City Harvest Church Discussion - Kong Hee & Sun Ho (Compiled)

[Guest Guest]

All organized religions are just a way to control and con the masses. this is the 21st century and people still believe in fairy tales? Sigh

[Guest Guest]

Can't wait for this longwinded trial to be over so that Sun Ho can return to the American music industry and release her long-awaited debut album, Cause a Ruckus!

[Guest Ener]

Hehehe everytime I see her China wine mtv or think of it, I laugh soo hard.

[Steve5380]

as for the CHC case :

 

their defend for sun ho venturing into the US pop scene to spread christianity thus need to spend all those millions of church money! that is just preposterous! anyone with half-a-brain won't believe it!

 

And even if no church money would have been spent, the whole idea of presenting this cheap female touting her sexuality as something that would attract people to religion is an aberration.

 

If her stupid act of 'singing' that took so much money is  HOLY,  what is wrong with a show of transvestites?

Stop defaming Sun!

 

Is it defaming her or being honest about her?

[Guest Guest]

Dear all,

 

Many critics of Sun Ho and City Harvest Church are saying that Sun Ho is lousy and deserves to go to prison.

 

However, I feel that this is uncalled for.

 

As a Sun Ho fan, I’ve listened to her music since young and I am very touched by her personally.

 

Let me give you a factual breakdown of why Sun Ho should be given a second chance to shine and be as good as any international superstar:

 

1. Sun Ho is a Christian, so she has more spirituality

This means that if she is guided by the right spirit, she will be doing good work to help win more souls. The world will be a better place as a result.

 

2. Sun Ho is prettier, and has more versatility with her look

Sun Ho is Asian, and yes, she is Chinese, but she can pull off the Japanese geisha look easily as well. If she wants to look Korean, she can too. I don’t think Beyonce or Shakira can do the Asian/ Geisha look. They are not as versatile.

 

3. Sun Ho can sing better

Sun Ho has got a low voice but she can cover many scale ranges. Not to mention, Sun Ho can sing in at least two languages — English and Mandarin.

 

4. Sun Ho can dance better

Sun Ho has many energetic dance moves that are hard to duplicate if you are not trained to do it. She has a smaller frame than Beyonce, which means Sun Ho is more agile. It is the same with Lionel Messi: He is short, but swift.

 

5. Sun Ho helps people through her music by helping them heal

Through her singing, Sun Ho has helped many people she has met to find purpose in their lives. She has many people who have testimonies to share — like choreographers and backup dancers.

 

6. Sun Ho can sing more genres of music like R&B and pop

Give her diverse vocal range and her ability to sing in two languages, Sun Ho can easily switch genres without feeling like a fish out of water. She can take on fast and slow songs.

 

7. Sun Ho can juggle family life and work

Sun Ho is married and she can take care of her kid while pursing her career in music at the same time. This takes a lot of effort!

 

8. Sun Ho can be more famous if given the chance

Her popularity was reaching a very high peak in 2010 before they decided they had to tone down due to public backlash. But given a chance to bloom, Sun Ho would do very well in Singapore and America. She can easily become a global superstar with the right timing.

 

9. Sun Ho has more fashion sense

Sun Ho has an Ed Hardy design label that is very fashionable. The trendy clothes are worn by many other celebrities in America.

 

10. Sun Ho makes more money

Lastly, Sun Ho has the drive and money to make it big. This is actually known as the Matthew Effect in the Bible: For those who have, more will be given.

 

I hope people can give her a chance to try again.

 

Yours sincerely,
Sun Ho fan

[Guest good laugh]

 

Dear all,

 

Many critics of Sun Ho and City Harvest Church are saying that Sun Ho is lousy and deserves to go to prison.

 

However, I feel that this is uncalled for.

 

As a Sun Ho fan, I’ve listened to her music since young and I am very touched by her personally.

 

Let me give you a factual breakdown of why Sun Ho should be given a second chance to shine and be as good as any international superstar:

 

1. Sun Ho is a Christian, so she has more spirituality

This means that if she is guided by the right spirit, she will be doing good work to help win more souls. The world will be a better place as a result.

 

2. Sun Ho is prettier, and has more versatility with her look

Sun Ho is Asian, and yes, she is Chinese, but she can pull off the Japanese geisha look easily as well. If she wants to look Korean, she can too. I don’t think Beyonce or Shakira can do the Asian/ Geisha look. They are not as versatile.

