Foreign / Overseas LGBT News - Gay News Outside Singapore (Compiled)

[Alponsu]

I think it is admirable that celebrities are speaking up. It may seem like blowing hot air but at least they are making whatever impact they can and whoever fans they can influence. It is much better than keeping silent on this. 

[Guest Guest]

25 minutes ago, Alponsu said:

I think it is admirable that celebrities are speaking up. It may seem like blowing hot air but at least they are making whatever impact they can and whoever fans they can influence. It is much better than keeping silent on this. 

 

think so too. especially those not being gay.

We should be thankful and not bashing those straight who defend and support

[Steve5380]

On 3/30/2019 at 8:29 PM, Letsrelaxpp said:

Back to the topic,  this rule is not going to apply to tourist and is not even going to affect sporean,  so just relax and take it easy as there is nothing much u could do too. 

 

Why you care if it is not "even" affect Singaporeans?

You don't think that every human should care if this is done to a fellow human?

And good people care if such an abomination is done to animals.

 

I would like to see the UN making a resolution to charge the leaders of Brunei with "crimes against humanity" as soon as they stone the first person.

And in response, the nations that honor civil rights should all negate visas to these leaders of Brunei, if not to all the Brunei population,  and let's see how they like this and for how long!

 

On 3/30/2019 at 10:58 PM, Letsrelaxpp said:

Cos they are celebrity,  one, they have to say something and two when they say something,  people listen.

 

WHY celebrities have to say something about stoning gays and adulterers?

WHY the Islamic religious organizations don't condemn such acts?

By not condemning the atrocities in their shariah laws they automatically become accomplices.

[Guest travel]

On 3/31/2019 at 9:29 AM, Letsrelaxpp said:

Back to the topic,  this rule is not going to apply to tourist and is not even going to affect sporean,  so just relax and take it easy as there is nothing much u could do too. 

 

Sorry, but your point is a bit wrong! Singapore has about 15% Muslims.

The law applies to all Muslims and not just only to the citizen of Brunei.

As Singaporean Muslim would prefer traveling to regions where they can expect Halal meals, Brunei for sure would have been a tourist destination for Singaporean Malays.

 

The tourists from Singapore according to the Brunei statistics are roughly 219,000 per year and of this roughly 12,000 to 16,000 Singaporeans per year. (Brunei only reflected quarterly numbers and due to time constraints I took an average of Singaporean visitors added up to a year).

 

The new law will have implications on gay Muslims from Singapore traveling to this country.

 

You can't outright say the law is not going to have affect on Singaporean.

[Guest travel]

On 3/31/2019 at 9:29 AM, Letsrelaxpp said:

Back to the topic,  this rule is not going to apply to tourist and is not even going to affect sporean,  so just relax and take it easy as there is nothing much u could do too. 

 

Edited. there was a little error in the post above.

 

Sorry, but your point is a bit wrong! Singapore has about 15% Muslims.

The law applies to all Muslims and not just only to the citizen of Brunei.

As Singaporean Muslim would prefer traveling to regions where they can expect Halal meals, Brunei for sure would have been a tourist destination for Singaporean Malays.

 

The tourists visiting Brunei according to the Brunei statistics are roughly 219,000 per year and of this roughly 12,000 to 16,000 Singaporeans per year. (Brunei only reflected quarterly numbers and due to time constraints I took an average of Singaporean visitors added up to a year).

 

The new law will have implications on gay Muslims from Singapore traveling to this country.

 

You can't outright say the law is not going to have affect on Singaporean.

[Guest travel]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

I would like to see the UN making a resolution to charge the leaders of Brunei with "crimes against humanity" as soon as they stone the first person.

And in response, the nations that honor civil rights should all negate visas to these leaders of Brunei, if not to all the Brunei population,  and let's see how they like this and for how long!

 

 

WHY celebrities have to say something about stoning gays and adulterers?

WHY the Islamic religious organizations don't condemn such acts?

By not condemning the atrocities in their shariah laws they automatically become accomplices.

 

Because they will end up in a hot bed. You just look what is happening in many Muslim countries: Those who speak out and even doubt that some "laws" don't derive from the Quran are silenced out or even killed. Unfortunately, as this religion never went through any "Reformation" as most of the other religions it is very difficult to get things discussed in public.

The problem is that all seems very much set in stone. People who dare to speak out are condemned by the others.

 

I can only predict such will happen if many well known Muslim clerics from many countries come together to modernize the Islam. But so far there is no real initiative towards any such "improvement".  Otherwise you can wait for centuries.

 

Which leads to the conclusion: Only countries that separate politics from religion can manage to escape from such situation (secular countries).

 

United Nations:

As to my humble knowledge the UN would need a majority resolution to condemn such acts, which is near to impossible to reach. 30 % of the nations will keep quiet because of various reasons.

