Discussion & Stories Of Massage / Money Boys (Compiled)

[snowball]

Bill, by making such " mistake " won't really make you no smart guy, just that you can't resist temptation of fresh " meat ".

sometimes such disappointment can't avoid, even if you go to those decent one, not all can provide good massage too.

we can't expect much from those who show pics esp those " yummy candy ".

don't feel bad, it just another lesson for life, cheers

[Guest Guest]

Upon our meeting I was totally disappointed. My dream clean cut, cute young guy had massive tattoos on his front and back (not shown in the photos on the website), he was not that cute, not well groomed and while he certainly had a nice body it was nothing like the photo on the websites... I don’t have an issue with tattoos but that was not ‘what was advertised’... His total lack of English and my lack of Mandarin was a major stumbling block, he never took his eyes off the TV or his handphone, and he had no massage skills... Roughly 40 minutes after I arrived I was leaving... The only thing he did really well was count the money which was almost double what I have paid in the past for so much more!

Was it possible for you to ask for a change to another masseur? I think his lack of interest in massaging was probably due to the fact that he is not gay?

[skater]

Well..it looks like you are victimised. But honestly, you are really looking for paid sex, a cute young fit guy in exchange for money, you in a way are victimising this guys, I guessed without money, nobody would even have sex you...not to say a cute fit young boy.

I really pity these guys more...coz I believe if they have money..they wouldnt resort to selling their body.

Who is the real victim here?

[snowball]

Who is the real victim here?

is there a victim here? one side just want easy money,

the other side prepare to pay & buy, anyone force them?

just too bad, the "seller" not the buyer type, that's all about it.

[Guest Guest]

is there a victim here? one side just want easy money,

the other side prepare to pay & buy, anyone force them?

just too bad, the "seller" not the buyer type, that's all about it.

Yeah, agree, dont think there is a victim. For whatever reason, someone is willing to provide a service, someone else wants to purchase the service. The point is that the goods were misrepresented.

[Guest new_guest]

is there a victim here? one side just want easy money,

the other side prepare to pay & buy, anyone force them?

just too bad, the "seller" not the buyer type, that's all about it.

well the problem is the good is not what u wanted...

[Guest guest]

despise Bill's warning, i am sure there are others who can't resist the "meat" temptation. Otherwise, why are all these websites or other escort agencies still doing well? Face it, most of us are sucker for nice bods, big dxxk and extras... When we visit a good masseurs, we expect extras..no extras we don't go anymore... Some of us expect good massage plus good extras somemore... So some masseurs being taken advantage by us. Likewise, some nasty "masseurs' will take advantage of the customers too...

Thanks Bill for sharing. Let just take it a a reminder to ourselves. If we want xxx visit these places at your own risk ( just don't put your hopes high..). If we wanted a good massage, just visit those trust worthy ones ( mind u some of those listed on homebased are also bian ja bian ja one so you need to find out who suits you). If you found a few good ones, just stick to them lor...and once a while try new ones..and compare notes ie. I also agreed that keep going to the same masseur is quite stale...

[orochi98]

Haiz... So sad to say that there are fewer people with good massage skills...well not to only say about Chinaboys but there are other foreign races that are also fakes and in it for money. I think I can do better a massage than all of them combined. Please leave the massage to us professionals and stay away from money massage boys.

[Guest guest]

we cant different between therapist and social escort...sometime

[yihao69]

http://mbchecker.blogspot.com/

http://chinaplayer.blogspot.com/

[chubaholic]

http://www.j1069.net/index-sz.php

Wow, so there is a market for moneybears after all.

[GachiMuchi]

The followings are photoshopped images from this http://www.j1069.net/index-sz.php?up=32

No. 507, 502, 395, 393, 390, 368, 361, 362, 363, 290, 295, 238, 099

[Sidney]

I am probably opening myself up to a lot of criticisms and ‘I told you so’s’ but figure I will share this anyway...

Thanks for sharing - I, for one, will learn from your experience. I wish I knew where I could find someone attractive and reliable.

[Guest Suspecious]

The last few days, I got a message from a PRC guy via my online portal who says he just arrived in Singapore and wanted to make friends here. I replied him and we started chatting by sending each other messages. He later asked me for my contact and I gave him my other no.

Background : (Info provided by him)

* Young Chinese 25/172/63 just arrived in Sg not too long

* Staying for 1 month till 27 Feb 2010.

* Live in Cheap lodging ($30/day) sharing with others in one of those illegal dorm/hostel.

