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20 hours ago, rendezvous said:
Hi guys. I'd like to share my story. I used to frequent sauna in my mid 20s and am in my mid 30s now. I have stopped going to sauna for 2 years. 
 
I slowly got to learn that sauna is a place with really really bad qi (the Chinese call it 磁场/ people in the west call it "vibration"). I used to have a good career with good pay but things started to go south for some reason. I ended up not doing well and am now making ends meet. 
 
It wasn't until I learn that years of going to sauna and having fun with strangers have slowly reduced my store of good luck (or good karma) that I realized I wasted so many years of my life. When good luck runs out, bad things will kick in. 
 
The Chinese believe in the saying that 一衰衰三年, literally: once swei (bad luck) will swei for three years - it means bad luck can prolong for a long while and it's not a one-off thing. Even if we are doing well now, somehow bad things will happen - like strains in relationship, problem with superior etc. And we can pass off the bad chi after going to sauna to our family/friends too - energy is contagious. And when you make out with a guy in sauna who's going through bad luck himself, his bad luck/energy will be transferred to you as well. If you are going through good luck, you won't be affected much, but your good luck will be reduced. Once good luck ends, bad things really will kick in. 
 
Back to my story. I first went there when I was 25. It was out of curiosity. I never allowed anyone to touch me, as a part of me was telling myself that, well, I'm just curious. I remembered someone touched me in a steam room, but I pushed his hand right away. He then responded, "Oh, you are a newbie." I was. But then the more often I went, the more I felt lustful. I went to almost all saunas out there. From initially not allowing strangers to touch me, I slowly had the guts to touch them. 
 
As time went on, each sauna visit made me somehow a little bolder. It's called reinforcement in psychology. But unknowingly, it was like a drug. I got addicted. In hindsight, I realised my life slowly went downhill in terms of career success and financial achievement. Things spiraled as well. I went to sleazy massage places. And I had B2B massage as well. This just increased my lust and addiction.
 
Can you see how scary it was? The negative spiral can go on and on and eventually ruin your life. Worse still, take away your life. You never know what kind of viruses you could get. I know people say, "Well, play safe, and that's fine." But the vibration/bad energy/swei energy will stick with you for a long while, and there's no way to shield yourself from it even though you play safe. Energy can be transferred, remember? It's physics. 
 
To anyone out there, particularly young people in 20s, please please please learn from my mistake. Don't let the best 10 years of your life be wasted and ruined in saunas. This is the most important 10 years of your life, and it can set the pace for your life for the next 30 years. Make it the best ones. Remember, you have a family who love you. 
 
PS: if anyone of you can read Mandarin, here's the story of how a guy's family and life went seriously messy after years of fooling around doing may crazy things to fulfill his desire : 
 

All things have 2 side just like coin.

You get something and you lose something too.

But there are not a things we can say 100% true or false, all is the standard from ourself.

You facing this problem sometimes have many reason, maybe your "命格” not suit for this kind of vibration.

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On 12/21/2024 at 12:11 PM, rendezvous said:
Hi guys. I'd like to share my story. I used to frequent sauna in my mid 20s and am in my mid 30s now. I have stopped going to sauna for 2 years. 
 
I slowly got to learn that sauna is a place with really really bad qi (the Chinese call it 磁场/ people in the west call it "vibration"). I used to have a good career with good pay but things started to go south for some reason. I ended up not doing well and am now making ends meet. 
 
It wasn't until I learn that years of going to sauna and having fun with strangers have slowly reduced my store of good luck (or good karma) that I realized I wasted so many years of my life. When good luck runs out, bad things will kick in. 
 
The Chinese believe in the saying that 一衰衰三年, literally: once swei (bad luck) will swei for three years - it means bad luck can prolong for a long while and it's not a one-off thing. Even if we are doing well now, somehow bad things will happen - like strains in relationship, problem with superior etc. And we can pass off the bad chi after going to sauna to our family/friends too - energy is contagious. And when you make out with a guy in sauna who's going through bad luck himself, his bad luck/energy will be transferred to you as well. If you are going through good luck, you won't be affected much, but your good luck will be reduced. Once good luck ends, bad things really will kick in. 
 