 

Did the US support the resolution to condemn Saudi Arabia on the killing of Kashoggy?

 

[lonelyglobe]

48 minutes ago, Guest travel said:

 

Edited. there was a little error in the post above.

 

Sorry, but your point is a bit wrong! Singapore has about 15% Muslims.

The law applies to all Muslims and not just only to the citizen of Brunei.

As Singaporean Muslim would prefer traveling to regions where they can expect Halal meals, Brunei for sure would have been a tourist destination for Singaporean Malays.

 

The tourists visiting Brunei according to the Brunei statistics are roughly 219,000 per year and of this roughly 12,000 to 16,000 Singaporeans per year. (Brunei only reflected quarterly numbers and due to time constraints I took an average of Singaporean visitors added up to a year).

 

The new law will have implications on gay Muslims from Singapore traveling to this country.

 

You can't outright say the law is not going to have affect on Singaporean.

Why would gay muslim want to go there and get themselves into trouble?

Gay should go philipines or thailand especially southern part where they can easily find hala food due to the large muslim community there.

There are many other muslim countries nearby like malaysia and indonesia. If they want go further, can go middle east but there again is also a region u dont want to play around, advice is play all u want in sg before travel out and once out there, behave and follow the local laws.

[Guest travel]

1 hour ago, lonelyglobe said:

Why would gay muslim want to go there and get themselves into trouble?

Gay should go philipines or thailand especially southern part where they can easily find hala food due to the large muslim community there.

There are many other muslim countries nearby like malaysia and indonesia. If they want go further, can go middle east but there again is also a region u dont want to play around, advice is play all u want in sg before travel out and once out there, behave and follow the local laws.

 

I was simply refuting the earlier claim that the change "is not going to affect Singaporeans" which was made by #letsrelaxapp.

 

I m sure as long as Malay or other muslim Singaporeans felt safe, why wouldn't they travelled to Brunei? Therefore, you can't just say it has no affect on Singaporeans. #Letsrelaxapp left out the Muslims from Singapore when he just brushed off as the stoning won't have any affect on Singaporeans.

How if a Malay gay couple win a Lucky draw with first prize staying at Jeffri's famous hotel? ha ha

 

Your only "play" in Singapore seems quite unrealistic. If I read the travel threads at Blowing Wind, it doesn't seem that the guys just travel for spending time at a nice beach or shopping and not at all trying out the local "flavours".

 

Yes, sure you are right that the local gay Muslims are advised to travel to "safe" countries.

I would not consider "the southern part of the Philippines" as a safe location.

But the initial statement of #Letsrelaxapp was a bit too hastily written down without considering the Singaporean population make up...

[SuperSentai]

 

[Dart]

The poem "First they came" written by a German Pastor Martin Niemoller: 

First they came for the socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

Singapore is a small island nation in the midst of the vast Malay Archipelago namely Malaysia and Indonesia which a large number of these populations have been infiltrated with toxic doctrine spread from desert land. Many of these zombies hold important positions of authority which they made to include the whole nation. This imported ideology has injected hate into the arteries of an otherwise simple and friendly race. Among its many callings is to annihilate gay men because we are perceived to have committed a grievous sin even surpasses murder! Scripturally, we are the ones who could shake the throne of their "God". Wow! We are really something!

 

Singapore was homophobic but because its government is more based on neutral ground and the strict prohibition of any form of extremism have potentialized the opening up and reconciliation between the general public and the sexual minorities . At least, it has no place for the toxic law here. Moreover, thanks to the recognitive statement made by the late Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew.

 

Nevertheless, Singapore will be influenced by its neighbours simply because it cannot stand alone in this region. And guess what? You people will also be affected. So let your voices be heard and continue your support for your brothers who do not choose to be borned in those nations. By doing so, you have indirectly helped yourselves.

Edited April 3, 2019 by Dart

[Guest Thomas Didymuz Toh]

Should urge all Aj sisters to stop travelling to Brunei and to ban all Brunei products and services! 

 

Let them know what pink dollar economy like 

[Guest Guest]

16 minutes ago, Guest Thomas Didymuz Toh said:

Should urge all Aj sisters to stop travelling to Brunei and to ban all Brunei products and services! 

 

Let them know what pink dollar economy like 

I fully support! My family and I will boycott Brunei and we will not travel to Brunei and boycott Brunei untill they get rid of that law!

 

My family and I will also boycott the hotels and restaurants own by the sultan of brunei and they are:

 

• The Dorchester, London
• 45 Park Lane, London
• Coworth Park, UK
• The Beverly Hills Hotel, Beverly Hills
• Hotel Bel-Air, Los Angeles
• Le Meurice, Paris
• Hotel Plaza Athenee, Paris
• Hotel Eden, Rome
• Hotel Principe di Savoia, Milan

I strongly urge all BWers to stop your patronage of the above establishments with immediate effect and stop all travels to brunei!

