Keybox Sauna @ Upp Circular Rd (No Ads or Bitch fight)

[abang]

I became a member of this establishment some 2 to 3 years ago and throughout this period, I have yet to receive any news or should you even want to say, nonsense from Keybox.  

 

They have the right to verify your age and why are we bother with emails and such.. and you have the right to move to somewhere that does not require such procedure.  The onus is yours and you, the potential client, has the right to avoid the sauna if you think they are "too much"...

 

如果真的不爽， 可选择别家。。。

我都没收到过他们的来电/电邮。。 甭怕。。

[Guest Joey]

Recently I chatted with a 65 year old uncle in Ten men. He told me he & his mature frens like KB best cos it's clean and cheapest. Cheapest cos got free 2 pass then if u enter before a certain time...

Now entry is $10 before 5pm.

Anyway I asked him if he can get any guys there since majority is twinks. He said...yeah. ..many twinks like mature...

I know one twink who looks like 吴奇隆 and he only wants old man to suck him dry. He is a keybox regular.

There is one very good looking and exotic Indian guy, frequent patron of One Seven. He is top and his target is ONLY old man. I saw him fucking a super fat old man in the steam room. Raw.

Everyone has his preference. Not all like fresh meat. 红烧肉 sometimes left overnight can be more delicious.

[GachiMuchi]

Yes, absolutely true and correct. Hercules also does not have this system.

Even straight saunas and spas do not have this procedure of showing identity card.

Key box should just allow those with old card to renew without showing IC. Many would think twice of patronizing Key box if it still persists with this requirement.

Well, I am sure, those establishment you mentioned don't allow free entry into their premises.

 

Since Keybox allow free access for those 18 - 24, and discount for certain groups during theme nite, I am sure they have a right to check the info provided by the customer.

 

You will be surprised how many cheapo would want to bluff about their age just because they can get away with it, so that they can enjoy free entry or some special discount during theme nite.

 

if you are not guilty of providing false info, why should you be worried about your info being verified?... Unless 你心里有鬼!

 

 

For those of you whom are worried or concern about the recording and checking of these details, I can say now, you can forget about going. No point arguing left, right, center. That is their entry policy. Take it or leave it.

See, I know some of you will be trying to argue, left right, center about the checking of IC.

Like I've mentioned earlier.

 

That is their entry policy. Take it or leave it.

[Guest Ivan K]

I went to Keybox today. The first top who fucked me was a Chinese in his 30s. I am very satisfied as he is an eight incher XL top.

Then I got another young guy (just finished his NS). When he was near to his climax, he pulled out his condom and fucked me raw. I was shocked. When I tried to get up, he withdrew and shot his cum on my face.

As a sauna goer, I am definitely a slut. But that doesn't mean I want to engage in unprotected sex. This is not the first time I kana RAW from the younger gen.

Safe sex please !

[Guest Guest]

u need to go for testing. good luck.

[Guest guest]

May be they will send you CNY Hampers or Social Visit to your home to say hello to your Folks...or even send your folks your visitation records, or be in for a good surprise

Huh, really? Keybox got sent hampers for CNY! How about valentine's day, do they sent chocolate too?

[Guest Dong]

No la. No hampers or presents.

But if got murder or rape or drug case, they will send police to interview u lor...

But seriously, if some one contact Hiv via a visit at Kb, will KB reveal the data of guys present that day for Hiv contact tracing?

[Guest Dong]

Less than 1 week opening, already so many negative feedback......OMG.....on the line to closure....if the rest picks up in customer service , hygiene and rates and competition.

The personal data thing is old issue. Been KB policy all these years.

The spy camera thing happens in all saunas. Common where there are smart phones and inconsiderate people around.

[snowball]

怕-别去 ; 去就别钻牛角尖 ,

每个人都有自己的一套经营手法 ，

光顾与否，选择权在于自己。

[Steve5380]

Those spy cam videos are so terribly boring... who wants to look at that?  Waste of smartphone memory.

