City Harvest Church Discussion - Kong Hee & Sun Ho (Compiled)

[Guest Judge]

I think you guys need to stop defaming Kong Hee and Sun Ho. Until the verdict is out, they are innocent.

[Guest Guest 2]

I think you guys need to stop defaming Kong Hee and Sun Ho. Until the verdict is out, they are innocent.

Sun Ho is the best!

[Guest Guest X]

I think you guys need to stop defaming Kong Hee and Sun Ho. Until the verdict is out, they are innocent.

 

Kong Hee is the best!

[Guest Guest]

money is the best of the best, else why need the 10% income for, why need donations?

if you don't give, see what true color they give, praised the money.

[Guest Guest]

money is the best of the best, else why need the 10% income for, why need donations?

if you don't give, see what true color they give, praised the money.

We know it's you, snowball. Why aren't you posting using your account? Haha

[Guest Guest]

Will slutty pastor Sun Ho be punished with the Pear of Anguish??

 

[Crumpler]

The eight individuals being removed may make their case — or “representations” — to the COC by May 13. 

If the COC succeeds in removing 

them, they could be barred from resuming their executive memberships 

in the church for two years or more. 

The public may also submit representations for governing board members Kong, Lam and Tan Ye Peng, 

as well as key oicer Teo, Executive 

Director of the church’s administration division. 

 

 

This is because if the COC succeeds in removing them, they will be 

barred from taking up similar positions in any charity here in future. 

Those who wish to make representations are to do so by post or email to 

the Commissioner by May 13 and sign 

of with their full name, identity card 

number and contact details.

Kong noted that the deadline was 

“a mere two days” before the criminal 

trial began, and would seek clariication from the COC on it.

COC Low Puk Yeong reiterated 

that “there is due process in the removal proceedings”. 

He said: “A removal order may 

only be made with the consent of the 

 

 

Attorney-General. In the event of a removal and if the individuals are dissatisied with the COC’s decision, they 

can appeal to the High Court.”

Mr Low also stressed that his actions are “independent and separate” 

from criminal proceedings. 

 

 

Removed individuals may continue religious duties, such as preaching 

in the church, “which are separate 

from the holding of any governance 

or management positions in the charity”, he added.

City Harvest Church said in a 

statement last night that pastors Kong 

and Tan would continue their pastoral duties.

 

 

Executive pastor and management board chairman Aries Zulkarnain called it a “very challenging” 

time for the church leaders, members 

and their families, and asked for the 

church to stay united. 

Last July, four new board members 

were voted in during City Harvest’s 

annual general meeting.

The criminal trial of the six City 

Harvest Church executive members 

starts on May 15.

 

 

The COC and the Commercial Affairs Department began investigating 

City Harvest Church in 2010. 

The COC’s inquiry found inancial 

irregularities in the church amounting to at least S$23 million. The money 

was meant to go to the building fund 

but was allegedly used to fund Ms Ho’s 

secular music career. 

The inquiry also found a “concerted efort to conceal the movement of 

funds from its stakeholders”.

[zwei]

I strongly believe that if you believe in god why do you need to go to a religious place...

Can't someone pray and trust from deep within?

[Guest Guest]

何耀珊是心灵天后，华人之光!

主会保佑Sun, 让她重新荣登舞台，继续发光发亮!

Sun, 加油!

[Guest Guest]

也祝愿主保佑康希牧师与Sun，让他俩早日摆脱目前的困境。

[Guest 哈利]

也祝愿主保佑康希牧师与Sun，让他俩早日摆脱目前的困境。

以上帝的名義騙人, 這場危機是主所派來給他的. 

愿主保佑,此後天下太平, 哈利路亞

[Guest Guest]

牠们都是禽兽，跟魔鬼一样，毒害人心！

[Guest snowball]

多数世人愚昧顽固, 不理会看好自己内心的教堂, 反而到处乱跑乱撞, 可笑。

[Guest Guest]

To zwei

That's becoz in the bible god Oso encouraged the believers to congregate as one body to fellowship n worship him that's y xtians n Catholics go church.

No doubt anywhere still can pray n worship n trust him lo.

[Guest Guest]

何耀珊有许多脍炙人口的歌曲，例如漂洋过海，孤单旅行，881寂寞，拥抱等。

她温暖的歌声能照亮最黑暗的心房!

