Molested / Touched In Public or Private + Profile Of Molester + More men and boys fall prey to molesters but many choose to keep mum(compiled)

[Guest Jeremy]

No one got molested recently? Huhu

[Guest boy 21]

a bunch of 5 of us were travelling in taiwan for a holiday. so the 3 guys shared a room, while the 2 girls took the other. the triple room for us consist of 1 double and 1 single bed. of course all.of us wanted the single. played some oldfashioned game and P and I lost and we are to share the double. i have always suspected P to be gay but our friendship has always been clean.

 

it was night and we went to bed. P say he would sleep topless and i am fine since i sleep with only a Tshirt and boxers anyway. but i am a light sleeper and i usually dont turn while sleeping. unsure what time it was, i felt a hand carressing my dick. it became hard and i knew P was doing it. i thought he is horny and so be it. i am actually ok with him touching it. it was underneath the comforter. he pulled my cock out and started jerking me off. i didnt want to cum as it would dirty my boxers so i casually turn and back face him. i thought that should end and he is happy and i am good. what happen next to me i wasnt too happy.

 

im back facing him and he stopped for a moment. he then begin to put his hand into my boxers and make his way to my hole. i am top btw and i remembered his finger was wet (saliva maybe?) and he was playing and managed to put a finger inside. it was quite painful so i shoke a little and did another turn to face him. he stopped. he tried to touch my dick again and because i was hard already, after a little jerk, i cummed. he then stopped and it was next morning.

 

as we were washing up, i told him (to see his reaction) that i think i had a wet dream. and his reaction was: you must be damn horny! (i was thinking i know it is you!). but anyway, it was not molest but the fingering was not what i expected and i thought i was quite unhappy but its over.

[Guest touchie]

I must admit that I molested my bed buddy during army training phase. I regretted that I didn't admit my mistake back then to receive a punishment from him. 

that was like 10 years ago.

during the last month of the training phase, due to space constrains of the bunk, some of our beds had to be shifted and put side-by-side so as to allow ample walking space.

So apparently, my bed was situated beside an indian buddy, who's pretty good looking boyish type, someone whom I had been fantasizing with, even till today.

so came one day, late in the night, I was waken up around 2-3am in the night due to a hardon.  I opened my eyes and notice buddy was sleeping pretty close to me and his crotch was within my reach (mattresses were touching each other so didn't really have a gap in between).

He was sleeping soundly lying on his back, i was horny, and only left last few nights in this camp before we part ways, i seized the chance and extended my hand reaching out to him. So my hand reached his crotch area and I gently caressed his bulge, it was soft i think. I thought i'd make it hard, so after feeling his bulge for a few more seconds, I felt that I shouldn't do that, afraid that he'd be offended etc, and at the end of the day, I still wish to be his friend. So i stopped but slept close to him so I could still smell his scent. he didn't move a single bit.

then came the next morning, training proceeded as usual, and during a break, he approached me and ask "were you touching me last night?" I was shocked and thinking 'shit, how to get out of it...', and instantaneously replied him a questionable "no? touch where?" he gave me a smirk and dropped the subject. since single day since then, I regretted my action. not the one of me touching him, but about me not admitting it. 

We're still keeping in touch, during ICT that is, he's married but doesn't want to have kids (when we last talked about each other's life). I left 2 more reservist cycle with him. I think I will admit to him on our last cycle and have some closure.

 

 

[Guest guest]

9 hours ago, Guest boy 21 said:

a bunch of 5 of us were travelling in taiwan for a holiday. so the 3 guys shared a room, while the 2 girls took the other. the triple room for us consist of 1 double and 1 single bed. of course all.of us wanted the single. played some oldfashioned game and P and I lost and we are to share the double. i have always suspected P to be gay but our friendship has always been clean.

 

it was night and we went to bed. P say he would sleep topless and i am fine since i sleep with only a Tshirt and boxers anyway. but i am a light sleeper and i usually dont turn while sleeping. unsure what time it was, i felt a hand carressing my dick. it became hard and i knew P was doing it. i thought he is horny and so be it. i am actually ok with him touching it. it was underneath the comforter. he pulled my cock out and started jerking me off. i didnt want to cum as it would dirty my boxers so i casually turn and back face him. i thought that should end and he is happy and i am good. what happen next to me i wasnt too happy.

 

im back facing him and he stopped for a moment. he then begin to put his hand into my boxers and make his way to my hole. i am top btw and i remembered his finger was wet (saliva maybe?) and he was playing and managed to put a finger inside. it was quite painful so i shoke a little and did another turn to face him. he stopped. he tried to touch my dick again and because i was hard already, after a little jerk, i cummed. he then stopped and it was next morning.

 

as we were washing up, i told him (to see his reaction) that i think i had a wet dream. and his reaction was: you must be damn horny! (i was thinking i know it is you!). but anyway, it was not molest but the fingering was not what i expected and i thought i was quite unhappy but its over.

 

Did you try to control? He must have been stroking very quickly to make you cum against your will.

[CKW]

More men and boys fall prey to molesters but many choose to keep mum

 

What with all the recent news about sexual harassment faced by women, it is easy to overlook the fact that victims include men and boys - a small but growing group.

In Singapore, police data showed there were 98 male victims of outrage of modesty, or molestation, last year, making up 7 per cent of molestation victims. The number of male victims was 74 in 2010, making up 5 per cent of all molest victims that year.

While the number of victims who reported the offence to police has risen since 2010, social workers, medical professionals and lawyers interviewed say they are but the tip of the iceberg. Sexual abuse cases in general tend to be under-reported because of factors such as the culture of secrecy and shame felt by victims.

 

Still, the increase in molestation cases reported could be a result of more professionals, such as teachers and social workers, trained to spot young victims, said Ms Iris Lin, head of youth services at Fei Yue Community Services.