 

3. Sun Ho can sing better

Sun Ho has got a low voice but she can cover many scale ranges. Not to mention, Sun Ho can sing in at least two languages — English and Mandarin.

 

4. Sun Ho can dance better

Sun Ho has many energetic dance moves that are hard to duplicate if you are not trained to do it. She has a smaller frame than Beyonce, which means Sun Ho is more agile. It is the same with Lionel Messi: He is short, but swift.

 

5. Sun Ho helps people through her music by helping them heal

Through her singing, Sun Ho has helped many people she has met to find purpose in their lives. She has many people who have testimonies to share — like choreographers and backup dancers.

 

6. Sun Ho can sing more genres of music like R&B and pop

Give her diverse vocal range and her ability to sing in two languages, Sun Ho can easily switch genres without feeling like a fish out of water. She can take on fast and slow songs.

 

7. Sun Ho can juggle family life and work

Sun Ho is married and she can take care of her kid while pursing her career in music at the same time. This takes a lot of effort!

 

8. Sun Ho can be more famous if given the chance

Her popularity was reaching a very high peak in 2010 before they decided they had to tone down due to public backlash. But given a chance to bloom, Sun Ho would do very well in Singapore and America. She can easily become a global superstar with the right timing.

 

9. Sun Ho has more fashion sense

Sun Ho has an Ed Hardy design label that is very fashionable. The trendy clothes are worn by many other celebrities in America.

 

10. Sun Ho makes more money

Lastly, Sun Ho has the drive and money to make it big. This is actually known as the Matthew Effect in the Bible: For those who have, more will be given.

 

I hope people can give her a chance to try again.

 

Yours sincerely,

Sun Ho fan

 

not sure serious or trolling. lol

[Steve5380]

 

Dear all,

 

Many critics of Sun Ho and City Harvest Church are saying that Sun Ho is lousy and deserves to go to prison.

 

However, I feel that this is uncalled for.

 

As a Sun Ho fan, I’ve listened to her music since young and I am very touched by her personally.

 

Let me give you a factual breakdown of why Sun Ho should be given a second chance to shine and be as good as any international superstar:

 

1. Sun Ho is a Christian, so she has more spirituality

This means that if she is guided by the right spirit, she will be doing good work to help win more souls. The world will be a better place as a result.

 

2. Sun Ho is prettier, and has more versatility with her look

Sun Ho is Asian, and yes, she is Chinese, but she can pull off the Japanese geisha look easily as well. If she wants to look Korean, she can too. I don’t think Beyonce or Shakira can do the Asian/ Geisha look. They are not as versatile.

 

---  blah, blah, blah

 

 

I suspect that your post is an exercise in sarcasm.  Either this, or you are a fool.

 

To be a Christian does not mean to have more spirituality.  Often it is just the opposite. It means more naivety, more attraction to the fantastic.

 

Where did you get that she is prettier, sings better, dances better, is more versatile ???  Compared to whom?

 

Her music helps people heal ???  This is absurd.  If you want "healing music", you listen to Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Schubert... , not her cheap pop.

 

Why would she juggle family and work better than any other woman?

 

She HAD THE CHANCE TO BE FAMOUS.  Instead, she is now INFAMOUS.

 

Sun Ho MAKES MORE MONEY?   So far she has wasted more money than the majority of women in this world.  And MONEY THAT WAS NOT HERS.

 

But maybe you are a sincere fan of Sun Ho.  If so, my condolences.

[fitonedude]

Dear all,

Many critics of Sun Ho and City Harvest Church are saying that Sun Ho is lousy and deserves to go to prison.

However, I feel that this is uncalled for.

As a Sun Ho fan, I’ve listened to her music since young and I am very touched by her personally.

Let me give you a factual breakdown of why Sun Ho should be given a second chance to shine and be as good as any international superstar:

1. Sun Ho is a Christian, so she has more spirituality

This means that if she is guided by the right spirit, she will be doing good work to help win more souls. The world will be a better place as a result.

2. Sun Ho is prettier, and has more versatility with her look

Sun Ho is Asian, and yes, she is Chinese, but she can pull off the Japanese geisha look easily as well. If she wants to look Korean, she can too. I don’t think Beyonce or Shakira can do the Asian/ Geisha look. They are not as versatile.

3. Sun Ho can sing better

Sun Ho has got a low voice but she can cover many scale ranges. Not to mention, Sun Ho can sing in at least two languages — English and Mandarin.