[Guest Sad]

ST News - 4 Apr 2019 - The worst countries in the world to be LGBT+

 

LONDON (REUTERS) - Brunei has sparked global criticism for saying it will implement syariah law this week, allowing homosexuality to be punishable by stoning to death.

The move will make it the seventh country to impose the death penalty for same-sex relationships, according to the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association (ILGA). Many more criminalise homosexuality.

 

Here are some of the world's worst countries to be LGBT+:

1. Six United Nations member states already impose the death penalty for consensual same-sex acts - Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Nigeria, Sudan and Somalia. Mauritanian law allows for a sentence of death by stoning, but the country has a de facto moratorium on capital punishment.

 

2. Sodomy and other same-sex acts are banned in Malaysia under Islamic law. Last year, two women found guilty were punished by caning in a case that sparked a global outcry.

 

3. Russia introduced a wide-ranging law banning gay "propaganda" to minors in 2013 as President Vladimir Putin pursued an increasingly conservative social agenda. Human rights groups say the law has fuelled attacks on homosexuals.

 

4. Sodomy has long been punishable by jail in Nigeria, but a law passed in 2014 went further, banning gay marriage, same-sex "amorous relationships" and membership of gay rights groups.

 

5. Japan forces transgender people to undergo sterilisation before their new gender can be legally recognised.

 

6. In Azerbaijan, same-sex marriage and same-sex adoption are illegal. In 2017, LGBT+ people were subjected to a police crackdown that saw gay men tortured and beaten, according to rights groups.

 

7. Gay sex is punishable by up to 30 years in jail in Tanzania. A conviction could lead to a jail sentence of up to 30 years.

 

8. The United States has moved to roll back protections for LGBT+ people under President Donald Trump, whose administration also hopes to bar many trans people from serving in the military.

 

9. Gay couples face being whipped in the conservative Indonesian province of Aceh, while harassment of people who identify as LGBT is also on the rise in other parts of the country.

[Guest Guest]

23 hours ago, Dart said:

The poem "First they came" written by a German Pastor Martin Niemoller: 

First they came for the socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

Singapore is a small island nation in the midst of the vast Malay Archipelago namely Malaysia and Indonesia which a large number of these populations have been infiltrated with toxic doctrine spread from desert land. Many of these zombies hold important positions of authority which they made to include the whole nation. This imported ideology has injected hate into the arteries of an otherwise simple and friendly race. Among its many callings is to annihilate gay men because we are perceived to have committed a grievous sin even surpasses murder! Scripturally, we are the ones who could shake the throne of their "God". Wow! We are really something!

 

Singapore was homophobic but because its government is more based on neutral ground and the strict prohibition of any form of extremism have potentialized the opening up and reconciliation between the general public and the sexual minorities . At least, it has no place for the toxic law here. Moreover, thanks to the recognitive statement made by the late Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew.

 

Nevertheless, Singapore will be influenced by its neighbours simply because it cannot stand alone in this region. And guess what? You people will also be affected. So let your voices be heard and continue your support for your brothers who do not choose to be borned in those nations. By doing so, you have indirectly helped yourselves.

Maybe LKY changed his stance because of a gay member of the family?

 

But he didn't do much more to remove the discrimination.

 

In fact, found his speech was at the same time as he gave up his strict stance against gambling.

With China rising at that time his speech may be seen in the context of the bad shape of Singapore's economy... and nothing more.

[Guest Blank]

Well, what do you expect from Muslim countries? LGBT friendly?

 

 

[Guest Sad]

5 hours ago, Guest Blank said:

Well, what do you expect from Muslim countries? LGBT friendly?

 

 

Didn't know Russia is a Muslim country.. wa, something new..

[Guest guest]

Hollywood celebrities blowing hot air.

 

Hot air is like wet farts, a dime a dozen.

 

It is not going to make theocratic states change their stance.

 

 

 

 

 

[HydroNaut]

Please change the topic a bit...it can be quite misleading....

Brunei is imposing laws on all gays alike - same sex relationships. That is not solely just gay sex. Which means if you hold hands with your bf in public or caught smooching one another you are punishable by death. That is absurb and infuriating!

 

[fab]

I refused to buy a box of made in Brunei chocolate cookies last night.

 

Even tho it was on offer.

Edited April 5, 2019 by fab

[HydroNaut]

What i can see....one profession will be very hard to be in Brunei.... Fashion Designer. If you wear too outlandish like wear a skort.... they will stone you to death. If you speak too femininely they also stone you to death. If you realise....good fashion designers are always feminine and gay as they always need to "feel" like a women when designing dress for their gender and not forgetting thus most are gays too. Lol....