As I chatted further, I smell something fishy. He kept asking me to go to his Chinatown place.

Suspicion :

1. On holiday for 1 month but does not have any relatives in Singapore. (I suspect that he is one of those MB)

2. Keep asking me to go the the 'cheap $30' place when I say he can come over to my place. (I suspect he is working there in Chinatown as he keep wanting me to go over.)

3. When asked if he he live near the Chinatown MRT, he say yes. But when I ask him to take the train to my place, he says he don't know how to?

Although no harm done, I am posting this to alert fellow BW members to be more cautious.

I will continue to post if anything develops.

[cadlad]

just curious, what exactly are you suspicious or wary about?

maybe he just feels safer if you go to his place instead of him going to yours.

knowing that his place of lodging is near chinatown mrt does not automatically mean he will know how to take mrt. it may seem easy to us but as a tourist it may look confusing to him, or he's just lazy to find out how to.

what's MB?

[oralb]

there are always 2 side of a coin.

Here're the good side

Suspicion :

1. On holiday for 1 month but does not have any relatives in Singapore. (I suspect that he is one of those MB)

- Well maybe he needed a break, he is looking for job opportunity here. Maybe he is taking Singapore as a base to travel to other countries around us. We have Singaporeans traveling to Europe for more than a month, yet no one sees them as being a MB there. (MB = Money Boy)

2. Keep asking me to go the the 'cheap $30' place when I say he can come over to my place. (I suspect he is working there in Chinatown as he keep wanting me to go over.)

- He is a foreigner here, he could be afraid. He could really dont know how to come. He could be suspicion of you as well.

3. When asked if he he live near the Chinatown MRT, he say yes. But when I ask him to take the train to my place, he says he don't know how to?

- Like cadlad said, maybe he doesnt know how to (or lazy to learn) for a non-english speaking person, our train stations' name can be intimating

Here're the bad side

1. He is a MB, he is here to milk Singaporeans for his CNY Ang Bow

2. He wants you to be his place so he can gather his other roommates to gang rape you or to extort money from you or privately film the sexual act to sell online

3. See 2.

The choose is your's.

[Guest guest]

SUspecious, isn't it obvious that he is a money Boy!!! and looking for some extra cash??? I am sure his other friends or the singapore" pimps" have given him some advices... You have read in other threads some spas are already engaged these boys to service the local clients plus some hanging around chinatown to look for extra cash from the "naivce" singaporean guys... using their good looks or bodies..etc You might be his potential "fish". BTW, what are you looking for when hooking up with him????kekekeke...some free xxxx? hahaha..

[cock brand]

The only way to find out is to meet up instead of guessing.

Meet at a busy place - shopping mall, food court or some fast food joint - never at his place!!!

If you sense anything not right, just say thank you goodbye and leave.

Nothing much to lose except perhaps that cup of coffee for him.

Go with a friend if afraid.

If it turn out that he is really MB and you kinda like him, don't agree to go back to his place or your place!

Agree on the price and go to a hotel of your choice.

[Guest Smart boy]

Never asked him to go to your place too. Frankly, you can both come out simply to test water for clearer picture. As a singaporean you have nothing to lose because this is your land and there is nothing he could do to you.

[Guest MB are humans too.]

The last few days, I got a message from a PRC guy via my online portal who says he just arrived in Singapore and wanted to make friends here. I replied him and we started chatting by sending each other messages. He later asked me for my contact and I gave him my other no.

Background : (Info provided by him)

* Young Chinese 25/172/63 just arrived in Sg not too long

* Staying for 1 month till 27 Feb 2010.

* Live in Cheap lodging ($30/day) sharing with others in one of those illegal dorm/hostel.

As I chatted further, I smell something fishy. He kept asking me to go to his Chinatown place.

Suspicion :

1. On holiday for 1 month but does not have any relatives in Singapore. (I suspect that he is one of those MB)

2. Keep asking me to go the the 'cheap $30' place when I say he can come over to my place. (I suspect he is working there in Chinatown as he keep wanting me to go over.)

3. When asked if he he live near the Chinatown MRT, he say yes. But when I ask him to take the train to my place, he says he don't know how to?

Although no harm done, I am posting this to alert fellow BW members to be more cautious.

I will continue to post if anything develops.