Veteran social worker Sudha Nair said it also showed that men, too, recognised that this was unacceptable behaviour.

"Victims of abuse have nothing to be ashamed of and seeking help is the courageous thing to do. Their coming forward means that the perpetrators can get help too," she added.

 

On why it is much harder for a male victim to speak up, Mr Kenny Liew, senior clinical psychologist at the Institute of Mental Health, said: "The difference may be due to gender stereotypes and myths pertaining to sexual abuse of men, such as 'boys and men cannot be sexually abused' or 'they were lucky to have been touched by a female' or 'they must be weak if they can be molested by another male'."

 

Last year, 7 per cent of the 1,347 molestation victims were male, including young boys. Of the 98, 60 per cent were aged 21 and below.

 

As for the abusers, most were men. In fact, only eight women were arrested last year for outrage of modesty, compared with 864 men.

Offenders included family members, friends, colleagues and strangers, such as bus passengers, according to those interviewed.

Last month, an art teacher went on trial for molesting one of his students, a 13-year-old boy.

In September, a restaurant executive, 27, was jailed for eight months for molesting two teenage boys whom he did not know.

Or the offender can be a co-worker.

 

A man turned to the Association of Women for Action and Research (Aware) for help after he was molested by a colleague who was in a more senior position. He did not report the harassment as he feared that his bosses would not believe him.

Some 4 per cent of the 338 cases handled last year by Aware's Sexual Assault Care Centre involved male victims. They were either molested or experienced other forms of sexual violence, including sexual harassment.

Lawyer Daniel Atticus Xu noted the misconception that men cannot be molested.

"This isn't true, outrage of modesty cases can happen to both sexes. There might be the misconception as most of the time cases involving female victims are the ones highlighted," he said.

Mr Xu cited the case of a bridegroom-to-be who went to him for legal advice.

The man told him he was having his wedding photos taken when the male makeup artist touched his private parts. The man considered making a police report but decided not to as he was not confident of getting the makeup artist convicted.

"We spoke about some of his concerns like how there were no witnesses or CCTVs around, and how the makeup artist could say it was an accident," said Mr Xu.

"This, coupled with perhaps the stigma of being a male victim, he decided to keep silent."

A 29-year-old film maker, who gave his name only as Sam, shared his own experience.

He was a polytechnic student when a male friend tried to grope his private parts, he said, adding that he avoided that friend after the incident.

A few years ago, he was at a club with friends when he felt someone grab his buttocks. When he turned around, he said, a woman was standing behind him but she acted as though nothing happened.

He said the polytechnic incident "was a bit traumatic", but admitted that it did not occur to him to make a police report. If you have experienced sexual violence and need support, you can call Aware's Sexual Assault Care Centre helpline at 6779-0282 from Mondays to Fridays, 10 am to midnight.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/more-men-and-boys-fall-prey-to-molesters-but-many-choose-to-keep-mum

[CKW]

Why men find it hard to say they have been molested

 

SINGAPORE - Many male victims of molestation or sexual abuse suffer in silence, for various reasons.

Some may have a close relationship with the abuser, which makes it difficult to report the abuse. Others worry that no one will believe their story. Worse, they fear they may be blamed for what happened, according to social workers, medical professionals and lawyers who spoke to The Straits Times.

Mr Daniel Atticus Xu, a lawyer, said some male victims do not go to the police for fear their case will be reported in the media or because they do not know how people will view or react to them.

 

Some victims feel they are somehow to blame for the abuse.

"Many boys and men may still believe the gender myth that if they experienced sexual arousal during the abuse, then that means they wanted it, and so the abuse was their fault," said Mr Kenny Liew, a senior clinical psychologist at the Institute of Mental Health.

"They don't understand that the body can respond to sexual stimulation, even in situations that are unwanted, traumatic or painful. These conflicting feelings of care, pleasure, fear, guilt,betrayal and confusion can be intense and make disclosure a difficult process for males who have been molested."

 

Mr Liew added that in some cases, the victims, especially younger boys, keep mum because their abuser has threatened to hurt them or their loved ones.

 

But bottling it up is not a solution.

Some victims of sexual violence have gone on to develop psychological problems such as depression, suffer nightmares or feel anxiety when they are with certain people.

If allowed to fester, these feelings can blow up later on in their lives.

Veteran psychiatrist Munidasa Winslow has treated patients in their 30s or older with alcohol or drug addiction. When he probed deeper into the likely cause, the patients revealed they had been molested repeatedly when they were young. They took to drugs and alcohol in order to cope with the shame and trauma and other problems.

Said Dr Winslow: "Being molested or sexually abused leaves them ashamed, traumatised and feeling guilty. And these issues can blow up 10 or 20 years later."

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/why-men-find-it-hard-to-say-they-have-been-molested

[DrKartist]

It's time for men to stand up and say #metoo

Edited December 17, 2017 by DrKartist

[Guest sad]

I got sexually harrased by girls a few times. grabbing my butt , slapping it and "accidentally" brush my crotch and brazenly twist my nipples... but people just laugh it off:( 

[Guest Grey area?]

What about those cases whereby they appear to be making a joke or horsing around with you by touching your private areas? When is it a funny simulation and when does it move into sexual harassment territory? Is there a map of qualifying contexts that points to both molestation and horseplay?

[LeanMature]

13 hours ago, Guest Grey area? said:

What about those cases whereby they appear to be making a joke or horsing around with you by touching your private areas? When is it a funny simulation and when does it move into sexual harassment territory? Is there a map of qualifying contexts that points to both molestation and horseplay?

 

No such thing as joke or horseplay.  It is entirely up to the victim whether he wants to make a police report against you for molestation.  