[Guest guest]

19 minutes ago, fab said:

I refused to buy a box made in Brunei chocolate cookies last night.

 

Even tho it was on offer.

 

what is a box of chocolate cookies when the patriach is one of the richest monarchs in the world and the country has vast amount of petrodollars,  and money invested for returns, 

 

it is one of the hig highest pee capita richest country, everyone is well taken care of from cradle to grave and so much more.

 

what is a box of cookies, 

 

who knows it is like excess money that dont know what to do therefore invesr in money losing business also theocratic country can also afford maybe, 

 

you think i say its true?

 

 

 

[fab]

I think

 

Penny and penny laid up will be many

Many a little (or pickle) makes a mickle

Economy in trifles ensures abundance;from small increments comes abundance

 

it's the effort that counts.

[Nwest]

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/bruneiowned-hotels-forced-to-shut-down-social-media-accounts/news-story/4b4e74081a43a9194ff93a35f2198c12

[Nwest]

Virgin Australia cut ‘staff travel’ ties with Brunei’s national airline

As the world reels from Brunei’s implementation of brutal Sharia law, Virgin Australia has axed its arrangement with its national airline.

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Virgin Australia and STA Travel have severed arrangements with Brunei’s national airline as the country imposes harsh new sharia laws, including death by stoning for gay sex.

Brunei is facing swift international backlash after it introduced ancient Islamic criminal laws on Wednesday, which also impose the death penalty for adulterers and amputation of hands and feet for thieves.

The laws apply to Muslims, non-Muslim and foreigners — even those who are transiting on aircraft and vessels registered in Brunei.

In light of the harsh laws, Virgin Australia informed staff by email it was ending a staff leisure travel arrangement with Royal Brunei Airlines.

“Given the harsh (including death) penalties being introduced for activity that is legal and acceptable in Australia, the myID (staff travel) agreement between Virgin Australia and Royal Brunei has now been terminated effective immediately,” the company said in the email.

A Virgin Australia spokeswoman told news.com.au the staff leisure travel agreement “was for the sole purpose of employee leisure travel benefits only”.

There are calls for Royal Brunei Airlines to no longer be allowed to land in Australia.Source:News Limited

“Virgin Australia does not sell seats on Royal Brunei,” a statement from the airline said.

“Under a separate interline ticketing agreement, Royal Brunei sells seats available on Virgin Australia aircraft for select routes within Australia. There is no change to this particular agreement.”

The Australian reported Qantas, which has interline agreements and staff travel arrangements with Royal Brunei, has not made any changes in response to Brunei’s new criminal laws.

News.com.au has contacted Qantas for comment.

On Friday STA Travel said it would no longer sell flights with Royal Brunei Airlines.

“At STA Travel, we are really proud of our open and diverse culture, and we fully expect all our partners to demonstrate and uphold these same values. We categorically don’t support the laws that have recently been introduced in Brunei (including on Brunei-registered aircrafts and vessels) which we believe are in direct contravention of basic human rights,” Australian Country Manager Monika Rieker.

“We can’t do much to change laws, but we can add our voice to a campaign that we believe in. Gender and sexuality diversity are a natural part of life, so of course we think sentencing people to death for their sexuality is abhorrent, which is why we’ve backed the Brunei boycott.”

STA Travel is also offering full refunds to customers who have bought Royal Brunei tickets through it, and no longer want to fly with the airline.

While the Australian Government has not changed its travel advice to Brunei — which remains at “exercise normal safety precautions” — it is being urged to revoke landing rights to Royal Brunei Airlines.

The tough new laws apply to Muslim people, non-Muslims and foreigners. Picture: AFPSource:AFP

“The penal code applies to all those who board a Brunei-registered aircraft even when in Australia,” the Victorian Gay and Lesbian Rights Lobby said.

“(It) will allow for inhumane and cruel punishments for queer people, such as death by stoning for consensual acts between same-sex adults.”

The lobby group is also calling on Melbourne Airport, which is the only Australian airport with regular Royal Brunei flights, to stop accepting the carrier and for travel agents to stop selling its flights.

Virgin Australia has responded swiftly to Brunei’s brutal new criminal code. Picture: Brendon Thorne/BloombergSource:Supplied

Melbourne Airport chief executive Lyell Strambi said Brunei’s new laws were “extremely confronting” but said aviation access rights were a matter for the federal government, AAP reported.

Foreign Minister Marise Payne said Australia had raised concerns with the Brunei government over the new penal code.

“We absolutely oppose the death penalty and are committed to the rights of LGBTI people. We will continue to advocate for human rights in the region and beyond,” she tweeted.