[topUgood]

Any update of the new kb?

[Guest Guest666]

And how come Shogun & Ten men no need?? Get yr facts right. Not required by law!

 

You expect them to get the fact right? Forger it. They just talk whatever they want cause there are always people who believe them.

People accused me of being sour grape. I think they are the one who are either KB ppl or those who let small brain do all the thinking.

Yes not happy me accuse or insult you, then you should not do the same. You spit shit, you get shit.

[rawbird]

If dun like ic to be seen then dun go lo~~

 

I think its no big deal but this really give haters a chance to blow it up

 

 

[DerekTan1970]

Any field reports?

[G_M]

Was informed by the management of Keybox that the dry sauna next to the steam room will open after CNY.

[navyblue]

Was informed by the management of Keybox that the dry sauna next to the steam room will open after CNY.

Sorry, what is a dry sauna?

[Keybox]

Hey everyone!

 

Thank you, GM and the many other supporters, who have come to see our new playground and showed us their firm support as we open once again! We certainly cannot do this without your support all these years. We have had so many great compliments so far about our new home but we commit to strive to improve for your enjoyment.

 

Many have give feedback about our need to record your identification during your membership application process. We have clarified and been instructed that as a private membership club, we are required to maintain a members register for operation. This is a legal requirement and we are unfortunately unable to compromise on that. As a compliant establishment that wants to provide a safe and enjoyable experience, we hope for your understanding and cooperation on this matter. On our end, we continue to make every effort in safeguarding your personal data to our best effort.

 

All these years we continue to welcome guys of varying ages and may require to verify your identification in order for you to enjoy the privileges from time to time. Our trademark and commitment remains to provide a wonderful place for all to enjoy and have a good time. We have made every effort to improve our facilities and even move to a bigger and better playground for a bigger and better experience!

 

Do note (Only from now till 10 March 2015!):

• Existing Keybox members can exchange for a new membership card FREE,

• Existing One-Seven members exchange for a fee of $5.

• New members only pay $10 for a lifetime membership.

 

Our details are as follows:

 

Keybox

17 Upper Circular Road (Behind The Riverwalk)

Singapore 058415.

Tel: (+65) 62994121

 

Nearest MRT: Clarke Quay MRT station.

 

Come and enjoy the new Keybox today!

[Bptop88]

Well we have done nothing to the deceased, right?

There was stories how haunted Chinatown was ... tales dated back to the WW2 (60 years of terrorising..).

So pay respect to those who parted and they will leave us alone.

 

agree with you bro  

 

if not , spoke evil , evil will find you  HAHA  

I hope can go visit too. hope the 1-7 outdoor pool still there >.< 

[Bptop88]

Sorry, what is a dry sauna?

 

Dry Sauna, should be the type not using steam/water to warm the room, 

but use those hot heater type to warm the room , that why call dry sauna  

1-7 used to have. but didnt use , since my last visit in dec.  

before them close and upgrad which now become KEYBOX! YA~~ HAHA

[mate69]

Hey everyone!

 

Thank you, GM and the many other supporters, who have come to see our new playground and showed us their firm support as we open once again! We certainly cannot do this without your support all these years. We have had so many great compliments so far about our new home but we commit to strive to improve for your enjoyment.

 

Many have give feedback about our need to record your identification during your membership application process. We have clarified and been instructed that as a private membership club, we are required to maintain a members register for operation. This is a legal requirement and we are unfortunately unable to compromise on that. As a compliant establishment that wants to provide a safe and enjoyable experience, we hope for your understanding and cooperation on this matter. On our end, we continue to make every effort in safeguarding your personal data to our best effort.

 

All these years we continue to welcome guys of varying ages and may require to verify your identification in order for you to enjoy the privileges from time to time. Our trademark and commitment remains to provide a wonderful place for all to enjoy and have a good time. We have made every effort to improve our facilities and even move to a bigger and better playground for a bigger and better experience!

 

Do note (Only from now till 10 March 2015!):

• Existing Keybox members can exchange for a new membership card FREE,

• Existing One-Seven members exchange for a fee of $5.

