Orca888 And His 'straight' Boy

[Guest Guest]

What did I do?

I need to report ORCA to MOE. He's definitely a serial predator. I better warn my son about him!

[orca888]

I need to report ORCA to MOE. He's definitely a serial predator. I better warn my son about him!

Very nice - based on a sample size of 1...

Anyway, my guy is 20 - still counted?

[Guest Guest]

eh orca888, if u are 4* yo now, ur ex is 1* years younger than u and u guys were together for 18 years, wouldnt ur ex still be in sec sch when u guys first started?

i also thought sec sch wor, 44 - 13 - 18 = 13?!

haha but anw different guys hv different preferences.

impressed he maintained it for 18 years

[orca888]

No lah, my ex was only 10 years younger (almost 10 years)...hahah

Numbers have been rounded up slightly

Considering that he was the one who "hooked" me...can't imagine me being a whale of a catch? (pun unintended)...hahah

Edited April 25, 2012 by orca888

[Guest Guest]

No lah, my ex was only 10 years younger (almost 10 years)...hahah

Numbers have been rounded up slightly

Considering that he was the one who "hooked" me...can't imagine me being a whale of a catch? (pun unintended)...hahah

rmb reading somewhere u said it was 13. so which is which.

[orca888]

rmb reading somewhere u said it was 13. so which is which.

13 when he was in my swimming class

I didn't pay him any attention as he was too young although he was already a hottie...hahah

I was still in uni then - so I was 22 (just after army)...hence the 10-year age gap or thereabouts

Guess my narration skills still need a lot of work

[Guest IamPineapple]

LOL - no fun right? Makes us slightly paranoid...hahah

Yup, got to watch your knees - mine are already shot...hahah

Diet is maybe the wrong word - I do watch what I eat - less effort to maintain my body

Nope, not that one - it's a gaming forum...hahah

Yes, unker plays a lot of games - so maybe that's why can have so much in common with my boy

There's definitely chemistry else we won't be going out so often right?

Sometimes good things happen when we least expect it...hahah

Actually, I also don't know...that's why I am still not confident enough to tell him...but seriously, my boy is very perceptive and smart

But so far, we continue to be very close, even physically...

Anyway, my boy has a very nice bubble butt - someone told me that most guys with such butts are usually not straight - any truth in that? hahah

Agree Although i'm still e joker @ the crowd haha...

wow... word of wisdom from unker le " Sometimes good things happen when we least expect it.. "

er... i thought those people with "bubble butt" are horny most of the time... no ?

[Guest Guest]

13 when he was in my swimming class

I didn't pay him any attention as he was too young although he was already a hottie...hahah

I was still in uni then - so I was 22 (just after army)...hence the 10-year age gap or thereabouts

Guess my narration skills still need a lot of work

OMG, i need to report ORCA to SSC. I better take my son out of his swimming class.

ORCA, why dun u date someone around your age!!!!!!!!!!

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13 when he was in my swimming class

I didn't pay him any attention as he was too young although he was already a hottie...hahah

I was still in uni then - so I was 22 (just after army)...hence the 10-year age gap or thereabouts

Guess my narration skills still need a lot of work

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unker u did mention ur ex was 13 years younger than u wor

[orca888]

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unker u did mention ur ex was 13 years younger than u wor

LOL - he's actually 10 years my junior - not 13

Anyway, it's all in the past...hahah

[orca888]

OMG, i need to report ORCA to SSC. I better take my son out of his swimming class.

ORCA, why dun u date someone around your age!!!!!!!!!!

If you got a son, WTF are you doing here? hahah

Don't worry - I got no interest in anyone else except my boy :lol:

[orca888]

Had a great gym session with my guy again - he's improving very well plus he's already very strong to begin with

Went to try a new Chinese restaurant - he likes it and he doesn't mind go back...hahah

Of course, he was somewhat distracted by his phone - guess that's how young guys are - constantly checking their FB, chats and recently his mushroom farming game

Will be seeing him again tomorrow morning

[orca888]

Agree Although i'm still e joker @ the crowd haha...

wow... word of wisdom from unker le " Sometimes good things happen when we least expect it.. "

er... i thought those people with "bubble butt" are horny most of the time... no ?

LOL - I tend to be the joker too but I have mellowed down a lot - being an unker sort of put a stop to that

It's true - I wasn't even looking when I met my boy...he like a godsend...it would be perfect if he's not straight..hahah

Anyway, I haven't had much experience in the bubble butt area - I only had a sample size of one...my current boy doesn't count

Horny doesn't mean anything woah - could still be horny for girls - not for me

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unker u did mention ur ex was 13 years younger than u wor

I say, just take everything u read here with a pinch of salt. Unless u really know the person in real life.

