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With the raid at cruise last night, the crowd is bound to move here today.

Some how got a feeling that they might raid KB very soon cos they share the same kind of crowds.. ya lor we dun do anythings indecent lor. Go there shower and watch movies. Finger crossed.

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isn't it safer to go CC now that they have already checked them instead of keybox? Also, i think it shouln't be call raid from the description of events...more like checking the licensee for regulatory orders. Its a routine check and not raid, so

no real cause for alarm. Even if they turn up at keybox, i don't think there is any cause to panic, probably just inconvenience and ruined fun.

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KB is always the "old folk's home" or "refugee's camp", because of its long operating hours. It is like also a gambling den(mahjong) and a hotspot for theft.

At the old KB location, me and lot of my friends all lost our $$$ in our wallet while we stayed over the night. (True Fact)

KB has to do a lot more to work on its crowd. Was there over the weekend and the crowd was weak both in terms of quality and quantity. There's a very high % of pioneer generation leh. Left without doing anything. Sianz...

Is it becos a lot of their old members were pissed at them for not bothering to notify about their closure on their website?

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KB has to do a lot more to work on its crowd. Was there over the weekend and the crowd was weak both in terms of quality and quantity. There's a very high % of pioneer generation leh. Left without doing anything. Sianz...

Is it becos a lot of their old members were pissed at them for not bothering to notify about their closure on their website?

 

Not sure if they can do anything.

 

It's the older guys who can afford to pay anyway.

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KB has to do a lot more to work on its crowd. Was there over the weekend and the crowd was weak both in terms of quality and quantity...

But KB has never been famous for its weekend crowd. Last time its better crowds in terms of quantity and quality could be found on Mon and Tue.

Maybe after the new KB has its fixed theme for each evening started going on, then it will be easier for you to gauge which day is more suitable for you to go. :)

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1st time here after its relocation. exchanged my old membership card for a new one and they accepted my old entry pass. it's newly renovated so the facilities looks much cleaner than cruiseclub's. has 15 small rooms, adequate. one seven's pool is kept. a small gym is beside the pool. entry fee is comparatively lower than cruise's based on per-entry fee also, though cruise offers a more competitively priced multi-entry pass with 3-mth validity periodically. crowd is friendlier here. am here on a monday's afternoon, so the crowd isn't big. will visit during a weekend to see how big the weekend crowd is. areas to improve:

1) should offer multi-entry or monthly pass like cruise did

2) free wifi within premises (since mobile reception is low)

3) some dim lighting along staircase to the 2nd storey

 

keep up the good work. I think it will prove to be a strong competition to cruise in no time. 

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And look like that old cross-dresser also has moved from shogun to keybox now, wearing bra and occupying one room, covering face with towel and sleeping... very horrible sight... plus other customer cannot have fun because this guy is unnecessarily holding up one room...and yes, I also saw those old guys sleeping on sofa all time.. maybe keybox can put their photo on their website as brand ambassador.. ha ha hah...one more oldies club has opened up now and can take Hercules' place!

 

Hahaha.... you also saw that "crossdresser"? But i dun really consider him a drag queen, he is just a old balding uncle with specs who like to wear red bra and panties.

He likes to sleep in the room and left his door opened (maybe to lure those weirdo who like to **** crossdresser in). He(She) even entertains patron who want to watch her walking catwalk in the old Keybox where he will change to diffferent bras and panties for them to see. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

 

Totally hilarious, think he is a bit psycho one....I once even peeped into his bag where it was full of different bras and panties of all colours.

But he only goes there in the wee hours, maybe it will be a better hours for him to "manifest".

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Hahaha.... you also saw that "crossdresser"? But i dun really consider him a drag queen, he is just a old balding uncle with specs who like to wear red bra and panties.

He likes to sleep in the room and left his door opened (maybe to lure those weirdo who like to **** crossdresser in). He(She) even entertains patron who want to watch her walking catwalk in the old Keybox where he will change to diffferent bras and panties for them to see. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

Totally hilarious, think he is a bit psycho one....I once even peeped into his bag where it was full of different bras and panties of all colours.

But he only goes there in the wee hours, maybe it will be a better hours for him to "manifest".

This auntie is sure horrible! Peeped into other's bag still dare to spill the contents online. So 八婆! Careful karma causes you to lose money on the mahjong table.