Money boys are all over china town, I for one knows that the new management of Y club, sets them up in their premises,

Y club have many partitioned rooms that they rent out to China PRC young men to rent by the day or month for them to ply their trade on the streets or online ,'

They are very persistent, just put yourself in their shoes and imagined you are a poor , lowly educated prc with no skills that can be exchanged for money and you need to eat and your family abandoned you and you can't rely on any one else except what your are born with and your youthful looks, and it will all make sense and everything will fall into place.

money boys need to eat too,

[snowball]

笑贫不笑娼, 已是多数现代人的心态, 是可悲或可喜?

[Guest Order]

i read quite a few posts about those china boys offering sex so share my adventure.

regulars of irc will know that chinese, indonesian, thai massage boys are on the channel advertising their services. either they in singapore on social pass or have agents. the chinese boys are priced from $100 to $150 depending on time of the day and depending on how desperate you/they are. go via agent you can pay up to $250. the boys usually stay at those cheap chinatown hotels or rent rooms at people's park complex. they will bring you to their room. i prefer to bring them to hotel81 nearby at my own expense. cleaner as you don't know how many guys they fxxked on that bed. also for security reason, i don't want to go into their place.

was told some boys are straight, here for easy money. these will only top you. some gay boys too and this group usually flex. ask them before the deal what will they do for you and how long is the session.

another place the china boys hang out is outside mcdonald lucky chinatown or ck further down. you eye contact them and they will come to approach you.

my adventure, i was bored and chatted online with a boy on irc. checked his photo - looks good but i believe it is probably photo-shopped. claim he was a soldier before. he is flex. agreed that he will fxxk and be fxxk too. asked and bargain for price - settled. place - he has but i told him i will book hotel81 chinatown. we will meet at lucky chinatown macdonald first. exchanged numbers.

at appointed time, i called him as there wasn't a guy similar in sight. he was late. saw him, not as muscular but 70% alike. i choose to proceed.

in the hotel81, i booked and called for him to join me. i already bath, he took a bath too. i semi naked in bed. he came out wrapped in towel, no 6 pack as in the picture. i took off my towel. he took off towel too. i checked his tool. 6 inch.

he went on me and massaged me nude. don't expect too much skill. small talk in mandarin. 10 minutes later he asked me to turn over and was doing sensuous lick on my nipples and making me moan. nothing to be shy. he bj me, licked my ass and was all over me. i had condom pack on table. he took it and put on and lube. inserted and fxxked. nothing fanciful. i also condom and fxxked him. i cummed but he did not. as it was still early, we hugged and we had a short nap.

paid him and tipped him when time was out. as my title said, this is fast food. but very very expensive one.

caution: i had my wallet and valuables locked in my bag which i secured in the cupboard in the hotel room. safe sex is a must as these are pro. you don't know how many they have served.

be prepared: the boys and agents will pass your handphone to their friends who come after them and when new boys arrive.

[fab]

u r quite lucky.

i heard many dont kiss, rim, blow or even fxxk. Just hand job.

[Guest Guest]

i read quite a few posts about those china boys offering sex so share my adventure.

regulars of irc will know that chinese, indonesian, thai massage boys are on the channel advertising their services. either they in singapore on social pass or have agents. the chinese boys are priced from $100 to $150 depending on time of the day and depending on how desperate you/they are. go via agent you can pay up to $250. the boys usually stay at those cheap chinatown hotels or rent rooms at people's park complex. they will bring you to their room. i prefer to bring them to hotel81 nearby at my own expense. cleaner as you don't know how many guys they fxxked on that bed. also for security reason, i don't want to go into their place.

was told some boys are straight, here for easy money. these will only top you. some gay boys too and this group usually flex. ask them before the deal what will they do for you and how long is the session.

another place the china boys hang out is outside mcdonald lucky chinatown or ck further down. you eye contact them and they will come to approach you.

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he went on me and massaged me nude. don't expect too much skill. small talk in mandarin. 10 minutes later he asked me to turn over and was doing sensuous lick on my nipples and making me moan. nothing to be shy. he bj me, licked my ass and was all over me. i had condom pack on table. he took it and put on and lube. inserted and fxxked. nothing fanciful. i also condom and fxxked him. i cummed but he did not. as it was still early, we hugged and we had a short nap.

paid him and tipped him when time was out. as my title said, this is fast food. but very very expensive one.

caution: i had my wallet and valuables locked in my bag which i secured in the cupboard in the hotel room. safe sex is a must as these are pro. you don't know how many they have served.

be prepared: the boys and agents will pass your handphone to their friends who come after them and when new boys arrive.