Back to my story. I first went there when I was 25. It was out of curiosity. I never allowed anyone to touch me, as a part of me was telling myself that, well, I'm just curious. I remembered someone touched me in a steam room, but I pushed his hand right away. He then responded, "Oh, you are a newbie." I was. But then the more often I went, the more I felt lustful. I went to almost all saunas out there. From initially not allowing strangers to touch me, I slowly had the guts to touch them. 
 
As time went on, each sauna visit made me somehow a little bolder. It's called reinforcement in psychology. But unknowingly, it was like a drug. I got addicted. In hindsight, I realised my life slowly went downhill in terms of career success and financial achievement. Things spiraled as well. I went to sleazy massage places. And I had B2B massage as well. This just increased my lust and addiction.
 
Can you see how scary it was? The negative spiral can go on and on and eventually ruin your life. Worse still, take away your life. You never know what kind of viruses you could get. I know people say, "Well, play safe, and that's fine." But the vibration/bad energy/swei energy will stick with you for a long while, and there's no way to shield yourself from it even though you play safe. Energy can be transferred, remember? It's physics. 
 
To anyone out there, particularly young people in 20s, please please please learn from my mistake. Don't let the best 10 years of your life be wasted and ruined in saunas. This is the most important 10 years of your life, and it can set the pace for your life for the next 30 years. Make it the best ones. Remember, you have a family who love you. 
 
PS: if anyone of you can read Mandarin, here's the story of how a guy's family and life went seriously messy after years of fooling around doing may crazy things to fulfill his desire : 
 

 Sounds like some anti-gay agenda bot here trying to dissuade people from going to saunas lol. Any successful people to prove them wrong? Or maybe he is right that these guys are losers, those got money got honey won't be at saunas too. 🙃

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"Touch has a memory," a phrase from John Keats's letter to Fanny Brawne, conveys the profound emotional weight that physical contact carries in memory and imagination. Keats wrote these words while reflecting on the intense longing and desire he felt for Fanny, even in her absence. For Keats, physical touch transcends the momentary, imprinting itself on the mind and heart, much like the way memories linger and resurface with emotional force.

 

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On 12/21/2024 at 12:11 PM, rendezvous said:
Hi guys. I'd like to share my story. I used to frequent sauna in my mid 20s and am in my mid 30s now. I have stopped going to sauna for 2 years. 
 
I slowly got to learn that sauna is a place with really really bad qi (the Chinese call it 磁场/ people in the west call it "vibration"). I used to have a good career with good pay but things started to go south for some reason. I ended up not doing well and am now making ends meet. 
 
It wasn't until I learn that years of going to sauna and having fun with strangers have slowly reduced my store of good luck (or good karma) that I realized I wasted so many years of my life. When good luck runs out, bad things will kick in. 
 
The Chinese believe in the saying that 一衰衰三年, literally: once swei (bad luck) will swei for three years - it means bad luck can prolong for a long while and it's not a one-off thing. Even if we are doing well now, somehow bad things will happen - like strains in relationship, problem with superior etc. And we can pass off the bad chi after going to sauna to our family/friends too - energy is contagious. And when you make out with a guy in sauna who's going through bad luck himself, his bad luck/energy will be transferred to you as well. If you are going through good luck, you won't be affected much, but your good luck will be reduced. Once good luck ends, bad things really will kick in. 
 
Back to my story. I first went there when I was 25. It was out of curiosity. I never allowed anyone to touch me, as a part of me was telling myself that, well, I'm just curious. I remembered someone touched me in a steam room, but I pushed his hand right away. He then responded, "Oh, you are a newbie." I was. But then the more often I went, the more I felt lustful. I went to almost all saunas out there. From initially not allowing strangers to touch me, I slowly had the guts to touch them. 
 
