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What right has any Church to invest in the pop singing career of its co-founder in a country where the CHC means absolutely nothing to more than a handful of ppl n when there is absolutely nothing in her songs that mention even one word about God n a Christian lifestyle? It has no right whatsoever.

Recently read this in a related blog. Those who believe in crusading prophets wld be wise to take note -

Talking about being dangerous” indeed. This is the great danger of the claim to prophetic gifting; it gives a man, in practice, an infallibility far worse than that claimed by the Papacy, for the Pope has only used that supposed infallibility twice, if that, while the modern Charismatic ‘Prophets’ use theirs almost daily, laying their followers under heavy burdens to fulfil these “words from the Lord.”

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While u bury ur nose in her abalone, she will grab ur hair and clam ur face tighter towards her unwashed groin and lock ur head between her thighs....."surrender urself Steve! U will be my slave forever!"

Kong Hee will come after you for posting this. Only he has the sole rights to do this.

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I hope all CHC members r forced to purchase 100 copies of that vdo to give to all their friends n work colleagues so they can finally realise what a foul waste of their money it was to finance that vdo with its allusion to violence n pornography.

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I hope all CHC members r forced to purchase 100 copies of that vdo to give to all their friends n work colleagues so they can finally realise what a foul waste of their money it was to finance that vdo with its allusion to violence n pornography.

 

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I want to encourage you. You know what, we love City Harvest Church. We love the vision that God has given to us, and we love God. Today I want to encourage you. Why don’t we just give… to God; not to man, not to anybody. But we give to him. Why? Simply because we love him. Simply because he love us. Simply because how much he has given to each and every one of us. His one and only son.

Today as we reciprocate his love toward us, by giving during this time of uncertainty, all the more it is so much more precious in the eyes of God. and I pray that today, God will see those sacrifices and your offering. And he will bless each and every one of us. You know we thank you today, and you see there is an envelope that look like this, I want you to just take it out, and put your offering inside, and you can, if you are making a cheque make it payable to ‘City Harvest Church, I want to encourage you to fulfill your tithe, your building fund. Thank you for your giving, thank you for your love towards City Harvest Church. God loves you, let’s give with a big wide smile. Amen? Praise God.

http://mothership.sg/2015/10/here-was-how-kong-hee-said-sorry-to-the-city-harvest-church-congregation/

 

Thank you.  The message is impressive  (I won't say what the impression is...)

 

But there is a much better way to give to God DIRECTLY,  not to man, but to GOD.

 

You take a handful of gold coins and you throw them far up in the sky.

The coins that don't come back down are the ones taken by GOD.

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The poor mental health of many today has lead them to seek solace and comfort from these fast talking and deceptive rogues. Who are in disguise as good "doctors" healing and taking advantage of these poor lost souls .

Something about modern and urban living gives rise to this .

I suspect it's the profound emptiness and fear that brings out the need in these " sheep "

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Steve....u r just bias and it clouded ur judgement. Come....be open....let down ur pretention & feel Sun Ho like a ray of hope shining onto ur face. So tender....so pure.....so much love.....repeat after me: Sun Ho is the best! I love Sun Ho....she is my guardian angel.......Sun Ho Sun Ho Sun Ho....

U must try Sun Ho's abalone.....smell it....press ur face against it....lick it....u will be Sun Ho's forever Supporter Steve!

 

While u bury ur nose in her abalone, she will grab ur hair and clam ur face tighter towards her unwashed groin and lock ur head between her thighs....."surrender urself Steve! U will be my slave forever!"

 

Thank you Agent for your kind advice, I feel that you have the best interest in the well-being and salvation of my soul.

 

After some thought I have decided to give Sun Ho the same consideration deserved by the famous Singaporean actress Anabel Chong.

 

Anabel's epic production "The World's Biggest Gang Bang"  has a similar statue as Sun Ho's videos,  there are many similarities in these ladies' talents.