• New members only pay $10 for a lifetime membership.

 

Our details are as follows:

 

Keybox

17 Upper Circular Road (Behind The Riverwalk)

Singapore 058415.

Tel: (+65) 62994121

 

Nearest MRT: Clarke Quay MRT station.

 

Come and enjoy the new Keybox today!

Would be great if your website is up and running too.

[navyblue]

Dry Sauna, should be the type not using steam/water to warm the room,

but use those hot heater type to warm the room , that why call dry sauna

Thanks

[Guest XT]

I think the issue is not about checking your IC but on needing one to fill in your IC number on the membership form. There is no requirement by law to do that. In fact it may even be wrong to take down IC number without a proper data protection policy in place. No other sauna takes down your IC number except KB.

And yes I have a choice, I didnt want to write down my IC number when I visited, so I didnt left without entering.

[Topdownunder]

What about foreigners ? What do we have to show to get in?

Pardon the pun.

[topUgood]

Yesterday i wanted to visit kb. Was outside (away from the entrance) checking if somebody will go in. I was there for quite some time but nver see anybody going in + the area so open sia not really good for discreet like me. So dicided to visit tmc.

[Guest Guest666]

Hey everyone!

 

Thank you, GM and the many other supporters, who have come to see our new playground and showed us their firm support as we open once again! We certainly cannot do this without your support all these years. We have had so many great compliments so far about our new home but we commit to strive to improve for your enjoyment.

 

Many have give feedback about our need to record your identification during your membership application process. We have clarified and been instructed that as a private membership club, we are required to maintain a members register for operation. This is a legal requirement and we are unfortunately unable to compromise on that. As a compliant establishment that wants to provide a safe and enjoyable experience, we hope for your understanding and cooperation on this matter. On our end, we continue to make every effort in safeguarding your personal data to our best effort.

 

All these years we continue to welcome guys of varying ages and may require to verify your identification in order for you to enjoy the privileges from time to time. Our trademark and commitment remains to provide a wonderful place for all to enjoy and have a good time. We have made every effort to improve our facilities and even move to a bigger and better playground for a bigger and better experience!

 

Do note (Only from now till 10 March 2015!):

• Existing Keybox members can exchange for a new membership card FREE,

• Existing One-Seven members exchange for a fee of $5.

• New members only pay $10 for a lifetime membership.

 

Our details are as follows:

 

Keybox

17 Upper Circular Road (Behind The Riverwalk)

Singapore 058415.

Tel: (+65) 62994121

 

Nearest MRT: Clarke Quay MRT station.

 

Come and enjoy the new Keybox today!

 

 

 

Yes is everyone choice. 

You can skip, pay S$22 without need to show IC or register as member and show IC. 

The problem here is the price different. So lots of ppl don't feel comfortable to pay more.

Anyway, is your choice. We don't own Keybox, so we no right to tell the management how to run their business.

[Guest cck28]

what facilities are there now?

[Guest Gary71]

Yes is everyone choice. 

You can skip, pay S$22 without need to show IC or register as member and show IC. 

The problem here is the price different. So lots of ppl don't feel comfortable to pay more.

Anyway, is your choice. We don't own Keybox, so we no right to tell the management how to run their business.

So actually no requirement to register IC number but a ploy by keybox  to make more $ for entry charge?

what rubbish legal requirement!

sibeh lame.

[Guest Dont anyhow take IC number]

I think the issue is not about checking your IC but on needing one to fill in your IC number on the membership form. There is no requirement by law to do that. In fact it may even be wrong to take down IC number without a proper data protection policy in place. No other sauna takes down your IC number except KB.

And yes I have a choice, I didnt want to write down my IC number when I visited, so I didnt left without entering.

Yes, agree with XT.

 

The Keybox management should carefully think whether real identification number of an individual is really necessary to have.  It is really a burden to maintain a database containing members' personal information.  What is the database to be used for?  Can each Keybox staff have access and view members' information through the database?  If so, it may be subject to abuse and misuse.  And in the case of a raid, does the police have the right to access this database? 