[LeanMature]

21 minutes ago, starlioned said:

Making a police report is generally pointless. You most likely end up contributing to stats only.  The SPF is under trained and under qualified to deal with too many issues, which especially include outrages or modesty for both sexes. They have too much preconceptions that are outdated and unprofessional in nature. They simply do not regard such issues seriously to conduct investigations properly or even to prosecute. 

Its a result of I check myself and vet myself good. 

 

I have no comment on the police inefficiency.   But once convicted, the sentence meted by the court are  unusually harsh with jail term plus caning when minors are involved. 

[dsd]

I've encountered 6 molested victims. They are/were all old men when i first met them, and except for 2 the rest of them were molested in their youth.

 

1) Met him in hong lim park. He was a regular there. He would let me sit beside him to chat. Told me he was seduced by japanese officer during the war. He didn't use the word "rape", and it seem that the jap was quite nice hearted person. But if you were young, and in that era when disobeying a jap means a certain death, the liaison must be viewed as coerced. Right? I was young and still innocent when i met him, and had a huge crush on him, but he (i think) was looking out only for rich sugar babies...

 

2) a rather plump old man i met at paradiz centre. Married with a son, he told me he was "grabbed" and raped when he was young. Even after he got married, he never got over it and subsequently led a double life which he said was very "hard" for him. He is pure bottom. And only person who can autocum while being fucked. I still see him around woodlands mrt occasionally, often accompanied by his wife. 

 

To be continued 

[abang]

This is my slutty side again ..

如果有人要吃我豆腐，来。。Come, squeeze me, feel me...

But who cares to molest an old man? 

Ha ha ..

 

Actually I guess  pure impulsiveness is the only contributing factor for committing the crimes.  If someone is unable to control his urges, go to the SAFEST places - a gay establishment.  At the most, he is REJECTED but won't be persecuted!

[Guest Barbaric Nativities]

On 18/12/2017 at 2:38 PM, LeanMature said:

 

No such thing as joke or horseplay.  It is entirely up to the victim whether he wants to make a police report against you for molestation.  

Well then there are many NS mates, one staff sergeant and one warrant officer i can make a police report against. I also saw them touching the crotch of another guy in a joking manner. It is unbelievably common in the military services and dastardly under-reported.

[Guest Retard]

7 hours ago, starlioned said:

Making a police report is generally pointless. You most likely end up contributing to stats only.  The SPF is under trained and under qualified to deal with too many issues, which especially include outrages or modesty for both sexes. They have too much preconceptions that are outdated and unprofessional in nature. They simply do not regard such issues seriously to conduct investigations properly or even to prosecute. 

Its a result of I check myself and vet myself good. 

The local judge even thinks males have no modesty to speak of, much less outraged. It's like thinking women doesn't have sexual desires. Fucking backwards.

[Guest :-(]

Got people touch my kkj during BMT as pranks, is that considered as molest too? 

 

Damnn, should've reported this as molest case too

[wilfgene]

Because there is less social innuendos of a pressure to keep mum, unless  it happened within the SACRED  family.  

[LeanMature]

13 hours ago, Guest Barbaric Nativities said:

Well then there are many NS mates, one staff sergeant and one warrant officer i can make a police report against. I also saw them touching the crotch of another guy in a joking manner. It is unbelievably common in the military services and dastardly under-reported.

 

You can if you had been touched deliberately, not accidentally, whether in a jokingly or non-jokingly manner. Being gay doesn't means you like to be touch that way and being a common thing in the military doesn't mean it is an acceptable behaviour.  

The only thing is, you destroyed the staff sergeant and warrant officer career and probably their families too. 

[Guest Molested]

11 minutes ago, LeanMature said:

 

You can if you had been touched deliberately, not accidentally, whether in a jokingly or non-jokingly manner. Being gay doesn't means you like to be touch that way and being a common thing in the military doesn't mean it is an acceptable behaviour.  

The only thing is, you destroyed the staff sergeant and warrant officer career and probably their families too. 

Then why are they so stupid? Starlioned said the police will not investigate or charge, so probably i would be ostracised and humiliated further in camp. Anyway that happened many years ago, but i still feel angry thinking about it. Especially the two NS mates who molested me often displayed very homophobic attitudes in camp. Ironic, huh?

[Guest sad real stories]

 

 

 

 

[Guest Molested]

14 minutes ago, starlioned said:

Unless u made your report then n there with other collaborating  witness, it's your word against theirs. Unlikely you be taken seriously, both by the spf or Mindef. Mindef will like to downplay any attempts of such nature. So prepare for potential backlash if you overstep certain lines. That's the reality. Lack of evidence, proof of intent(mensrea), witnesses all amount to no case.  

Most  CS from SPF to God knows who, have this guiding philosophy etched in their heart, '少做少错' do little less errors, do nothing is best. 

The higher rankings and NS mates actually did it in front of many people, so they will probably rely on that as excuse by indicating their conscience is clear. Yes and i believe the SPF is primitive and stupid, just like the Vatican with regards to sex abuse cases. They will probably smother it out and interpret the circumstances as a gigantic “misunderstanding”. Unless, someone has successfully complained about molest by SAF higher rankings before and can verify this.

[Guest Molested]

8 minutes ago, starlioned said:

My point is to highlight alot of disproportionate expectation of what the law and the enforcement system in Sg and around the world can do to protect the individual, in contrast to what reality has to offer. The only wise thing to do is to empower yourselves with knowledge n avoid such situations to begin with. Things happens only if you allow it by being passive and ignorant. Empower oneself with knowledge n exercise the right to say no and act on it. 

Things happened so fast.... some things are not within my control. But i was indeed quite ignorant at that time.

[LeanMature]

2 hours ago, Guest Molested said:

Then why are they so stupid? Starlioned said the police will not investigate or charge, so probably i would be ostracised and humiliated further in camp. Anyway that happened many years ago, but i still feel angry thinking about it. Especially the two NS mates who molested me often displayed very homophobic attitudes in camp. Ironic, huh?