 

I would give Anabel a higher rating because she was more honest about her work,  but Sun Ho has in her favor the support of her God.

 

Before I follow your advice about her abalone...   I prefer to wait for her to have some vaginal reconstruction.  This is what I would do with the Anabel, and I suspect that Sun Ho may have had some similar experience and a similar abalone condition.

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Sun Ho is still Singapore's top international superstar!!

 

You hated Sun Ho so much ?  You want more people to bash her by saying something untrue.  Thou shalt not lie.

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Religion should be treated like a business. If what you ask for does not come true or come about for what you pray for. Withhold your money to them till it come true FIRST.

If you don't get the watch working the way it was claimed to work, would you buy it still? Especially after see too many example of abusive claims over it from others who had the watch.

I have spend half my life believing in all this religious stuff and teaching and then spend the other half without all of them after that. I found my life more meaningful, more successful and fulfilling after leave all the religious nonsense in the wind.

I have seen and encounter many successful evils, satans,devils on earth too , some are highly educated too , so be very careful ......

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Thank you Agent for your kind advice, I feel that you have the best interest in the well-being and salvation of my soul.

After some thought I have decided to give Sun Ho the same consideration deserved by the famous Singaporean actress Anabel Chong.

Anabel's epic production "The World's Biggest Gang Bang" has a similar statue as Sun Ho's videos, there are many similarities in these ladies' talents.

I would give Anabel a higher rating because she was more honest about her work, but Sun Ho has in her favor the support of her God.

Before I follow your advice about her abalone... I prefer to wait for her to have some vaginal reconstruction. This is what I would do with the Anabel, and I suspect that Sun Ho may have had some similar experience and a similar abalone condition.[/quote

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To me , no difference , both belong to the same group of .....

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"you invest in a project if you think you can make a return, a profit. They probably took one look at Sun Ho and thought, "no way she's going to make any money, this is but a vanity project. I'm going to invest with someone else who can actually make some money." Sun Ho was just so wrong for the American market in so many ways; yet she suffered from delusions of grandeur. Most of all, her team was under the impression that they could just keep throwing money at the project until it worked, ignoring the evidence before them that grew glaringly obvious. Anyone with any basic business acumen would realize how badly wrong things were going for them.

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http://limpehft.blogspot.sg/2015/10/limpehs-full-sun-hochc-tnp-interview.html

What basic business acumen are you talking about here ? My old aged grandma who is a widowed housewife all her life has been asking who the hell is she to get promoted like these and with whose money ?!

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I hope all CHC members r forced to purchase 100 copies of that vdo to give to all their friends n work colleagues so they can finally realise what a foul waste of their money it was to finance that vdo with its allusion to violence n pornography.

They should auction it at the lunar seventh month and display it at home while other religion heads keep those money , same big happy family !

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...somewhere in the bible stated that the poor will be more blessed in some ways ...maybe their church teaches otherwise or maybe it is so true that they want others to be poor but they remained rich and successful but not blessed ....

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Believe in yourself and think logically and sensibly. Sometimes when you are down and out you tend to loose faith in yourself and be easily sway away! I always get approached by christians friends and colleages to joint them, but always turn them away! Simply because i have my rights to believe who show rule me! I believe in my own instincts when i dont feel good that is something must be wrong! To those people out there save yourself first because you have the right to live your live the way you want as the mighty god has given u a life! Please use your brain and think!!!! You know what i told my christian friend one day? Why would you call him father? When he don't even look like us! And my friend was stunt! Lol

So now you might be thinking all Christians are alike ?! Think again , that's where prejudice , hatred , trust , etc comes into question when you are believing in yourself too much !! Remember there was a time almost everyone believe the world is flat and calling the rest crazy to believe it is round until proven otherwise ! Even till this day , most will not believe in thing that are not seen with their own eyes... By the way , why do you believe the world is round , did you ever feel or touch it yourself or just by pictures and you believe in it !