As time went on, each sauna visit made me somehow a little bolder. It's called reinforcement in psychology. But unknowingly, it was like a drug. I got addicted. In hindsight, I realised my life slowly went downhill in terms of career success and financial achievement. Things spiraled as well. I went to sleazy massage places. And I had B2B massage as well. This just increased my lust and addiction.
 
Can you see how scary it was? The negative spiral can go on and on and eventually ruin your life. Worse still, take away your life. You never know what kind of viruses you could get. I know people say, "Well, play safe, and that's fine." But the vibration/bad energy/swei energy will stick with you for a long while, and there's no way to shield yourself from it even though you play safe. Energy can be transferred, remember? It's physics. 
 
To anyone out there, particularly young people in 20s, please please please learn from my mistake. Don't let the best 10 years of your life be wasted and ruined in saunas. This is the most important 10 years of your life, and it can set the pace for your life for the next 30 years. Make it the best ones. Remember, you have a family who love you. 
 
PS: if anyone of you can read Mandarin, here's the story of how a guy's family and life went seriously messy after years of fooling around doing may crazy things to fulfill his desire : 
 

Thank you for sharing, I quite agree with you. Also indulged way too much in my 20s, and I wish I'd spent less time on meaningless and casual encounters. Although I still indulge in these things now, at least I'm not addicted or reckless like last time. Know your priorities and what matters, then indulge responsibly 

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Hi. Happy new year everyone. 

 

Just wanna share my recent visit to Purnama Men Spa or Serai Spa

 

Location: Also known as hidden spa, it is located inside Farenheit 88. Ground floor. Just search for Curiosity shop. If you are standing in front of Curiosity there is a door (a bit hidden) at the left side of Curiosity (just walk alongside the left wall of Curiosity then you can see the door). Once you enter the door, you can see they are few shops inside. Just walk straight pass few lots you can see Purnama on your left. If you kind of lost just text them, they will send someone to wait you at the door. It was really hidden even the information counter also didnt know the exact location. I was confident enough to ask the information counter which is just in front of curiosity but unfortunately the customer service said I need to go down 2 floors and go outside. But once I'm outside, the guard send me back when I ask where is Purnama. Then at that time I just text them and say I'm lost then one big muscular guy came in front of curiosity to fetch me.

 

Facility: Shop lot is not that big. There is like main counter and at the back is massage rooms and shower room. I get inside. They show me my room and handed me towel and give option whether I wanna shower 1st. I saw one shower room. Didn’t see any toilet and didn’t ask of it. I proceed with shower as I was a bit sweaty after walking around up and down looking for the spa. After shower I get back into my massage room. I book session at 3pm on Saturday. Didn’t see anyone else that time.

 

Masseuse: I booked Johnny as reviews says he had very good skill. And yes absolutely. His massage skill is top notch. You won’t regret. He is medium built Borneo guy. Beefy I would say. His hand is smooth. The therapist is fully cloth during the massage.

 

Hanky Panky: Yes. Haha. He did stimulate me with butt massage. Teasing my hole. But he did complete the massage 1st then I got a bit aroused towards the end with more teasing from him then I start grab his arm. He then start to allow me to touch him and brought down his pants. He was semi hard. It was not very long session as I only had few minutes left. He keep on jerking me with the massage oil then I cum. I can’t stand his smooth hand lol. After that I went for shower and before I’m about to leave the room he came in and just sit on the edge of the bed. He didn’t say anything but I knew he wait for something. I gave RM50 for the tip then he said he charge RM100 for extra. I add another 50. So total burn is 260 (160 for 90mins massage and 100 for the tips)

 

Would I repeat? Yes for the massage. 😄

 

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Massage Rm50 and Rm100 discount for Malaysian living in Malaysia only. Valid till 12th January (Saturday) only. 

 

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On 1/1/2025 at 1:48 AM, amir_k said:

Hi. Happy new year everyone. 