 

Keybox management should realize that it is fully accountable to preserve the integrity and security of the members' database.  There are stringent requirements laid down by the authorities.  And management should acquaint itself of the Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) which came into law recently.

 

If I remember correctly, I wasn't asked for my identification card when I joined Keybox as a member in its old premises at North Bridge Rd.  I filled in a form and gave some information which I cooked up, and then a membership card was handed to me without me having to produce documentary evidence.

 

In light of anti-gay laws still in existence, I am rather worried what will happen to my particulars once I have given it to Keybox.  For this reason, I won't be exchanging my old card for a new one anytime soon.  I don't want my real personal particulars to be recorded ever in a gay club.

 

Why can't Keybox do a 1-for-1 card exchange for former members, without having them to provide some form of document for verification???  Or why can't Keybox just take whatever is in the application form as final without the need to verify with an official document, unless the applicant overly fabricates the information, especially his age, in order to benefit from lower entry fees???

[Guest passerby]

Yes is everyone choice.

You can skip, pay S$22 without need to show IC or register as member and show IC.

The problem here is the price different. So lots of ppl don't feel comfortable to pay more.

Anyway, is your choice. We don't own Keybox, so we no right to tell the management how to run their business.

Yep. Take it or leave it. They asked me for my ic anyways and i didnt mind giving them bcoz i heard them repeating the same thing over and over again when the annoying people keep asking why must show.

Just show and finish story. Why make their life difficult?

[teatree]

It is not a requirement to provide NRIC even it is a private membership club.  The only agencies that required your NRIC are government departments, banks and hospitals. Of course, your employers too.    For verification of entry purpose, name and DOB and photo is good enough. 

[navyblue]

Yep. Take it or leave it. They asked me for my ic anyways and i didnt mind giving them bcoz i heard them repeating the same thing over and over again when the annoying people keep asking why must show.

Just show and finish story. Why make their life difficult?

The main point now is not about showing for verification purposes only, is about allowing them to have records of our personal particulars.

This has already turned away many closeted gays, so I am sure it has definitely scared off lots of married or attached men too.

Just wondering, when straight men go nightclubs to fool around, do they have to produce ICs at the entrance too?

[Plus]

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Edited April 15, 2017 by Plus

[Guest Guest666]

So actually no requirement to register IC number but a ploy by keybox  to make more $ for entry charge?

what rubbish legal requirement!

sibeh lame.

I did not said that. I only said there are three choices. If you don't want to register as member, you still can pay full price and go in. That all I said.

However, this is very simple to settle. Any lawyer frd here can clarify this?

[Guest Guest]

Just visited Keybox. Very good experience. Great facilities available. Probably up to be the most comprehensive around especially for what you will look for in a sauna.

Had such a fun time. Staff were polite and helpful. And the patrons were also great...

[Guest MissOldKB]

Just find that the old keybox is better although the new keybox is quite big.Jacuzzi big toilet big bathroom big maze big.Then no can drink no noodle.But had great experience. Got handjob by a fit muscle guy when i walk near two guys having fun. Not really used to the new keybox.

[Enelym1978]

Complain complain complain..... zzzzzzzzzzzz

 

Anything else new?

 

If really you're that paranoid..... don't go. If KB keeps asking and recording IC numbers and loses customers.... then too bad for them.... but seriously, the last few pages were just about this IC/ID recording issue....      

[Night]

Agreed. On one hand customer disclosing personal info has the right to know what is it for but most importantly, on the other hand Keybox has to understand the responsibility of holding such info. It is the responsibility as business owner (put aside the nature of this business first), it is not just toward customer but also to the owner in terms of risk and sustainability too. For example, when such info being leaked out due to any unintentional act, what might happen to the customers, and now, due to the implementation of PDPA, it is going to to affect the business too if Keybox needs to pay huge amount of fine.