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So now you might be thinking all Christians are alike ?! Think again , that's where prejudice , hatred , trust , etc comes into question when you are believing in yourself too much !! Remember there was a time almost everyone believe the world is flat and calling the rest crazy to believe it is round until proven otherwise ! Even till this day , most will not believe in thing that are not seen with their own eyes... By the way , why do you believe the world is round , did you ever feel or touch it yourself or just by pictures and you believe in it !

 

This is one of those classic monotheism apologist argument, isn't it? Have you seen the world is round ... have you actually flew to the sun ... etc.

Well no. But you see, there are tons of evidence, in all sorts of fields, that can prove the world is round. If you have the time and $$, and the legs, you can actually prove it for yourself.

On the other hand, all these higher up above, submit to him and everything, garden where man ate apple and everything, curiously not a shred of possibility of verification. You can only, er, BELIEVE.

Yeah right.

 

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This is one of those classic monotheism apologist argument, isn't it? Have you seen the world is round ... have you actually flew to the sun ... etc.

Well no. But you see, there are tons of evidence, in all sorts of fields, that can prove the world is round. If you have the time and $$, and the legs, you can actually prove it for yourself.

On the other hand, all these higher up above, submit to him and everything, garden where man ate apple and everything, curiously not a shred of possibility of verification. You can only, er, BELIEVE.

Yeah right.

Ok lah , go believe in yourself , I believe half of what you said , think will be wrong in life !

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This is one of those classic monotheism apologist argument, isn't it? Have you seen the world is round ... have you actually flew to the sun ... etc.

Well no. But you see, there are tons of evidence, in all sorts of fields, that can prove the world is round. If you have the time and $$, and the legs, you can actually prove it for yourself.

On the other hand, all these higher up above, submit to him and everything, garden where man ate apple and everything, curiously not a shred of possibility of verification. You can only, er, BELIEVE.

Yeah right.

Some said the eggs first before chicks , some says chicks come before eggs , some say evolution ! Who would you believe , if you believe in yourself so much , what is your answer then and prove it too !

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Some said the eggs first before chicks , some says chicks come before eggs , some say evolution ! Who would you believe , if you believe in yourself so much , what is your answer then and prove it too !

Maybe some believe in the big band theory , boom , everything started from there , yeah right , only one boom and everything falls into place perfectly ....why only one boom just for the one earth and not two or three ?

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Thank you Agent for your kind advice, I feel that you have the best interest in the well-being and salvation of my soul.

After some thought I have decided to give Sun Ho the same consideration deserved by the famous Singaporean actress Anabel Chong.

Anabel's epic production "The World's Biggest Gang Bang" has a similar statue as Sun Ho's videos, there are many similarities in these ladies' talents.

I would give Anabel a higher rating because she was more honest about her work, but Sun Ho has in her favor the support of her God.

Before I follow your advice about her abalone... I prefer to wait for her to have some vaginal reconstruction. This is what I would do with the Anabel, and I suspect that Sun Ho may have had some similar experience and a similar abalone condition.

Vaginal reconstruction????? How??? Use Abalone oyster sauce to marinate is it????

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So now you might be thinking all Christians are alike ?! Think again , that's where prejudice , hatred , trust , etc comes into question when you are believing in yourself too much !! Remember there was a time almost everyone believe the world is flat and calling the rest crazy to believe it is round until proven otherwise ! Even till this day , most will not believe in thing that are not seen with their own eyes... By the way , why do you believe the world is round , did you ever feel or touch it yourself or just by pictures and you believe in it !

The trouble with many evangelical churches is they latch on to one sentence or even just one phrase in the Bible n then base their entire "ministry" on that.

As for the world being round I was once on the supersonic Concorde n saw the curvature of the earth. Anyone who believes it is not round will have a helluva lot of explaining to do. Just ask any airline pilot who regularly flies long distance! I don't recall any saying they found the worlds edge!

