Orca888 And His 'straight' Boy

[orca888]

ya lor, horny whale. nxt time u post, remember to include key words like 'recognise', 'gay' or pointers on how to recognise a gay man. Better still, spy on your straight friends and chk with them how they recognise a gay man & share with us.

We are reading inputs from our own. It would be nice to know how our 'enemies' detect us.

This is your homework over the wknd. We hope to see more contribution from you, if not, Cyber S&M u.

BTW: 'How m i supposed to live(cum without you' is a better song than 'feelings'

Actually, I think more people here are more keen to "recognise" another gay guy, especially a very straight acting one...hahah

Most straight guys are not bothered by other straight acting gay guys (go figure)...chances are they don't even know (lucky me)...hahah

From my perspective (if I may add), I look and act no differently from any other straight guys - I also do the trashy straight guy talk...hahah

Maybe the only tell-tale sign is that I look after myself "better"

Of course, my dinner dates with my boy

[orca888]

ORCA, u redeemed yourself already.

While reading his replies, i noticed 2 things:

1. He mentioned SK-II which is another possible gay sign. I know of guys who prefer women's moisturizer to a men's one.

It's more effective. Furthermore, SKII is not targed at straight guys at all.

2. He mentioned 'sitting nxt to his boy boy'. I think body closeness & proximity is also another tell tale sign.

I know there are cases when 2 guys could be BFF, classmates, siblings, father/son. But a gay couple & the way they

relate to each other in a restaurant is very different from all the above, like husband & wife.

Note: I like Peking Duck because I like skin & duck is very gay.

Another possible gay sign?

I was kidding about the SKII - I don't use it...hahah

But in terms of perfume, maybe gay guys prefer a more fruity accent? I know I like CK fragrances a lot...hahah

And yes, body language is usually the main giveaway but fortunately, a lot of people (especially the straight guys) don't know how to read it very well

Fag hags are another thing altogether - I have one colleague who's one and we are pretty good friends - however, her gaydar has not detected me (yet)...hahah

Yup, close physical proximity is probably another giveaway - most straight guys will probably find it awkward to have others invade their physical/personal space...

Plus I admit I have been "guilty" of this - staring into my boy's eyes all the time when we talk - strangely enough, he doesn't shy away either...

Not many straight guys would do that huh?

PS - I love peking duck too...hahah

[Guest Guest]

I was kidding about the SKII - I don't use it...hahah

But in terms of perfume, maybe gay guys prefer a more fruity accent? I know I like CK fragrances a lot...hahah

And yes, body language is usually the main giveaway but fortunately, a lot of people (especially the straight guys) don't know how to read it very well

Fag hags are another thing altogether - I have one colleague who's one and we are pretty good friends - however, her gaydar has not detected me (yet)...hahah

Yup, close physical proximity is probably another giveaway - most straight guys will probably find it awkward to have others invade their physical/personal space...

Plus I admit I have been "guilty" of this - staring into my boy's eyes all the time when we talk - strangely enough, he doesn't shy away either...

Not many straight guys would do that huh?

PS - I love peking duck too...hahah

I was thinking about the choice of cologne that gay man prefers. It takes a fruit to recognise another. I prefer the fruity scent.

Some straight friends of mine loved it, compliments "u smell so good". Only a few commented that "it's too sweet for them, like a gal".

I tried going for the more woody, musky scents but they dun quite agree with me. I spray cologne to feel good & attractive.

Straight guys on the other hand see cologne as a way to mask body odour. They are not particularly selective about the brand

and the scent too overpowering at times. They dun want to spend too much on cologne, too.

Talking about fag hag, I think she knows. She just hide her gaydar in her vagina for the time being. Perhaps she is in denial or ready to play Joan of Arc to be brave enuff to ungay u. I relate very well to them because I listen to them & make them happy.

The way a guy stares into the eyes of another guy is another giveaway, but more subtle & longer reconition time. I had the experience of relating to straight married guys and after having a candlelight dinner, almost ended up copulating. So now I walk with head down & eyes on the ground:(. So both of you should just give up the charade & consummate in Japan & have lots of babies.

I think gays are better singers, more talented and linguistic. Also more aesthetic. They like to cook & love gardening?Unforunately, these are also true for the metrosexual, too. Gayness exist in all men, I believe. In straight man, it manifests as male bonding. Wonder what's the percentage of gayness is in a metrosexual? 30%? or more?

Another interesting sign. I had gone out with a mixture of guys & gals on holidays. We had to share a twin room. We let the one gal occupied one bed and 3 of us got to share one. I of them immediately declined & preferred to sleep on the floor. So one guy(whom I suspect was gay) & myself slept on one. Repulsion of the same sex theory.

U try using SK-II on your neh neh to make them more pinkish lah.

But dun try it on your cock bcoz you dun want to frighten your boy boy with a geoduck that glows in the dark. Anyway, weird smell , like cunt juice(which u have tasted before).

