Foreign / Overseas LGBT News - Gay News Outside Singapore (Compiled)

[Guest Misty]

10 hours ago, Guest ManlyBtm said:

 

Not true, the anus recovers quickly after sex. Even btm can be tight

Yes of course else so bottoms will be incontinence. But there'll be obvious signs left. Especially for a slut bottom.

The anus flesh gets turned out from the in out action of the cock pulling it outward. Especially the big mushroom head specially designed to scrap the bottom's anus. Even just 10 minutes of fucking and the anus will get bloated, loose and easily scraped out. The inner anus muscles can recover and close back tight but this closing squeezed out the loose and bloated anus outer rim. 

Also the rough friction will roughen the skin and it will turn dark.

 

You only need to be screwed a few times and the signs will become very obvious. You don't even need to be experienced to recognize that. That's why no bottom ever dare to claim to be virgin. So tops will not even allow you to touch their ass for fear of you leaving such sexual marks on him even with your fingers. They know because they enjoy leaving such marks on their bottoms. No matter how manly you are, once he leaves marks on you then he marked you as his property.

 

 

[Guest ManlyBtm]

2 hours ago, Guest Misty said:

Yes of course else so bottoms will be incontinence. But there'll be obvious signs left. Especially for a slut bottom.

The anus flesh gets turned out from the in out action of the cock pulling it outward. Especially the big mushroom head specially designed to scrap the bottom's anus. Even just 10 minutes of fucking and the anus will get bloated, loose and easily scraped out. The inner anus muscles can recover and close back tight but this closing squeezed out the loose and bloated anus outer rim. 

Also the rough friction will roughen the skin and it will turn dark.

 

You only need to be screwed a few times and the signs will become very obvious. You don't even need to be experienced to recognize that. That's why no bottom ever dare to claim to be virgin. So tops will not even allow you to touch their ass for fear of you leaving such sexual marks on him even with your fingers. They know because they enjoy leaving such marks on their bottoms. No matter how manly you are, once he leaves marks on you then he marked you as his property.

 

 

what if a btm stop letting people top for few months? will the anus totally recover and look just like virgin?

using lube helps reduce friction i guess, i always use lube

[Guest Blank]

Will bottom really be loose permanently?

[Guest holy s...]

Vatican Suspends Decree That Punished Catholic School For Keeping Gay Teacher

24 September 2019

 

The Vatican has temporarily suspended a decree intended to penalize a Jesuit high school in Indiana for refusing to fire a married gay teacher.

Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory School can resume holding all-school, traditional Masses, Rev. Bill Verbryke, the school president, announced Monday, while a Vatican body considers a request to allow the school to regain its status as a Catholic institution within the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. 

Archbishop Charles C. Thompson kicked Brebeuf Jesuit out of his archdiocese in June, after the school refused to follow his orders to fire math teacher Layton Payne-Elliott. The archdiocese said that Catholic school teachers are “ministers” who are required to uphold church teachings, which prohibit same-sex marriages. 

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Joshua Payne-Elliott, right, and his husband, Layton Payne-Elliott, were both employed as Catholic school teachers in Indianapolis. Joshua Payne-Elliott was fired in June. (Photo: Kathleen DeLaney of DeLaney & DeLaney)

Brebeuf leaders refused to budge, insisting that firing the “highly capable and qualified teacher” would violate “our informed conscience on this particular matter.” The school, part of the Jesn’s decree meant that his archdiocese no longer formally recognized Brebeuf Jesuit as a Catholic school. Although the school was allowed to hold daily services in its chapel before the school day, Thompson denied its request to hold an all-school, traditional Mass to start the school year, IndyStar reported.

The Jesuit’s Midwest province is appealing Thompson’s decree with the Vatican’s Congregation for Catholic Education, a church body that oversees the world’s Catholic schools. Verbryke said Monday that he does not know how long the appeals process will take.

“Ultimately, our desire is to remain in full communion with the Catholic Church, without restrictions on our celebration of the Eucharist, and that our identity as a Catholic school be fully recognized and supported by the Archdiocese, as had been the case for our first 57 years,” Verbryke wrote.

The archdiocese told the IndyStar that the Vatican’s temporary suspension is a common practice that doesn’t affect the appeal’s outcome.

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Archbishop Charles Thompson leads the Archdiocese of Indianapolis. (Photo: Michael Conroy/ASSOCIATED PRESS)

Verbryke said that because of the suspension, his school can celebrate a special, all-school Mass for the feast day of St. Jean de Brébeuf, its namesake, on Oct. 24.

Verbryke said that because of the suspension, his school can celebrate a special, all-school Mass for the feast day of St. Jean de Brébeuf, its namesake, on Oct. 24.

 

He emphasized that the Vatican’s decision to suspend Thompson’s decree is temporary.

“It does not mean that the matter has been resolved, or that any permanent decision has been made,” Verbryke wrote in his statement.

Payne-Elliott’s husband, Joshua Payne-Elliott, was fired from another local Catholic school in June at Thompson’s orders. Payne-Elliott has filed a lawsuit against the archdiocese.

 

 

 

[Steve5380]

On 9/24/2019 at 12:04 AM, Guest holy s... said:

Vatican Suspends Decree That Punished Catholic School For Keeping Gay Teacher

 

Good news!  Maybe this move reflects the influence of Pope Francis.

Now the next step should be to suspend the Archbishop Thompson.

[singalion]

On 9/28/2019 at 1:58 AM, Dart said:

I do not see homophobic is to be entirely blamed on gays. To a certain extend, in neutral Singapore, this tendency is  due to lack of knowledge in homosexuality and understanding towards gays. Here, people would have a chance to use their humanistic reasoning,  perhaps coupled with research and exposure are able to accommodate our sexual orientation, like in @BlinkOnce 's case. 