[hollister88]

the worst nightmare is to fall for a straight guy, but again they often make the best sad stories in life. To live is to suffer. EMO.

[orca888]

the worst nightmare is to fall for a straight guy, but again they often make the best sad stories in life. To live is to suffer. EMO.

You don't say...hahah

Sometimes we can't control with whom we fall in love with - the chemistry is just so strong...sigh

As much as we want to avoid it, things just happen, especially in my case where I get so many mixed signals

[Guest Hello]

If your boy is what you have described so far, I would have guessed that he already knows that you are gay. He is going out with you because he enjoys your company. He might be gay but does not want to admit to you for some reason (e.g. He might be afraid that entering into a sexual relationship could adversely affect the current situation). Or he is straight but due to your showering of affection for him, he is tempted to turn gay but he has to overcome his mental barrier to change to adopt a gay lifestyle. In any case, I don't see why he would think that u are straight, unless he is absolutely clueless and is not aware that gay men exist in this world.

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Stop gossiping about any individual!

[Guest Guest]

You don't say...hahah

Sometimes we can't control with whom we fall in love with - the chemistry is just so strong...sigh

As much as we want to avoid it, things just happen, especially in my case where I get so many mixed signals

Like, a moth flying into fire..........

[Guest Guest]

If you got a son, WTF are you doing here? hahah

Don't worry - I got no interest in anyone else except my boy :lol:

It's our son, you %^*&^% father!!!

[orca888]

If your boy is what you have described so far, I would have guessed that he already knows that you are gay. He is going out with you because he enjoys your company. He might be gay but does not want to admit to you for some reason (e.g. He might be afraid that entering into a sexual relationship could adversely affect the current situation). Or he is straight but due to your showering of affection for him, he is tempted to turn gay but he has to overcome his mental barrier to change to adopt a gay lifestyle. In any case, I don't see why he would think that u are straight, unless he is absolutely clueless and is not aware that gay men exist in this world.

I think he's probably suspects that I am bisexual at the very least...hahah

I certainly hope that he enjoys my company - else it must have been awkward for him these past 4 months - not to mention our recent holiday together

I am not sure he's gay but he's certainly attracting a lot of female attention...actually so did I when I was younger...hahah

Anyway, there's definitely nothing sexual about our relationship now - just taking care of him as my younger brother and even "son"...hahah

I will leave the final decision up to him - like I said before - I am already very contented with having him as my brother...it's an extra bonus if we do become closer...

Nah, he's very perceptive and sharp - he's definitely very street smart too...but I have not shown any ill intentions towards him - maybe that's why he trusts me...

We'll see - not doing anything to rock the boat...still getting to know him better - Scorpios are notoriously hard to fathom...

[orca888]

Like, a moth flying into fire..........

I know - it's so irresistible

Not that it's a "forbidden" fruit or something but my boy is really very special - at least to me

[Guest Hello]

You are waiting for him to make the first move. Maybe he is waiting for you to make the first move. And with you never wanting to make the first move, he could feel frustrated waiting for you to make the first move and then he decided that you are not brave enough, and he will move on to find another guy or girl.

[orca888]

You are waiting for him to make the first move. Maybe he is waiting for you to make the first move. And with you never wanting to make the first move, he could feel frustrated waiting for you to make the first move and then he decided that you are not brave enough, and he will move on to find another guy or girl.

I know - that's my biggest fear that he really thinks that I am not interested in him

I will continue to work towards an opening

Guess we have to cross that bridge soon - hopefully I didn't miss the chance...

I thought that our recent holiday was a good time but I sort of chickened out cos he was enjoying himself so much...

We are planning to go for another holiday soon - hope it's not too late by then

I will be more vigilant and see if there's any opening before that...

Any suggestions of how to broach this matter? I am all ears

Can't say I have any experience in doing this

[Guest Guest]

Have you tried holding his hands? It can be in your car or somewhere the both of you are alone? Either he would pull away and you would know what answer is the answer or he would give you a firm grip back and smile back at you. Either or at least you tried.

[Exynos]

hi orca...

i would really suggest going all out and letting him how u feel. this must be a difference in horoscope (and maybe age), but i really don't see a point in u being in ur idyllic world, creating all these moments with ur "boy", when in the end, if he's straight or not interested in u then what's the point?

i mean, i dunno, lol... i was exactly like u orca when i was 16. i literally WASTED 2 years around a guy who didn't reciprocate my feels because he was straight. i know, in this moment, nothing else matters, but at the end of the day, is it really worth it?