4. Sun Ho can dance better

Sun Ho has many energetic dance moves that are hard to duplicate if you are not trained to do it. She has a smaller frame than Beyonce, which means Sun Ho is more agile. It is the same with Lionel Messi: He is short, but swift.

5. Sun Ho helps people through her music by helping them heal

Through her singing, Sun Ho has helped many people she has met to find purpose in their lives. She has many people who have testimonies to share — like choreographers and backup dancers.

6. Sun Ho can sing more genres of music like R&B and pop

Give her diverse vocal range and her ability to sing in two languages, Sun Ho can easily switch genres without feeling like a fish out of water. She can take on fast and slow songs.

7. Sun Ho can juggle family life and work

Sun Ho is married and she can take care of her kid while pursing her career in music at the same time. This takes a lot of effort!

8. Sun Ho can be more famous if given the chance

Her popularity was reaching a very high peak in 2010 before they decided they had to tone down due to public backlash. But given a chance to bloom, Sun Ho would do very well in Singapore and America. She can easily become a global superstar with the right timing.

9. Sun Ho has more fashion sense

Sun Ho has an Ed Hardy design label that is very fashionable. The trendy clothes are worn by many other celebrities in America.

10. Sun Ho makes more money

Lastly, Sun Ho has the drive and money to make it big. This is actually known as the Matthew Effect in the Bible: For those who have, more will be given.

I hope people can give her a chance to try again.

Yours sincerely,

Sun Ho fan

Your eyes got stamps and brains choked by cum is it?

[Guest Guest]

Wasn't the 'money to make it big' from the sale of her cds to church members?

[mith]

all the 10 points are clearly delusional, and you are in deep denial!

Edited October 18, 2015 by mith

[mith]

BURN THE WITCH! 

[bluerunner]

Wah... From Flaming Room to here. Tsk tsk

Really full of shit sia.

[Guest Ener]

Hahaha I like the way he point out the 10 pointers. It actually does make me think. I thought she was bad, but after the pointers she much worst then bad. Thanks for the enlightenment.

[Guest Guest]

10. Sun Ho makes more money

Lastly, Sun Ho has the drive and money to make it big. This is actually known as the Matthew Effect in the Bible: For those who have, more will be given.

I hope people can give her a chance to try again.

Yours sincerely,Sun Ho fan

Oppossss...this proves that she doesn't have talent...even millions of church fund have been spend to promote her, she is still no where

it shows that it wasn't God will

[Guest Guest]

Tomorrow is judgement day! Can't wait ! :twisted:

[Steve5380]

Oppossss...this proves that she doesn't have talent...even millions of church fund have been spend to promote her, she is still no where

it shows that it wasn't God will

 

Hahaha... "God's will"...

 

If a God had any intention to make her a superstar, he would have done that without a single dollar spent.

[Guest Guest]

 

Dear all,

 

Many critics of Sun Ho and City Harvest Church are saying that Sun Ho is lousy and deserves to go to prison.

 

However, I feel that this is uncalled for.

 

As a Sun Ho fan, I’ve listened to her music since young and I am very touched by her personally.

 

Let me give you a factual breakdown of why Sun Ho should be given a second chance to shine and be as good as any international superstar:

 

1. Sun Ho is a Christian, so she has more spirituality

This means that if she is guided by the right spirit, she will be doing good work to help win more souls. The world will be a better place as a result.

 

2. Sun Ho is prettier, and has more versatility with her look

Sun Ho is Asian, and yes, she is Chinese, but she can pull off the Japanese geisha look easily as well. If she wants to look Korean, she can too. I don’t think Beyonce or Shakira can do the Asian/ Geisha look. They are not as versatile.

 

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Some people really kana washed until no more brains left already.... And here I am, thinking that the 70% was bad.

[mith]

Tomorrow is judgement day! Can't wait ! :twisted:

 

i say BURN THE WITCH!

[Guest guest]

Today's news article :

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/singapore/city-harvest-church-trial/2204884.html

In short...

Judge See is expected to deliver his judgement as to whether the six are guilty as charged on Wednesday.

If any of the six are found guilty, the prosecution and defence will come before the judge again at a later date, to put forward their recommendations on the appropriate punishment for the accused.

Criminal breach of trust can attract a life sentence or a jail term of up to 20 years, and a fine. The falsification of accounts carries a jail term of up to 10 years and a fine.

