Orca888 And His 'straight' Boy

[P_Drinker]

u need to really vent. ur "venting" is so repressed.

[Guest Guest]

Uncle, dun mind i ask, at ur age how come havent come out of the closet?

Uncle like u with hot body can be a hit in the market u know. Every gay has a market value in the circle.

[Guest Guest]

exactly who is orca888?

A gentler & likeable 'GM". But GM is better looking hehe

[Guest Guest]

Uncle, dun mind i ask, at ur age how come havent come out of the closet?

Uncle like u with hot body can be a hit in the market u know. Every gay has a market value in the circle.

The problem is that we have not seen his face yet. Maybe Lobster? Or prawn?

Then can determine market value.

Maybe boy boy not attracted to uncle physically but bonded emotionally, like Christie & Phantom.

[Guest Guest]

I think uncle hitting menopause & there's a big void in his heart. Ah boy seems to be the only one that could fill his emptiness.

So to uncle, the boy is the Sun & uncle one of his planets. I think Pluto should fit uncle well. This puritan version of gay luv is unfortunately one-sided. Uncle is buying time for himself by repressing himself sexually(jerking himself off thinking of ah boy at nite). If ah boy choose to opt out of uncle's life one day, uncle would be very, very sad. BW readers, too

[orca888]

Uncle, dun mind i ask, at ur age how come havent come out of the closet?

Uncle like u with hot body can be a hit in the market u know. Every gay has a market value in the circle.

A couple of reasons - mainly because of my job...hahah

Plus I don't see the need to advertise myself as a gay guy

LOL - I was never in or on the flesh market nor do I intend to put myself on it - so how can I have a market value? hahah

[orca888]

A gentler & likeable 'GM". But GM is better looking hehe

What is GM? Sorry but to borrow a schoolboy's phrase - catch no ball

[orca888]

The problem is that we have not seen his face yet. Maybe Lobster? Or prawn?

Then can determine market value.

Maybe boy boy not attracted to uncle physically but bonded emotionally, like Christie & Phantom.

LOL - and I won't show my face...hahah

Let's just say I do get more than my fair share of second glances from both ladies and guys

Then again, it could also mean that I look like the elephant man

Anyway, my boy has very good taste - and I should leave it at that

[orca888]

I think uncle hitting menopause & there's a big void in his heart. Ah boy seems to be the only one that could fill his emptiness.

So to uncle, the boy is the Sun & uncle one of his planets. I think Pluto should fit uncle well. This puritan version of gay luv is unfortunately one-sided. Uncle is buying time for himself by repressing himself sexually(jerking himself off thinking of ah boy at nite). If ah boy choose to opt out of uncle's life one day, uncle would be very, very sad. BW readers, too

Big void in my heart? Not really - I already got 2 dogs to fill it...hahah

And even before he came along, I wasn't even looking for anyone...

But it's true - I only got eyes for my boy and my boy is the only guy on my mind - call me old fashion bah

One-sided love can also be called unconditional love - I think I have been spending too much time with my dogs...hahah

Jokes aside, I love him without any strings attached i.e. I don't expect to receive any favours in return...

As long as he's happy, it also brings a smile to my face

Maybe that's why we get along so well - our relationship is not transactional

Anyway, nothing is forever in this world - but as long as he has opted to share his time with me, I am already very happy...

Musings from a silly old unker

[Exynos]

I wish I could love like you. I think I did... a realy long time ago. The exact same situation about being so infatuated with someone, just that lucky for you and smartly for you, your guy actually likes you., as a person, hahaha.

Well, makes me feel like having a crush again!

[orca888]

I wish I could love like you. I think I did... a realy long time ago. The exact same situation about being so infatuated with someone, just that lucky for you and smartly for you, your guy actually likes you., as a person, hahaha.

Well, makes me feel like having a crush again!

Well, to be honest, I went in with very low expectations...hahah

And it was lucky that we managed to click from the get go - so there weren't any personality clashes over the last 4 months

We make each other laugh all the time and I believe that's the most important aspect of our "relationship"...

I think we also passed the "stay together" test after our short holiday in Phuket...so we are already planning our next holiday in June...

[Exynos]

well as long as you both are happy.

[Guest 2012]

Well... That is exactly how I felt for my ex-colleague... The only one I have eyes for... The difference is that I told him that I liked him and wanna date him. Sometimes, I wonder if it would be better if I had not been so upfront. At the very least, maybe I still can ask him out and see his smile without feeling awkward.