[orca888]

Have you tried holding his hands? It can be in your car or somewhere the both of you are alone? Either he would pull away and you would know what answer is the answer or he would give you a firm grip back and smile back at you. Either or at least you tried.

Always wanted to but didn't

He does have very nice hands - soft and slender...hahah

The few times I got to hold his hands, it was to either feel for calluses, help him take off his gloves, help him put on his watch...

I want to just hold his hands for the sake of just holding them

But if he freaks out - doom is me right?

[orca888]

hi orca...

i would really suggest going all out and letting him how u feel. this must be a difference in horoscope (and maybe age), but i really don't see a point in u being in ur idyllic world, creating all these moments with ur "boy", when in the end, if he's straight or not interested in u then what's the point?

i mean, i dunno, lol... i was exactly like u orca when i was 16. i literally WASTED 2 years around a guy who didn't reciprocate my feels because he was straight. i know, in this moment, nothing else matters, but at the end of the day, is it really worth it?

Hey, thanks for dropping by

I guess old unker is still very traditional in my thinking...sigh

At the moment, we are happy as brothers - so that in itself makes me quite contented...

Should we be continuing on like this? I seriously don't know to be honest...a big part of me says that I don't mind...of course there's also another part of me saying that we could be more...

Guess there's no easy answer to this thorny issue

Sorry to hear about your experience...thanks for sharing...

Whether or not it's worth it - it depends on which "hat" we are wearing - as a brother and friend, I would say yes - he's definitely worth it...

But if I were seriously looking for a mate, probably not - then again, I really don't know if I am really looking for a mate at this point...remember, I wasn't even looking when he came along...

[Exynos]

you weren't looking for anything, but when he came along, you had a thought - "we could be more", no?

it's so hard to expect nothing, because u have given something... because we are human. i'm sure u know what the answer is... but straight guys. u know they're more complicated than women? straight guys are so good at giving off mixed signals, it's so hard to tell sometimes.

[orca888]

you weren't looking for anything, but when he came along, you had a thought - "we could be more", no?

it's so hard to expect nothing, because u have given something... because we are human. i'm sure u know what the answer is... but straight guys. u know they're more complicated than women? straight guys are so good at giving off mixed signals, it's so hard to tell sometimes.

Well, the thought slowly developed over time - especially after getting all the mixed signals...hahah

If there weren't any in the first place, I would have still treated him the same...strange huh?

Not sure if it's part of the Taurean thingy but I find that I can give unconditional love - or maybe I have been spending too much time with my dogs...hahah

But jokes aside, my expectations have been low and they have largely been met - he does treat me like his big brother - sets aside time for me, takes the trouble to message me etc...don't think if he doesn't care for me, he would do that right?

Erm, straight guys are more complicated than women? That's a new one to me...hahah

To the contrary, I don't think straight guys will give off mixed signals - they are pretty straight forward (pun unintended)...if not, I would have fallen for a straight guy much earlier no?

[Guest Guest]

Always wanted to but didn't

He does have very nice hands - soft and slender...hahah

The few times I got to hold his hands, it was to either feel for calluses, help him take off his gloves, help him put on his watch...

I want to just hold his hands for the sake of just holding them

But if he freaks out - doom is me right?

Ocra what are you afraid to find out? The outcome we can never predict. If you have come to terms, then you have nothing to lose but the whole world to gain.

The most important element in any human relationships be it family, friends or lovers, is acceptance. If he cannot accept you for who you are, it is his problem and not yours. Do not make his problem yours, this is where nightmare begins. Even if he accepts you and say that you can only remain as friends, then at least you know where you stand with him.

All the best.

[Exynos]

Well, the thought slowly developed over time - especially after getting all the mixed signals...hahah

If there weren't any in the first place, I would have still treated him the same...strange huh?

Not sure if it's part of the Taurean thingy but I find that I can give unconditional love - or maybe I have been spending too much time with my dogs...hahah

But jokes aside, my expectations have been low and they have largely been met - he does treat me like his big brother - sets aside time for me, takes the trouble to message me etc...don't think if he doesn't care for me, he would do that right?