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1st time here after its relocation. exchanged my old membership card for a new one and they accepted my old entry pass. it's newly renovated so the facilities looks much cleaner than cruiseclub's. has 15 small rooms, adequate. one seven's pool is kept. a small gym is beside the pool. entry fee is comparatively lower than cruise's based on per-entry fee also, though cruise offers a more competitively priced multi-entry pass with 3-mth validity periodically. crowd is friendlier here. am here on a monday's afternoon, so the crowd isn't big. will visit during a weekend to see how big the weekend crowd is. areas to improve:

1) should offer multi-entry or monthly pass like cruise did

2) free wifi within premises (since mobile reception is low)

3) some dim lighting along staircase to the 2nd storey

keep up the good work. I think it will prove to be a strong competition to cruise in no time.

Y do u need wifi at the sauna?

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We have homophobic from straights, now we have also "cross dresser" hater? hmmm....I do not think this is the correct way to treat cross dresser like this.

Pls ignore that Hydronaut. He dislikes KB for the bad experiences that he had, yet he keeps coming back to this thread. He should just stick to Cruise and its thread.

I mean, nobody asks him to be in KB during the wee hours and stay there overnight right? Choosing to do this will mean that he has to take any risk involved.

Simply cant stand anyone who is so full of himself and disregard the feelings of others just because he has a decent bod.

:(

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Pls ignore that Hydronaut. He dislikes KB for the bad experiences that he had, yet he keeps coming back to this thread. He should just stick to Cruise and its thread.

I mean, nobody asks him to be in KB during the wee hours and stay there overnight right? Choosing to do this will mean that he has to take any risk involved.

Simply cant stand anyone who is so full of himself and disregard the feelings of others just because he has a decent bod.

:(

 

Right.  It does not cost anything to show respect, especially for older people who have some weirdness. A cross dresser like that does not hurt anybody but should be accepted as part of the sauna experience.

To have a nice body (and nice personality) is a very fragile gift that must be preserved with good karma.  Bodies can lose their 'nice' for many reasons, not only age, and not so much from age.

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Actually I have chatted with the so called cross dresser before. He is very friendly and educated it's just his fetish that's all.. And he isn't sissy at all. At least he doesn't go around harassing others or prey on others forecefully. Just leave him alone if you find him unsightly to you .. Otherwise he's harmless. Cheers!

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Right.  It does not cost anything to show respect, especially for older people who have some weirdness. A cross dresser like that does not hurt anybody but should be accepted as part of the sauna experience.

To have a nice body (and nice personality) is a very fragile gift that must be preserved with good karma.  Bodies can lose their 'nice' for many reasons, not only age, and not so much from age.

 

If you do anything within your closed doors and wouldn't horrified people and causing a ridicule. It is okay.

You can host theme parties like this at the comfort of all who shared the same interest and fetishes.

But to goes around openly to do something like this. It is not normal.

 

If you think it is normal, try wearing that and walk on the streets. I think there are cases like that before, all are behind bars now.

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Pls ignore that Hydronaut. He dislikes KB for the bad experiences that he had, yet he keeps coming back to this thread. He should just stick to Cruise and its thread.

 

 

To say this, it really mean a big deal about your intellects.

You mean to say a forum thread is only solely to comments on the good aspects of the establishment or subject? (so might as well open up a thread called "KeyBox Supporter's Only Thread")

 

I think a thread is to receive all good and bad comments.  ;) 

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This uneducated auntie still think she is right. auntie, you know what is respect for diversity and acceptance of individual's quirks? If you have a problem with cross dressing in a sauna, maybe you should just stay at home to watch tv?

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Straight homophobes feel that homosexuality is wrong and not normal and should at best be tolerated when its kept behind closed doors. They say openly gay people can only blame themselves for ridicule and should be put behind bars.

It is sad when prejudice is apparent in even the group amongst whom prejudice should be best understood.

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Where else can he exhibit such fetish? Public?

On the streets? He wouldn't have to go to saunas to do so if he could do that openly on the streets and catwalk .

Anyway he is harmless not as if he forcefully preys on hunks or twinks. Live and let live .

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Coming from this auntie who is arguably one of the most sissy guys of the community is a profound irony worthy of academic and psychotic analyses. Can someone please teach this auntie to mind her own business? Afterall, no one asked her to stay home to prevent her offending people with her 八婆 antics, what right does she has to ask someone with a harmless cross dressing fetish to stay home? If someone likes cross dressing in gay saunas, so be it! More power to him! He is not infringing on anyone's rights, so why are you stepping on his? Why do you worry about him being "put behind bars"? He is not wearing his bras and panties out in the daylight. Why don't you instead, worry about your gossipy mouth for inviting more trouble for yourself, auntie?