[Guest 路亞]

何耀珊有许多脍炙人口的歌曲，例如漂洋过海，孤单旅行，881寂寞，拥抱等。

她温暖的歌声能照亮最黑暗的心房!

但照不亮自己和丈夫最黑暗的心, 多麼可悲可笑

[Guest Guest]

何耀珊有许多脍炙人口的歌曲，例如漂洋过海，孤单旅行，881寂寞，拥抱等。

她温暖的歌声能照亮最黑暗的心房!

 

拥有温暖的歌声和暗地里拥有黑暗的心不一样！

 

[Guest Guest]

百分百像芽龙妓女， 如切流莺， 牛车水贱女人

[Guest Guest]

何耀珊是心灵天后，华人之光!

主会保佑Sun, 让她重新荣登舞台，继续发光发亮!

Sun, 加油!

 

u kidding me?? 华人之光 my ass

[Guest Guest]

无可否认，何耀珊有穿透人心的温暖歌声，她是华人之光，心灵天后。

[Guest Guest]

无可否认，何耀珊有穿透人心的温暖歌声，她是华人之光，心灵天后。

 

stop kidding yourself pls.

 

she's a nobody in taiwan and US, and sporeans dun support her. that is why her hubby has to use church funds to bring her up to the charts. pity the brainwashed church members!

[Guest snowball]

百变天后梅艳芳的形象千变万化, 但为什么又会带给人们前卫华丽的感觉呢?

这证明了有些事情是勉强不来的。

何耀珊早期时的歌曲的确不错, 有好几首我也认同, 但后来呢?

后期的事业发展, 她是否还有真正能让你感动的歌吗?

[Guest Guest]

她后期也有温暖人心的歌曲，例如

我忘了笑

不凋零的花

信心旅行 (与林俊杰合唱)

首首动听，首首让你感受到世间的温情，鼓励你勇敢面对人生起起落落，Sun的确是近代最有影响力的疗伤歌手。

[gz69a]

I strongly believe that if you believe in god why do you need to go to a religious place...

Can't someone pray and trust from deep within?

 

I agree too even though I am with a mainstream religion.  God is in you and if you believe, you talk to God inside you.  Do no harm to others.  Do good if you can.  Live in peace and make the world a better place.  In essence, that is what God wants of us.  The rest are centuries old customs, traditions, supersittions, man-made rules etc.  Religion can be very complicated if one goes in-depth.  The simplistic way is "I Believe"

[loveoldman]

百分百像芽龙妓女， 如切流莺， 牛车水贱女人

 

this is too funny, haha

[Guest Guest]

To zwei

The bible Oso toks abt edifying each other encouraging each other thr fellowship n worship together as a congregation

Even in the Old Testament the believers congregate together to pray worship sing songs make music to build one another up in the body of Christ

Other than that in your own personal time u can still worship n pray to him alone as he is omnipresent .. Hope that answers your query.

Initially when sun ho started as a mandarin singer some of her songs were touching but later on I find her songs very secular n started to question abt her direction no doubt mayb she wanted to reach the non believers... Hopefully she n those involved will start to rebuild their lives after this saga n really serve god with a pure unadulterated heart lo. Amen

[Guest Guest]

祝康希牧师与Sun何耀珊早日摆脱困境，重新迎接上帝的恩赐。God bless.

[Guest stbrianud]

I strongly believe that if you believe in god why do you need to go to a religious place...

Can't someone pray and trust from deep within?

 

no one seems to understand this.. it's a personal connection with God. Not something you have to justify by going to church/temple. It's something that comes from within and from your heart. If you wanna go then well go. But if not don't look down on others for not wanting to go... But then again there's no point saying all this because "truly" religious people will just say "ok yeah i accept your view.." but in their hearts they will be like "i pray that he will change..." I just think this is way too hypocritical.