Nevertheless, people from religious backgrounds in which the religion preaches hate and intolerance, will almost certainly live with this hate. They have been indoctrinated from a young, tender age. If they happen to be gay, they would always live in dilemma. 

Seems surprising, homophobic also stems from gays. These are individualistic, carnal natured and rejected individuals. They have no qualms betraying their fellow gays and pose a greater threat to the community.

 

 

On 9/28/2019 at 10:05 AM, Crispy96 said:

If you are referring to Indonesia, I feel you. It pains me everytime I read the news.

 

On 9/29/2019 at 4:54 AM, Dart said:

Are you referring to the gay persecution in Indonesia? Indonesia is only one example where many have been ingrained with hate doctrine. This remains a major deterrent to a changed mindset. I too feel the pain each time I come across reports across the world in regards to gays been hunted, imprisoned, tortured and executed in the most unspeakable manner. Let's do our part within our little capacity to eradicate homophobia. Great work begins with a little tugging on the heartstrings.

 

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

The constant goading and taunting by members and Moderator for forummers to come out of the closet is really reckless and dangerous.

 

The consequences for those people coming out of the closet are for the individuals to bear. Despite how these vocal cheerleaders pushes for their own agenda here and cheer for people to be coming out, these people will only stand by the sideline to watch the show even if you are to drown and suffer your own toxic consequences if your individual environment turned out to be a non-accepting one. This is what "Throwing Someone Under The Bus" means.    

 

I urge everyone to make your own evaluation of your own environment before you come out of the closet to anyone. DO NOT MAKE SUCH CHOICES HASTILY JUST BECAUSE YOU READ THIS THREAD!

 

This constant goading and taunting for people to come out of the closet might just result in heavy penalties for those out-of-closet people in some countries, if there happen to be forum readers there: https://www.dw.com/en/gay-couple-caned-in-indonesia/av-38957749 

 

Please be careful! 

 

 

Sorry, if I moved the posts from a different thread into here, but I intended to place it into the proper thread discussing overseas LGBT matters:

 

I need to repeat: Homosexuality per se is not criminal in Indonesia, the current Penal code of Indonesia does not provide for any criminalisation of homosexual acts between two men (with the exclusion of certain minor protections). The only exclusion has to be made for the Province of Aceh in the north of Sumatra. During the cease fire and peace agreement, the government of Indonesia had to give in in the application of Muslim sharia law for the Province of Aceh in order to achieve piece and the end of wars between the Independent movement of Aceh and the Government of Indonesia. Due to this as the complete Sharia Law applies in Aceh, homosexuality is a crime.

Please note the above cited article/ video is from April 2018 and not recent.

Be aware the Sharia Laws in the Province of Aceh apply to visitors and non Muslim people too.

 

Indonesia (exclusive of Aceh Province):

There is a discussion and a reform of the Penal code of Indonesia ongoing but as to my knowledge, the draft provisions amending the current Penal code do not provide for express new laws making homosexual acts being or becoming criminal. However, a draft provision could be negatively interpreted as criminalising homosexual acts as the provisions are very vague and leave too much room for interpretation. Hardliners have been pushing hard the last 3 years to integrate more Muslim Law into the Indonesian Penal Code, which was drafted by the Dutch years back.

 

"Among the most controversial articles (in the draft provisions of the Penal Code) are those that would outlaw extramarital sex, which activists say would criminalise homosexuality and cohabitation for unmarried couples. But the draft code is also much more. It is feared that a vague article that refers to “living laws” could be used to legitimise hundreds of existing and discriminatory sharia laws at local level " Quote from the Guardian UK.

 

[The province of Padang has implemented a criminalisation of Homosexuality on provincial local laws, but the provisions had been declared not applicable as not complying with the Indonesian Penal code. ]

 

Fortunately, the draft bill on the Penal Code of Indonesia has been halted following protests in Indonesia in recent days.

 

"Until last week the government appeared ready to pass this controversial bill into law, but on the back of widespread outcry last Friday the president, Joko Widodo, ordered the parliament to postpone, saying more input was required." Quote from the Guardian UK

 

Surely, we are aware, homosexuals face discrimination in Indonesia and widespread hatred from the public. Surely, gays in Indonesia are scapegoats of police discrimination.

However, please also note, the police has in all recent cases solely used drug laws to persecute/prosecute Homosexuals who entertained into sex parties or raided a gay sauna as drugs had been used in the premises.

On the pretext of drug laws the police was able to act against gay establishments and gays and caused public shaming by inviting the local TV and media to film the persons involved when they were arrested. Therefore, gays should be advised in Indonesia to refrain from using drugs otherwise you fall the danger of even private properties being raided by the police (as the police has no power currently to raid on the basis of homosexual acts, as they are not criminal!)

 

 

A protester throws a stone during clashes with police in Jakarta. Photograph: Antara Foto/Reuters

 

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[Dart]

On 9/30/2019 at 5:35 PM, singalion said:

 

Sorry, if I moved the posts from a different thread into here, but I intended to place it into the proper thread discussing overseas LGBT matters:

 

 

Thanks for your elaborate update on how homosexuality and gay people fare in the political and social landscape in Indonesia. Despite a huge country with multi ethnicity and religious composition, Indonesia is powerfully ruddered by groups hardliners and a large population who would impose their barbaric practice onto the nation. This has resulted in gay men been targeted. Gay establishments and gatherings have been raided in the pretext of eradicating drug abuse in these premises.   

 

However, my earlier comment wasn't particularly on Indonesia but on the source of which the hate originated. The widespread toxic ideology which traveled from Middle East has infiltrated all of north African states and maritime South East Asia. Hence, we witness to varying degrees of atrocities carried out towards gay men in these countries. The doctrine in particular commands the culling of those who would leave the ideology and adherents have no qualms carry it out even on their offsprings! 