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If you do anything within your closed doors and wouldn't horrified people and causing a ridicule. It is okay.

You can host theme parties like this at the comfort of all who shared the same interest and fetishes.

But to goes around openly to do something like this. It is not normal.

If you think it is normal, try wearing that and walk on the streets. I think there are cases like that before, all are behind bars now.

The fact that he brought many panties n bras to change for people to see means that there are patrons who embrace the fetish of seeing a guy in those lingeries. You find it psycho doesn't mean others can't enjoy it.

Moreover, if that guy is really psycho, he would be parading in public, not a sauna. He knows that KB is a place for gays and fetishes, so he parades there. And he even chooses to do it in the wee hrs, maybe to avoid the young and less mature crowd. This shows that his mind is clear and he is using it to think.

How would you feel if I say that guys who display headless torso on their display pics are vain and sexually-deprived psychos too?

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Actually I have chatted with the so called cross dresser before. He is very friendly and educated it's just his fetish that's all.. And he isn't sissy at all. At least he doesn't go around harassing others or prey on others forecefully. Just leave him alone if you find him unsightly to you .. Otherwise he's harmless. Cheers!

Agree 100% I have no problem if he is cross dresser. I sure many straight people will find us "gay" as weird! But one request please if you know him..please ask him not to hold up room especially when crowded and rooms are busy! If he want to sleep, go sleep in tv room, with bra, panty whatever! Also, even if you resting in room, have courtesy to vacate if somebody need it! Covering face and pretending like sleeping and occupying room when others badly need does not look "friendly and educated"!

 

Actually I have seen some people who rest in room; which fine, but they politely leave when two people come there. In fact I see one very nice hot guy (I think Indian/Mixed/Middle-Eastern) who will also sometime rest in room but moment someone request or even comes there, he actually cleans room and leaves with a smile.. that is good manners and "friendly and educated"!  Next time I need room and this cross-dresser sleeping, I will go in and ask him to leave. In fact, I think Keybox must have policy that people cannot simply block rooms like that for long time...

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Guests guest and more guests.... I guess I can sign in as guest here and writes hundreds of comments in defense of myself also. But not so Bo-Liao ..... ;) ;) ;)

I am no guest.

Basically I feel that all should practice tolerance in saunas as long as their action do not cause harm to others. You don't have to accept, but you can choose to tolerate, unless you have ways to suggest for improvement.

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I think sometimes it really depends on our luck. May be that particular Monday everyone was tired because of weekend clubbing / late night movie / sex.

I went on Thursday, at about 5pm. Within 3 minutes, I saw a good looking guy with hot bod came out from the shower. We were mutually attracted to each other and went into the maze together. There were many rooms vacant. We went into a room swiftly ..... Bingo ! My sixth sense was right ! He is a bottom. A very strong bottom. I fucked him so hard and long. He didn't beg for mercy and he actually enjoyed it.

When I was leaving at about 6pm, there were a few cute twinks, a handsome and shy Thai boy, a gym fit tatooed Ah Beng....

Too bad. My sperm bank was totally emptied.

 

lucky you :)

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To the guest who ask the cross dresser to leave the room .. Well you can always tell him politely ..

I don't really know him.. Just chatted with him that's all about his fetishes.. And I met him not in kb but in shogun when he slept in the open TV room.. And not in the rooms.. Other than than I don't believe he is the only guy who occupied one single room to himself in the wee hours .. Especially on weekends there are some who just sleep alone in the room and lock the door too.

Just to clarify and not defending him.

So you can also ask those who occupy one single room alone to vacate too other than him.. But whether they want to its up to them as they are paying patrons too unless kb imposes strict rules!

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To the guest who ask the cross dresser to leave the room .. Well you can always tell him politely ..

I don't really know him.. Just chatted with him that's all about his fetishes.. And I met him not in kb but in shogun when he slept in the open TV room.. And not in the rooms.. Other than than I don't believe he is the only guy who occupied one single room to himself in the wee hours .. Especially on weekends there are some who just sleep alone in the room and lock the door too.

Just to clarify and not defending him.

So you can also ask those who occupy one single room alone to vacate too other than him.. But whether they want to its up to them as they are paying patrons too unless kb imposes strict rules!

