complain about it, come and let us none smoker fart on your face, is that ok with you, then we will be ok with the smoke too cause that how I felt when inhaling your second hand smoke.

5. Oh ya, I think ppl from outside can see inside cause the metal flame which is at the other side of the smoking room got hole in it.

6. The staff there is rude like everyone own him money.

 

oh ya, is it just me or Uncle Tham working there now.

[Guest keyboxer]

keithted later leyboxer say u from competitors sauna.Dont anyhow give bad comments.Give bad comments must have a reason. why u dunt like the layout?

Oh pls grow up kid.

Now lets say if u have just renovated your hse, and your family doesnt like the unique design, will u tear the reno down and redo it?

[Guest keyboxer]

It just a little smoke and you all whine non stop about it. It's not a german gas chamber. How to bring you frogs out to ktv and clubbing next time?

If you can do a blowjob you all better learn to appreciate a cigarette and a big Cuban cigar too.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought most clubs have banned smoking in their premises? And I remember the few clubs I went to, either they have enclosed smoking room or the smokers are seated outside where the smoking area is.

[Guest Raiden Alpha]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought most clubs have banned smoking in their premises? And I remember the few clubs I went to, either they have enclosed smoking room or the smokers are seated outside where the smoking area is.

Well the clubs you frequent are likely to be different from the ones I frequent in.

(Not directed at you)

Anyway learn to be more open heart and adopt a give and take approach when one come across smoker and a smoker environment. Try to avoid the area or don't visit the premise if one can't stand it. Whining and bitching is not sexy. It come across as pampered,entitled and spoiled instead.

People won't get lung cancer just because of a few short seconds exposure to 2nd hand smoke.

[Guest keyboxer]

Well the clubs you frequent are likely to be different from the ones I frequent in.

(Not directed at you)

Anyway learn to be more open heart and adopt a give and take approach when one come across smoker and a smoker environment. Try to avoid the area or don't visit the premise if one can't stand it. Whining and bitching is not sexy. It come across as pampered,entitled and spoiled instead.

People won't get lung cancer just because of a few short seconds exposure to 2nd hand smoke.

I dont think they are directing at the smokers, they are directing at the no-common-sense doorless design. And personally I feel that a sauna should be a non smoking environment.

[Guest Guest]

Nice to have big spacious corridors for a change. The biggest qualm would really have to be the open smoking area. When there's a crowd, it's like someone threw a smoke grenade. You can smell it from the lockers and shower areas.

This is to comply with Fire Safety Regulation to have a clear unobstructed path in case of fire.

I believe other saunas in Chinatown have already done their reno because of that.

[Guest Guest]

Well the clubs you frequent are likely to be different from the ones I frequent in.

(Not directed at you)

Anyway learn to be more open heart and adopt a give and take approach when one come across smoker and a smoker environment. Try to avoid the area or don't visit the premise if one can't stand it. Whining and bitching is not sexy. It come across as pampered,entitled and spoiled instead.

People won't get lung cancer just because of a few short seconds exposure to 2nd hand smoke.

 

Ok why not the open heart and adopt a give and take approach being smoker dont smoke in a close premises. Thanks ah!!

People wont get lung cancer yes but a bit here, a bit there, wow lung cancer here it come.

 

Yes I do agreed that it is common sense. 

Also, close environment and with aircon, no smoking is allowed. That basically singapore law. Just just shopping mall, you cant smoke in the toilet. 

[Steve5380]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought most clubs have banned smoking in their premises? And I remember the few clubs I went to, either they have enclosed smoking room or the smokers are seated outside where the smoking area is.

 

Keybox sauna is so small that it is difficult if not impossible to accommodate the smokers without introducing a very real hardship to the non-smokers.  In this situation, the balance should tip in favor of the non-smokers.  But there could be a way out:  the sauna could give the smokers a short term (15 minutes?) pass to leave and return so they can do whatever smoking outside on the street.  Maybe the repeated dressing/undressing could be a distraction that helps them kick the habit 

Edited March 10, 2014 by Steve5380

[Guest keyboxer]

Ok, as promised, here is my feedback for the new layout.

Basically it has become more spacious in the maze, and brighter too. Because of this new layout and lighting, you can see more action going on in the supposingly dark area. And now the vampires do not dare to play rough without the cover of darkness.

I presume the unfinished jacuzzi will be just next to the smoking area. So, like what the above poster has said, things may be even better after the completion of the reno. Who knows they may add a door after getting the jacuzzi done. I personally think that there should be a door to separate the smoking area from the sitting area outside the steam room. I think I can smell smoke in the steam room. But the steam room was full of people and action. By the way, I don't really mind the wall parting the steam room. Yes it makes the steam room darker, but I think it is fun to be able to check out the guys and action on both sides. My suggestion for the wall is to create some GLORY HOLES on it, so that guys from one side can be blown by guys from the other side. I think this will make the wall more useful and justifiable.

And yes, the partial see through glass partition for the shower room is a good change. But now people tend to choose the side with the wall partition to shower. And less hanky panky going on in the shower room since it has become brighter and can be seen from outside through the glass partition.

Pls put back the curtain at the entrance near the TV lounge so that we won't feel too uncomfortable while changing our towel at the counter. And yes, the locker areas are too bright, making us easy targets to be shot or videod by people sitting there with handphones.

Has the quality of KB crowd dropped? Seems to have more uncles now. And the young ones are mostly not fit. But of course there were a few eye candies. I remember last time used to have very fit and cute cadets, esp on Tue. But thank goodness no chatty models parading in the maze.

[Guest Guest]

Was there and although I like the new design including the dark room but

 

1. Mahjong table should be gone. Like another person said, want to play mahjong, go home and play

2. I don't mind uncle go there, but I don't like some of their attitude.

3. I think the light at the pathway through the gym and bathroom etc are too bright just so those people can play mahjong. Hate it

4. Smoking room with no door. That is bad for none smoker like me. And if anyone felt we over complain about it, come and let us none smoker fart on your face, is that ok with you, then we will be ok with the smoke too cause that how I felt when inhaling your second hand smoke.

5. Oh ya, I think ppl from outside can see inside cause the metal flame which is at the other side of the smoking room got hole in it.

6. The staff there is rude like everyone own him money.

 

oh ya, is it just me or Uncle Tham working there now.

Gosh,   homeless Tham now becomes janitor Tham !!!!!!! I will be checking his work attitude soon.

[yhtang]

There has been much talk on the smoking room with no door. 

 

I am not a smoker, and I do not like the lingering smell of cigarette smoke on my clothes.  But that is personal.  I am not saying the smokers should be removed or banned - I am not suggesting that at all.  Neither am I advocating the removal of the smoking room. 

 

Since the smoking room has no door, perhaps a solution would be a (few?) suction fan(s) to suck the cigarette smoke to the exterior of the building. 

 

Of course, if the door to the smoking room is to be installed soon, then the present smoke smell would have to be endured by the non-smokers - but Keybox, please get the bloody door fixed quickly!

[Guest Hunkie]

The jacuzzi will be up these few days. ..then we will see lor.

Anyway, the smoke not that bad la. Better then the haze out there. As long as u dun linger too long at the smoking area.

I have sensitive nose prone to allergies n smoke and I m still ok there.

[Guest Guest666]

Does any of your have the feeling that keybox from a public sauna now become like some people private club.