Erm, straight guys are more complicated than women? That's a new one to me...hahah

To the contrary, I don't think straight guys will give off mixed signals - they are pretty straight forward (pun unintended)...if not, I would have fallen for a straight guy much earlier no?

i can only imagine how blissful u must feel to be around him. but i'm only telling u this cos i see u as a nice guy and a friend - it really isn't worth it. but hey, who am i to say? xD

and straight guys are amazing at giving off mixed signals. i've had "straight" classmates in my secondary school forcing a kiss on me, allowing me to hump them, or running to me to take a rest on my shoulder... all that, if injected with a "crush"... can develop into dangerous feelings

anyways, my last piece of advice "uncle" - if you can solve this problem, then why worry? and if u can't solve this problem, then why bother worrying? cheers

[Guest Guest]

straight guys are so good at giving off mixed signals, it's so hard to tell sometimes.

Its not that straight guys are gd at giving off mixed signals. Its bcos we are interested in men so we tend to think too much.

[Exynos]

Its not that straight guys are gd at giving off mixed signals. Its bcos we are interested in men so we tend to think too much.

true as well. but "bromance" is an increasing trend, no? hahaha

[orca888]

Ocra what are you afraid to find out? The outcome we can never predict. If you have come to terms, then you have nothing to lose but the whole world to gain.

The most important element in any human relationships be it family, friends or lovers, is acceptance. If he cannot accept you for who you are, it is his problem and not yours. Do not make his problem yours, this is where nightmare begins. Even if he accepts you and say that you can only remain as friends, then at least you know where you stand with him.

All the best.

Thanks for your advice

I am not afraid to find out - maybe afraid to lose him as my brother...

And I also don't want to make my problem his problem...hahah

My problem is that I have fallen for him...so it's not really a matter of him accepting me or not...

But yes, I am delaying the inevitable

It's probably something I need to answer to myself first...sigh

[orca888]

i can only imagine how blissful u must feel to be around him. but i'm only telling u this cos i see u as a nice guy and a friend - it really isn't worth it. but hey, who am i to say? xD

and straight guys are amazing at giving off mixed signals. i've had "straight" classmates in my secondary school forcing a kiss on me, allowing me to hump them, or running to me to take a rest on my shoulder... all that, if injected with a "crush"... can develop into dangerous feelings

anyways, my last piece of advice "uncle" - if you can solve this problem, then why worry? and if u can't solve this problem, then why bother worrying? cheers

Thanks again - different strokes for different folks I guess...hahah

Maybe it is me who's complicating the situation - he's perfect as my kid brother...sigh

LOL - I never had that done to me - maybe my straight friends would not dare in case I beat the crap out of them...hahah

Then again, I grew up in a different era - being gay is not acceptable

I think your last bit of advice makes sense - just enjoy the moment and see how things go...but it's easier said than done unfortunately...

To a Taurus, to have something so beautiful at our finger tips and not being to make it our own - it drives us crazy

[orca888]

Its not that straight guys are gd at giving off mixed signals. Its bcos we are interested in men so we tend to think too much.

That much is true too...

But never had this sort of mixed signals before - I am always in the company of straight guys - be it in the rugby team, swim team and other chest-beating, knuckle-dragging activities...hahah

[orca888]

true as well. but "bromance" is an increasing trend, no? hahaha

Well, I think I will settle for bromance

Fugly uncle can't be choosers right?

[Guest Guest]

That much is true too...

But never had this sort of mixed signals before - I am always in the company of straight guys - be it in the rugby team, swim team and other chest-beating, knuckle-dragging activities...hahah

Thats bcos these guys are not ur cup of tea.

[orca888]

Thats bcos these guys are not ur cup of tea.

Nope - cos I was already attached...hahah

The same is happening in my current situation - I am not even looking at other guys, cute or otherwise

[Guest Guest]

Nope - cos I was already attached...hahah

The same is happening in my current situation - I am not even looking at other guys, cute or otherwise

very good :clap: how many ppl can do that?

then again will u be attracted to similar muscular guys who have the character and personality that attract you?

or is it 'opposites attract' in terms of physical wise for u?

[orca888]

very good :clap: how many ppl can do that?

then again will u be attracted to similar muscular guys who have the character and personality that attract you?

or is it 'opposites attract' in terms of physical wise for u?