For most businesses including technology firms, the practice is always to ensure internal systems, process and policy are engineered and controlled properly to safeguard such info. Additionally, some companies even communicate what is it for and why is that necessary explicitly and clearly. Why they have to do this? One of the reasons is they don't want to get into trouble.

Of course maybe the main approach adopted by those businesses is not very feasible for Keybox but I thought Keybox can at least be a bit more transparent in the explanation, telling customer why is that really necessary and how is the info being managed. I hope that will help Keybox and customers clearing most of the concern (assuming the info still have to be recorded) and continue enjoying the facilities provided.

Yes, agree with XT.

The Keybox management should carefully think whether real identification number of an individual is really necessary to have. It is really a burden to maintain a database containing members' personal information. What is the database to be used for? Can each Keybox staff have access and view members' information through the database? If so, it may be subject to abuse and misuse. And in the case of a raid, does the police have the right to access this database?

Keybox management should realize that it is fully accountable to preserve the integrity and security of the members' database. There are stringent requirements laid down by the authorities. And management should acquaint itself of the Personal Data Protection Act (PDPA) which came into law recently.

If I remember correctly, I wasn't asked for my identification card when I joined Keybox as a member in its old premises at North Bridge Rd. I filled in a form and gave some information which I cooked up, and then a membership card was handed to me without me having to produce documentary evidence.

In light of anti-gay laws still in existence, I am rather worried what will happen to my particulars once I have given it to Keybox. For this reason, I won't be exchanging my old card for a new one anytime soon. I don't want my real personal particulars to be recorded ever in a gay club.

Why can't Keybox do a 1-for-1 card exchange for former members, without having them to provide some form of document for verification??? Or why can't Keybox just take whatever is in the application form as final without the need to verify with an official document, unless the applicant overly fabricates the information, especially his age, in order to benefit from lower entry fees???

[Guest KB Guest]

What I like about new KB on my recent afternoon experience : Spacious, clean, retains the old KB style, friendly staff, affordable entrance fees, stratigic opening hour (at 12 noon), huge maze, comparatively younger crowd

What I dislike, or areas could be improved on : Prefer old KB location (suck thumb), steam room not working, old rusty gym equipments, provide magazines n newspaper for leisure reading

Will be a great place if some little improvements could be made.

[onlylonely]

My card is kept w kb. Can I still renew it for free?

[navyblue]

Complain complain complain..... zzzzzzzzzzzz

Anything else new?

If really you're that paranoid..... don't go. If KB keeps asking and recording IC numbers and loses customers.... then too bad for them.... but seriously, the last few pages were just about this IC/ID recording issue....

U suggest we don't go KB, then may I also suggest u don't read this thread.

It is easy for a foreigner to say we locals are paranoid, simply because their families and friends are not here in Sg. So if there is any leakage of personal particulars, these buggers will not have to face their families and friends whereas we locals have to. And we may lost our jobs too.

They can fuk and go, but most of us cannot.

So I hope those foreign dudes would put on their thinking cap first before making a point here.

Edited February 14, 2015 by navyblue

[Guest Guest]

Or keybox can just throw away the whole membership thing and charge like TMC. Problem solved.

It is a computer in the office. I doubt any good security protection.

People can just download the data and blackmail u or put it on the internet. Happy explain that to your family, employer and etc

Also, we all see how people can bring their mobile into the dark maze or etc. so I rather doubt the management ability to protect our privacy

[Guest KB Guest]

I think KB can, and should enforce the "No Mobile" rule in certain areas to safeguard patrons' interests. It is done in many saunas overseas

[Shawt Sunny]

[Steve5380]

On the IC record matter. I think KB should consider deeply on this matter again.

 

1. By asking anyone to record their IC in this case will most probably upset patrons. I cant imagine what each staff had to go through explaining so many clients from the day they open. Why let the staff go through this all the time? No good for staffs, not good for patrons. Ugly scene.

 

2. Management should start thinking: Maybe they can request to show IC for verification at the initial registration process to get the membership card done. They can just keep the record of the birth year for record. Theme nights go by age not by IC number. Makes sense?