 

You still feel angry because you did nothing and allowed them to go scot free.  If you had made a report there and then, the ball will be in the Police court, whether or not it end up with conviction.

[Guest Partly true]

3 hours ago, LeanMature said:

 

You still feel angry because you did nothing and allowed them to go scot free.  If you had made a report there and then, the ball will be in the Police court, whether or not it end up with conviction.

I regret not kicking up a fuss then. Then again, i was too inexperienced and ignorant to know better!

[Guest Molested]

6 hours ago, starlioned said:

My sympathies to you on your unfortunate experiences. Overall your non action probably saved you alot of potentially worse fallouts. What remains is for you to move on n let go. Anger is like a poison. It eats away at your soul, especially when there's little to nothing left you can do about it. If u wanna be angry make sure you can act on the anger. 

Thank you for the sound advices!

[TwoChnBTMs]

is there a age limite that one can be molested ?

[CKW]

Just now, TwoChnBTMs said:

is there a age limite that one can be molested ?

 

I don't think so.

 

There was a local taxi driver in his 60s who got drugged and molested by a passenger some years ago. In the report (in the New Paper), he expressed surprise that someone of his age would get molested, and by a man in his 40s at that.

[TwoChnBTMs]

Just now, CKW said:

 

I don't think so.

 

There was a local taxi driver in his 60s who got drugged and molested by a passenger some years ago. In the report (in the New Paper), he expressed surprise that someone of his age would get molested, and by a man in his 40s at that.

 oh...tot, my age,being uncle, no one wants to molest or can even cry molest 

[geizershow]

5 minutes ago, TwoChnBTMs said:

 oh...tot, my age,being uncle, no one wants to molest or can even cry molest 

This uncle is sexy hot stuff uncle kayyy.. not japalang one

[Guest Igotmolested]

There was this once i took a train from jurong east to cck. The train was pretty packed. When the train reached bukit batok, a malay uncle came in and stood in front of me. As the train was crowded, he was pretty close to me. I felt his hand touching my crotch a few times. But i didn't think he did it purposely. I tried moving away from him but failed as there was no space. He kept touching my crotch. I did not know what to do and i quickly left the train in the next stop. 

[Guest Infuriated]

Sorry for digging up an old thread, but really needed to vent my frustration.

 

I was taking the train yesterday and ran into a random stranger trying to hit me up with that fking cliché pickup line: "You look familiar, I think we've met before somewhere." He then proceeded to ask me where I used to study, which camp I serve in NS, my age and stuff.

 

I answered only his first question and told him he got the wrong person, but man.. was he relentless. He looked a slight bit mentally unsound too, but little did I expect that he would in public, straight-out ask an inappropriate question. He said he work for Durex and ask me if I know what that is and if I had used it before. I continue to ignore him and he got louder, attracting the attention of other commuters. All this while, he was constantly touching me on my upper arms and shoulder, trying to make other people on the train believe we know each other. 

 

As if saved by the bell, my stop arrived and I quickly rushed off the train, only to realize later that he had followed me. I went to a different platform to catch a transfer train and he crept up behind me, continuing his harassment with the inappropriate questions while trying to put his hands on me again.

 

By then, I was already extremely annoyed by this piece of shit and moved about 3-4 cabins away on the waiting platform, only to helplessly see him followed me all the way there too. After getting onto the train, he approached me once again with his nonsense and I had to move around repeatedly to avoid him. Needless to say, he followed me all the way through.

 

Despite multiple warning to him about not touching me and that I have no interest in what he have to say, he continued with his disturbing shenanigans. Worried that he might follow me all the way home, I waited for people to get off the train and for the doors closing announcement before rushing out of the train. But as it turned out, the door did not close immediately after the announcement maybe because I got off at the last second and triggered the sensor/train operator or something, and the goddamn psycho managed to exit the train as well.

 

I turned around to check and saw him walking towards my direction. By then, I was already pretty stressed-out and just sped my way down the escalator, blending into the crowd making their exit towards the shopping mall, which finally got him off my trail.

 

I was actually genuinely infuriated, not just by the way he acted towards me, but also at how helpless I was in that situation, coupled by the fact that he got away without any penalty, free to antagonize other commuters in the future. Thinking back, I really regretted not doing more..

 

Of course as a guy, I ought to stand up for myself, but in that very situation where the perpetrator was so persistent even when given stern warning, bursting out at him in public would make me look like the crazy one; resorting to violence would only land me in jail. What would you guys have done in that same situation? What would be the best approach to deal with such people?

 

Even when I was moving around the different cabins trying to get away from him, I didn't see any station staff onboard. 

 

But even if I did find one, what would reporting to them do to the perpetrator? There are no cameras onboard the train, which is where most of the stalking and harassment happened. He did follow me around on the platform as well, but it was only for a short 1-2min because the train arrived and we got in.

 

My only concern is the lack of evidence to convict him of anything, which would only end in embarrassment and time-wasting for me. But I really should've at least tried, than to let him get away without any repercussions.

[fab]

Inform station staff.

 

Call 999.

[Thatguy642]

I was molested at SMU as a secondary school kid. I was at the bus stop and they used to have this shop selling finger food and I used to buy stuff from there when I was waiting for the bus.

 

There was this uncle who was very friendly to me and one day he got all touchy, squeezing my arms at first then touching my chest and stomach through my school uniform. It then proceeded to him feeling my dick and one day he told me that his car was parked nearby and asked whether I’d like to go there for some private time.

 

I guess the reason I didn’t report him was because to be honest I actually kind of liked it. But it was really creepy because I was 15-16 years old (now that I look back on it.)