Ms Payne later said it was up to individuals to decide what airline to fly with.

Benjamin Ryberg, director of research at US non-profit group The Lawfare Project, said tourism in Brunei was likely to take a big hit.

This is despite marketing materials being issued by Brunei’s tourism arm in a reinvigorated push to draw tourists to the tiny, oil-rich monarchy, Fox News reports.

Brunei’s tough new laws are now in effect. Picture: AFPSource:AFP

“There is much speculation that tourism will suffer,” Mr Ryberg told Fox News.

“Already an Australian lobby group is pressing the government to revoke Royal Brunei Airlines’ landing rights in Australia, calling on Melbourne Airport to halt the acceptance of flights from Royal Brunei and for travel agents to stop selling the airline’s flights.”

Brunei’s tough new penal code makes it the first country in Southeast and East Asia to have sharia penal law at the national level, joining countries such as Saudi Arabia which is well known for its strict Islamic laws.

Under the laws, rape and robbery are also punishable by death, as is insulting the Prophet Mohammed.

The United Nations labelled the laws a “clear violation” of human rights.

[Guest guest]

why would airline staff of other airlines want to book staff travel tickets on RBA when it is well known airline fact that RBA is a not always on time but always delay airlines and flights have been known to be delayed for 3, 4 , 5 hours in order that any VIP from elite ruling family can hold back the flight and make every other passenger wait ar the tarmac for the very impt VIP fron the elite ruling family to board with their entourage and endless luggage...

 

you can read this on internet, 

aftee all the elite family owns everything in the country including , the airlines , the planes, the u n ifirms, the airport, the tarmac, the petrol, the fuel, everything rhey own.

 

how to complain.

 

No inter airline staff travel will be so stupid to fly RBA.

[lonelyglobe]

1 hour ago, Guest guest said:

 

what is a box of chocolate cookies when the patriach is one of the richest monarchs in the world and the country has vast amount of petrodollars,  and money invested for returns, 

 

it is one of the hig highest pee capita richest country, everyone is well taken care of from cradle to grave and so much more.

 

what is a box of cookies, 

 

who knows it is like excess money that dont know what to do therefore invesr in money losing business also theocratic country can also afford maybe, 

 

you think i say its true?

 

 

 

Yap...it wont make any different to their economy but is more of having a personal stand....just like when someone stay in amk or tp and give their vote to the opposition knowing that they simply have no chance at all to win but yes, they make their stand through their vote.

[Beaveheart]

Proximity aside and regardless which country's law that is, knowing such law exist do create a blow on people, if you are humane, just the thought of it is disturbing.
Being LGBTs, in any race, “language” or religion, we know from our heart that just by our sexual preferences do not make us anything evil nor cruel. Our thoughts naturally will go to those who are affected by this harsh order, we feel for them, our hearts go to them who are suffering under such threat, if all they ever do to get charged is loving another person of the same sex.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Beaveheart

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

Yap...it wont make any different to their economy but is more of having a personal stand....just like when someone stay in amk or tp and give their vote to the opposition knowing that they simply have no chance at all to win but yes, they make their stand through their vote.

 

It would make a difference, if there had been (or will be) a concerted action by many countries (not buying oil from Brunei). And for Singapore, they wouldn't interfere.

 

Never visited Brunei, had a plan some years back. Found the flight costs to high and nothing much to do.

Easier to go to Sarawak or Sabah in Malaysia...

Now, I won't travel to Brunei and try to boycott any products or anything.

 

They should put up a real list what the Sultan of Brunei is owning overseas and in what companies Brunei is holding shares.

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

It would make a difference, if there had been (or will be) a concerted action by many countries (not buying oil from Brunei). And for Singapore, they wouldn't interfere.

 

Never visited Brunei, had a plan some years back. Found the flight costs to high and nothing much to do.

Easier to go to Sarawak or Sabah in Malaysia...

Now, I won't travel to Brunei and try to boycott any products or anything.

 

They should put up a real list what the Sultan of Brunei is owning overseas and in what companies Brunei is holding shares.

To all drivers...please ask the cashier at the petrol station where does their oil come from..if its brom brunei, please boycott that station! My family and I will not buy oil from brunei or travel there! 

 

#BoycottBrunei #IStandWithYou #Solidarity #EqualRights

[Steve5380]

The implementation of shariah law in Brunei should revive the need to eliminate shariah law altogether.

The Islamic religion stands guilty of not having removed this abomination on its own, cleaned up their act.

 

In my country the USA several states have declared shariah law illegal, but this should be done by all states, if not by the federal government.

There are only a few nations that implement shariah law, like fifteen,  out of over a hundred nations.

So it should not be impossible to get the United Nations to criminalize shariah law.