[Guest Guest]

Praying to our beloved Lord Jesus for Pastor Kong and the rest to be acquitted.

They are innocent men of Jesus spreading the gospel through the Crossover.

Let the light shine in Court tomorrow!

[Guest hmmm]

Look at the case of religious Ming Yi monk, TT durai case, I think the punishment won't be so harsh.  Than again, what has City Harvest concretely done for the community? did they built school, hospital, or other institution for the needy in Singapore?  Apparently, the donation money were used for self glamorious expenditure.  That should count for harsh punishment. 

[Guest Guest]

Oppossss...this proves that she doesn't have talent...even millions of church fund have been spend to promote her, she is still no where

it shows that it wasn't God will

What do you mean she is still nowhere?? Where have you been, under a rock?

She was the first Asian singer to top the Billboard Charts, not once, not twice, but 5 times! Even Korea's Wonder Girls didn't manage such a Guinness feat.

[Steve5380]

What do you mean she is still nowhere?? Where have you been, under a rock?

She was the first Asian singer to top the Billboard Charts, not once, not twice, but 5 times! Even Korea's Wonder Girls didn't manage such a Guinness feat.

 

From all the extensive religious education i have received,

I realize that nothing pleases God more

than one of His children receiving the award of "first Asian singer to top the Billboard Charts 5 times!!"

This must give Sun Ho a first row in orchestra in Heaven, no?

[mith]

even the devil has supporters!

[nixorn]

Live updates below.

Wow...need to give out queue tickets...

Sun ho's hairstyle covers one eye...

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/singapore/live-updates-city-harvest/2206970.html

[EasleyLim]

Serina's looking fine as hell. Her makeup is totally on point, lol.

[CamperBoy]

Found guilty. But sentencing will be on a later date. More appeals and more court dates. Will drag for another year maybe lol

[Steve5380]

Live updates below.

Wow...need to give out queue tickets...

Sun ho's hairstyle covers one eye...

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/singapore/live-updates-city-harvest/2206970.html

 

All right. They were found guilty.

Now the matter is what will the sentence be.

 

Will the church members petition the judge to be like Christ and FORGIVE the sinners (the guilty ones) if they worship him?

On the other hand, these churchy people have made their business by bringing up the guilt (sins) of others.

For example, they cannot leave gays in peace with our alleged sins, 

but they have to bring them up and condemn them as much as they can.

So, why should they be treated differently than they treat others?

[Guest guest]

From cna :

Six leaders of City Harvest Church have been found guilty of misappropriating S$50 million of church funds and falsifying the church's accounts to cover up their misdeeds....

City Harvest Church has released a statement on their website. In the statement, CHC co-founder Sun Ho said that they were "disappointed by the outcome".

"Nonetheless, I know that Pastor Kong and the rest are studying the judgment intently and will take legal advice from their respective lawyers in the days to come," she added.

Sun ho's full statement on the verdict

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153747244519711&id=102907644710

[Guest Truth]

It was because of Eve, Adam Sin. It was because of Sun Ho, Kong Hee sin.  Nothing can be more truth than that.

[Guest Guest]

They are making it sounds like they are been wrongly prosecuted...   calling or invoking the name of God.  Such heights of hypocrisy!       

[mith]

let's pray for MAXIMUM sentence for them all!

 

no one is above the law! 

praying very hard for the maximum sentence!

since sunho is not among the prosecuted, let her burn in HELL! 

BURN THE WITCH!

[mith]

They are making it sounds like they are been wrongly prosecuted...   calling or invoking the name of God.  Such heights of hypocrisy!  

 

yeah lo, they really think they can get away with it! 

Edited October 21, 2015 by mith

[Guest Guest]

I couldnt be happier. Lets have big celebration tonight.

[Guest Guest]

Roland Poon who triggered the whole episode is the real saint.

[Guest Guest]

Ok. So they were found guilty by the Court. You all have gotten what you want, defaming them in the court of public opinion to sway the verdict against them.

Now that you've gotten what you want, just let it go. Stop being vengeful and vindictive and calling them names. Give them a second chance.

Amen.

[Guest wozzit]

So the verdict is in. All six guilty as charged. Lawrence Kong n his cohorts r no different from those many disgraced American televangelists like Jim n Tammy Faye Bakker who stole tens of millions. Funny how the louder these crooks protest they r doing Gods will, God has a strange way of seeing them finally condemned for their actions. 