Wait, gays are more emotional & sensitive, therefore possessed heightened sensory perception.

Another possible gay sign!?

[Guest Guest]

I have to admit - I ticked all the boxes for the straight man...except I don't eat prata

Does that make me straight? hahah

Yah, u eat poh piah lah coz bean sprout inside good for sperm production.

That's why this thread exist - to out people like you.

Nowhere to hide now!

[orca888]

not neccessary straight but may be more top?

Yup, top definitely

[orca888]

I was thinking about the choice of cologne that gay man prefers. It takes a fruit to recognise another. I prefer the fruity scent.

Some straight friends of mine loved it, compliments "u smell so good". Only a few commented that "it's too sweet for them, like a gal".

I tried going for the more woody, musky scents but they dun quite agree with me. I spray cologne to feel good & attractive.

Straight guys on the other hand see cologne as a way to mask body odour. They are not particularly selective about the brand

and the scent too overpowering at times. They dun want to spend too much on cologne, too.

Talking about fag hag, I think she knows. She just hide her gaydar in her vagina for the time being. Perhaps she is in denial or ready to play Joan of Arc to be brave enuff to ungay u. I relate very well to them because I listen to them & make them happy.

The way a guy stares into the eyes of another guy is another giveaway, but more subtle & longer reconition time. I had the experience of relating to straight married guys and after having a candlelight dinner, almost ended up copulating. So now I walk with head down & eyes on the ground:(. So both of you should just give up the charade & consummate in Japan & have lots of babies.

I think gays are better singers, more talented and linguistic. Also more aesthetic. They like to cook & love gardening?Unforunately, these are also true for the metrosexual, too. Gayness exist in all men, I believe. In straight man, it manifests as male bonding. Wonder what's the percentage of gayness is in a metrosexual? 30%? or more?

Another interesting sign. I had gone out with a mixture of guys & gals on holidays. We had to share a twin room. We let the one gal occupied one bed and 3 of us got to share one. I of them immediately declined & preferred to sleep on the floor. So one guy(whom I suspect was gay) & myself slept on one. Repulsion of the same sex theory.

U try using SK-II on your neh neh to make them more pinkish lah.

But dun try it on your cock bcoz you dun want to frighten your boy boy with a geoduck that glows in the dark. Anyway, weird smell , like cunt juice(which u have tasted before).

Wait, gays are more emotional & sensitive, therefore possessed heightened sensory perception.

Another possible gay sign!?

Hmm...so maybe I should junk my CK then - by the way, I also got the same CK (Shock) for my boy - he likes it too...hahah

So maybe he's not so straight after all...hahah

But I think most straight guys won't bother with perfume - some of them don't even bother to bath in the morning before they leave their house...

And speaking of sense, I noticed that me and my boy kinda have the same scent - does it make sense that we are somehow also attracted by scent - say on a subconscious level?

Regarding the fag hag, I don't think so - she also got taken in my "imaginary" girlfriend...hahah

But she made an interesting comment when I was having lunch with her the other day - I had to take a call from my boy's dentist and we spoke at length regarding his procedure...later I told her that I was fixing up an appointment for my girlfriend's brother as my GF was too busy blah blah blah...

Her comment was that "hey, you sound like you are having a relationship with your girlfriend's brother" cos I was the one doing all the stuff for him, not "her"...I laughed it off and told her "I think so too"...and she left it at that...busted or not?

Yup, me and my boy constantly stare into each other's eyes but not leh?

Guess I don't have that animal magnetism to make him fall in love with me...sob

I think you are right bah - sexuality is a continuum - it's not as hardcoded as we think it is...

It's which side we choose to lean towards...nothing to do with physical appearances or behaviour...hahah

Anyway, during one of my school chalets, I think I was "molested" by this supposed straight guy too...had a girlfriend and was quite handsome...for some strange reason, he chose to squeeze next to me on the bed and during the night, I could feel that he was trying to touch my crotch...I am a very light sleeper but I didn't let on that I was awake...it was interesting...

Nah, I am not that kinky - but I will let my boy take the lead

Well, gays are supposedly more in touch with our feminine side mah...so in a way, our brains are probably wired differently too...hahah

[Guest Guest]

Hmm...so maybe I should junk my CK then - by the way, I also got the same CK (Shock) for my boy - he likes it too...hahah

So maybe he's not so straight after all...hahah

But I think most straight guys won't bother with perfume - some of them don't even bother to bath in the morning before they leave their house...

And speaking of sense, I noticed that me and my boy kinda have the same scent - does it make sense that we are somehow also attracted by scent - say on a subconscious level?

Regarding the fag hag, I don't think so - she also got taken in my "imaginary" girlfriend...hahah

But she made an interesting comment when I was having lunch with her the other day - I had to take a call from my boy's dentist and we spoke at length regarding his procedure...later I told her that I was fixing up an appointment for my girlfriend's brother as my GF was too busy blah blah blah...