 

And frankly if that happened to me now as an adult I’d follow him to the car. Oh well. That shop closed after a while. Wonder if that uncle is here haha.

[Sgboy35]

On 9/17/2022 at 1:57 PM, Guest Infuriated said:

Even when I was moving around the different cabins trying to get away from him, I didn't see any station staff onboard. 

 

But even if I did find one, what would reporting to them do to the perpetrator? There are no cameras onboard the train, which is where most of the stalking and harassment happened. He did follow me around on the platform as well, but it was only for a short 1-2min because the train arrived and we got in.

 

My only concern is the lack of evidence to convict him of anything, which would only end in embarrassment and time-wasting for me. But I really should've at least tried, than to let him get away without any repercussions.

Sorry that you went through such an experience. Kudos to you for doing what you did though to get away from him. I doubt I would have even thought of some of your moves if I was in the same situation. 

 

Did anyone else try to step in to help you at all? 

 

With the luxury of time now, I may just go to the gantry and find the staff there, even the guy persists. Just to say that someone is stalking me and I feel unsafe, for someone to step in and put some distance between me and that guy.

[Guest sad]

On 9/18/2022 at 2:35 AM, Sgboy35 said:

Sorry that you went through such an experience. Kudos to you for doing what you did though to get away from him. I doubt I would have even thought of some of your moves if I was in the same situation. 

 

Did anyone else try to step in to help you at all? 

 

With the luxury of time now, I may just go to the gantry and find the staff there, even the guy persists. Just to say that someone is stalking me and I feel unsafe, for someone to step in and put some distance between me and that guy.

The sad truth is, almost no one will take a man saying he feels unsafe from a stalker seriously. And, if anyone does help, it will be more so out of homophobia against the gay stalker than out of willingness to help a man in danger.

 

It's already 2022, and we still see people very commonly advise women "anything, just cry molest" when in conflict with a man. It shows that, on the whole, our society is not ready to accept male victims or female perpetrators when it comes to sexual crimes.

[kidster]

On 9/17/2022 at 1:14 PM, Guest Infuriated said:

Sorry for digging up an old thread, but really needed to vent my frustration.

 

I was taking the train yesterday and ran into a random stranger trying to hit me up with that fking cliché pickup line: "You look familiar, I think we've met before somewhere." He then proceeded to ask me where I used to study, which camp I serve in NS, my age and stuff.

 

I answered only his first question and told him he got the wrong person, but man.. was he relentless. He looked a slight bit mentally unsound too, but little did I expect that he would in public, straight-out ask an inappropriate question. He said he work for Durex and ask me if I know what that is and if I had used it before. I continue to ignore him and he got louder, attracting the attention of other commuters. All this while, he was constantly touching me on my upper arms and shoulder, trying to make other people on the train believe we know each other. 

 

As if saved by the bell, my stop arrived and I quickly rushed off the train, only to realize later that he had followed me. I went to a different platform to catch a transfer train and he crept up behind me, continuing his harassment with the inappropriate questions while trying to put his hands on me again.

 

By then, I was already extremely annoyed by this piece of shit and moved about 3-4 cabins away on the waiting platform, only to helplessly see him followed me all the way there too. After getting onto the train, he approached me once again with his nonsense and I had to move around repeatedly to avoid him. Needless to say, he followed me all the way through.

 

Despite multiple warning to him about not touching me and that I have no interest in what he have to say, he continued with his disturbing shenanigans. Worried that he might follow me all the way home, I waited for people to get off the train and for the doors closing announcement before rushing out of the train. But as it turned out, the door did not close immediately after the announcement maybe because I got off at the last second and triggered the sensor/train operator or something, and the goddamn psycho managed to exit the train as well.

 

I turned around to check and saw him walking towards my direction. By then, I was already pretty stressed-out and just sped my way down the escalator, blending into the crowd making their exit towards the shopping mall, which finally got him off my trail.

 

I was actually genuinely infuriated, not just by the way he acted towards me, but also at how helpless I was in that situation, coupled by the fact that he got away without any penalty, free to antagonize other commuters in the future. Thinking back, I really regretted not doing more..

 

Of course as a guy, I ought to stand up for myself, but in that very situation where the perpetrator was so persistent even when given stern warning, bursting out at him in public would make me look like the crazy one; resorting to violence would only land me in jail. What would you guys have done in that same situation? What would be the best approach to deal with such people?

 

Even when I was moving around the different cabins trying to get away from him, I didn't see any station staff onboard. 

 

But even if I did find one, what would reporting to them do to the perpetrator? There are no cameras onboard the train, which is where most of the stalking and harassment happened. He did follow me around on the platform as well, but it was only for a short 1-2min because the train arrived and we got in.

 

My only concern is the lack of evidence to convict him of anything, which would only end in embarrassment and time-wasting for me. But I really should've at least tried, than to let him get away without any repercussions.

 

Take out your red lanyard and tell him you are a financial planner. lol

[Guest Guest]

On 9/18/2022 at 4:14 AM, Guest sad said:

The sad truth is, almost no one will take a man saying he feels unsafe from a stalker seriously. And, if anyone does help, it will be more so out of homophobia against the gay stalker than out of willingness to help a man in danger.

 

It's already 2022, and we still see people very commonly advise women "anything, just cry molest" when in conflict with a man. It shows that, on the whole, our society is not ready to accept male victims or female perpetrators when it comes to sexual crimes.

A guy (whether straight, gay or bi) kena molested by females …. also can feel traumatized ah? 🤔😰

[LeanMature]

On 9/17/2022 at 1:14 PM, Guest Infuriated said:

Sorry for digging up an old thread, but really needed to vent my frustration.

 

I was taking the train yesterday and ran into a random stranger trying to hit me up with that fking cliché pickup line: "You look familiar, I think we've met before somewhere." He then proceeded to ask me where I used to study, which camp I serve in NS, my age and stuff.