I wrote long ago, one of those posts you read :twisted: . Not all are pros. Some are only temp until they find a job here. Most are str8 and they only fxxk. I pass by there often and I check until I find the not pros one I like then I ask. I don't know how to use internet well to find them. I prefer to see what I like first then book them. Can also bargain cheaper.

I used their rented room. Haha you are right many are fxxked in their beds including me. Sometimes even in middle of fxxking me, another customer come in and fxxk in the other bed. We too old birds to be shy sometimes even we watch each other like orgy. Most of the customers are the uncles you see at Chinatown.

I never give my phone number because they always want to call me and ask me to pao them. They think we Singaporeans are rich.

[Guest cheaper]

Not all are pros. Some are only temp until they find a job here. Most are str8 and they only fxxk. I pass by there often and I check until I find the not pros one I like then I ask. I don't know how to use internet well to find them. I prefer to see what I like first then book them. Can also bargain cheaper.

face to face bargain cheaper - how much you pay ?

[Guest guest]

To be honest, paid sex and frequent sauna to have sex are equally dangerous. Most who have sex in sauna also have multiple partners. The only diff is most of those guys are not into the look department wherelse the paid sex, atleast, got some standard. Likewise those so called regular fxxkbuddies. All have to be careful because you are not the nos. 1 nor nos. 50..etc Just play safe.

[Guest another guest]

To be honest, paid sex and frequent sauna to have sex are equally dangerous. Most who have sex in sauna also have multiple partners. The only diff is most of those guys are not into the look department wherelse the paid sex, atleast, got some standard. Likewise those so called regular fxxkbuddies. All have to be careful because you are not the nos. 1 nor nos. 50..etc Just play safe.

You are so right!

This idea that paid sex equal higher risk of getting aids and all is NOT true. Frequent sex at saunas is just as much of a risk if not more. I have even heard horror stories where HIV positive guys visit sauna regularly and join in wild group sex with multiple partners. At least with paid sex, one is more careful and NOT to be too carried away in lust.

So funny but it's true... at least with paid sex, the partners are better looking!!!

[Guest Am I rite?]

You are so right!

This idea that paid sex equal higher risk of getting aids and all is NOT true. Frequent sex at saunas is just as much of a risk if not more. I have even heard horror stories where HIV positive guys visit sauna regularly and join in wild group sex with multiple partners. At least with paid sex, one is more careful and NOT to be too carried away in lust.

So funny but it's true... at least with paid sex, the partners are better looking!!!

Only the desparate and ugly go for paid sex generally! That's the only way to get to fxxk with good lookers!! If they dont pay, they get only people of the same quality.

[Guest guest]

The main reason for paying sex, you pay them to leave after sex...

Just like eating in a restaurant, you eat, then you pay and then you leave... no need to bother about doing the dishes!

So those that look for love when paying for sex is silly but what is worse are those who unknowingly pay in more ways than one and thought it was LOVE... what a fool.

Oh yes, the best and the most popular sex worker is not neccessary good looking, by the way!

[Guest guest]

Only the desparate and ugly go for paid sex generally! That's the only way to get to fxxk with good lookers!! If they dont pay, they get only people of the same quality.

No lah, that assumption is totally not accurate.

I used to know one of my local Chinese friend here, who used to work at a gay social escort/giggolo.

He is tall lean muscular and have this model appeal.

But whatever reason he chosed to be one, I don't want to ask because thats very personnal.

I also encountered those China massuers who hangs around at the Lucky Chinatown Macs.

I was so tired after a visit to sauna one night so I decided to eat something at Macs before I went home.

This pretty young Chinese chap, who looked very scared, decided to approached me and asked me if I have any idea which gym in Singapore in reasonably priced and good, as he was only here for 2 weeks.

As we chatted he admitted he was working as a massuer here. Then one of his friend joined us.

We chatted for quite awhile before I went home.

I got to learn their lives here and their side of their stories and their encounters with clients here.

Its like 30% of them are gay, the rest are straight.

From what I learned from my friend and the China boys, not all clients are ugly, old or fat that they resort to paid sex.

There are clients are as young as 18. Some still in the uni, or in the army.

Quite a handful of their clients are closetted gays or bisexual, especially those who who high official positions like CEOs, established lawyers, teachers, white-collar workers, judges, military officers, married men etc, and are pretty pleasant looking. But is just that their position and status, does not allow them to open themselves up.