 

Just wanna share my recent visit to Purnama Men Spa or Serai Spa

 

Location: Also known as hidden spa, it is located inside Farenheit 88. Ground floor. Just search for Curiosity shop. If you are standing in front of Curiosity there is a door (a bit hidden) at the left side of Curiosity (just walk alongside the left wall of Curiosity then you can see the door). Once you enter the door, you can see they are few shops inside. Just walk straight pass few lots you can see Purnama on your left. If you kind of lost just text them, they will send someone to wait you at the door. It was really hidden even the information counter also didnt know the exact location. I was confident enough to ask the information counter which is just in front of curiosity but unfortunately the customer service said I need to go down 2 floors and go outside. But once I'm outside, the guard send me back when I ask where is Purnama. Then at that time I just text them and say I'm lost then one big muscular guy came in front of curiosity to fetch me.

 

Facility: Shop lot is not that big. There is like main counter and at the back is massage rooms and shower room. I get inside. They show me my room and handed me towel and give option whether I wanna shower 1st. I saw one shower room. Didn’t see any toilet and didn’t ask of it. I proceed with shower as I was a bit sweaty after walking around up and down looking for the spa. After shower I get back into my massage room. I book session at 3pm on Saturday. Didn’t see anyone else that time.

 

Masseuse: I booked Johnny as reviews says he had very good skill. And yes absolutely. His massage skill is top notch. You won’t regret. He is medium built Borneo guy. Beefy I would say. His hand is smooth. The therapist is fully cloth during the massage.

 

Hanky Panky: Yes. Haha. He did stimulate me with butt massage. Teasing my hole. But he did complete the massage 1st then I got a bit aroused towards the end with more teasing from him then I start grab his arm. He then start to allow me to touch him and brought down his pants. He was semi hard. It was not very long session as I only had few minutes left. He keep on jerking me with the massage oil then I cum. I can’t stand his smooth hand lol. After that I went for shower and before I’m about to leave the room he came in and just sit on the edge of the bed. He didn’t say anything but I knew he wait for something. I gave RM50 for the tip then he said he charge RM100 for extra. I add another 50. So total burn is 260 (160 for 90mins massage and 100 for the tips)

 

Would I repeat? Yes for the massage. 😄

 

Is there no clarity about the cost of extras prior to the act? What would happen if you didn’t “tip” him or insist on the intiial 50 alone?

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On 1/3/2025 at 10:52 AM, Baredom said:

Is there no clarity about the cost of extras prior to the act? What would happen if you didn’t “tip” him or insist on the intiial 50 alone?

Yea. I did not expect the HE prior to massage (that was my 1st time in Purnama) and didnt ask regarding that. And got no idea that he set the tips for extra. So it would be wise to ask if you can sense that the masseur going for HE (But I prefer masseur to negotiate once they decide to opt for HE)

 

I'm not sure what would happen but he was like very insist on 100 and I just wanna go and doesn't wanna make scene. Plus he was nice and have good manner. So I don't mind to proceed and go.

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21 hours ago, amir_k said:

Yea. I did not expect the HE prior to massage (that was my 1st time in Purnama) and didnt ask regarding that. And got no idea that he set the tips for extra. So it would be wise to ask if you can sense that the masseur going for HE (But I prefer masseur to negotiate once they decide to opt for HE)

 

I'm not sure what would happen but he was like very insist on 100 and I just wanna go and doesn't wanna make scene. Plus he was nice and have good manner. So I don't mind to proceed and go.

 

On 1/1/2025 at 1:48 AM, amir_k said:

Hi. Happy new year everyone. 

 

Just wanna share my recent visit to Purnama Men Spa or Serai Spa

 

Location: Also known as hidden spa, it is located inside Farenheit 88. Ground floor. Just search for Curiosity shop. If you are standing in front of Curiosity there is a door (a bit hidden) at the left side of Curiosity (just walk alongside the left wall of Curiosity then you can see the door). Once you enter the door, you can see they are few shops inside. Just walk straight pass few lots you can see Purnama on your left. If you kind of lost just text them, they will send someone to wait you at the door. It was really hidden even the information counter also didnt know the exact location. I was confident enough to ask the information counter which is just in front of curiosity but unfortunately the customer service said I need to go down 2 floors and go outside. But once I'm outside, the guard send me back when I ask where is Purnama. Then at that time I just text them and say I'm lost then one big muscular guy came in front of curiosity to fetch me.