Her comment was that "hey, you sound like you are having a relationship with your girlfriend's brother" cos I was the one doing all the stuff for him, not "her"...I laughed it off and told her "I think so too"...and she left it at that...busted or not?

Yup, me and my boy constantly stare into each other's eyes but not leh?

Guess I don't have that animal magnetism to make him fall in love with me...sob

I think you are right bah - sexuality is a continuum - it's not as hardcoded as we think it is...

It's which side we choose to lean towards...nothing to do with physical appearances or behaviour...hahah

Anyway, during one of my school chalets, I think I was "molested" by this supposed straight guy too...had a girlfriend and was quite handsome...for some strange reason, he chose to squeeze next to me on the bed and during the night, I could feel that he was trying to touch my crotch...I am a very light sleeper but I didn't let on that I was awake...it was interesting...

Nah, I am not that kinky - but I will let my boy take the lead

Well, gays are supposedly more in touch with our feminine side mah...so in a way, our brains are probably wired differently too...hahah

When you mentioned brand like CK which founder is gay and has a huge gay following, probably another gay indicator.

If you tell the straight ah pek, he would probably say "yeah, I also like CK, CK deparment store in Chinatown.

Straight ppl would not bother with brand/fashion/style, they would wear whatever their galfriends/wivies had prepared for them.

They would prefer black, blue, gray but are repulsive to red & pink.

Straight people are not so hygiene-conscious as gay. They also exude this - the natural scent of a real man. Their little brother also very smelly, like one-month-old century egg. I met this straight man who has brownie stains on his undies. Yuks.

Another thing to look out for in the locker room is when a guy washes his face. A straight probably just use soap. A gay guy exofoliate, tone & moisturise. But in Korea, a straight man does that it.

I feel that a woman like your faghag has better gaydar than a straight man. Anyway, this is also her specialty. She is able to pick up the nuances faster & better than man. I think she could decipher out from your look & your tone while talking to your boy boy dentist. Matter like dental hygiene is getting too personal for a galfriiend's brother.

I also met a lot of straight-acting gays who were molested since young. If u were straight, you would be jumping out & very angry. Maybe, u want to experience that, too? Little Kinky Monster.

allow me to divert. It is still possible for someone like you(so adele) to becum straight again, say if Ms Universe has the hots for u?

A, how cum no dinner with boy boy tonite?

[orca888]

When you mentioned brand like CK which founder is gay and has a huge gay following, probably another gay indicator.

If you tell the straight ah pek, he would probably say "yeah, I also like CK, CK deparment store in Chinatown.

Straight ppl would not bother with brand/fashion/style, they would wear whatever their galfriends/wivies had prepared for them.

They would prefer black, blue, gray but are repulsive to red & pink.

Straight people are not so hygiene-conscious as gay. They also exude this - the natural scent of a real man. Their little brother also very smelly, like one-month-old century egg. I met this straight man who has brownie stains on his undies. Yuks.

Another thing to look out for in the locker room is when a guy washes his face. A straight probably just use soap. A gay guy exofoliate, tone & moisturise. But in Korea, a straight man does that it.

I feel that a woman like your faghag has better gaydar than a straight man. Anyway, this is also her specialty. She is able to pick up the nuances faster & better than man. I think she could decipher out from your look & your tone while talking to your boy boy dentist. Matter like dental hygiene is getting too personal for a galfriiend's brother.

I also met a lot of straight-acting gays who were molested since young. If u were straight, you would be jumping out & very angry. Maybe, u want to experience that, too? Little Kinky Monster.

allow me to divert. It is still possible for someone like you(so adele) to becum straight again, say if Ms Universe has the hots for u?

A, how cum no dinner with boy boy tonite?

I don't really care if CK is gay but his fragrance is nice

Guess I am not the typical ah pek...phew

But guys are dressing a lot better these days - clothes are all tailored and bespoke - many now come with fanciful trims etc...

So with more metrosexuals around, it's harder and harder to spot a gay guy...hahah

Anyway, my boy do exofoliate, tone & moisturise... hahah

I can spend up to 20-30 minutes waiting for him to do his face and hair after our gym sessions...not that I mind although he did SMS me before to say that he felt "bad" always making me wait for him....

That fag hag colleague of mine is quite perceptive too - better not reveal too much of my outings with my boy to her...hahah

The dental procedure is for his braces - not too personal I think...but yes, I do admit that I can get a bit protective of my boy - plus I am the sort of "take charge" person while my boy is the "anything" sort...

Nah, I wasn't really molested...he was just trying to cope a feel

Maybe - a straight guy would probably react differently - but there are a lot of stories about how straight guys can get it on with other guys in the army....never experienced it myself

Is it possible for me to turn straight again? Maybe - but I am not emotionally attracted to a woman...so it's going to be tough...