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There was an 2013 posting that questioned sun ho's hospital stay expenses when she gave birth.

https://m.facebook.com/CHCConfessions/posts/632536463432401

And her son now looking more n more like her...go google yrself.

Never knew chc got so many branches overseas...this article dated 2013 mention 48...malaysia, australia, us etc. Wonder how are they financially linked?

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/city-harvest-church-opens-overseas-branch-despite-scandal

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Yah sun is not Singapore TOP!!!! SHE IS WORLD #1

 

Now you want the whole world to bash her ? 

 

You broke another commandment of God: "Thou shalt not bear false witness".

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This is one of those classic monotheism apologist argument, isn't it? Have you seen the world is round ... have you actually flew to the sun ... etc.

Well no. But you see, there are tons of evidence, in all sorts of fields, that can prove the world is round. If you have the time and $$, and the legs, you can actually prove it for yourself.

On the other hand, all these higher up above, submit to him and everything, garden where man ate apple and everything, curiously not a shred of possibility of verification. You can only, er, BELIEVE.

Yeah right.

 

The Burden of prove lies with them to proof it but till today, none have given a single piece of evidence they have truth on their side. It's all about trust. But the problem here is, this trust is only for themselves to believe. For if you can given them enough reason to have them trust you, a mere human being they can see touch and talk to in person, they still rather believe in something being in the sky.

 

If the world is flat, it's very simple to prove. Just keep walking straight in one line and see if you come to the edge and what will you see? Or if the world was flat and in the age of digital cameras and drones,, how come no one took thousands if not million of photos of the edge of the world and show it in their churches? hehe

 

If someone tell me the world is flat? i will not hire him for sure. Something totally nonredeemable in that weak mind.

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Anyway, the good news is, research has found out that religion is losing the war and hold on more and more people around the world.

 

In the age of education, internet and more scientific findings and research... the real truth is coming more and more to the minds of people who once upon a time has only religion to turn to.

 

If ever there was a day, where a time machine can be made, while the world might celebrate that, it would be all the religious people of the world that will panic. For now, it is possible to go back in time to witness if what they preach all this time is true or not heheheheheh

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Please show Sun some respect, after all she was the first Singaporean to top the US Billboard Charts!

O ye of little understanding!

The U.S. Billboard Dance Chart is solely based on info from a small number of DJs n reflects the songs most often played on radio stations. It is common knowledge that this is a pay for play chart - meaning u pay the DJ n ur song is played. Pay enough n u top the charts. Plain n simple. It has absolutely nothing to do with popularity n nothing to do with sales. Easy to claim to b "superstar" when u hv enough cash to pay for it!

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Now you want the whole world to bash her ?

You broke another commandment of God: "Thou shalt not bear false witness".

Dont be silly. Asians love her so we give her money to produce the albums then we buy them to make her TOP. Whites love her more because she knows what to do......

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Funny how Sun performed China Wine and Mr Bill in Taiwan and China and was warmly received, but only Singaporeans are braying for her blood.

Not at all! Funnier surely that in the interviews in the two vdos in post #1195 there is absolutely no mention of her Church, of religion, of her being financed to live in a massively expensive mansion to bring the word of God to the USA - in fact theres absolutkeky not one word about God. All they show r a good time girl playing to the camera the entire time n being a blatant fashionista!

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Actually, why isn't anyone asking the most obvious question here?

WHY ISN'T SUN HO CHARGED AS WELL?

 

There surely must be some reason why she was not charged.

One possibility is that although she threw away tons of money they gave her (directly and indirectly),

she was not involved in the fraud this trial is about, and she took and used the money in good faith.

Those are a lot of if's, and a good prosecutor could see through them.

 

One good thing if she is charged and found guilty, is that she could maybe share the same cell with her husband, and do her duty as spouse.

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Maybe she turn State Evidence against the group to help the prosecutors?

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