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Dart said:

 

However, my earlier comment wasn't particularly on Indonesia but on the source of which the hate originated. The widespread toxic ideology which traveled from Middle East has infiltrated all of north African states and maritime South East Asia. Hence, we witness to varying degrees of atrocities carried out towards gay men in these countries. The doctrine in particular commands the culling of those who would leave the ideology and adherents have no qualms carry it out even on their offsprings! 

 

 

Could the toxic ideology towards gay men be the result of poverty and being destitute?  Countries who are accepting of people who are different have a larger middle-class that does not need to take it out on anyone.   Alternatively,  can the cruelty of a religion desensitize its followers so that being cruel with others feels perfectly normal?

[Guest Pointer Sister]

4 hours ago, Dart said:

However, my earlier comment wasn't particularly on Indonesia but on the source of which the hate originated. The widespread toxic ideology which traveled from Middle East has infiltrated all of north African states and maritime South East Asia. Hence, we witness to varying degrees of atrocities carried out towards gay men in these countries. The doctrine in particular commands the culling of those who would leave the ideology and adherents have no qualms carry it out even on their offsprings! 

 

Did you watch the documentary 'The Family' on Netflix?

[Dart]

On 10/5/2019 at 5:47 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Could the toxic ideology towards gay men be the result of poverty and being destitute?  Countries who are accepting of people who are different have a larger middle-class that does not need to take it out on anyone.   Alternatively,  can the cruelty of a religion desensitize its followers so that being cruel with others feels perfectly normal?

 

The toxic ideology hailed from the Arabian desert peninsula some 1400 years ago. It had since begun it's bloodbath conquest expanding east and westward. In maritime South East Asia, it was a peaceful introduction by Arab traders to simple minded indigenous people which later dominated their lifestyle and mindset to this day. So it is not the case of being poor and destitute that has contributed to the rise of homophobia. Some of the infiltrated countries like the Gulf states and Brunei are filthy rich.They adhere the doctrine to the letter and carry out plans against gay men as demanded by it. As mentioned earlier, the people have been indoctrinated from a young tender age so much so they could not tell if it has been a separate part of them. Yes, these people have been desensitized towards people whom the doctrine deemed to be annihilated.  

 

The video below shows a gay couple being humiliated, dragged out  and were beaten separately after the security guards spotted them having intimacy inside car. The incident took place in the vicinity of Kuala Lumpur, late last year (2018).

 

https://www.malaysiantalk.com/Complaints/same-sex-couple-beaten-up-by-guards-video

 

Edited October 7, 2019 by Dart

[Guest general]

Strangely, in many of these countries, plenty of guys experience their first sexual experiences with a guy, because it is not tolerated from the society to have sex with a girl. Most of the guys from these countries maintain their pleasure fun with guys even after they married. This about the convincing power of religion.

[Guest Malaysian men]

Malaysian men caned for gay sex under Islamic law

 

 

AFP

19/11/2019

 

The four men received six strokes of the cane each in a prison outside Kuala Lumpur for attempting "intercourse against the order of nature"

Four Malaysian men have been caned for having gay sex in violation of Islamic laws, with activists Tuesday condemning "vicious punishments" they said highlighted a crackdown on the LGBT community.

 

Rights group say there is a worsening climate for gays in the Muslim-majority country, where authorities have maintained a colonial-era ban on sodomy and mete out harsh physical punishments for same-sex relations.

 

The men, aged 26 to 37, received six strokes of the cane each in a prison outside Kuala Lumpur on Monday for attempting "intercourse against the order of nature", an offence under sharia law, Amnesty International said.

 

They admitted committing the offence in an apartment last year, with an Islamic court also fining the men and sentencing them to jail terms of up to seven months each.

Religious authorities found out about the private event by monitoring messages between the men, and then sent a raiding party of 50 officers to detain them, according to Amnesty.

A fifth man convicted with the others was not caned as he is appealing against the punishment, while a further six men arrested in the apartment raid are still facing charges, the rights group added.

 

"These vicious punishments... are the actual crimes being committed here," said Shamini Darshni Kaliemuthu, Amnesty's Malaysia executive director.

"Malaysia should be creating an environment in which LGBT people are free from discrimination, not ensnaring and beating innocent people."

 

Gay rights activist Numan Afifi, who has been following the case, confirmed the men were caned. AFP could not immediately contact court officials or the men's lawyers.

Malaysia has a dual-track legal system, with sharia courts handling some cases for Muslim citizens. Sodomy is a crime under the country's regular criminal code as well as under Islamic law.

 

Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad last year said that Malaysia could not accept LGBT rights such as same-sex marriage, dismissing them as "western" values.

A month before his remarks, two women were caned in a sharia court in what campaigners said was the first time the punishment had been used in Malaysia as part of a conviction for lesbian sex. 

[Guest Malaysian men]

Malaysia sentences 5 men to jail, caning and fines over gay sex

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PUBLISHED NOV 7, 2019

 

KUALA LUMPUR (REUTERS) - A Malaysian religious court sentenced five men on Thursday (Nov 7) to jail, caning and fines for attempting gay sex, media and a rights group said.

Sodomy and same-sex acts are illegal under Islamic law in Muslim-majority Malaysia, although convictions are rare.

The Selangor Syariah High Court, on the outskirts of the Malaysian capital, sentenced four men to six months' jail, six strokes of the cane, and a RM4,800 (S$1,577) fine for "attempting intercourse against the order of nature", the Malay-language daily Harian Metro reported.

 

A fifth man was sentenced to seven months' jail, six strokes of the cane and a RM4,900 fine for the same offence.

Islamic enforcement officers detained the five accused with seven other men during a November 2018 raid on a two-storey apartment, Harian Metro reported, citing judge Mohamad Asri Mohamad Tahir.

"The facts show that there was an attempt to carry out intercourse outside of the order of nature and that it was not in the early stages of preparation," Mr Mohamad Asri was quoted as saying.