Then again, I have my boy now - he's still "straight" but maybe less so after the time spent together...

Oh, he's working late yesterday but we did go out with 2 mutual friends for drinks and karaoke...he got seriously wasted

At least I got the chance to take care of him (I didn't drink much cos I am the designated driver)...also got to bring him back to my place to crash for a few hours...

Should have brought him home earlier instead of wasting 1.5 hours at his car-park waiting for him to get sober enough to go home...

The good thing was we were literally attached at the hip - I was holding him up while he was puking and he was hugging me at some point too - wished that the circumstances were better though...

Oh, we did sleep in the same bed for 4 hours but there was no hanky panky - I respect him too much to take advantage of him...

[Guest Guest]

ORCA888

To sleep nxt to a straight man for 4 hours - very big gay sign!

I m sure you got a boner lah.

In Jap Kaikan, straight men would pretend to fall asleep , waiting to be deflowered .

Nxt morning, pretend to have amnesia when u see them in the bath.

20 mins to wash face/style hair, too long for a straight man.

A chinese saying goes like this "niu wei yue zi ze rong', i guess he's doing for you lor.

Army lots of funny things. Some supposedly straight officer/NCO had given me the following signs:

1. came to my bunk at nite to hug me after 2359

2. invitation to their bunk for fellatio at nite

3. posed as MO to ask me to strip

4. must gather around in a circle & pee (in the forest)

Are you one of them?

A gay top is much more difficult to be recognised.

[orca888]

ORCA888

To sleep nxt to a straight man for 4 hours - very big gay sign!

I m sure you got a boner lah.

In Jap Kaikan, straight men would pretend to fall asleep , waiting to be deflowered .

Nxt morning, pretend to have amnesia when u see them in the bath.

20 mins to wash face/style hair, too long for a straight man.

A chinese saying goes like this "niu wei yue zi ze rong', i guess he's doing for you lor.

Army lots of funny things. Some supposedly straight officer/NCO had given me the following signs:

1. came to my bunk at nite to hug me after 2359

2. invitation to their bunk for fellatio at nite

3. posed as MO to ask me to strip

4. must gather around in a circle & pee (in the forest)

Are you one of them?

A gay top is much more difficult to be recognised.

No lah, he treats me like his brother and so do I...of course, hugging him is damn nice

Of course, he did say that he couldn't remember much when he woke up - but I think he had an erection when I was holding him close

I was having a semi - trying very hard (pun unintended) to have a full-blown one cos he was leaning into me

Nah, that's his usual timing - hmm, my ex takes about the same time to get ready too...hahah

Then again, my boy is a metrosexual and looking good is important to him...not that I mind

Nope - never happen to me although someone did suggest that they have a circle jerk when during one of my first topo exercise with them - I was just posted in as their PC...nope, not a wise move...hahah

Then again, the cute guy wasn't in my topo group

Yup, tops are harder to recognise

[Guest Guest]

No lah, he treats me like his brother and so do I...of course, hugging him is damn nice

Of course, he did say that he couldn't remember much when he woke up - but I think he had an erection when I was holding him close

I was having a semi - trying very hard (pun unintended) to have a full-blown one cos he was leaning into me

Nah, that's his usual timing - hmm, my ex takes about the same time to get ready too...hahah

Then again, my boy is a metrosexual and looking good is important to him...not that I mind

Nope - never happen to me although someone did suggest that they have a circle jerk when during one of my first topo exercise with them - I was just posted in as their PC...nope, not a wise move...hahah

Then again, the cute guy wasn't in my topo group

Yup, tops are harder to recognise

Ur actions baffled me.

In the 1st place, where's his galfriend?

She should be informed of his whereabout & whether she would want to come down to get him back home?

2ndly, why didn't u send him straight home then to chill for 4hrs at your place?

How would people perceive 2 men - I sober & 1 drunk together waiting for the elevator?

3rdly, U could have let him rest on the sofa or another bedrm, why together on your (water)bed?

4thly, hugging a guy in public is a 'what-th -heck-are-these-men-doing-r-they-homo' sign.

Hugging a man to sleep(though common in korea/china but 1-thing-leads-to-another sign), would a straight man do that?

Would another straight man allow himself to be hugged? If there are straight men in the room, would you be more cautious.

As for erection, a drunk man normally have an erection after too much alcohol. How did you know? using your leg to feel?

Any man who is drunk is still 30% awake(as the saying goes), U sure he's not aware?

I guess both of you are trying so hard not to be recognised but rehearsing for the inevitable - a prelude to a kiss

Good script for a drama or movie though.