 

I answered only his first question and told him he got the wrong person, but man.. was he relentless. He looked a slight bit mentally unsound too, but little did I expect that he would in public, straight-out ask an inappropriate question. He said he work for Durex and ask me if I know what that is and if I had used it before. I continue to ignore him and he got louder, attracting the attention of other commuters. All this while, he was constantly touching me on my upper arms and shoulder, trying to make other people on the train believe we know each other. 

 

As if saved by the bell, my stop arrived and I quickly rushed off the train, only to realize later that he had followed me. I went to a different platform to catch a transfer train and he crept up behind me, continuing his harassment with the inappropriate questions while trying to put his hands on me again.

 

By then, I was already extremely annoyed by this piece of shit and moved about 3-4 cabins away on the waiting platform, only to helplessly see him followed me all the way there too. After getting onto the train, he approached me once again with his nonsense and I had to move around repeatedly to avoid him. Needless to say, he followed me all the way through.

 

Despite multiple warning to him about not touching me and that I have no interest in what he have to say, he continued with his disturbing shenanigans. Worried that he might follow me all the way home, I waited for people to get off the train and for the doors closing announcement before rushing out of the train. But as it turned out, the door did not close immediately after the announcement maybe because I got off at the last second and triggered the sensor/train operator or something, and the goddamn psycho managed to exit the train as well.

 

I turned around to check and saw him walking towards my direction. By then, I was already pretty stressed-out and just sped my way down the escalator, blending into the crowd making their exit towards the shopping mall, which finally got him off my trail.

 

I was actually genuinely infuriated, not just by the way he acted towards me, but also at how helpless I was in that situation, coupled by the fact that he got away without any penalty, free to antagonize other commuters in the future. Thinking back, I really regretted not doing more..

 

Of course as a guy, I ought to stand up for myself, but in that very situation where the perpetrator was so persistent even when given stern warning, bursting out at him in public would make me look like the crazy one; resorting to violence would only land me in jail. What would you guys have done in that same situation? What would be the best approach to deal with such people?

 

Even when I was moving around the different cabins trying to get away from him, I didn't see any station staff onboard. 

 

But even if I did find one, what would reporting to them do to the perpetrator? There are no cameras onboard the train, which is where most of the stalking and harassment happened. He did follow me around on the platform as well, but it was only for a short 1-2min because the train arrived and we got in.

 

My only concern is the lack of evidence to convict him of anything, which would only end in embarrassment and time-wasting for me. But I really should've at least tried, than to let him get away without any repercussions.

 

Stalking is an offence in Singapore. Section 7 of the Protection from Harassment Act provides “No person shall unlawfully stalk another person”.  Call the police.  

 

On the lighter side, you must be a sweet cute guy that made him so adamant in getting you. 

 

 

 

 

[Andrew240577]

I still remember it start when i am around 13 to 14. Side story first. During my time 32 years ago if you failed your primary school at 3,4. You will get 2 more years extended.

Primary 5. 1 year extended

Primary 6 repeated until you reach 14 and unable to go to secondary.

Skip those.

When i am primary seven. I am kind of shy boy never shirtless at home or school. Beside taking swimming courses.

 

So during a p.e lesson. I forget to bring my p.e attire. P.e teacher kind of force me to attend the p.e lesson shirtless. I am shy all the way shirtless and later i feel great shirtless.

I become a bit weird and feel like wanted to be naked. But too shy to bath naked at public swimming pool toilet.

During my time bedok swimming no covered i usually bath with my swimming short on. Sometime i try to bath naked if only 1 or 2 men there but immeditately cover myself when more men enter.

 

I alway try to jog shirtless at bedok reservoir and one time i jogging until tampines safra and find out there are a bathroom room near the gym. So i alway try to bath naked there. Nothing happen. Until 5 to 10 time trying. Then i found out there are another bathing room near the swimming pool.

I think i age 14 already. Then the first time i try to bath naked there. No cover also. Like ns style. But it under cubicle type there a wall in between each bathing area.

 

I bathing naked there alone no soap no towel. I jogging shirtless from bedok reservoir to safra then bath using water and wipe myself clean using my t shirt.

I doing like this past 10 time in another bathroom.

 

This time same at swimming pool bathroom. Then half way through my bathing a guy age around 20s enter. He start bathing beside me but there a wall blocking between me and him but no door cover for me during bathing.

 

All of a sudden he come to my area and rubbing my dick. I am mad and push his hand away. He walk off back to his bathing area. Then again second and third time. I scold him and shouted. He keep return to his bathing area and back to my area. On the fourth time attack my dick.

 

I walk out of the bathing area. Dry myself using my t shirt. This guy still trying to talk to me but at his bathing area bathing.

 

Then he tell me to watch him masturbating.

I am innocent at that age and dunno what is masturbating.

After i left i jog back to reservoir after resting and some meal.

I recall his masturbating.

I try it at bedok reservoir toilet.

I cum a lot of sperm. It scare the hell out of me that i thought what happen to me.

Hahaha🤣🤣🤣🤣. It a huge load because my first cumming.

 

32 year ago computer still using big floppy disk not small one.

 

Nobody teach me about sex unlike today we can see every on website.

 

So when i cum so much of sperm. It scare me a lot.

 

I do not try to find out what it is. But i find out it is harmless continued doing. And do it many time until i gain some knowledge later on.

 

Ended

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by Andrew240577

[Guest infuriated]

On 9/18/2022 at 2:35 AM, Sgboy35 said:

Sorry that you went through such an experience. Kudos to you for doing what you did though to get away from him. I doubt I would have even thought of some of your moves if I was in the same situation. 

 

Did anyone else try to step in to help you at all? 