I don't know...I haven't try taking a straw poll

I am not totally sure to be honest - more of the personality and character I guess cos my ex and my boy are quite opposite in built and looks too...hahah

Currently, my boy is slim fit

[Guest Guest]

I don't know...I haven't try taking a straw poll

I am not totally sure to be honest - more of the personality and character I guess cos my ex and my boy are quite opposite in built and looks too...hahah

Currently, my boy is slim fit

ur ex is the muscular type?

anyway i feel that status quo cannot go on forever. it is merely for us to hide and not face it temporarily. eventually it has to go somewhere.

why dun u ask ur boy whether is there anyone on his mind now? start by asking any girls in sch, or......guys :twisted:

[janth]

the worst nightmare is to fall for a straight guy, but again they often make the best sad stories in life. To live is to suffer. EMO.

That's not the worst. The worst is to fall for a bi who was a best friend, be a third party in his relationship with a girl then get cast off and have to watch as he and his girlfriend work for a future together.

[Guest Guest]

That's not the worst. The worst is to fall for a bi who was a best friend, be a third party in his relationship with a girl then get cast off and have to watch as he and his girlfriend work for a future together.

'never get involved with a bisexual.' this is a golden rule most gays, including myself, adhere to. fun yes, r/s big NO NO.

[orca888]

ur ex is the muscular type?

anyway i feel that status quo cannot go on forever. it is merely for us to hide and not face it temporarily. eventually it has to go somewhere.

why dun u ask ur boy whether is there anyone on his mind now? start by asking any girls in sch, or......guys :twisted:

My ex was slightly stockier than my boy now...hahah

I won't call him muscular - he's hard and soft where it matters

Hmm...it does seem that way doesn't it? But the thing is that we kinda like the status quo - he's my kid brother and I am his big brother who takes care of him...

The thing is that he doesn't take advantage of me and while he appreciates that I am helping him whenever I can, he is still very independent and prefers to depend on himself...

Maybe he is still learning to trust me - after all, we have known each other for just over 4 months - so I don't blame him...

However, I can feel that his trust in me is increasing...so I have painted myself into a corner haven't I? :/

I think his ex is still bugging him and looking to patch up - knowing how soft-hearted he is, he may just agree...sigh

Anyway, I still think he's straight cos he's always adding girls in his FB...hahah

[orca888]

That's not the worst. The worst is to fall for a bi who was a best friend, be a third party in his relationship with a girl then get cast off and have to watch as he and his girlfriend work for a future together.

Life's complicated for sure...sigh

In my boy's case, I suspect he's more bi than straight...does that make things worse?

[spiffy729]

Its not that straight guys are gd at giving off mixed signals. Its bcos we are interested in men so we tend to think too much.

This is so true.

And I would like to provide a different perspective C.Marv has been giving, although I admit, getting rejected by straight guys, or by anyone, is ugly as fxxk -- no one wants to get rejected.

But if you can recall the great times of optimism you would have had while trying to stay close to this special person, and great blissful moments you must have experienced while chasing after this straight guy, or just.. guy, of yours, wouldn't you say that that was the most exciting part to the relationship?

I've never been in a relationship before, but I honestly believe the chase is the most exciting part to any relationship.

So Orca, whether or not you would like to take the big step to opening up to your 'boy', it's really up to you.

Enjoy the chase though, while you can, or want, or must...

We're all enjoying it too (okay enjoying is a very sadistic-sounding word) but yeah.

[spiffy729]

'never get involved with a bisexual.' this is a golden rule most gays, including myself, adhere to. fun yes, r/s big NO NO.

Excuse me for being naive in my question (lol the formalities) but I would just like to ask why.

I just kinda went through a mutual liking with a good bisexual friend of mine.. it was a very mature experience and by mature I mean it was well-approached; he wasn't looking for a relationship, but I kinda was, but we understood that the median of which is to remain friends but to be honest that we still were attracted to each other -- it's difficult but we're working it out happily.

Still, I would like to know why it's so difficult or bad to be in a relationship with a bisexual...?

[Guest Guest]

Excuse me for being naive in my question (lol the formalities) but I would just like to ask why.

I just kinda went through a mutual liking with a good bisexual friend of mine.. it was a very mature experience and by mature I mean it was well-approached; he wasn't looking for a relationship, but I kinda was, but we understood that the median of which is to remain friends but to be honest that we still were attracted to each other -- it's difficult but we're working it out happily.

Still, I would like to know why it's so difficult or bad to be in a relationship with a bisexual...?

bisexuals will normally experiment with dating guys in their dating phase but most will ultimately choose to settle down with girls and start their families. dun get confused with gays in denial and bisexuals. some gays in denial call themselves bisexuals but will come to realise they are really gays eventually. bisexuals are those who can get emotionally and sexually attached with both sex.

but u are only 18, maybe just listen to your heart and go experience yourself.