[orca888]

Ur actions baffled me. In the 1st place, where's his galfriend? She should be informed of his whereabout & whether she would want to come down to get him back home? 2ndly, why didn't u send him straight home then to chill for 4hrs at your place? How would people perceive 2 men - I sober & 1 drunk together waiting for the elevator? 3rdly, U could have let him rest on the sofa or another bedrm, why together on your (water)bed? 4thly, hugging a guy in public is a 'what-th -heck-are-these-men-doing-r-they-homo' sign. Hugging a man to sleep(though common in korea/china but 1-thing-leads-to-another sign), would a straight man do that? Would another straight man allow himself to be hugged? If there are straight men in the room, would you be more cautious. As for erection, a drunk man normally have an erection after too much alcohol. How did you know? using your leg to feel? Any man who is drunk is still 30% awake(as the saying goes), U sure he's not aware? I guess both of you are trying so hard not to be recognised but rehearsing for the inevitable - a prelude to a kiss Good script for a drama or movie though.

Why do my actions baffle you? hahah

He has just broke up with his girlfriend of 3 weeks...another sign?

I did send him home - or tried to but he was way past gone - couldn't even stand straight (pun unintended)...and he was puking for the past 1.5 hours...

Decided that enough was enough - rather bring him to my place to crash first

Should have done it earlier but he wanted to go home at first - so I didn't force the issue...

How do I know that he was having an erection? He was in bermudas and at one stage, we were hugging face to face...hahah

Then he was lying on my car seat (inclined), and I was sitting on the door sill facing him, I think I would have noticed it...hahah

He was quite contented to let me hold him - my arms were around him even then - so nice too

Yup, we did draw a few stares from my neighbour when we were walking from my car to my block

Okay, we weren't hugging in bed - I was proper all the time although we remain quite close

He claims he can't remember what happened but if he did, I didn't do anything improper also...maybe I should have...nah, that's just not me

Plus we are going for our holiday this Friday - why rush when we will be alone again in our room...and there're more chances to get wasted - food and booze are included in our package

I would seriously kiss him - he has very delicious lips and even though he has just put his top braces on, he is still seriously hot (to me always)...hahah

But doubt if anything would happen - we should see

Edited March 26, 2012 by orca888

[Cosmo guy]

Nah, that's his usual timing - hmm, my ex takes about the same time to get ready too...hahah

Then again, my boy is a metrosexual and looking good is important to him...not that I

Come on , metrosexual is for straightguy, your boy is homosexual

[orca888]

Come on , metrosexual is for straightguy, your boy is homosexual

My boy is straight...at least that's what he seems...hahah

He's a chick magnet to boot - actually so was I when I was younger

[Guest Ordinary]

My boy is straight...at least that's what he seems...hahah He's a chick magnet to boot - actually so was I when I was younger

I think you yourself are still a chick magnet too

[Guest Guest]

Come on , metrosexual is for straightguy, your boy is homosexual

Yeah, universal gay sign. ORCA888, YOUR BOY IS HOMO. Should begin the penetration or be raptured for the 1st time.

[Guest Guest]

I think you yourself are still a chick magnet too2 c

2 chick magnets turning gay.

[Guest Guest]

From a top's perspective, it's not true at least to me - I prefer a guy to be a guy...hahah

If I want a woman, I can get a woman

U r saying that u prefer a guy with no obvious gay signs.

But what if ur boy boy moans like a female hyena, would u consider that a turn off?

[Guest Guest]

^{ORCA Fxxk Fxxk Fxxk (sorril i m cantonese)}

^{Did u ask why he broke up with gal? Girls are quite good to sense if her boy boy digs her or not.}

^{I guess she saw all the gay signs(of spending too much time & sharing him with another unker).}

^{In the early 70s, my uncle had spent too much time with a married man & let him stayed overnite. Both my grandparents & the wife not very happy. They knew it's just not normal for}

^{2 grown men(in their 30s) to be behind closed doors. Early gay sign.}

^{That's makes u a 'little three' lor. Any chance of reconcilation? Have they been intimate before?}

^{Ther drinking was to celebrate his liberation or to drown his sorrow over a bitch?}

^{U must luv him so much to tahan his puke? For me, I would disinfect him & the whole car with Detol Spray.}

^{Why the rush for a wknd break? must be Bangcock ah? Who suggested it? Is that a possible gay sign?}

^{Have both of undress in front of each other before? Straight men are at ease with each other.}

^{A gay man would react differently in the presence of a straight man. In this case - like to look or not? must pretend not to look but steal a look? Higher anxiety lvl.}

^{It's mandatory for u to update us with the climax of your episode in this thread. Waiting with bated breath.}

[alien]

From a top's perspective, it's not true at least to me - I prefer a guy to be a guy...hahah

If I want a woman, I can get a woman

Whether from a top or btm perspective, i prefer a guy to be a guy, whether he talks, moan and behave, the only thing "special" on tis guy is he is homo. Like u said, if i like a guy woman, i might as well get a woman.

[orca888]

I think you yourself are still a chick magnet too

Wow thanks - you made an old unker very happy...hahah

Okay, I get my share of stares but mainly from the aunties these days...beggars can't be choosers I guess

[orca888]

2 chick magnets turning gay.