 

With the luxury of time now, I may just go to the gantry and find the staff there, even the guy persists. Just to say that someone is stalking me and I feel unsafe, for someone to step in and put some distance between me and that guy.

 

There were maybe 3 or 4 passengers onboard that felt maybe something was going wrong, but all of them just watched from the sidelines. I think most people are too reserved to step forward in this kind of situation, in fear of overstepping their boundaries into what might just be an argument between friends or family members, and I really don't blame them at all. The few that caught on were female passengers too, and I wouldnt expect a girl to pit herself against a mentally unsound guy in that situation. I lift regularly and am quite confident that I can easily put him to the ground if I wanted to, but I would hate to be the next social media viral clip for starting a drama on the train, because I would totally look like the bad guy for throwing punches first. Especially since no one else could hear the inappropriate stuff he was saying to me, as he was only a few inches away from my face the entire time, with his dirty hands on either my shoulder or upper arm.

 

I did think of approaching the station staff after i alighted, but the stalker was smart enough to follow a short distance away, giving him the chance to back away if he sees me approaching the staff for help. He only approaches me when I'm stationary, making it easier for himself to trap me. But that short distance he kept when tailing me is also what gave me the opportunity to slip away from him. What gave me the impression that he was mentally unstable, was the fact that he moves around awkwardly while making loud weird noises when he was ignored, drawing the attention of other commuters, only to come back less than a minute later to touch me and ask inappropriate questions again. To any complete strangers looking at this situation out of context, they might even assume I'm just the caretaker of a mentally handicapped family member.

 

 

On 9/18/2022 at 4:14 AM, Guest sad said:

The sad truth is, almost no one will take a man saying he feels unsafe from a stalker seriously. And, if anyone does help, it will be more so out of homophobia against the gay stalker than out of willingness to help a man in danger.

 

It's already 2022, and we still see people very commonly advise women "anything, just cry molest" when in conflict with a man. It shows that, on the whole, our society is not ready to accept male victims or female perpetrators when it comes to sexual crimes.

 

Exactly. And that is also partially the reason why I was hesitant to make an official report. I'd reckon it would look pretty funny for a grown man like myself to go up to a security or police officer crying molest. Ironically, the law discourage us from taking things into our own hands. It really makes me overthink and question my decisions when stuck in a double whammy situation like that.

 

 

On 9/18/2022 at 10:23 AM, kidster said:

Take out your red lanyard and tell him you are a financial planner. lol

 

I totally would, if i had one.

 

 

On 9/18/2022 at 5:04 PM, LeanMature said:

 

Stalking is an offence in Singapore. Section 7 of the Protection from Harassment Act provides “No person shall unlawfully stalk another person”.  Call the police.  

 

On the lighter side, you must be a sweet cute guy that made him so adamant in getting you.

 

Haha. You flatter me. But are you sure you want to put complete faith in the taste of that creepy psycho stalker? Lols.

 

Yup, I went and read up on the laws concerning that after getting back home. What happened, happened. But at least I'm better equipped to deal with this sort of thing if it ever happens again in the future.

 

Knowing what I know now, I would lure him around the platform and stop at certain designated spots to let the cameras catch him harassing me, so that there is enough evidence when I report it. I just wasn't smart enough to think of that on the fly when caught in that sticky situation.

[1983rophi]

28th May 2024,

Court charged man, 7years jail, for sexual assault with Minor. 

 

WARNING:

 

PREDATORS STILL ROAMING AROUND CLEMENTI. 

 

https://mothership.sg/2024/05/married-man-53-sex-boy-13-jail

 

From Jem, 

 

I admit, 

 

5 years ago, 

 

A Chinese man was outside the MRT toilet, he signalled to me, & escorted me to a toilet & i gave him a blowjob inside a cubicle @ Clementi Mall, it was a 50yo man. 

 

=0(

[Guest Tired]

Please stop all activities at dhoby ghaut MRT toilet. 🙏

[Kimochi]

54 minutes ago, Guest Tired said:

Please stop all activities at dhoby ghaut MRT toilet. 🙏

Police prowling ?? Or somebody got caught or baotoh kia gagagga. 

[singalion]

2 hours ago, Guest Lol said:

 

So this one time I was using urinal, and saw a teenager eyeing my cock. 

He know what he is doing. 

So basically teenager can commit sex crime and get away free. They just need to find an older man as victim. 

How dumb is our law? 

 

 

The law is not dumb. maybe your point is.

 

The law simply protects all minors from sexual activity by an older person above 16y.

 

 

 

Read articles from top to end, then you wouldn't post any such things here!

Quote: "The judge emphasised that the law presumes that a minor lacks sufficient life experience and emotional and intellectual maturity to make appropriate sexual decisions for himself or herself. "

 

Quote from a website explaining the law:

Under Singapore's Penal Code, persons under the age of 16 are unable to give consent to any sexual activity. This means that even if a minor said “yes” to sexual acts, the law still sees it as non-consensual. If the minor is under the age of 14, the law carries a heavier punishment.

 

=> Keep your hands off from any person under the age of 16!

 

=> The law also means that if any minor approaches you, reject any sexual advance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 28, 2024 by singalion

[singalion]

1 hour ago, Kimochi said:

Police prowling ?? Or somebody got caught or baotoh kia gagagga. 

 

have you seen that thread about Doby Ghaut Mrt toilet? The post could be from that banned member.

[Guest Guess]

https://mothership.sg/2024/05/married-man-53-sex-boy-13-jail/

 

Married man, 53, has sex with boy, 13, whom he randomly met outside Clementi toilet, gets more than 7 years' jail

[Guest KL Trip]

This happened during the midnight bus trip that i took from Larkin to KL. The bus was fully packed. The trip went as per normal and everyone in the bus fell asleep by the time the bus was travelling along the highway to KL.