 

Reuters could not reach the judge for comment and calls to the Selangor Syariah High Court went unanswered. A lawyer for the men did not respond to a request for comment.

 

Malaysia is home to 32 million people, where ethnic Malay Muslims make up more than 60 per cent of the population.

It has a dual-track legal system, with Islamic criminal and family laws applicable to Muslims running alongside civil laws.

 

Mr Numan Afifi, president of sexuality rights' group Pelangi, said the sentencing was "outrageous" and could create an environment of fear within the LGBT community.

 

Mr Afifi, who attended the court hearing, said five other men arrested with the accused will also be sentenced on Nov 19.

The case comes amid concerns around growing intolerance towards the LGBT community in Malaysia in recent months.

 

In September 2018, two women were caned for "attempting lesbian sex" in the east coast state of Terengganu.

Earlier this year, a minister and other Muslim groups protested after LGBT activists attended a march for International Women's Day.

 

 

 

 

 

[fab]

Can't accept western values yet follow a colonial era ban blindly?

 

Much irony.

[fab]

When stupid people adopt violent practice out of blind faith, tragedies happen.

[Guest bits here]

To start of: In my view any criminal matters should always be regulated by secular laws distinct from consideration to any religious beliefs.

 

4 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Mahathir will say his view is in line with Islamic (non-Western) law.  The colonial era ban just shares (coincides) with Islamic law ban.

 

In that sense, he would have been required to support the PAS move to introduce Hudud laws for all muslims in Malaysia in 2016. But he opposed to it or helped to have the proposal tabled but never discussed or voted in Parliament.

It's always smart to take some bits from here and other bits from there just as it suits your matter...

 

 

Hudud (Arabic: حدود Ḥudūd, also transliterated hadud, hudood; plural of hadd, حد) is an Arabic word meaning "borders, boundaries, limits".^[1] In the religion of Islam it refers to punishments that under Islamic law (shariah) are mandated and fixed by God. These punishments were rarely applied in pre-modern Islam,^[2][3] and their use in some modern states has been a source of controversy.

Hudud punishments range from public lashing to publicly stoning to death, amputation of hands and crucifixion.

 Hudud crimes cannot be pardoned by the victim or by the state, and the punishments must be carried out in public.

 

Note: Actually the applicability of Hudud for homosexual acts is very debated and different scholars come to different conclusions. Some say it never justifies for the strict Hudud laws, others do.

Quote: The main position in the Hanafi school of law for many centuries was that someone convicted of sodomy (which in all the schools required four witnesses to the act of penetration) was not executed but only given a milder punishment or perhaps only disciplined by a judge. But the other three Sunni schools of law did consider sodomy to be a death-penalty offense (at the very least for the active partner). This disagreement exists because of how different schools of thought in the Shariah weighed evidence from the Quran and the Prophet’s precedent and how they interpreted it. For the schools of law that upheld the death penalty for sodomy, their evidence was 1) several Hadiths of the Prophet in which he states that those who commit ‘the act of the people of Lot’ should be killed, the main one being the Hadith of Ibn ‘Abbas^[2]; 2) an analogy between sodomy and Zina (heterosexual fornication or adultery), which was often punishable by death; and 3) the rulings of many Companions of the Prophet and other early Muslim scholars. The Hanafi school differed with this position because 1) the school did not permit declaring something to be a Hudud crime (see below) by analogy (sodomy might be analogous to Zina, but God and the Prophet had commanded Muslims to seek the most minimal possible application of Hudud laws, so extension by analogy was indulging) ^[3]; 2) Hanafis argued that the Hadiths asserting the death penalty for Liwat were of debatable authenticity.

 

 

 

[Guest InBangkok]

Clearly this is a sensitive topic but it really is not true that Islamic countries are anti-gay for historical reasons. Turkey may now be a secular country in name but 97% of its people are Muslims. Yet even before Britain introduced its 377A laws in all its colonial possessions, homosexuality had been legal in the Ottoman Empire (whose centre was today's Turkey) since 1858 and remains so today. Ottoman poetry is rife with references to young, beloved, men. Even in the early centuries of Islam, many Islamic countries had a long tradition of homosexuality.  In Islamic countries heavily influenced by Persia (i.e. many), it was very common for older men to romantically pursue younger, beardless men. Gender was fluid in many societies. It was only in mid-19th century Europe that the terms we now call "gay" and "straight" came to the fore. With the predominant position then occupied by western societies, this view gradually spread throughout much of the world. 

[Guest News reader]

Indonesian student jailed as Britain's worst rapist

 

Reynhard Sinaga, 36, was found guilty of luring 48 men from outside bars and clubs in the city of Manchester back to his flat, where he drugged and assaulted them.PHOTO: AFP

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LONDON (REUTERS, AFP, AP) - A student from Indonesia has been named as Britain's worst ever rapist after being convicted of more than 150 offences over more than two and a half years.

 

Reynhard Sinaga, 36, was found guilty of luring 48 men from outside bars and clubs in the city of Manchester back to his flat, where he drugged and assaulted them. In some instances he would then film the attacks on his mobile phone.

 

"The most prolific rapist ever tried in a British court has today been jailed for life after drugging and assaulting 48 men, following the largest prosecution of its kind in the Crown Prosecution Service's history," the CPS said in a statement.

A judge on Monday (Jan 6) ruled that following four separate trials he must serve a minimum of 30 years in jail.

"His extreme sense of sexual entitlement almost defies belief and he would no doubt still be adding to his staggering tally had he not been caught," said Ian Rushton, a government prosecutor.

 

"Sinaga's unthreatening demeanour duped these young men - many of whom thanked him for his kindness in offering them a place to stay - into thinking this monster was a Good Samaritan."

 

 

“But once back at his flat he used victims as objects purely for his own gratification – then appears to have derived further twisted pleasure from re-watching his films in court and putting victims through the trauma of giving evidence.”