 

2. Even lucky draw coupon has modified from filling in full IC number to last four digits. IC should not be given to any establishment easily.

 

3. KB had last closed down without any notice showed how irresponsible they were. They were not as responsible and professional as they said. How can they redeem themselves by asking for IC and promised they will keep they safe?

 

Yes, the business can run however they like, BUT business should consider the needs of most of the clients if they want their business to florish. It's all about giving the best service. In the best of the client. A successful establishment listens to the needs of the customers. Hope they would make the change soon. Make it a win-win situation.

 

I think you make a lot of sense.  A photo ID to verify the age at the time the membership card is issued.  Age is all what should matter to them.  Then, when one checks in with the card, the age pops up. 

 

And you are right that this business which kept its website up and running for a long time after they closed down,  giving the impression that they were open and hurting who knows how many who showed up only to find a locked door...   this business is totally irresponsible and lacks consideration.

[Steve5380]

Hey everyone!

 

Thank you, GM and the many other supporters, who have come to see our new playground and showed us their firm support as we open once again! We certainly cannot do this without your support all these years. We have had so many great compliments so far about our new home but we commit to strive to improve for your enjoyment.

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blah, blah, blah,

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Come and enjoy the new Keybox today!

 

Are you Mr. Keybox?  

 

Good!  Then maybe you could explain why after you closed you left your website running as if nothing had changed, fooling many people.  Why didn't you put a notice that you were closed, and maybe some explanation?  Don't you have consideration for other people?

 

You think you can be trusted by your customers?

[Guest Puzzled]

After verifying our nric, keybox would enter our name, nric number, address and DOB into their computer? For what purposes?

Do you have a robust system and control in place to safeguard our data? If no, you better think twice.

My 2 cents.

[Guest Badexperience]

Fuck the fit tanned spec guy. The guy in underwear play with you you want I play you dont want. There was a fit tanned spec guy in maze walking around. Then a guy in underwear followed him to the upper floor and play with him. I touch him he say can you go away and push me away. I just dont care and cum on his leg.

[navyblue]

Fuck the fit tanned spec guy. The guy in underwear play with you you want I play you dont want. There was a fit tanned spec guy in maze walking around. Then a guy in underwear followed him to the upper floor and play with him. I touch him he say can you go away and push me away. I just dont care and cum on his leg.

U are one of those who give other patrons bad experience. Everyone has a choice on who to play with. Pls do some self reflection and stop complaining here.

[navyblue]

On the IC record matter. I think KB should consider deeply on this matter again.

1. By asking anyone to record their IC in this case will most probably upset patrons. I cant imagine what each staff had to go through explaining so many clients from the day they open. Why let the staff go through this all the time? No good for staffs, not good for patrons. Ugly scene.

2. Management should start thinking: Maybe they can request to show IC for verification at the initial registration process to get the membership card done. They can just keep the record of the birth year for record. Theme nights go by age not by IC number. Makes sense?

2. Even lucky draw coupon has modified from filling in full IC number to last four digits. IC should not be given to any establishment easily.

3. KB had last closed down without any notice showed how irresponsible they were. They were not as responsible and professional as they said. How can they redeem themselves by asking for IC and promised they will keep they safe?

Yes, the business can run however they like, BUT business should consider the needs of most of the clients if they want their business to florish. It's all about giving the best service. In the best of the client. A successful establishment listens to the needs of the customers. Hope they would make the change soon. Make it a win-win situation.

I really hope Keybox will see this.

[bigdanbeam]

Fuck the fit tanned spec guy. The guy in underwear play with you you want I play you dont want. There was a fit tanned spec guy in maze walking around. Then a guy in underwear followed him to the upper floor and play with him. I touch him he say can you go away and push me away. I just dont care and cum on his leg.

So he freaked out and ask why you cum on his leg, then wiped the cum off his legs on you?

After which you complained about bad sauna ettiquete in another thread?