Yes, definitely, I see him occupying room when I need for fun when on other room free, I definitely ask him politely to leave, by knocking door etc.. If he still continue sleeping, I will just go remove his face cover and ask him to get out.. Same thing for others also who simply keep holding room whether it is oldie, sissie, hunky anything. I go to sauna and pay money to have fun in a room there (many people actually come because they don't have private place for fun, so sauna room is option),  not just watch cross dresser show or some oldie or hunky display!  Atleast some hottie display is some pleasure to watch (some recovery of money you pay), but some horrible guy holding room make you angry and frustrated!

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How is the crowd on Sunday and what time will be there younger crowd

I went on Sunday 8/3 after 7pm. Was initially worried that there would be very few cruisers left by that time, that most would have hooked up and left by then (next day is a working day mah), but was pleasantly surprised to find that it was actually quite crowded. My impression of the crowd – mostly average guys in their 20s to 40s, ethnic representation reflects Singapore's demographics (meaning mostly Chinese, with just a sprinkling of Malays/Indians/Others). By "average" I mean guys whose BMIs are probably in the healthy range – neither very skinny nor very flabby – but also not extremely muscular or toned; almost no one looked like a bodybuilder or fitness model. I didn't see any guys that seemed very young, but also didn't see any that seemed 'old'. In other words, the crowd seemed very similar to the original KB, and I think it's a noticeable contrast to, for example TMC which when I visited before was almost exclusively guys in their 50s and older or chubs.

As someone else has already noted, most of the guys I saw that night would probably remind you of your co-workers, or the people you see on the bus everyday. But if this sounds like 'weak praise' I can assure you it's not – it's actually one of the reasons I always preferred KB to all the others, especially Cruise. If you're interested only in guys that look like bodybuilders or fitness models, then Cruise is your best bet, but if you don't look like a bodybuilder or fitness model yourself, then you may find yourself walking the maze all night and end up leaving with blue balls. If you're a regular guy looking for another regular guy for fun, I've always found the crowd at KB more straightforward and receptive. It's always been quicker and easier for me to hook up with someone I find hot at KB, including during my latest visit.

I thought it's worth putting my perspective out there in view of all the comments about the "quantity and quality" of guys at KB. In the end of course it depends on each person's taste and what he considers to be "quality", but it's worth being specific.

Lastly a personal observation about the availability of "younger" guys in saunas. I assume "young" means 18 to early 20s. In all of the saunas in Sg I've visited, no matter what day/time and whether there is free entry for the younger crowd or not, this age group is generally in the minority, and I think there are some logical reasons for this, among others: guys in this age group are likely to be in institutions where they can (more easily) find romantic/sexual partners among their peers (namely tertiary ed, full-time NS, at gyms, etc), unlike the working years later in life when they're unlikely to be surrounded by so many males of the same age; they're also at the stage of their life when they're more likely to still believe in the possibility of finding monogamous LTRs such that they may not consider engaging in casual sex at saunas. All this to say that anyone who is only interested in guys of this age group may have to take a more realistic view of how easy it will be to find one in a sauna. Of course they're there, but they're usually outnumbered by older guys, and often they're more interested in each other than the older ones.

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Yes I do agree with the guest about being realistic .. If you know you are of what material you have to be realistic and target those that are within your range. Not being offensive but of course sometimes there are exceptional cases too.

Anyway to me kb is still better than cc as I'm not looking for overly muscular or model faced guys.. Guys that are reasonably groomed and cleaned and decently healthy and exercise just suffice for me. Never leave empty handed for me always. Thanks kb:)

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I went on Sunday 8/3 after 7pm. Was initially worried that there would be very few cruisers left by that time, that most would have hooked up and left by then (next day is a working day mah), but was pleasantly surprised to find that it was actually quite crowded. My impression of the crowd – mostly average guys in their 20s to 40s, ethnic representation reflects Singapore's demographics (meaning mostly Chinese, with just a sprinkling of Malays/Indians/Others). By "average" I mean guys whose BMIs are probably in the healthy range – neither very skinny nor very flabby – but also not extremely muscular or toned; almost no one looked like a bodybuilder or fitness model. I didn't see any guys that seemed very young, but also didn't see any that seemed 'old'. In other words, the crowd seemed very similar to the original KB, and I think it's a noticeable contrast to, for example TMC which when I visited before was almost exclusively guys in their 50s and older or chubs.