LOL - wouldn't the homophobic community have a field day with that...hahah

[orca888]

U r saying that u prefer a guy with no obvious gay signs. But what if ur boy boy moans like a female hyena, would u consider that a turn off?

Nope, I am not saying that - I accept my boy for who and what he is...

I love everything about him, even his flaws

[orca888]

^{ORCA Fxxk Fxxk Fxxk (sorril i m cantonese) Did u ask why he broke up with gal? Girls are quite good to sense if her boy boy digs her or not. I guess she saw all the gay signs(of spending too much time & sharing him with another unker). In the early 70s, my uncle had spent too much time with a married man & let him stayed overnite. Both my grandparents & the wife not very happy. They knew it's just not normal for 2 grown men(in their 30s) to be behind closed doors. Early gay sign. That's makes u a 'little three' lor. Any chance of reconcilation? Have they been intimate before? Ther drinking was to celebrate his liberation or to drown his sorrow over a bitch? U must luv him so much to tahan his puke? For me, I would disinfect him & the whole car with Detol Spray. Why the rush for a wknd break? must be Bangcock ah? Who suggested it? Is that a possible gay sign? Have both of undress in front of each other before? Straight men are at ease with each other. A gay man would react differently in the presence of a straight man. In this case - like to look or not? must pretend not to look but steal a look? Higher anxiety lvl. It's mandatory for u to update us with the climax of your episode in this thread. Waiting with bated breath.}

It's okay, I am half cantonese too...hahah

So the correct form is "til til til" right?

Anyway, I didn't ask him but from his ex's blog and twitter, my boy is damn boh chup and isn't at all romantic (with her)...I was the one who suggested that he get her flowers on V Day...hahah

You raised a good point - maybe she felt that something wasn't right...or then again, they are just incompatible - from what I know, his ex is quite a prima donna too...

I don't know if he told her that he's spending time with me...I am not sure but maybe I will try and ask when we are alone on our holiday (after some serious drinking)...hahah

Well, he was "emo" about the break-up for a day or so but recovered quite quickly - it's not his first nor will it be his last (with girls I hope)...hahah

I don't want to know if they have been intimate but what I gather, probably not...then again, I won't hold it against my boy - he's young and has raging hormones woah...

Yup, I love everything about him, so his puke is nothing...I would do a lot more for him - nothing is too small or too big if I can make it happen

Oh, I have two dogs, trust me, I have handled worse things than puke...hahah

Well, his term break is coming to an end plus he's also working part time - so he can't be away for too long...but we are planning a much longer one in the future

I suggested the weekend break - it's to Phuket...hahah

We gym together so undressing in front of each other is quite common although he remains somewhat shy - he doesn't strut around in his briefs in front of me although we pee besides each other all the time

Sure, hopefully I have good news to share - otherwise, I am just happy to spend some quality time with him alone for a couple of days

To me, he's a keeper

[Guest Guest]

YOU R AN ASSHOLE CANTONESE CRADLE SNATCHER. hehe

Your boy is in his 20s & u in your 40s. OMG!!!

Seriously, Phuket(u paying for him,2?) not a great place after theTsunami. Better be xtra careful since your boy is a bit down emotionally & him being fair (lots of water & metal) - ghost chick magnet! U dun want menage a trois, right?

U suggested? staying on patong beach or further up(twin or king bed?)

& yes, try the north & south thai cuisine. Very diff. more sour & spicy.

Another possible gay sign suggestion, go buy some nice massage oil from the hotel(if got spa) & ask him to choose a bottle, too, then ask if he could massage u at nite after a full day walking around. Also, offer to carry some of his stuffs so would be just right for him to massage you. He might suggest going to the spa but u say u just want a quick(ie) rub get rid of the pain, more like those shifu ones.

Dun take your towel off fully. Slowly, ask him to massage your SI FAT & just say you sat on some stones on the beach & it hurts like hell. See if there'sresistance. Then ask if he would like you to reciprocate?

This one I learnt from a married prof from Jeddah in Hamburg. For straight men, a massage is like pseudo gay sex, to them. Still straight & dignified.

Hope you could skype live from Phuket for us to watch & jack off at the same time 3=>,,....

[Phil]

Based on observations of at least 50 cocks, I say bloated(like a semi- erection) & swaying while peeing lah.

Dun believe, get very drunk & ask you friend to take a pic & post it here lor. Try Try!

Thanks, you seem really experienced!

I'll think about your suggestion... :twisted:

[Phil]

LOL - wouldn't the homophobic community have a field day with that...hahah

:lol:

[orca888]

YOU R AN ASSHOLE CANTONESE CRADLE SNATCHER. hehe

Your boy is in his 20s & u in your 40s. OMG!!!

Seriously, Phuket(u paying for him,2?) not a great place after theTsunami. Better be xtra careful since your boy is a bit down emotionally & him being fair (lots of water & metal) - ghost chick magnet! U dun want menage a trois, right?