[curious_boi]

EVERY DOLLAR IS BACK UP BY RESERVE IN NATIONAL TREASURY, THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT FAITH IS THE CURRENCY IN HEAVEN. OUR FAITH PROCLAIMATION HAS TO BE BACKED UP BY OUR GIVING, OTHERWISE OUR PRAISES ARE EMPTY -- Millionaire Pastor Kong Hee

[zwei]

Just a thought heh... I shall speak no further as I'm atheist

[curious_boi]

"What we give every week is the measure of the value that you place on your Lord and your saviour Jesus Christ,”.“We can lift up our hands to worship god, but if the tithes are still in our pockets, then due tribute has not been given. -  Millionaire Pastor Kong Hee

[sportsboysg]

EVERY DOLLAR IS BACK UP BY RESERVE IN NATIONAL TREASURY, THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT FAITH IS THE CURRENCY IN HEAVEN. OUR FAITH PROCLAIMATION HAS TO BE BACKED UP BY OUR GIVING, OTHERWISE OUR PRAISES ARE EMPTY -- Millionaire Pastor Kong Hee

if that is true, you need not give it to the church, but you can give it to other christian welfare organisations or even welfare organisations in general.

and obviously him and his staff, who draws a fat pay check from the church, ask people to buy Sun Ho CDs, sit in a comfy mercedes by the church, is not that christian.

His praises are empty. If we give zero to the church, its ultimately zero. He takes from the church, its a negative. He burns in hell

Edited April 10, 2013 by sportsboysg

[Guest Guest]

EVERY DOLLAR IS BACK UP BY RESERVE IN NATIONAL TREASURY, THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT FAITH IS THE CURRENCY IN HEAVEN. OUR FAITH PROCLAIMATION HAS TO BE BACKED UP BY OUR GIVING, OTHERWISE OUR PRAISES ARE EMPTY -- Millionaire Pastor Kong Hee

I find this quite shallow. It fine if people want to donate to the church, but ultimately its what we do that counts.

I can be christian, donate generously to the church but be a miser (or bully) outside. - This is just an example so don't bash me.

Ultimately if anything at all, it is the faith which should propel you to do the most good you can (within your means), it's not about the money.

[Guest Guest]

何耀珊有穿透人心的好嗓子，她微微动听的歌声能够愈疗所有伤痛，温暖最失落的心灵。

[Guest DivineS]

好一首＂China Wine", 再一首＂Kill Bill"也秒，果真让多少芽笼妓女，淫贱荡妇的心灵获得启发，让她们再接再厉，服务于众生。

[abang]

Has anyone heard of the following terms:

 

Blind faith

False prophets

 

Well the original idea for Ms Sun Ho to reach the non-believer was novel.

Initially, there was some form of creditability as she and her loving husband were in the press for GOOD news.

I remember a particular episode of Taiwan's 小燕有约， they were interviewed and projected very wholesome image.

However, once she started to dress (undress!) and dance provocatively, she lost her focus.

 

Although the book says that "Be among sinners", I think Ms Sun Ho had unwittingly become one.

How can a prim and proper Christian leader show her cleavage in public?

How can a RESPECTED Christian leader dress herself in such skimpy attire?

 

Worst, her music career is now going nowhere.

She is no longer young.. and no one, except a few, buys music anymore.

CD sales, including official legal digital downloads is almost non-existent in this part of the world.

Which is the right way for Ms Sun Ho?

[Alfred]

对我而言，Sun=妓女。

[Guest Guest]

对我而言，Sun=妓女。

你别以这样污秽的字眼诋毁，侮辱Sun!

[Guest FANS]

Sun Ho  also have her own  fans clubs. so u guys dont discriminate  her. Sun Ho we support u always.in fact some big shot members here are also from this church..

[Guest snowball]

为不喜欢的人犯口业值得吗?

[Guest Guest]

对我而言，Sun=妓女。

对我而言，Sun= Hiao 鸡

For non chinese, Hiao 鸡 means vain pot

[Sun Shines]

大家好，我们是支持何耀珊的歌迷，请多多支持，谢谢！

 

如果你是基督教徒或是城市丰收教会的成员，也恳请您为康希牧师与何耀珊祷告。

 

祝大家开心

[Guest Guest]

大家好，我们是支持何耀珊的歌迷，请多多支持，谢谢！

如果你是基督教徒或是城市丰收教会的成员，也恳请您为康希牧师与何耀珊祷告。

祝大家开心

wtf who are u? are u gay?

[sportsboysg]

sun ho isnt even on itunes

[curious_boi]

What kind of Ho is Sun Ho?