 

Hopefully Brunei can become the catalyst for this to happen.

[Cube3]

So happy that Deutsche Bank also boycott RB hotels for its business and staff...

[Guest Guest]

For my upcoming trip to Paris, I will not be shortlisting Le Meurice owned by Brunei for my hotel.

 

I will be selecting an internationally known brand like Ibis instead of an unknown hotel call Le Meurice...slultan of brunei no class.

[fab]

On 4/5/2019 at 1:43 PM, Guest guest said:

 

what is a box of chocolate cookies when the patriach is one of the richest monarchs in the world and the country has vast amount of petrodollars,  and money invested for returns, 

 

it is one of the hig highest pee capita richest country, everyone is well taken care of from cradle to grave and so much more.

 

what is a box of cookies, 

 

who knows it is like excess money that dont know what to do therefore invesr in money losing business also theocratic country can also afford maybe, 

 

you think i say its true?

 

 

 

 

So in your opinion, we should all just sit back, not do anything and allow this inhumane barbarian act to continue?

[Guest blue]

I will stop using blue and nine in my everyday life as a way to boycott Brunei. 

[Guest guest]

All we need to do is wait until all their fossil fuel riches run out , then there will be discontentment.

 

ALL the world of censure and sanctions will do no good at all, 

 

When it is an insular country that everyone is well taken care of, all around health welfare, housing welfare and most of popln working in the civil service  is loyal to the leader and the golden goose that keeps laying golden eggs. 

 

What is there to be unhappy about.

 

Anyone who wants to eat forbidden fruits just cross over border to Malaysia or Indonesia , like crossing causeway like that, 

 A simple crossing of border then can taste all kinds of forbidden fruits , alcohol lah, virgin girls lah, boi boi lah, gambling lah, 

 

When got money can buy anything one, it isban eternal fact . 

 

Brunei dollar 1 to 3 exchange in msia.

 

Just like their middle east friends ,go to dubai for russian pros, go to egypt for all kinds of pleasures at the red sea resorts, go to Malaysia K.L. bukit bintang for anything money can buy, 

 

 

[Dan 28]

Maybe , they are telling the world it is ok to be homophobic and Islamphobic as well 

Edited April 6, 2019 by Dan 28

[Guest ghost]

Can the person stoned to death come back as a ghost and haunt him throughout his life. Scare him every night or maybe possess him and then have sex with another guy in public. 

[Guest No Grace Land]

Islamphobic is often caused by muslim people around the world. Sorry, I am frank here.  If Islam is to be respected, they should respect that innocent life is precious and even such "warped" law is targeting their own muslim people.

[Guest guest]

Is brunei a pee sai sized country punching above its weight.?

[Guest Thomas Didymuz Toh]

Is Royal Plaza on Scotts and the Carousel buffet owned by Brunei?

[GachiMuchi]

Perez Hilton alleged Sultan of Brunei's son Abdul Azim is gay in bombshell video claim

Bombshell claims made by Perez Hilton in light of the country's new laws punishing homosexuality with death suggest that Prince Abdul Azim is gay.

     

 

 

The new Islamic criminal laws that came into effect in Brunei on Wednesday, April 3, meant those found guilty of male and female homosexuality or adultery could now be stoned to death.

Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah had initially announced the imposition of the penal code from Sharia Law on the country's Muslims in 2013, with the recent move being phase 3 of its implementation.

The new laws also apply to children and foreigners, even if they are not Muslim, and mean those found guilty of having gay sex can be stoned to death or whipped. While the announcement was greeted with criticism from the international community, dissent has been brewing within the country as well.

Azim might find himself back in the spotlight (Source: David M. Benett/Dave Benett/Getty Images)

 

"Living in Brunei, we already knew that our sexual identity is taboo and should not be expressed. We already felt belittled before the law came to place," a 23-year-old member of the LGBTQ community who did not want to be identified for obvious reasons told AP. "Now with it, we feel even smaller and the ones who could potentially oppress us have more opportunity to harass us to say and do what they want."

But the new laws could very well mean that the Sultan will have to dole out the fatal punishment to his near-and-dear ones too. While tales of the hedonistic lifestyles led by him and his brother, Jefri Bolkiah, are widespread — if witness accounts are to be believed, both are adulterers as well — it's his son, Prince Abdul Azim, who is already the most well-known of the princes and a paparazzi favorite, who might find himself in the uncomfortable spotlight soon. 

According to Newsweek, Azim, 36, who is fourth in line to the throne of Brunei, regularly hangs out with prominent members of the queer community. In fact, during his birthday party in August 2016, openly-gay skier Gus Kenworthy was in attendance with his boyfriend Matthew Wilkas. Also present at the bash was Caitlyn Jenner, who is arguably the most famous transgender person in the world. The trio even uploaded a picture of them hanging out together at the party on social media, only to quickly delete it after other members of the LGBTQ community lashed out at them for going to the country.