[Guest Guest]

Well... That is exactly how I felt for my ex-colleague... The only one I have eyes for... The difference is that I told him that I liked him and wanna date him. Sometimes, I wonder if it would be better if I had not been so upfront. At the very least, maybe I still can ask him out and see his smile without feeling awkward.

so what was the response from him?

[orca888]

Well... That is exactly how I felt for my ex-colleague... The only one I have eyes for... The difference is that I told him that I liked him and wanna date him. Sometimes, I wonder if it would be better if I had not been so upfront. At the very least, maybe I still can ask him out and see his smile without feeling awkward.

Maybe - sometimes being too upfront does have its pitfalls when the other party isn't ready to accept this...

Then again, the other party may never be ready...sigh

In my case, I am getting some very mixed signals from my 'straight' boy and this kinda puts me in a dilemma too...

If his signals were clearer - even if it's purely straight, the situation may be easier...hahah

[delon]

So I guess u must b 1 delectable unker 2 command so much attention from both sexes. Nice! I hv been reading tis thread with increasing interest n it seemed 2 top the charts everytime. Ha. I decided 2 break my silence now n share my 2 cents worth of comments.

So here's my take. I kept reading dat u r just happy 2 treat him as a bro or son but at the same time, it doesn't seem so 2 me from ur responses.

U called it a bonus but I can sense ur deep n secret longing 4 him 2 accept u as a partner. Therein lies the problem. When there is hope, there is also room 4 hurt n disappointment. I trust unker is wise enough 2 b able 2 get over it if he hitches up w a gal, but y set urself up 4 such possible disappointment n pain dat may come ur way? I'm not even going 2 ask whether it's worth it bcos I know the answer 4 now.

Maybe the 18 years old relationship hurt u 2 much n u dun really feel motivated enough 2 find the answers any sooner lest the bubble of hope bursts. To me, my love 4 a bro n partner varies n I can never love them the same way. So I guess u need 2 know his role in ur life bcos the more u love him, the more pain u may feel when he breaks ur heart.

I used 2 like a colleague v v much 2 n felt I could treat him altruistically without reciprocation. We clicked in many ways 2. But over time, my feelings 4 him ebbed n diminished when differences surfaced after more than 2 years n small cracks started 2 appear. My point here is all is dreamy now but when reality sets in, u will wake up from the dream someday.

I think ur boy is either gay n shy or straight n taking advantage of u. I fear 4 u dat it is the latter. I worry dat he knows ur feelings 2wards him n is just enjoying the attention u shower on him now. In fact, u may hv created a situation where he is so comfortable being ur center of attention dat he doesn't feel motivated 2 find a gf.

From all ur posts thus far, I think u r a swell, sweet n wonderful guy. So dun pin ur hopes on 1 person alone. U need ur time n space 2 find love 2. U owe it 2 urself 2 do dat. So dun punish urself by trapping urself in2 tis small corner until it's 2 late.

Orca, we feel 4 u, so wake up the killer whale instincts inside u n embrace ur life 4 wat u truly deserve.

Edited April 11, 2012 by delon

[Guest Guest]

What is GM? Sorry but to borrow a schoolboy's phrase - catch no ball

Heartless Animal. He is your Big Brother who gave your own own thread.

The only balls you can catch is your ah boy's.

[orca888]

Heartless Animal. He is your Big Brother who gave your own own thread.

The only balls you can catch is your ah boy's.

Opps - it was early in the morning and I haven't had my coffee yet...hahah

Sorry, big brother - big shout out of thanks to you

[Guest 2012]

Maybe - sometimes being too upfront does have its pitfalls when the other party isn't ready to accept this...

Then again, the other party may never be ready...sigh

In my case, I am getting some very mixed signals from my 'straight' boy and this kinda puts me in a dilemma too...

If his signals were clearer - even if it's purely straight, the situation may be easier...hahah

In my case, I am way too passive aggressive. I feel that I am doormat-ish with him and hence it probably will never had a chance to blossom, given how imbalanced I positioned myself with him. Anyway, he never said that he is gay and in the end, he shared that he is attached...

During that time, I just would im him and meet him up for lunch. This continued for more than one and half years.

I know there will be people who asked how come you didn't even ask if he is attached or gay. The truth is that I didn't really care about that for I just came out of a 6 years relationship and not ready to take another rejection. At the same time, it has its benefits because it was a time where I get energized to be excellent in every area of my life to keep up with him. And indeed, I did very well in all areas of my life except love.