[Guest Guest]

164 CHC staff members demand to see COC’s Inquiry Report

April 13th, 2013 | Author: Editorial

Ho Yeow Sun aka Sun Ho, Kong Hee's wife

164 staff members of City Harvest Church (CHC) have demanded to see the Commissioner of Charities’ (COC) Inquiry Report, which has found financial mismanagement in CHC.

In an earlier statement on 9 Apr, COC invited representations from the public on its proposal to remove the 4 key office holders from CHC:

• Kong Hee (as governing board member)
• Lam Leng Hung (as governing board member and trustee);
• Tan Ye Peng (as governing board member and trustee); and
• Kelvin Teo Meng How (as key officer)

It said that for the purpose of making representations to remove the above individuals, should any person with specific information that can affect its earlier findings, wish to be granted access to the Inquiry Report, he should write in to the COC, providing his full reasons for the request. The COC said it may at its sole discretion, grant such requests if the COC is satisfied that there are good and sufficient reasons for giving that person access to the Inquiry report. Any person granted access must agree to the terms and conditions imposed by the COC for such access.

Now, the CHC staff members are saying they needed the report to defend their leaders, including their Pastor Kong Hee, from being expelled by the COC.

In a letter to COC on 11 Apr, the 164 staff members said they should be given access to the Inquiry Report as they were privy to “specific information that can affect the findings”, such as “how the church has been run and how decisions were made”.

They further added, “Many in our congregation are in complete disagreement with the proposal to have their pastors and leaders removed.”

For the 4, it is understood that once they are removed, they will be banned from holding office in the church or any other charity for life.

COC has proceeded to initiate the process to remove them plus 4 other non-key office holders from CHC after it found gross financial mismanagement inside CHC (‘COC proceeds to remove 8 CHC leaders from office‘). COC found, among other things, that millions of dollars of church funds were allegedly used to finance the music career of Kong’s wife Sun Ho.

Some of the CHC members have also individually written to COC to express their unhappiness.

Ms Esther Teo, a manager in the performance arts industry, said she could not understand why the COC needed to protect the church’s assets when members understood and endorsed the Crossover Project, meant to use Ms Ho’s secular music to reach out to non-Christians.

 

 

Ms Teo added, “We spoke with our votes. We contributed willingly and we have seen the fruits of our leaders’ labour.”

Meanwhile, the criminal proceedings for 6 of the CHC leaders, including Kong Hee, will start next month.

[abang]

Every one is innocent unless proven otherwise.

I am speaking on my personal platform and opinion only.

 

The issue at hand is the missing millions.

There is a need to explain for this amount - no one is pointing a finger at someone's international music career.

The question is whether there was a slim chance that the amount was misappropriated?

 

If this amount was accounted for the Crossover Project, then the case is closed!

[Guest Guest]

Every one is innocent unless proven otherwise.

I am speaking on my personal platform and opinion only.

 

The issue at hand is the missing millions.

There is a need to explain for this amount - no one is pointing a finger at someone's international music career.

The question is whether there was a slim chance that the amount was misappropriated?

 

If this amount was accounted for the Crossover Project, then the case is closed!

 

God gave Sun a dream to be an international superstar. And it's the same vision that God gave Pastor Kong.

 

"You must realize that it is God's will for you to prosper" 

(Copeland, Laws of Prosperity, p. 51)

 

If Sun and Pastor Kong have enough faith, they will triumph over the lawsuit and win souls for Christ using Sun's secular music. And they will conquer the lawsuit because Pastor Kong and Sun are giants in the faith.

[Guest Guest]

164 CHC staff members demand to see COC’s Inquiry Report

April 13th, 2013 | Author: Editorial

Ho Yeow Sun aka Sun Ho, Kong Hee's wife

164 staff members of City Harvest Church (CHC) have demanded to see the Commissioner of Charities’ (COC) Inquiry Report, which has found financial mismanagement in CHC.

In an earlier statement on 9 Apr, COC invited representations from the public on its proposal to remove the 4 key office holders from CHC:

• Kong Hee (as governing board member)
• Lam Leng Hung (as governing board member and trustee);
• Tan Ye Peng (as governing board member and trustee); and
• Kelvin Teo Meng How (as key officer)

  164 members? 一路死？ sure won't win one!