 

Facility: Shop lot is not that big. There is like main counter and at the back is massage rooms and shower room. I get inside. They show me my room and handed me towel and give option whether I wanna shower 1st. I saw one shower room. Didn’t see any toilet and didn’t ask of it. I proceed with shower as I was a bit sweaty after walking around up and down looking for the spa. After shower I get back into my massage room. I book session at 3pm on Saturday. Didn’t see anyone else that time.

 

Masseuse: I booked Johnny as reviews says he had very good skill. And yes absolutely. His massage skill is top notch. You won’t regret. He is medium built Borneo guy. Beefy I would say. His hand is smooth. The therapist is fully cloth during the massage.

 

Hanky Panky: Yes. Haha. He did stimulate me with butt massage. Teasing my hole. But he did complete the massage 1st then I got a bit aroused towards the end with more teasing from him then I start grab his arm. He then start to allow me to touch him and brought down his pants. He was semi hard. It was not very long session as I only had few minutes left. He keep on jerking me with the massage oil then I cum. I can’t stand his smooth hand lol. After that I went for shower and before I’m about to leave the room he came in and just sit on the edge of the bed. He didn’t say anything but I knew he wait for something. I gave RM50 for the tip then he said he charge RM100 for extra. I add another 50. So total burn is 260 (160 for 90mins massage and 100 for the tips)

 

Would I repeat? Yes for the massage. 😄

 

Meaning he took off his pants? Only undies ?

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Good afternoon everyone! I was wondering if any of you have had recent “great” experiences at any HealthLand in KL? I have had a couple good ones (big thick hands, edging and a lot of small touches) at Kota Kemuning few years ago but they have since changed to Ayu Borneo. Would love to know if you know of any in the city and the name of masseurs? Thanks!

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On 7/9/2024 at 3:23 PM, Guest maseje said:

went for borneo recently, forgot which masseur but the massage was super sensual. eventhough was facing down, his rubs and presses was strong but added a swift touch to your butt cracks or balls, was hard throughout, felt precum leaking. when faced up, he put my leg crossed around him as if he's topping me, stroked and choked me softly at same time while sucking my nips. was ecstatic and cum huge after a short while.

Oh which borneo please?

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On 1/5/2025 at 8:08 AM, Baredom said:

Thanks. It’s a little bit difficult to talk and negotiate about price when you’re in the midst of a HE…. No doubt a useful strategy for the masseur 

Most welcome. Yup. Couldn't agree more. And it is indeed useful strategy for the masseur. And from our side as customers just need to be constantly reminded to ask and negotiate for win-win situation 😎 

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5 hours ago, cyr8x said:

Loh gives a good massage at PB blind. Have not experienced hanky panky . Maybe I don't know how to signal

 

8 Jan Wednesday

 

Ok then I went to the sauna.

Majority uncles. Uncles are very hungry and daring. One indian chub was laying naked in the dark room.

 

There's this very fair n cute guy with thick cock between 5pm to 6pm. If u are here, do PM me. 

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On 12/21/2024 at 12:11 PM, rendezvous said:
Hi guys. I'd like to share my story. I used to frequent sauna in my mid 20s and am in my mid 30s now. I have stopped going to sauna for 2 years. 
 
I slowly got to learn that sauna is a place with really really bad qi (the Chinese call it 磁场/ people in the west call it "vibration"). I used to have a good career with good pay but things started to go south for some reason. I ended up not doing well and am now making ends meet. 
 
It wasn't until I learn that years of going to sauna and having fun with strangers have slowly reduced my store of good luck (or good karma) that I realized I wasted so many years of my life. When good luck runs out, bad things will kick in. 
 