In the end, when I told him I like him, he rejected me. It was kinda awkward as I did it over email... (which again points to my passive aggressiveness)... It's been 2 months, I am surprisingly okay. Probably because I just don't have time to be depressed with my workload and other commitments. At the same time, I have been trying to repair my friendship with him with some success... In the end, I just want him to happy and fulfilled in his life... I am not sure if I will ever see him again... that is the tough part because I just think he will reject my initiation. I do missed his beautiful smile.

[orca888]

So I guess u must b 1 delectable unker 2 command so much attention from both sexes. Nice! I hv been reading tis thread with increasing interest n it seemed 2 top the charts everytime. Ha. I decided 2 break my silence now n share my 2 cents worth of comments.

So here's my take. I kept reading dat u r just happy 2 treat him as a bro or son but at the same time, it doesn't seem so 2 me from ur responses.

U called it a bonus but I can sense ur deep n secret longing 4 him 2 accept u as a partner. Therein lies the problem. When there is hope, there is also room 4 hurt n disappointment. I trust unker is wise enough 2 b able 2 get over it if he hitches up w a gal, but y set urself up 4 such possible disappointment n pain dat may come ur way? I'm not even going 2 ask whether it's worth it bcos I know the answer 4 now.

Maybe the 18 years old relationship hurt u 2 much n u dun really feel motivated enough 2 find the answers any sooner lest the bubble of hope bursts. To me, my love 4 a bro n partner varies n I can never love them the same way. So I guess u need 2 know his role in ur life bcos the more u love him, the more pain u may feel when he breaks ur heart.

I used 2 like a colleague v v much 2 n felt I could treat him altruistically without reciprocation. We clicked in many ways 2. But over time, my feelings 4 him ebbed n diminished when differences surfaced after more than 2 years n small cracks started 2 appear. My point here is all is dreamy now but when reality sets in, u will wake up from the dream someday.

I think ur boy is either gay n shy or straight n taking advantage of u. I fear 4 u dat it is the latter. I worry dat he knows ur feelings 2wards him n is just enjoying the attention u shower on him now. In fact, u may hv created a situation where he is so comfortable being ur center of attention dat he doesn't feel motivated 2 find a gf.

From all ur posts thus far, I think u r a swell, sweet n wonderful guy. So dun pin ur hopes on 1 person alone. U need ur time n space 2 find love 2. U owe it 2 urself 2 do dat. So dun punish urself by trapping urself in2 tis small corner until it's 2 late.

Orca, we feel 4 u, so wake up the killer whale instincts inside u n embrace ur life 4 wat u truly deserve.

I won't call myself delectable :oops:

Unker is unker - still got people want meh?

But thanks for sharing your thoughts - I really appreciate them

To be honest, I am happy with status quo but being human, we always strive for something better right? It's the same with me - he would make anyone (female or male) a great partner...

If he could be mine - it's really a bonus but I know my own limitations - even if he's gay, I may be too old for him...I am in relatively good shape and in the pink of health so I have quite a few good years left in me...

But realistically, we are like from two different social worlds...

However, he does not seem to mind - that's what I admire about him too - he does what he likes and doesn't give two hoots about what people think - he is a Scorpio after all...hahah

Did my 18-year relationship hurt me? Nah - to the contrary, I felt that the relationship has somehow prepared me for my boy...

Was our meeting by chance or fate? I am inclined to believe in the latter - he came along just at the right time and I wasn't even looking for a partner to be honest...

Thanks for sharing your experience with your ex-colleague...I can understand what you are saying...cracks can start to appear as the love diminishes...I can accept that - we are humans and we are not perfect and I love my boy and all his flaws...and I think his flaws make him uniquely him...

I guess we all make use of everybody as long as we can get some advantage - it happens in the business world all the time - i make no bones that I am guilty of this too...

So is my boy taking advantage of me? Maybe a little cos I told him not to sweat about the small stuff...

But I think my boy has more integrity than that - that's what I admire about him too - his strength of character and his attitude

Anyway, he does know that I care a lot for him - both as a brother and a good friend...he does too...

Hmm...if he's so comfortable with me that he isn't motivated to find a girlfriend, isn't that to my advantage? hahah

Jokes aside, I still maintain the assumption that he's straight and I will treat him as such...the ball is in his court really and it's up to him to accept "us"...