It said that for the purpose of making representations to remove the above individuals, should any person with specific information that can affect its earlier findings, wish to be granted access to the Inquiry Report, he should write in to the COC, providing his full reasons for the request. The COC said it may at its sole discretion, grant such requests if the COC is satisfied that there are good and sufficient reasons for giving that person access to the Inquiry report. Any person granted access must agree to the terms and conditions imposed by the COC for such access.

Now, the CHC staff members are saying they needed the report to defend their leaders, including their Pastor Kong Hee, from being expelled by the COC.

In a letter to COC on 11 Apr, the 164 staff members said they should be given access to the Inquiry Report as they were privy to “specific information that can affect the findings”, such as “how the church has been run and how decisions were made”.

They further added, “Many in our congregation are in complete disagreement with the proposal to have their pastors and leaders removed.”

For the 4, it is understood that once they are removed, they will be banned from holding office in the church or any other charity for life.

COC has proceeded to initiate the process to remove them plus 4 other non-key office holders from CHC after it found gross financial mismanagement inside CHC (‘COC proceeds to remove 8 CHC leaders from office‘). COC found, among other things, that millions of dollars of church funds were allegedly used to finance the music career of Kong’s wife Sun Ho.

Some of the CHC members have also individually written to COC to express their unhappiness.

Ms Esther Teo, a manager in the performance arts industry, said she could not understand why the COC needed to protect the church’s assets when members understood and endorsed the Crossover Project, meant to use Ms Ho’s secular music to reach out to non-Christians.

Ms Teo added, “We spoke with our votes. We contributed willingly and we have seen the fruits of our leaders’ labour.”

Meanwhile, the criminal proceedings for 6 of the CHC leaders, including Kong Hee, will start next month.

[Guest Guest]

164 CHC staff members demand to see COC’s Inquiry Report

April 13th, 2013 | Author: Editorial

Ho Yeow Sun aka Sun Ho, Kong Hee's wife

164 staff members of City Harvest Church (CHC) have demanded to see the Commissioner of Charities’ (COC) Inquiry Report, which has found financial mismanagement in CHC.

In an earlier statement on 9 Apr, COC invited representations from the public on its proposal to remove the 4 key office holders from CHC:

• Kong Hee (as governing board member)
• Lam Leng Hung (as governing board member and trustee);
• Tan Ye Peng (as governing board member and trustee); and
• Kelvin Teo Meng How (as key officer)

It said that for the purpose of making representations to remove the above individuals, should any person with specific information that can affect its earlier findings, wish to be granted access to the Inquiry Report, he should write in to the COC, providing his full reasons for the request. The COC said it may at its sole discretion, grant such requests if the COC is satisfied that there are good and sufficient reasons for giving that person access to the Inquiry report. Any person granted access must agree to the terms and conditions imposed by the COC for such access.

Now, the CHC staff members are saying they needed the report to defend their leaders, including their Pastor Kong Hee, from being expelled by the COC.

In a letter to COC on 11 Apr, the 164 staff members said they should be given access to the Inquiry Report as they were privy to “specific information that can affect the findings”, such as “how the church has been run and how decisions were made”.

They further added, “Many in our congregation are in complete disagreement with the proposal to have their pastors and leaders removed.”

For the 4, it is understood that once they are removed, they will be banned from holding office in the church or any other charity for life.

COC has proceeded to initiate the process to remove them plus 4 other non-key office holders from CHC after it found gross financial mismanagement inside CHC (‘COC proceeds to remove 8 CHC leaders from office‘). COC found, among other things, that millions of dollars of church funds were allegedly used to finance the music career of Kong’s wife Sun Ho.

Some of the CHC members have also individually written to COC to express their unhappiness.

Ms Esther Teo, a manager in the performance arts industry, said she could not understand why the COC needed to protect the church’s assets when members understood and endorsed the Crossover Project, meant to use Ms Ho’s secular music to reach out to non-Christians.

Ms Teo added, “We spoke with our votes. We contributed willingly and we have seen the fruits of our leaders’ labour.”

Meanwhile, the criminal proceedings for 6 of the CHC leaders, including Kong Hee, will start next month.

Sorry... Misplace my words into the quoted passage above.

164 members? 一路死？ sure won't win one!