 

Judge Suzanne Goddard called Sinaga as “an evil sexual predator”.

 

He was caught only when one victim woke up.

 “One of your victims described you as a monster,” Judge Goddard said. “The scale and enormity of your offending confirms this as an accurate description.”

 

Sinaga was convicted of 159 offences, including 136 rapes and eight attempted rapes, at four separate trials, according to the Crown Prosecution Service. 

 

The first trial began in June 2018. The last ended last December. None could be reported until restrictions imposed to avoid prejudicing juries were lifted on Monday. 

 

The CPS said Sinaga was suspected of attacking “scores” more men since he moved to Britain in 2007, calling him “the worst-known sex offender in the country’s history”. 

 

Sinaga, a slightly built, young-looking doctorate student, had claimed his mainly heterosexual victims were acting out his sexual fantasy to play dead during intercourse. 

 

But four trial juries rejected his defence and a character testimony from a local church he had attended in Manchester. 

 

He was arrested in 2017 after the victim who woke up managed to snatch his mobile phone and took it to police.  The CPS said detectives discovered 3.29 terabytes of graphic material of the sexual assaults equivalent to 250 DVDs or 300,000 photos. One of the assaults lasted for eight hours. 

 

Sinaga arrived in Britain from his native Indonesia on a student visa in 2007. He received two degrees in sociology and planning from the University of Manchester and was studying for his PhD at the University of Leeds when he was suspended following his arrest in 2017.

 

His thesis was called: “Sexuality and everyday transnationalism. South Asian gay and bisexual men in Manchester."

 

“It is almost beyond belief that someone who could profess some Christian faith could at the same time have been committing such wicked and evil crimes,“ Judge Goddard said.

[Guest johnsonklt]

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[Guest bali bandung]

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For background story click here

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50688975

 

Manchester rapes: How Reynhard Sinaga found his victims

 

Warning: This piece contains accounts of sexual assaults.

Reynhard Sinaga is thought to be the UK's "most prolific rapist" ever. For several years, until he was caught in 2017, he preyed on young men enjoying a night out.

Princess Street, in the heart of Manchester's city centre, is rarely quiet.

If you follow it down from the impressive Victorian town hall on Albert Square, past bars, shops, restaurants, and converted textile warehouses, you reach the borders of two of the city's most popular destinations - Chinatown and the Gay Village.

Beyond that, you come to a stretch of road bordered by nightclubs - Factory, Fifth, Joshua Brooks - a big part of the city's vibrant nightlife.

With its close proximity to two of the city's universities, the road is also a popular area for student accommodation.

 

Reynhard Sinaga, a 36-year-old postgraduate student, had made this his home for more than seven years, living in a rented flat just a few moments' walk from Factory Nightclub.

Sinaga, originally from Indonesia, was a perpetual student. He already had four degrees and was studying for a doctorate. By night he was a serial sex offender.

He has been found guilty of drugging, raping and sexually assaulting 48 men, but police believe they are among at least 190 victims.

They are able to be so precise about these numbers because Sinaga filmed his attacks and collected what detectives call "trophies" - items or information stolen from his victims.

Sinaga typically approached his victims in the street. The rapist operated in a small area surrounding his flat. His targets were men mostly in their late teens or early 20s who had been out drinking, often in the nearby nightclubs.

Some were on their way home, others had become separated from friends.

Many were too drunk to remember their conversation with Sinaga, but for those who did there was no indication of a sexual motive. Sinaga used various pretexts to entice each to his flat.

Some victims could recall being provided with a drink and then blacking out.

 

 

Sinaga presented himself as a flamboyant, churchgoing academic who used the nickname "posh spice". A thin man of slight build and short stature, physically he appeared unthreatening. Several victims recall him smiling a lot.

It was this apparent harmlessness that enabled Sinaga to pose as a "good Samaritan", coaxing men he approached back to the flat.

 

We know about the benign impression Sinaga created because dozens of victims gave testimony to police, with 48 of them appearing in court over the course of four trials.

Of the victims who went to court, the vast majority were heterosexual. Ian Rushton, from the Crown Prosecution Service, said he thought Sinaga took "a particular pleasure in preying on heterosexual men".

Most of his victims were living in Manchester at the time and, in all, 26 were students when they were attacked.

Their accounts explain how Sinaga operated.

One was waiting for his girlfriend outside Fifth Avenue nightclub - since renamed Fifth Manchester - when he was approached by a "small Asian guy" who seemed harmless.

The man was invited back to Sinaga's flat to wait for his girlfriend, but recalled nothing further after being given a shot of clear liquid to drink.

 

Another man described being "approached by a young Asian gentleman". He said he had a "vague recollection of explaining that my phone was dead and that I was trying to get a taxi but the taxis were passing me".

He added: "I think I can recall a conversation along the lines of, 'Would you like to come inside and charge your phone and have a quick chat,'" he told the court.

To him, Sinaga "didn't seem like an imposing character" and during their conversations in the apartment, he appeared to be "an honest, motivated person" with an interest in academic research.

The man told the court that soon after being offered a drink, he couldn't remember "a single thing until the next morning".

After waking, confused and disoriented, he left within five minutes.

Like almost every victim, he had no idea he had been raped until being approached by police.

Another victim remembered his friends putting him in a cab outside a club. His next recollection was waking up in a strange apartment.

When he asked Sinaga what had happened, he described providing care and shelter after finding him lying in the street.

Another victim believed Sinaga had been "really nice and had looked after him".

One victim, a teenage university student, managed to get Sinaga's mobile number as a precaution after waking up in the flat, and then having concerns that something might have been stolen from him.

When he rang to ask for more information about what happened, Sinaga described himself as a "good Samaritan" who had found him unconscious on the pavement.

   

 

 

Another man remembered waking up on the floor, covered in a blanket, before thanking the flat's occupier for letting him stay over.