You are right - as with any prudent guy, I shouldn't put all my eggs in one basket...but in reality, I am not really looking in the first place...hahah

You can also call me old fashioned bah (or another bad Taurean trait), but I can only commit to just one person...by the way, I am also in the closet so I don't do flings or flungs

Am I punishing myself? Nah - I really enjoy the time we spent together and I really appreciate my boy for taking the effort to set aside time for me...

I think it's mutual for both of us - we don't have to do the things we do but we do it because we want to...

Thanks again for your thoughts

[Exynos]

I admire your steadfastness but you need to stop the "i'm so old, got people want meh" comments.. it's.. unhealthy.

[orca888]

I admire your steadfastness but you need to stop the "i'm so old, got people want meh" comments.. it's.. unhealthy.

It was also "tongue in cheek"

Yes, my awful humor is going to get me killed one day

[Exynos]

It was also "tongue in cheek" Yes, my awful humor is going to get me killed one day

haha oh u hot guys. passing it off as "tongue in cheek"

[orca888]

haha oh u hot guys. passing it off as "tongue in cheek"

Modesty is a virtue no?

[Exynos]

Modesty is a virtue no?

it can come across as "fishing for compliments" but i suppose that isn't ur concern.

can i ask u. do u lavish gifts for ur guy, and literally do everything for him?

[orca888]

it can come across as "fishing for compliments" but i suppose that isn't ur concern. can i ask u. do u lavish gifts for ur guy, and literally do everything for him?

Well, I only care about compliments from one person alone

Define lavish...hahah

It's all relative isn't it...

But yes, I would do anything for him (short of murder, rape etc)...

[Exynos]

Like u know. U often get him gifts, or u try to be there as much as possible for him, so that u.. know ur doing something for him, and doing something to contribute to his life to make it easier/nicer for him.

I used to do that.. it felt like a really ncie thing even though i regretted it anyways.

[orca888]

Like u know. U often get him gifts, or u try to be there as much as possible for him, so that u.. know ur doing something for him, and doing something to contribute to his life to make it easier/nicer for him.

I used to do that.. it felt like a really ncie thing even though i regretted it anyways.

I try to help him in whatever way I can...and it could mean all the above

Nope, no regrets for me - as long as he's happy, I am also happy

[Exynos]

I try to help him in whatever way I can...and it could mean all the above Nope, no regrets for me - as long as he's happy, I am also happy

i know what u mean.

because it's so important to know u have the ability to protect him, and make sure nothing bad happens to him, and that he's always kept away from his fears... that was exactly how i was!! hahaa

[Phil]

..........

But yes, I would do anything for him (short of murder, rape etc)...

Rape ?

Are you sure? :twisted:

[orca888]

Rape ?

Are you sure? :twisted:

Yes, I won't rape anyone, even for him

Unless of course, it's in a computer game - that's a term we use when we vastly overpower our opponents...hahah

[orca888]

i know what u mean.

because it's so important to know u have the ability to protect him, and make sure nothing bad happens to him, and that he's always kept away from his fears... that was exactly how i was!! hahaa

Looking at my size, I have often been asked if I work as a bodyguard or bouncer...especially when I work on my boxing routine in the gym...hahah

Yes, woe is anyone who tries to do harm to my boy

However, I know that I have the tendency to over-protect and I must learn to give him his own space

And it's nice to know that you have also shared a similar experience

[Phil]

Yes, I won't rape anyone, even for him

Unless of course, it's in a computer game - that's a term we use when we vastly overpower our opponents...hahah

But maybe you might rape HIM one day?

Sorry, it was a bad joke.

I should seriously learn English...

[orca888]

But maybe you might rape HIM one day?

Sorry, it was a bad joke.

I should seriously learn English...

Nah - it won't happen cos I care too much for him...hahah

Unless it's role play - I heard that Scorpios are very kinky in bed

Your English is fine mon cher Phil

[Phil]

Nah - it won't happen cos I care too much for him...hahah

Unless it's role play - I heard that Scorpios are very kinky in bed

Your English is fine mon cher Phil

You are too kind, thanks!

Scorpios? Sometimes...

Sagittarius, really often!

[orca888]

You are too kind, thanks!

Scorpios? Sometimes...

Sagittarius, really often!

Nice - I am so looking forward to that

Just kidding...