As someone else has already noted, most of the guys I saw that night would probably remind you of your co-workers, or the people you see on the bus everyday. But if this sounds like 'weak praise' I can assure you it's not – it's actually one of the reasons I always preferred KB to all the others, especially Cruise. If you're interested only in guys that look like bodybuilders or fitness models, then Cruise is your best bet, but if you don't look like a bodybuilder or fitness model yourself, then you may find yourself walking the maze all night and end up leaving with blue balls. If you're a regular guy looking for another regular guy for fun, I've always found the crowd at KB more straightforward and receptive. It's always been quicker and easier for me to hook up with someone I find hot at KB, including during my latest visit.

I thought it's worth putting my perspective out there in view of all the comments about the "quantity and quality" of guys at KB. In the end of course it depends on each person's taste and what he considers to be "quality", but it's worth being specific.

Lastly a personal observation about the availability of "younger" guys in saunas. I assume "young" means 18 to early 20s. In all of the saunas in Sg I've visited, no matter what day/time and whether there is free entry for the younger crowd or not, this age group is generally in the minority, and I think there are some logical reasons for this, among others: guys in this age group are likely to be in institutions where they can (more easily) find romantic/sexual partners among their peers (namely tertiary ed, full-time NS, at gyms, etc), unlike the working years later in life when they're unlikely to be surrounded by so many males of the same age; they're also at the stage of their life when they're more likely to still believe in the possibility of finding monogamous LTRs such that they may not consider engaging in casual sex at saunas. All this to say that anyone who is only interested in guys of this age group may have to take a more realistic view of how easy it will be to find one in a sauna. Of course they're there, but they're usually outnumbered by older guys, and often they're more interested in each other than the older ones.

Hmm...good assessment.  But also hard to find are old but muscular guys.  Most guys above 40 neglected their body.

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Lastly a personal observation about the availability of "younger" guys in saunas. I assume "young" means 18 to early 20s. In all of the saunas in Sg I've visited, no matter what day/time and whether there is free entry for the younger crowd or not, this age group is generally in the minority, and I think there are some logical reasons for this, among others: guys in this age group are likely to be in institutions where they can (more easily) find romantic/sexual partners among their peers (namely tertiary ed, full-time NS, at gyms, etc), unlike the working years later in life when they're unlikely to be surrounded by so many males of the same age; they're also at the stage of their life when they're more likely to still believe in the possibility of finding monogamous LTRs such that they may not consider engaging in casual sex at saunas. All this to say that anyone who is only interested in guys of this age group may have to take a more realistic view of how easy it will be to find one in a sauna. Of course they're there, but they're usually outnumbered by older guys, and often they're more interested in each other than the older ones.

I am 45 and I went to KB last Sunday early noon. When I entered the maze, within 3 minutes I saw this cute guy and I approached him.

He told me he is very excited, as I asked him why his hands are so cold. So I gave him a hug.

It was fairly crowded and all the rooms were taken. When we finally got one room, we entered and did everything that you can imagine. He is a boyish bottom and I kept kissing him when I was fucking him. He enjoyed it very much and i assumed he must be in his late 20s.

When we had reached our climax, we cleaned up and grabbed our towels. When asked about his age, he told me he is 22.

I almost fainted. He asked me back what my age is. I asked him to guess. He said I should be in my early 30s. When I told him the answer honestly, he was shocked. Probably it was his first time having sex with a man same age as his dad.

I used to like twinks a lot. Nowadays, I don't go for twinks. I think the main reason is I don't make mature gays ugly in the eyes of the younger gays, as if we are old, desperate and very hard up for fresh juice.

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I'm different from you . It's usually the young ones that come after me within minutes.. But no matter what I will not hook up with them. I prefer guys who are 30 and above which appeals to me.

Like you I'm in my 40s. But am fit and in shape too. The young ones or even older ones usually think I'm in my 30s too. I take it as a compliment .

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I'm different from you . It's usually the young ones that come after me within minutes.. But no matter what I will not hook up with them. I prefer guys who are 30 and above which appeals to me.

Like you I'm in my 40s. But am fit and in shape too. The young ones or even older ones usually think I'm in my 30s too. I take it as a compliment .

 

To be looked at with astonishment about our real age after thinking that we are ten or more years younger,

makes all the effort to stay healthy and in good shape worth it.  A super-compliment!

And this comes on top of the obvious benefits of being healthy and in good shape. :)

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