He suspected nothing, even though the person "refused to give me personal details" in order to assist with an insurance claim for a lost mobile phone.

The phone, like many others stolen from their owners, was later recovered from Sinaga's home by police.

Some victims felt incredibly unwell after regaining consciousness, sometimes naked and covered in vomit.

Unknown to them at the time, Sinaga had given his victims a drug - almost certainly GHB - which rendered them unconscious before he assaulted them.

What is GHB?

 

 

One victim, who woke up naked on Sinaga's floor feeling nauseous and panic-stricken, came to the conclusion he had been drugged, telling his fiancé about that suspicion but not about the condition in which he awoke.

Another man, who was told he could sleep on the floor, recalled waking twice during the night, on one occasion to be sick.

He remembered that on one of the occasions he was unable to move his arms and could feel himself being penetrated, before passing out again.

In the morning, he briefly spoke with Sinaga before leaving. He did not report what happened to police, until being approached by them.

It was the largest rape investigation in UK history.

Police found more than 100 of the men from clues in Sinaga's flat. But the identities of 70 men have not been established and police are now appealing for anyone who believes they may been abused by Sinaga to come forward.

The CPS's Ian Rushton says that Sinaga is probably the most prolific known rapist "anywhere in the world".

 

One of four children, Sinaga comes from a wealthy Indonesian family who live in Depok, a city within the Jakarta metropolitan area. His father is a prominent businessman in the palm oil sector.

After obtaining a degree in architecture at the University of Indonesia in Depok, he moved to the UK in 2007 to study urban planning at the University of Manchester.

He went on to gain three degrees there before embarking on a doctorate in human geography at the University of Leeds - travelling there from Manchester when required.

His family wealth meant that he rarely worked, although he claims to have had stints in employment in hospitality at both Manchester football clubs and in a clothes shop. He worked for a period at a bar in the city's Gay Village, the area where he spent much of his time socialising. He was also a regular at a local church.

After originally living in student accommodation, Sinaga moved to a rented flat in Montana House on Princess Street in 2011.

While his convictions cover a period of two and a half years, police believe his offences predate 2015. But they say they may never know the true extent of his crimes.

It came to an end in the summer of 2017.

Sinaga was offending with abandon, sometimes night after night. In footage recovered from CCTV cameras covering his block of flats, he is seen leaving one evening only to return with a man 60 seconds later.

It was just after midnight on 2 June 2017, when he approached his final victim.

A teenager, who left The Factory nightclub to get some fresh air after becoming separated from friends, agreed to go to Sinaga's flat after it was suggested he could try to contact them from there.

The man recalled nothing further until waking several hours later being sexually attacked by Sinaga.

He immediately pushed Sinaga away, who responded by screaming "intruder" and "help", before repeatedly biting the teenager.

The man hit Sinaga several times, escaped from the flat, and then called police, who arrived to a chaotic scene.

Sinaga, who was discovered semi-conscious with serious injuries, was at first viewed sympathetically, and the teenager was arrested for assault.

 

But Sinaga's behaviour in hospital began to arouse suspicion. He kept asking officers to have a mobile phone brought to him from his flat.

Police asked him to confirm the pin number before they would hand it over. However Sinaga gave a series of false numbers, then tried to grab the phone after providing the correct one.

The officer became so suspicious that he seized the phone as potential evidence and, when it was checked, a video recording was found of Sinaga raping the arrested teenager.

It was the start of what the officer overseeing the investigation, Assistant Chief Constable Mabs Hussain, calls "an absolutely unprecedented case".

He says the inquiry has been like "piecing a jigsaw together without the picture".

Another of Sinaga's mobiles had somehow ended up in the pocket of the final victim.

Between them, the two phones had been used to capture about 800 videos of Sinaga raping or sexually assaulting unconscious men.

The victims, usually snoring loudly, were often repeatedly raped over several hours.

 

 

In some of the films, Sinaga is seen to forcibly hold men down who, though unconscious, were visibly distressed or made attempts to push him away. In others, victims are seen to vomit while being attacked.

To find the men, detectives used both the films and "trophies" collected by Sinaga - phones, watches, ID cards from their wallets, images that Sinaga had downloaded from their social media profiles, searches about them he conducted online.

When they lacked identifying information, investigators tried facial recognition technology, approached local universities, and asked other police forces around the UK if they knew any of the men.

Officers also considered whether Sinaga might have killed any of his victims with fatal drug overdoses, examining potential links to unsolved deaths or missing people, but there was no evidence to suggest this was the case.

When officers made a positive identification, that person would be approached and told he had been a victim of sexual offences.

 

 

 

 

Lisa Waters, of the St Mary's Sexual Assault Referral Centre, says their crisis workers accompanied detectives on these visits in order to "offer immediate emotional and practical support".

She says that being told what happened "can be quite overwhelming, very confusing".

"What we didn't want to do was to drop the bombshell and then just disappear and leave these men with no support," she says.

A large programme was put in place to provide ongoing support.

Waters says many of the men have chosen not to tell anybody else about what happened to them.

"That might be because they might want to protect their own psychological health; it might be because they're ashamed to tell other people; it might be because they're fearful of other people's responses," she says.

Dozens of those approached did not want to go through the court process.

Sinaga was found to have told unsuspecting friends about some of the rapes, passing them off as consensual sexual conquests.

In messages about the first victim who went to court, Sinaga boasted about the attack on New Year's Eve in 2014.

"I didn't get my new year kiss, but I've had my first sex in 2015 already," he wrote, adding that the man was "straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha".

During another boast about what he presented as his prowess with "straight" men, Sinaga wrote: "Take a sip of my secret poison, I'll make you fall in love."

Police officers have spoken to other men, tracked down as a result of still images discovered in the flat that date from before 2015. These men recall being there, but not what happened. There is no other evidence available to show that they were sexually assaulted.