 

Suddenly,  everyone was woken up by shouting commotion in the bus. We were all in a daze and confused by what was going on. We saw an Indian man got up from his seat shouting at the passenger next to him.

 

Apparently we learnt that the Chinese guy was molesting the Indian guy.  The Indian guy was cursing and swearing at the Chinese guy who remained silent. The shouting continued and got worse until the  bus driver stopped the bus at the left side of the highway. The bus driver tried to settle the commotion but the Indian was angry and refused to be seated next to the Chinese. Unfortunately there was no spare seats available.

 

In the end, the bus driver asked  Chinese guy to come down the bus with him and had a chat with him.  We didn't  know what was discussed  but to our shock, the bus driver got back to the bus and closed the bus door at the Chinese guy !! The bus driver drove off and left  the Chinese guy in the middle of the highway !! 

 

I took a glance and saw the stressful look in the Chinese guy as he was left stranded. The Chinese guy was in late twenties to early thirties. The Indian guy was around the same age,  your typical manly hairy Indian guy. The Indian guy was fleshy and average looking and not my cup of tea. I thought the Chinese guy was better looking.  I dunno why the Chinese guy took liking  at the Indian guy and allowed his hands to do the unthinkable.  Perhaps he has an acquired taste on hairy Indian guy. Anyway,  the Chinese guy got what he deserved. 

 

After the commotion,  things went back to normal and we had an undisturbed trip. I wonder how the Chinese guy  continued his trip to KL during the wee hours of the night. 

 

[cutejack]

18 hours ago, Guest KL Trip said:

This happened during the midnight bus trip that i took from Larkin to KL. The bus was fully packed. The trip went as per normal and everyone in the bus fell asleep by the time the bus was travelling along the highway to KL.

 

Suddenly,  everyone was woken up by shouting commotion in the bus. We were all in a daze and confused by what was going on. We saw an Indian man got up from his seat shouting at the passenger next to him.

 

Apparently we learnt that the Chinese guy was molesting the Indian guy.  The Indian guy was cursing and swearing at the Chinese guy who remained silent. The shouting continued and got worse until the  bus driver stopped the bus at the left side of the highway. The bus driver tried to settle the commotion but the Indian was angry and refused to be seated next to the Chinese. Unfortunately there was no spare seats available.

 

In the end, the bus driver asked  Chinese guy to come down the bus with him and had a chat with him.  We didn't  know what was discussed  but to our shock, the bus driver got back to the bus and closed the bus door at the Chinese guy !! The bus driver drove off and left  the Chinese guy in the middle of the highway !! 

 

I took a glance and saw the stressful look in the Chinese guy as he was left stranded. The Chinese guy was in late twenties to early thirties. The Indian guy was around the same age,  your typical manly hairy Indian guy. The Indian guy was fleshy and average looking and not my cup of tea. I thought the Chinese guy was better looking.  I dunno why the Chinese guy took liking  at the Indian guy and allowed his hands to do the unthinkable.  Perhaps he has an acquired taste on hairy Indian guy. Anyway,  the Chinese guy got what he deserved. 

 

After the commotion,  things went back to normal and we had an undisturbed trip. I wonder how the Chinese guy  continued his trip to KL during the wee hours of the night. 

 

So bad. Could have let the Chinese guy sit at the staircase or near the driver. Y must just let him down like that. Pity him ley. The Indian guy too str8 is it. Haizzz...

[tyan]

3 hours ago, cutejack said:

So bad. Could have let the Chinese guy sit at the staircase or near the driver. Y must just let him down like that. Pity him ley. The Indian guy too str8 is it. Haizzz...

Maybe that Chinese guy has some kind of fetish. 

[singalion]

22 hours ago, Guest KL Trip said:

This happened during the midnight bus trip that i took from Larkin to KL. The bus was fully packed. The trip went as per normal and everyone in the bus fell asleep by the time the bus was travelling along the highway to KL.

 

Suddenly,  everyone was woken up by shouting commotion in the bus. We were all in a daze and confused by what was going on. We saw an Indian man got up from his seat shouting at the passenger next to him.

 

Apparently we learnt that the Chinese guy was molesting the Indian guy.  The Indian guy was cursing and swearing at the Chinese guy who remained silent. The shouting continued and got worse until the  bus driver stopped the bus at the left side of the highway. The bus driver tried to settle the commotion but the Indian was angry and refused to be seated next to the Chinese. Unfortunately there was no spare seats available.

 

In the end, the bus driver asked  Chinese guy to come down the bus with him and had a chat with him.  We didn't  know what was discussed  but to our shock, the bus driver got back to the bus and closed the bus door at the Chinese guy !! The bus driver drove off and left  the Chinese guy in the middle of the highway !! 

 

I took a glance and saw the stressful look in the Chinese guy as he was left stranded. The Chinese guy was in late twenties to early thirties. The Indian guy was around the same age,  your typical manly hairy Indian guy. The Indian guy was fleshy and average looking and not my cup of tea. I thought the Chinese guy was better looking.  I dunno why the Chinese guy took liking  at the Indian guy and allowed his hands to do the unthinkable.  Perhaps he has an acquired taste on hairy Indian guy. Anyway,  the Chinese guy got what he deserved. 

 

After the commotion,  things went back to normal and we had an undisturbed trip. I wonder how the Chinese guy  continued his trip to KL during the wee hours of the night. 

 

 

Initially, I predicted the story to continue that you had offered your seat to the Indian guy and you sat next to the Chinese guy...

 

 

When the driver took the Chinese out of the bus, I thought they would walk into the palm oil plantation and the Chinese sucking the driver's dick as punishment...

 

Lastly, I think a lorry driver picked the Chinese at the highway and sucked the lorry driver 3 times during the trip to KL...