There are also some who are good looking and muscular, but they paid these boys for sex, because, using money to make someone do what they want, gives them a sense of power and control.

Sometimes they are humiliated and treated quite badly.

So its not true that ugly people seek for paid sex from those China boys.

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[Guest Dont have to explain]

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We chatted for quite awhile before I went home.

I got to learn their lives here and their side of their stories and their encounters with clients here.

Its like 30% of them are gay, the rest are straight.

From what I learned from my friend and the China boys, not all clients are ugly, old or fat that they resort to paid sex.

There are clients are as young as 18. Some still in the uni, or in the army.

Quite a handful of their clients are closetted gays or bisexual, especially those who who high official positions like CEOs, established lawyers, teachers, white-collar workers, judges, military officers, married men etc, and are pretty pleasant looking. But is just that their position and status, does not allow them to open themselves up.

There are also some who are good looking and muscular, but they paid these boys for sex, because, using money to make someone do what they want, ................................

So its not true that ugly people seek for paid sex from those China boys.

You are so kind to explain to the Ti Ti that commented on the OLD and UGLY ..... I think everyone will grow old and become old. Old is a terrible words for someone become they are young and healthy now.

No matter how young, strong and handsome now .......... wait till 20yrs later, maybe and I said maybe, u will think back these words, Ugly ...... or old or anything other mean words you use today. I think we just have to be considerate. Some like to buy services, there are service providers, that's all. Although I am not paying for sex now, but I can understand why some people need to pay for sex like what explained above.

[Guest sushibomb]

No lah, that assumption is totally not accurate.

I used to know one of my local Chinese friend here, who used to work at a gay social escort/giggolo.

He is tall lean muscular and have this model appeal.

But whatever reason he chosed to be one, I don't want to ask because thats very personnal.

I also encountered those China massuers who hangs around at the Lucky Chinatown Macs.

I was so tired after a visit to sauna one night so I decided to eat something at Macs before I went home.

This pretty young Chinese chap, who looked very scared, decided to approached me and asked me if I have any idea which gym in Singapore in reasonably priced and good, as he was only here for 2 weeks.

As we chatted he admitted he was working as a massuer here. Then one of his friend joined us.

We chatted for quite awhile before I went home.

I got to learn their lives here and their side of their stories and their encounters with clients here.

Its like 30% of them are gay, the rest are straight.

From what I learned from my friend and the China boys, not all clients are ugly, old or fat that they resort to paid sex.

There are clients are as young as 18. Some still in the uni, or in the army.

Quite a handful of their clients are closetted gays or bisexual, especially those who who high official positions like CEOs, established lawyers, teachers, white-collar workers, judges, military officers, married men etc, and are pretty pleasant looking. But is just that their position and status, does not allow them to open themselves up.

There are also some who are good looking and muscular, but they paid these boys for sex, because, using money to make someone do what they want, gives them a sense of power and control.

Sometimes they are humiliated and treated quite badly.

So its not true that ugly people seek for paid sex from those China boys.

So you believe whatever the boys said, and then bought the boy after all?

[Guest guest]

So you believe whatever the boys said, and then bought the boy after all?

Sir, can you please read carefully before you think I bought the boy? Which part did I said I paid him for sex?

I am already so tired after my session in sauna , so do you think I will have any more sexual urges?

Althought I don't believe in paying for sex, I don't condemn or look down at others how they chose to live their lives.

I am just sharing what they told me. Up to you to believe or not.

Maybe you should go there and chat with them, and find out for yourself. Then you decide for yourself, whether you want to believe them or not.

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[Guest sushibomb]

Sir, can you please read carefully before you think I bought the boy? Which part did I said I paid him for sex?

I am already so tired after my session in sauna , so do you think I will have any more sexual urges?

Althought I don't believe in paying for sex, I don't condemn or look down at others how they chose to live their lives.

I am just sharing what they told me. Up to you to believe or not.

Maybe you should go there and chat with them, and find out for yourself. Then you decide for yourself, whether you want to believe them or not.

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You don't have to condemn or look down the providers when you buy services from them, it's just a deal.

[Guest picture]

he came out wrapped in towel, no 6 pack as in the picture. i took off my towel. he took off towel too. i checked his tool. 6 inch.

he went on me and massaged me nude. don't expect too much skill.

Most of the six-pack you see in the pictures are photo tricks. Some of the photos, the boy's head is cut&paste on a hunk's bod.

[simontang]

why don't wanna find local boys? cheaper i tink?