Only one previous report to police was linked to Sinaga after his arrest, dating from April 2017, when the victim had woken disorientated and unwell in a strange room with an Asian male.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest bali bandung]

last part of article is here.

 

 

 

He quickly left, but later that day had flashbacks of being sexually assaulted and - two days afterwards - he called the police.

However, the man was unsure of the property in which he had been assaulted, meaning inquiries focused on two nearby hotels, neither of which had had any guests who matched the suspect's description.

Despite the overwhelming evidence, Sinaga pleaded not guilty to all 159 charges, forcing a series of four trials in which his victims had to give evidence and jurors had to watch hours of distressing videos.

Court rules meant that nothing could be reported in the media and each jury was unaware of the wider case against him.

Sinaga gave evidence in the first and last of the trials, running what the judge called a "ludicrous defence" which involved him claiming that each victim had agreed to fulfil his "sexual fantasy" by being penetrated while being filmed and pretending to be asleep.

When this scenario was suggested to one victim in court, he responded by saying it was "absolutely farcical".

Sinaga changed his story during the trials.

In the first trial, he denied that the loud snoring heard in some films was snoring at all, insisting it was just "breathing sounds".

But, by the time of the final trial, he claimed the snoring was actually just "role-play".

It was only halfway through the first trial that he admitted penetrating most of the victims on that indictment.

In the witness box he came across as vain and self-absorbed, telling jurors: "I make myself available all the time… I may look like a 'lady boy' and it seems very popular amongst curious men who are looking for a gay experience."

When entering and exiting court he often appeared cheerful, as if he was enjoying the process.

In the absence of the jury, the judge repeatedly asked defence counsel whether any of the evidence could be agreed, to spare jurors watching every video.

But Sinaga would not agree and, because he insisted each victim was conscious and consenting, the videos had to be played to demonstrate this was a lie.

The prosecution case was that Sinaga used the drug GHB to incapacitate his victims.

No trace of the drug was found in his apartment and - due to the circumstances of Sinaga's arrest - the final victim was not tested quickly enough for its presence to be established.

However, the symptoms shown by the hundreds of videos were all consistent with GHB intoxication, as were the descriptions of him providing clear liquid shots, and each trial heard expert evidence about its effects.

GHB was used by Stephen Port, who murdered four men between June 2014 and September 2015. The men were given fatal overdoses of the drug. Port was also convicted of raping or assaulting several living victims using GHB.

The impact on Sinaga's victims is vast.

Waters says that "some of the men have found it very difficult to function in everyday life".

This has resulted in substance misuse, people unable to go to work, students unable to finish university, and others having to leave home after feeling unable to function any longer within their families.

She adds that "some men have been suicidal and we've had to try to help them come to terms with that and how we can make them safe".

Dr Sam Warner, author of a report about the psychological impact on Sinaga's victims, says a loss of power coupled with an absence of memory can be "extremely frightening, disturbing, upsetting because that goes to the heart of how you make sense of yourself, how you understand your experiences".

"In a situation where people have been incapacitated through drugs they may have no flashback to that particular event," she says.

"What they will have is the flashback to being told, however sensitively done, because suddenly they become a rape victim at that point."

She says the stress and trauma "may continue throughout people's lives".

In a series of statements read in court, the men themselves described the impact.

"I felt numb. I was totally shocked, embarrassed, betrayed and very angry," one said.

"His actions were disgusting, unforgiveable. He has massively abused my trust in humanity."

Another man said: "I want Sinaga to spend the rest of his life in prison. Not only for what he has done to me but for what he has done to the other lads and the misery and stress he has caused them."

A further victim said: "I remember the day the police contacted me, it is a day I will never forget because it changed my life forever."

Another: "I wish the worse for him, I want him to feel the pain and sufferance I have felt. He has destroyed a part of my life."

Throughout all four trials, Sinaga displayed not a glimmer of empathy or contrition.

His persistent smile, so often used to comfort and disarm, was instead revealed to be a mark of his cruelty.

In a message to Sinaga, one victim said: "I'm not going to let you ruin my life."

[Guest bali bandung]

wah perpetrator wanted to make police arrest and shame the victims by creating a false scenario.

 

 

Can see victim shaming here too.

[auri]

Terrible things he did.

I suspect the tables will be turned inside jail

[doncoin]

10 hours ago, johnsonklt said:

wow he is good looking ley

dun mind to be fuck by him  😁

he got nice figure

 

 

Well, based on reading the article, you would need to be straight, and drugged in order to engage him to sexually assault you. Since you are gay, and willing, I don't think that will satisfy him. 🤠Maybe if you are drugged and unaware what is happening/.

[Guest oops]

this is outrages. 

[Guest o.O.]

12 hours ago, johnsonklt said:

wow he is good looking ley

dun mind to be fuck by him  😁

he got nice figure

 

part of the reason why people shun the gay community. when articles like this come out, we give such comments. 

[Guest Guest]

12 minutes ago, Guest o.O. said:

 

part of the reason why people shun the gay community. when articles like this come out, we give such comments. 

 

[fab]

Since when Indonesia is South Asia?

 

Or Has it shifted?

[Guest guest7]

There are many in local gay scene would do the same crime if the same preconditions are there.

 

Just lucky i have not met one here.

[fab]

Based on my personal experience, in countries where midnight transport isn't cheaply available, many outskirters are

readily willing to trade their bodies for an overnight accommodation.

[Guest Fuwar]

15 minutes ago, fab said:

Based on my personal experience, in countries where midnight transport isn't cheaply available, many outskirters are

readily willing to trade their bodies for an overnight accommodation.

 

How does your own personal experience count in the face the victims’ testimony?

 

Don’t you think you are exposing yourself here?