 

Perez Hilton claims that Azim is gay (Source: Getty Images)

 

Furthermore, Azim has also been seen around with Mariah Carey. They were snapped together on the Noble Gift Gala's red carpet in December 2011 and the latter was present for the prince's 30th birthday party in 2012, where she once again posed for a picture with him.

Carey is a vocal supporter of the LGBTQ community and even thanked them for their "unconditional love" during her acceptance speech for the Ally Award at 2016's GLAAD Media Awards.

While association with LGBTQ people in itself is not a crime, Perez Hilton has come out to claim that the Prince doesn't just hang around with queer people, and that he is gay himself. Hilton made the claim in a bombshell video he posted recently criticizing Brunei's recent changes in the law.

"Y'all know I don't out people anymore," he said. "I used to do that back in the day but I'm making an exception here. I'm guessing the Sultan of Brunei doesn't know that his son, Prince Azim, is a big old homo. I would know because I have spent time with Prince Azim."

"It's so hypocritical this guy's son is a big flamer, and now he's enacted a law to stone to death gay men," he added. 

Watch Hilton making the claim here:

 

 

 

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[LeanMature]

Why boycott Brunei and not Saudi Arabia ?  Double western standard.

[Steve5380]

I wish the US could find a reason to invade Brunei and squash that infamous sultan and his cronies like a bunch of cockroaches.

 

It did this to Panama in 1989 and removed this drug lord dictator Noriega.   It did it to Grenada in 1983 and restored democracy there.

[Steve5380]

Since three US presidential elections back,  Barack Obama has become THE role model for Black America and Blacks worldwide.

Hopefully, this next election will give rise to THE gay role model,  "Mayor Pete".

 

I am increasingly impressed by what this man has accomplished so far in his short life (from my perspective, haha).  And it seems to impress even his strongest opponents. What is also interesting is that nobody seems to argue his being gay!  And how can they?  A brave war veteran,  a married person,  a first class intellectual, and much more...

Also impressive is how fluid and sensible he speaks, a perfect match for the political pundits who interrogate him in interviews. I find that he repeats himself a lot, sign that he has well rehearsed his words, but even this is a plus.  Here is a recent article about him:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/it-got-real-gay-real-quick-america-deals-with-a-new-kind-of-candidate/2019/04/05/76649c56-5191-11e9-a3f7-78b7525a8d5f_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.00a24816b936 

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Edited April 7, 2019 by Steve5380

[Guest Happyforthem]

 

US woman says carrying her gay son's baby was her gift

 

Matthew Eledge and Elliott Dougherty (second and third from right respectively) looking at their daughter after Matthew's mother, Cecile, gave birth, on March 25, 2019.PHOTO: REUTERS

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SACREMENTO, UNITED STATES (REUTERS) - When Cecile Eledge offered to carry a baby for her adult son and his husband, they thought she was kidding - and that her doctors in the family's Nebraska hometown would balk at a 61-year-old woman serving as a surrogate for a gay couple.

But two weeks ago the entire family - along with proud doctors - beamed as Uma Louise Dougherty came into the world at the Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. Grandmother and baby are both healthy - and Uma was delivered the old-fashioned way.

The circumstances of Uma's birth are a testament to changing social mores as well as the dramatic advances in senior health made by modern medicine and healthy lifestyles.

"I wanted to do it as a gift from a mother to her son," Cecile Eledge said.

News of Uma's conception, delivery and birth made headlines across the globe. On social media, the family was inundated with messages - most of them positive but some extremely angry and negative, Matthew Eledge said.

"People from all around the world have been reaching out," Matthew Eledge said. "They want to help in any way that they can."

 

 

 

The family is trying to ignore the negative reactions - the people who wrongly think that Matthew had sex with his own mother to produce the baby, or who leave homophobic remarks.

 

 

Cecile Eledge kisses baby Uma after giving birth to her as surrogate for her son Matthew Eledge and his partner Elliott Dougherty. PHOTO: REUTERS

 

When they set out to start their family, Matthew Eledge and Elliott Dougherty were already aware of the toll that prejudice could take. In 2015, Matthew Eledge had lost his job as a teacher at a Catholic school after the pair announced they would be married.

That led to concerns that they would be denied permission to adopt a baby in their conservative home state. So they decided to try in vitro fertilisation with a donated egg and a surrogate to carry the fetus.

To their delight, Dougherty's sister, Lea Yribe, offered to donate her eggs. The eggs were fertilised with sperm from Matthew Eledge, giving Uma genetic material from both sides of the family.