[Guest Guest]

why don't wanna find local boys? cheaper i tink?

you are wrong. some of them think that they're moulded from 999 pure gold, their services include: pay to watch him masturbate (cannot touch) ... seow !

[Guest guest]

Yes, if possible don't go for local guys. I have tried at least 5 times engaging local guys massage/xxx services. 1 out of 5 good only. The one tat is good is around 30+ and he told him demand for his type is low that's y his agent is not keen on him. So he compensate by doing more things to satisfy customers i.e bj, kissing, hugging...bottoming..etc The other 4 are ard 25+ n unfortunately, "think they are so goodlooking type" i.e cannot do this cannot do that..etc Also so different from the agreement I had with the agent. For example, agent promised they can bottomed but after the lousy massage, they said they cannot bottom. So what can you do??? Initially I tot my mistake but after 4 tries, I decided enough is enough. Even complain to agent no used (they will say thanks for feedback - what the fxxk). . My only regret is i should have stopped there and then and call up to complain. But we are nice people try not to break their rice bowl. Subsequently, I tried another agency and go for Thai guys. So much better and cheaper.

After 1 mth later, I saw two of the howlian guys in orchard road together. Both quick pretended didn't see me and turnaround walk another direction. BTW, both angmo slang ka liao. Maybe more for angmo customers.

[Guest Guest]

another place the china boys hang out is outside mcdonald lucky chinatown or ck further down. you eye contact them and they will come to approach you.

Where have all the China Boys gone? I passed by CK and Mac several times on Sunday. Cannot find anyone. Went sauna instead.

[Guest guest 2]

Ths place has been monitored and watched very closely by the police patrols and they do come over to check your ID.

Was there last subday night with a friend at Macs after our sauna visit. We noticed within 2 hours sitting there, the police patrol came 3 times to check the place. They even check your ID randomly, even me and my friend, we were checked.

That place is getting abit rowdy. Got fights. Got a few weirdos - i think they are abit mentally unstable - who comes and eat your food while you are still eating. Got alot of Pinoy and Chinese girls hanging around with their rowdy clients.

Place getting abit unsafe so police needs to patrol.

Thats why the China boys are hiding away from the scene.

[Guest Guest]

Due to the spot checks, they now walk around the People Park Complex and overhead bridge. They also the mrt gantry area. They will look into your eyes for any sign of interest. A smile or wink will make me follow you to somewhere quiet and the bargain will start.

[Guest Guest]

I was at chinatown 4pm on Sunday 6 mar and purposely go macdonald lucky chinatown to sit. I think my gaydar not strong but for the 1 hour I was there, I cannot spot any chinaboy.

[fab]

I was at chinatown 4pm on Sunday 6 mar and purposely go macdonald lucky chinatown to sit. I think my gaydar not strong but for the 1 hour I was there, I cannot spot any chinaboy.

what has gaydar got to do with chinaboys when they are mostly, if not 100%, straight?

Should be your moneyboydar not strong.

[Straw]

what has gaydar got to do with chinaboys when they are mostly, if not 100%, straight?

Should be your moneyboydar not strong.

LOL @ this reply!! :clap:

[fab]

LOL @ this reply!! :clap:

[Guest hunk who wants a hunk]

I pity all these poor lonely old men who have to prey on foreigners who only want their $$$.

Go to china town and you can see an army of them swarming everywhere.

[Eddy]

You are so right!

This idea that paid sex equal higher risk of getting aids and all is NOT true. Frequent sex at saunas is just as much of a risk if not more. I have even heard horror stories where HIV positive guys visit sauna regularly and join in wild group sex with multiple partners. At least with paid sex, one is more careful and NOT to be too carried away in lust.

So funny but it's true... at least with paid sex, the partners are better looking!!!

Actually i'd rather pay for the facility (Spa/Sauna) than to pay for the HIV or other STD (untested massage boys).

Also, i wonder how many are here on student visas and are in the sex trade illegally. Sure will not go get tested.

[Guest huh]

Actually i'd rather pay for the facility (Spa/Sauna) than to pay for the HIV or other STD (untested massage boys).

Also, i wonder how many are here on student visas and are in the sex trade illegally. Sure will not go get tested.

Huh? Don't get the logic here. You can get all kinds of stuff from spas and saunas too...

[fab]

A word of fairness for those money boys.

Most of them are more safety conscious than gays as they know that they are exposed to higher risk being in this profession.

[Guest keson]

why don't wanna find local boys? cheaper i tink?