 

Misappropriating $24 million in church funds n then using another $26 million in a cover up through falsifying accounts. All to promote Kongs wife. The guest who has been very active here in defending these swindlers n a pretty average singer shld now disappear with his tail between his legs.

[Guest Ener]

But we all have a tail between our legs. Hehehe..

[Guest wozzit]

Ha! Perhaps his will now be so shamed he will not b able to get it up to lead similar lost causes 

 

Seriously tho, Kong has now been branded by the DPP as "a well-practised liar". That shld help emasculate him in future attempts to campaign against the gay community.

[Guest Guest]

Ha! Perhaps his will now be so shamed he will not b able to get it up to lead similar lost causes

Seriously tho, Kong has now been branded by the DPP as "a well-practised liar". That shld help emasculate him in future attempts to campaign against the gay community.

It's Lawrence Khong who campaigned against the gay community, not Kong Hee.

[Guest wozzit]

Apologies for the wrong association!

[mith]

Ok. So they were found guilty by the Court. You all have gotten what you want, defaming them in the court of public opinion to sway the verdict against them.

Now that you've gotten what you want, just let it go. Stop being vengeful and vindictive and calling them names. Give them a second chance.

Amen.

 

NEVER! sunho is still not punish! BURN THE WITCH!

[Guest guest]

Following the judgment, the church said all six are now taking legal advice, with some of their lawyers suggesting their clients may appeal the sentence.

All have been released on bail of between S$750,000 (Wee, Sharon) and S$1 million (Kong, Tan, Lam and Chew) though overseas travel is not permitted.

Sentencing will take place at a later date, with the court due to hear submissions from defence and prosecution lawyers from Nov 6 to 20.

That's alot of bail money in total.

Project Crossover? This time really can cross over to behind bars...same...can also spread their teachings right?

CHC 2.0? Sound like some software upgrade...too bad the virus n bugs stil not removed.

[Guest Ener]

Lolz... They can easily afford the bail... U sure they not using church funds for the bails too?

[mith]

yeah, should probe into where the bail money's coming from. it should not be church fund! 

 

what's scary is that CHC still have tons of supporters! clearly brain dead!

[Guest guest]

let's pray for MAXIMUM sentence for them all!

no one is above the law!

praying very hard for the maximum sentence!

since sunho is not among the prosecuted, let her burn in HELL!

BURN THE WITCH!

Well said!!!! Can you torture her to the extreme before burning?! Her scream and her distorted face will be good as MTV. Be relentless!!!

[Guest Guest]

I wonder is it the case, as some people are saying, that the six must be convicted first, before a case can br brought against Sun Ho.

 

I certainly hope so. The woman is no innocent, clueless beneficiary. Actually, anybody blind could tell she has to be in on it. To allow her to continue to lead CHC, releasing statement like today's is a travesty of justice and religion. She has to be brought down too.

[mith]

I wonder is it the case, as some people are saying, that the six must be convicted first, before a case can br brought against Sun Ho.

 

I certainly hope so. The woman is no innocent, clueless beneficiary. Actually, anybody blind could tell she has to be in on it. To allow her to continue to lead CHC, releasing statement like today's is a travesty of justice and religion. She has to be brought down too.

 

innocent! sun ho is definitely NOT! she must be brought before the law and face judgement! 

[mith]

CHC has estimated 17500 highly educated brain-dead moronic supporters who still contributes more than 20% of their monthly salary to CHC, meaning to the pocket of kong hee to "fund: his luxurious life style of residency in sentosa cove, flying 1st class jet, eating and using high end everyday food/things!

 

i dont suppose they even give as much to their own parents every month!

[Guest Guest]

CHC has estimated 17500 highly educated brain-dead moronic supporters who still contributes more than 20% of their monthly salary to CHC, meaning to the pocket of kong hee to "fund: his luxurious life style of residency in sentosa cove, flying 1st class jet, eating and using high end everyday food/things!

 

i dont suppose they even give as much to their own parents every month!

 

I don't entirely agree, based on my own experiences with them.

 

Many of them know what's going on. Perhaps not the issues in court, but that everything there is $$$. The folks are there for networking, business sourcing, contact making etc. One of those who tried to evangelise me stated bluntly, as long as I can get the pastor to mention my biz, I would be swarmed with so much business I wouldn't be able to cope. Think of the seduction that would be to business owners, or jobs that require massive contact lists like RE agents, insurance agents etc.