U suggested? staying on patong beach or further up(twin or king bed?)

& yes, try the north & south thai cuisine. Very diff. more sour & spicy.

Another possible gay sign suggestion, go buy some nice massage oil from the hotel(if got spa) & ask him to choose a bottle, too, then ask if he could massage u at nite after a full day walking around. Also, offer to carry some of his stuffs so would be just right for him to massage you. He might suggest going to the spa but u say u just want a quick(ie) rub get rid of the pain, more like those shifu ones.

Dun take your towel off fully. Slowly, ask him to massage your SI FAT & just say you sat on some stones on the beach & it hurts like hell. See if there'sresistance. Then ask if he would like you to reciprocate?

This one I learnt from a married prof from Jeddah in Hamburg. For straight men, a massage is like pseudo gay sex, to them. Still straight & dignified.

Hope you could skype live from Phuket for us to watch & jack off at the same time 3=>,,....

No I am not...hahah, it just happens that he's that much younger - not planned or anything

No meh? I have been to Phuket twice already after the Tsunami - it's been fully restored and now looks even better...

My boy is definitely not down anymore - he's very resilient plus breakups are nothing new for him...hahah

Plus he has me to protect him

We are going to be over at Club Med - it's a super relaxing holiday for both of us

Oh, my guy can't take spicy...that's why we are at Club Med

I do him give quick massages on his neck and shoulders from time to time - he doesn't seem to mind - so he does like a little pampering from me

Most probably we will be going for a Thai massage - couple style but clean...don't want others to take advantage of him...hahah

Hopefully the weather is good - we are just going to vegetate at the pool/beach

3 whole nights with my boy - wow

Nah - I don't think we will get very far in the explicit direction unless he's willing...hahah

Oh, did I tell you that he was not really that drunk that night? He could remember quite a large chunk of what was going on - so it also means that he was okay with hugging me and me holding him so close...hahah

And it was a good thing I didn't take advantage of him

[Guest Guest]

ORCA888,

Safe trip & remember you April fools joke on him(coming out to him)?

Remember to report after your trip.

[orca888]

ORCA888, Safe trip & remember you April fools joke on him(coming out to him)? Remember to report after your trip.

Ok back - very clean...hahah

Nothing explicit but we did enjoy our bonding time together

Way too short - even my boy complained that we should have stayed a week...hahah

Oh well, he's okay with going on holidays with me - our next one should be in Jun

[Guest Guest]

Ok back - very clean...hahah

Nothing explicit but we did enjoy our bonding time together

Way too short - even my boy complained that we should have stayed a week...hahah

Oh well, he's okay with going on holidays with me - our next one should be in Jun

Both of you clean up after sex?

Nothing xplicit? so got kissing, petting & hugging plus homoerotic massage?

So boy boy still in denial and could not recognise all the gay signs?

Want to stay longer? Hmm? Want to go again in Jun?

I had so many ___ dreams of both of you over the wknd and now this anticlimax?

[Phil]

._. so anyway

about recognising the gay man....

I suppose that to be sure to recognize needs more trips abroad together?

Welcome back, Orca; where next time?

[orca888]

I suppose that to be sure to recognize needs more trips abroad together?

Welcome back, Orca; where next time?

LOL - it's true

The short trip is probably a good sign to test how both of us can live with each other without getting on each other's nerves - I think we passed that test

Probably another short trip to Bangkok this time and a longer one in Dec or Mar next year

Still working on going to Paris

[Phil]

Welcome to Paris.

Maybe easier to recognize a gay man here?

[orca888]

Welcome to Paris.

Maybe easier to recognize a gay man here?

LOL - when the two of us are together, I think it's a dead giveaway...

Even though he's straight (bi at the very most), we do look/behave like a couple when we are out and about

[Phil]

LOL - when the two of us are together, I think it's a dead giveaway...

Even though he's straight (bi at the very most), we do look/behave like a couple when we are out and about

Let me judge.

Just come here!

[Guest LookingFromAnotherAngle]

Ok back - very clean...hahah Nothing explicit but we did enjoy our bonding time together Way too short - even my boy complained that we should have stayed a week...hahah Oh well, he's okay with going on holidays with me - our next one should be in Jun

Both of you spent few nights together in a hotel room, you have many opportunities to have some kind of intimacy with him but nothing of the sort happened. The possibilities are your boy is straight or he is bi but you are not his type. He treats you as a friend or rather a big bro. He turn to you when he broke up with his ex gf, you consoled him and let him pour his sorrows. He feel comfortable with you as you protect and showed your concern. You claimed there are mixed signals from him or could it be you perceived wrongly. I would guess your boy is straight. The kind of bond you have with him can only be fraternity or friendship. Falling for a straight, the journey is going to be painful. Hope my guess is wrong. Anyway, wish you all the best

[Guest Guest]