The Chinese believe in the saying that 一衰衰三年, literally: once swei (bad luck) will swei for three years - it means bad luck can prolong for a long while and it's not a one-off thing. Even if we are doing well now, somehow bad things will happen - like strains in relationship, problem with superior etc. And we can pass off the bad chi after going to sauna to our family/friends too - energy is contagious. And when you make out with a guy in sauna who's going through bad luck himself, his bad luck/energy will be transferred to you as well. If you are going through good luck, you won't be affected much, but your good luck will be reduced. Once good luck ends, bad things really will kick in. 
 
Back to my story. I first went there when I was 25. It was out of curiosity. I never allowed anyone to touch me, as a part of me was telling myself that, well, I'm just curious. I remembered someone touched me in a steam room, but I pushed his hand right away. He then responded, "Oh, you are a newbie." I was. But then the more often I went, the more I felt lustful. I went to almost all saunas out there. From initially not allowing strangers to touch me, I slowly had the guts to touch them. 
 
As time went on, each sauna visit made me somehow a little bolder. It's called reinforcement in psychology. But unknowingly, it was like a drug. I got addicted. In hindsight, I realised my life slowly went downhill in terms of career success and financial achievement. Things spiraled as well. I went to sleazy massage places. And I had B2B massage as well. This just increased my lust and addiction.
 
Can you see how scary it was? The negative spiral can go on and on and eventually ruin your life. Worse still, take away your life. You never know what kind of viruses you could get. I know people say, "Well, play safe, and that's fine." But the vibration/bad energy/swei energy will stick with you for a long while, and there's no way to shield yourself from it even though you play safe. Energy can be transferred, remember? It's physics. 
 
To anyone out there, particularly young people in 20s, please please please learn from my mistake. Don't let the best 10 years of your life be wasted and ruined in saunas. This is the most important 10 years of your life, and it can set the pace for your life for the next 30 years. Make it the best ones. Remember, you have a family who love you. 
 
PS: if anyone of you can read Mandarin, here's the story of how a guy's family and life went seriously messy after years of fooling around doing may crazy things to fulfill his desire : 
 

 

I sense a negative viewpoint on sexuality.

Seeing sex as something sleazy or let's say the impact on it often comes from religious perspectives.

 

How can you be sure that any bad karma derived from gay sauna visits...

 

Unless, you develop a serious addiction to sex and visiting saunas or other sex places more than healthy with losing the focus on personal leisure and recovery phases from work etc, I don't really see how life can go downhill.

 

Sure there are such things as sex addiction but I don't think visiting a gay sauna on times would create that bad chi (which is also a matter of belief) .  I am aware there are guys out there who visit gay establishments/ saunas on a daily basis. That might be a bit too much.

 

As long as any sexual activity won't turn to an addiction, actually it helps in releasing stress and sends positive hormones.

 

I personally think you can’t blame your sexual activity having caused your downturn, but there in reality might be other causes to it...

 

I think it is a just a way of looking at it and setting the right limits.

 

Another point: Eventually, 20s might be advised not to forget to search for a life bond with a partner instead of just frequenting gay sex parlours of any kind... a healthy relationship may add to positive vibes instead of casual sex in a sauna where you end up alone at home afterwards. (not to judge here).

 

On a last note: You can get infected with viruses also with or through your life partner or even strangers on the street (aka Covid19)...

 

 

 

How does the saying go: Everything is healthy, as long as it is in moderation...

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Want to try said:

Has anyone tried Ian Chow massage, urut baton and prostate massage services? Any reviews on his services? 

I have tried few times. Very good massage (Not those mb sex massage). Must go and try. Arrange in advance only. 

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4 minutes ago, John Mason said:

I have tried few times. Very good massage (Not those mb sex massage). Must go and try. Arrange in advance only. 

Tks... Just found out how much in advance booking required! Do you have any other good ones to recommend? I saw under his website he opined on many... Have you tried Calvin and Jacky? If so, are they good and sensual? Tks. 

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