Tauruses have been said to be very sensuous in bed too...hahah

[Phil]

Nice - I am so looking forward to that

Just kidding...

Tauruses have been said to be very sensuous in bed too...hahah

I heard that about Tauruses...

Just accumulate energy for the time being, I am sure that you will soon be able to use it... :twisted:

Going to bed now , in MY home

[delon]

Like u know. U often get him gifts, or u try to be there as much as possible for him, so that u.. know ur doing something for him, and doing something to contribute to his life to make it easier/nicer for him.

I used to do that.. it felt like a really ncie thing even though i regretted it anyways.

Even though I no longer harbour hopes of entering in2 a rs with him bcos of incompatibility issues, we still maintain a purely platonic rs. As a good fren, I still go all out 2 help n look out 4 him whenever he needs it with no expectation of reciprocation.

But despite all dat, wat happened recently made me regret the things I did 4 him. The feeling sucks so much n I am still feeling sore over it. In such cases, I guess it's best 2 maintain a distance since our gestures r not really appreciated.

[Exynos]

Yes, woe is anyone who tries to do harm to my boy However, I know that I have the tendency to over-protect and I must learn to give him his own space

yep.. own space. better give him that, hahaha. my crush told his friends I was behaving like his little dog because I was around him so often, hmm..

Even though I no longer harbour hopes of entering in2 a rs with him bcos of incompatibility issues, we still maintain a purely platonic rs. As a good fren, I still go all out 2 help n look out 4 him whenever he needs it with no expectation of reciprocation. But despite all dat, wat happened recently made me regret the things I did 4 him. The feeling sucks so much n I am still feeling sore over it. In such cases, I guess it's best 2 maintain a distance since our gestures r not really appreciated.

Because, if like me then, u did it because u wanted his "approval", then u will still regret it in the end if he doesn't show any reciprocation. Either give unconditionally, or draw a line somewhere for urself.

[delon]

No, I wasn't seeking his approval or expecting the same treatment from him, so yes I will draw the line instead. I don't wan 2 b a pesky nuisance.

[orca888]

I heard that about Tauruses... Just accumulate energy for the time being, I am sure that you will soon be able to use it... :twisted: Going to bed now , in MY home

LOL - it's not a myth

Hopefully I don't explode first from the accumulation...hahah

Good night mon cher Phil

[orca888]

yep.. own space. better give him that, hahaha. my crush told his friends I was behaving like his little dog because I was around him so often, hmm..

Hmm...hopefully he doesn't think that of me...hahah

Yes, I admit I need to take a step back else I risk smothering him...trying but it's so hard

[Guest Guest]

Uncle orca888, can u share abit of ur previous 18 yrs relationship?

[orca888]

Uncle orca888, can u share abit of ur previous 18 yrs relationship?

What do you wanna know? hahah

[spiffy729]

A r/s for 18 years is sick.

Sick as in, in a great way.

That's seriously like being in a relationship for almost as long as I've been breathing in air lol.

[orca888]

A r/s for 18 years is sick.

Sick as in, in a great way.

That's seriously like being in a relationship for almost as long as I've been breathing in air lol.

It was great while it lasted...hahah

We had lots of good times as well as some pretty rough moments...

Oh well, maybe it's fate bah - if we didn't break up, I wouldn't have met my boy...

One door closes, another opens - that's life I guess...

[delon]

It was great while it lasted...hahah

We had lots of good times as well as some pretty rough moments...

Oh well, maybe it's fate bah - if we didn't break up, I wouldn't have met my boy...

One door closes, another opens - that's life I guess...

It's kind of sad dat an 18 yr rs has 2 end. If I'm ur ex, I would b disappointed dat the 18 yrs does not seem comparable 2 ur few months rs. I know it's not good to dwell on the past n it's healthy to look 4ward, but it's still kind of depressing 2 see an ex moving on so quickly. It's 18 yrs, mind u, n almost a lifetime 4 some. I'm just saying.

[Phil]

LOL - it's not a myth

Hopefully I don't explode first from the accumulation...hahah

Good night mon cher Phil

The night was good, thanks.

Please use the emergency handle before exploding

And 18 years must be the $!^*| record here, isn't it?

[Phil]

Strange, I typed "$!^*| record" and look what happened!

[Phil]

Strange, I typed "$!^*| record" and look what happened!

Once again!

Is there some kind of internal software in BW which forbids to type some words?

It was not a dirty word!

Well, let's write "maximum record"...