Both of you spent few nights together in a hotel room, you have many opportunities to have some kind of intimacy with him but nothing of the sort happened. The possibilities are your boy is straight or he is bi but you are not his type. He treats you as a friend or rather a big bro. He turn to you when he broke up with his ex gf, you consoled him and let him pour his sorrows. He feel comfortable with you as you protect and showed your concern. You claimed there are mixed signals from him or could it be you perceived wrongly. I would guess your boy is straight. The kind of bond you have with him can only be fraternity or friendship. Falling for a straight, the journey is going to be painful. Hope my guess is wrong. Anyway, wish you all the best

Poignant but wise. I have heard stories of gay & straight together then gone because the straight wants to have children(in the 1st time dun you know gay man has no eggs). Poor gay left to mourn the lost of his 'true' love for yrs. So sad.

[Phil]

Wise only if it applies to this situation.

But in Orca's case, I think it's impossible that his boy is straight.

Pure friendship would not go so far, in my opinion...

[Guest oldman]

Well, there are all kind of people in this world. A straight boy can also enjoy the companion and friendship of a gay friend. The boy can also be 10% or 20% gay ...

[Guest Guest]

In ORCA case is just can see cannot touch(all the way).

Maybe when his straight friend get married & have children, ORCA could be their godfather.

[Phil]

Well, there are all kind of people in this world. A straight boy can also enjoy the companion and friendship of a gay friend. The boy can also be 10% or 20% gay ...

I would bet well over 50%...

[orca888]

In ORCA case is just can see cannot touch(all the way). Maybe when his straight friend get married & have children, ORCA could be their godfather.

I have considered that as well...hahah

I don't mind as long as we are still together

[orca888]

Both of you spent few nights together in a hotel room, you have many opportunities to have some kind of intimacy with him but nothing of the sort happened. The possibilities are your boy is straight or he is bi but you are not his type. He treats you as a friend or rather a big bro. He turn to you when he broke up with his ex gf, you consoled him and let him pour his sorrows. He feel comfortable with you as you protect and showed your concern. You claimed there are mixed signals from him or could it be you perceived wrongly. I would guess your boy is straight. The kind of bond you have with him can only be fraternity or friendship. Falling for a straight, the journey is going to be painful. Hope my guess is wrong. Anyway, wish you all the best

Actually part of the reason is also me - I didn't want to go too far - I just want us to bond as brothers first - he's now more comfortable with me

I also want to show that I am not after his body or likes him just for sex...maybe I am just being too complicated

Anyway, I didn't really console him - and it's not like it's his first breakup...most of his relationships last around a month or so...LOL

We - on the other hand - are fast approaching our 4th month together

But even if we don't become a couple. I still think he's a keeper and having him in my life is already a godsend - as you can see, my expectations are not very high to begin with...hahah

[Guest Mamalimon]

Actually part of the reason is also me - I didn't want to go too far - I just want us to bond as brothers first - he's now more comfortable with me

I also want to show that I am not after his body or likes him just for sex...maybe I am just being too complicated

Anyway, I didn't really console him - and it's not like it's his first breakup...most of his relationships last around a month or so...LOL

We - on the other hand - are fast approaching our 4th month together

But even if we don't become a couple. I still think he's a keeper and having him in my life is already a godsend - as you can see, my expectations are not very high to begin with...hahah

You are not confident & afraid of losing him forever(his bad track record LTR = 1 mth).

If you do lose him, what would you do?

[orca888]

You are not confident & afraid of losing him forever(his bad track record LTR = 1 mth). If you do lose him, what would you do?

You are right - I am definitely not confident - after all, why would such a desirable young chap want anything to do with an old unker like me?

I don't know - I will cross that bridge when I come to it...

Anyway, his LTR record is with girls...he's still straight (or appearing to be)...

[Guest old]

Why you kept mentioning he is still straight ? Is it important ? Just enjoy the friendship and companion for the time being lar. There are lot of things you have no control.

[GachiMuchi]

Congratulation Orca888,

You and your admirers had successfully waylay the topic from 'How to recognise a gay man?' into that a topic about you and your 'Str8' boy.

So both topic will be split and this topic will aptly be renamed to reflect the topic discussed on you and your boy.

Please keep this topic about you and your boy here and not bring it over to the other topic again.

Comprende?

[orca888]

Why you kept mentioning he is still straight ? Is it important ? Just enjoy the friendship and companion for the time being lar. There are lot of things you have no control.

Because that's what he is...

Yes and no cos I definitely want our relationship to go further

But yes, I am enjoying the friendship and appreciate the time that he is setting aside for me

[fortiplus+]

walao, after 4 mths he's still "str8" n "virgin"!?

*kidding hor*

....actually appreciate ur sharing ur private side of life! tis is turning out 2b a suspense "thriller" - is he or is he not...will u or will u not!?

here's hoping a beatuiful outcome in the end.....ganbatte (jia-u)!!!