 

The men jokingly told their IVF doctor that Matthew Eledge's mother had offered to be the surrogate - even though she was at that point 59 and had gone through menopause.

"Matt would comically say, 'Well my mum keeps offering but we know that's not an option,'" Cecile Eledge said.

But the doctors, Matthew Eledge said, just wanted to know if his mum was healthy - and if she still had her uterus. After testing to make sure that Cecile Eledge's body could tolerate the pregnancy, the embryo that would become Uma was implanted.

Dr Carl Smith, a specialist in maternal and fetal medicine at the medical centre, said Cecile Eledge was healthy and fit, and looked years younger than her age. Among possible complications for older mothers are gestational diabetes and high blood pressure, and the team watched her health carefully, viewing the pregnancy as high-risk.

Cecile Eledge took estrogen supplements for the first part of the pregnancy, Smith said, until the placenta holding Uma was able to make hormones of its own.

The politics of helping a gay couple and the unusual choice of a grandmother for a surrogate did not deter the team, Smith said.

"We never gave that a second thought," Smith said. "She was pregnant and the circumstances of how she got pregnant are between her and her family."

 

[Steve5380]

Here is another article about this amazing episode:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47780124

 

Nebraska is not a particularly gay friendly US state.  But the Nebraska Medical hospital, where this episode took place, touched my heart because my late companion was treated very well at this excellent place.  So I believe that doctors at this institution had no prejudices to carry out the procedure.

 

We can take an illuminating conclusion from this episode:  the typical (and maybe the only valid) objection to homosexuality that it does not lead to procreation has become TOTALLY FALSE today.  Elliot Dougherty together with the sister Lea of his husband Matthew conceived, procreated successfully this newborn. 

 

Now the Abrahamic God  (or gods, considering the holy trinity) has NO JUSTIFICATION left to bash homosexuality.  He should immediately issue a recall of the Old Testament to take out his declaration that homosexuality is an "abomination",  and Jesus Christ should immediately force St. Paul to recant his ugly bashing of what is assumed to be the homosexuals in the Rome of his time.  Therefore Pope Francis, who allegedly has a direct line with God,  should immediately issue a canonical decree removing LGTBs and their acts from the list of SINS,  and instruct its 1.2 billion followers to disregard all the previous condemnations of gays. 

[fab]

I like the idea of the contribution of the sperm and egg from both sides.

 

 

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[Guest I'm a fan]

Uncanny and quite clever! Natural birth is easier for her because she has a bigger and more expandable "villa" after experiencing numerous childbirths and decades of vanilla sex with her husband.

[Guest guest]

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

A new twist to the controversy about Brunei's sharia law full implementation.

 

This couple claims it os hypocritical of some protestors to not protest BRUNEI'S  neighbouring Mslm countries who have actually carried out Sharia law punishment on a lesbian couple and a str8 couple who was caught for close proximity . 

 

One in Mlys and one case in Indn .

 

But the differences is lashing and not stoning.

 

Are the couple in above video nuts for not being able to distinguish between corporal punishment and capital punishment which involve killing by stoning and amputation.

 

One is temporary pain and scars and one is irreversibly permanent damage and death.

 

Are the couple who keep saying they love the host country Brn , Mlys and Indns and the hospitality mentally unscrewed.

 

DO u follow their argument ?

 

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

The point i agree is need to respect and follow law and custom of any country u visit.

 

 

 

[Guest peace]

26 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

A new twist to the controversy about Brunei's sharia law full implementation.

 

This couple claims it os hypocritical of some protestors to not protest BRUNEI'S  neighbouring Mslm countries who have actually carried out Sharia law punishment on a lesbian couple and a str8 couple who was caught for close proximity . 

 

One in Mlys and one case in Indn .

 

But the differences is lashing and not stoning.

 

Are the couple in above video nuts for not being able to distinguish between corporal punishment and capital punishment which involve killing by stoning and amputation.

 

One is temporary pain and scars and one is irreversibly permanent damage and death.

 

Are the couple who keep saying they love the host country Brn , Mlys and Indns and the hospitality mentally unscrewed.

 

DO u follow their argument ?

 

https://youtu.be/8xIGT5ZXazA

 

The point i agree is need to respect and follow law and custom of any country u visit.

 

 

 

 

The implementation of Shariah in Aceh was the only way to bring peace to Sumatra.

The problem in Aceh is that it applies to Non Muslims too. Otherwise Aceh would have developped to a second Mindanao (Philippines).

 

In Brunei you have an aging Sultan who thinks he needs to impose a strict Islam to keep the population not from straying away or being influenced by a Western lifestyle. The only thing he didn't recognise

is that buying Gucci, Prada and LV or driving a Maserati is a Western lifestyle too....