[Guest News reader]

Britain's 'most prolific rapist' played Good Samaritan in luring victims to his flat

 

A CCTV screengrab of Indonesian serial rapist Reynhard Sinaga leaving his house in search of his young male victims.PHOTO: SCREENGRAB FROM YOUTUBE

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Linda Yulisman

Indonesia Correspondent

 

 

JAKARTA - For two and a half years, Indonesian serial rapist Reynhard Sinaga prowled the bars and restaurants of Manchester in search of his young male victims.

 

Factory nightclub, just a few doors from his flat in Montana House on Princess Street in central Manchester, was his favourite place to seek men.

 

The police said Sinaga often went out after midnight, and in one of the CCTV recordings is seen returning to his flat just 60 seconds later with a young man who was later raped, BBC reported.

Sinaga is believed to have used different pretexts - among them a place to wait for friends, or to charge a mobile phone with a flat battery - to lure around 190 victims back to his apartment in Princess Street.

 

Most of them were in their late teens or early 20s, and had been out drinking at nearby nightclubs before he approached them in the streets.

 

Many of Sinaga's victims recalled he gave them a drink - which he once described insidiously in a WhatsApp group with friends as "secret poison" - when they went to his flat. He raped them after they passed out, filming the abuses on his two mobile phones.

 

One such clip showed a victim not stirring despite a mobile phone ringing at full volume in the background, The Guardian reported.

 

 

The prosecution said that the men were drugged, possibly with gamma-hydroxybutyric acid, better known as GHB or liquid ecstasy, or other substances with the same effect.

 

Sinaga, 36, has been labelled "Britain's most prolific rapist". He was sentenced to 30 years for 136 rapes, being found guilty on 159 charges.

Police believe Sinaga, who was arrested on June 2, 2017, would have carried on had one of his victims not woken up during an attack that day and called 999.

 

Following Sinaga's arrest, police discovered films on two iPhones showing him raping scores of apparently sleeping young men.

 

When Greater Manchester police examined Sinaga's digital devices, they discovered 3.29TB of extremely graphic material - equivalent to 250 DVDs - depicting sexual assaults lasting in one case for eight hours.

Reynhard Sinaga leaving Montana House to prowl the streets for victims

 

Whenever groggy victims regained consciousness, Sinaga could be seen pushing them back to the floor to continue the assault or snatching away his phone to avoid suspicion. Few had any idea they had been raped until police knocked on their doors several years later.

 

The case has shocked many in his home country where homosexuality is still a taboo, with many condemning the abuses as evil and depraved.

The University of Indonesia, which confirmed Sinaga was an alumnus, condemned his acts as "insolent, illegal and inhumane" and expressed its sympathy to the victims of his assaults."

 

Sinaga lived in the UK off money wired over by his father, a wealthy Indonesian tycoon who owns property businesses. Footage taken by the BBC showed his family's luxury house in Depok, West Java.

 

Reynhard Sinaga's flat which he lured men to and where he drugged and assaulted them. PHOTO: GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE

 

 

Spirit bottles in Reynhard Sinaga's flat. PHOTO: GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE

 

Born in Jambi, Sumatra in February 1983 to a Catholic family, Sinaga was the eldest of three children. He attended a number of private schools and graduated with a degree in architecture from the University of Indonesia in 2006 before going abroad to study.

 

His parents had wanted to marry him off to a girl of their choice in Indonesia.

 

He went to the UK when he was 24 on a student visa in 2007 to pursue his masters' degree in planning and then sociology at The University of Manchester, graduating in 2011.

 

Sinaga, the 170m tall guy with a cute face behind black-rimmed glasses, had a lot of friends in Manchester. But despite his boasting about his frequent "conquests" to his WhatsApp chat group, none of them suspected the sinister on-goings in his flat.

 

"He was very flamboyant, had highlighted hair and was very camp," one man who went out regularly with him was quoted as saying by The Guardian.

He added: "He was always out, always going on holiday. We wondered where he got his money because he never seemed to work."

 

While still staying in Manchester, he later commuted to the University of Leeds, where he undertook his PhD degree in human geography. The school suspended him after his arrest in 2017 and expelled him after his first trial in 2018.

 

While in the UK, he remained "faithful", worshipping at a liberal Anglican church close to his flat.

Members of the church also provided the court with a reference on Sinaga.

 

"He did go to church and did some voluntary work, assisted with the service and with some classes too, with teaching. He sees himself as openly gay. He liked the fact that the church accepted him as an openly gay man and as also being foreign as well," Detective Inspector Zed Ali, the senior investigator on the case was quoted as saying by Manchester Evening News

[mate69]

Wow how brazen

[bodybuildMLY]

8 hours ago, Guest o.O. said:

 

part of the reason why people shun the gay community. when articles like this come out, we give such comments. 

 

No need. This report suffices for the gay community to be blamed, shunned and worse, used as evidence to support 377 Penal code. A gay rapist who raped 190 men. He definitely targetted the young ones from teens to early 20s. 

[Guest Hmm]

8 hours ago, Guest o.O. said:

 

part of the reason why people shun the gay community. when articles like this come out, we give such comments. 

"We"?

 

BlowingWind doesn't represent the entire population of gay men in Singapore. It's easy to forget this.

 

[Guest Guest]

6 hours ago, Guest guest7 said:

There are many in local gay scene would do the same crime if the same preconditions are there.

 

Just lucky i have not met one here.

 

I don't think so. We are talking about the rape of almost 190 men here.. 

🤬

 

[Guest heyhey]

This is so sad but i do find indonesian natives quite hot manly and sexy! they are my kind of thing.

[Guest sgguy]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/reynhard-sinaga-friends-indonesia-rapist-12240318

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/manchester-rapist-indonesian-student-reynhard-sinaga-12240518

 

Closeted serial rapists, molesters, peeping toms or killers who are often outwardly quiet, benign or nerdy are the most dangerous lot !

 

 

[singalion]

I found the articles at the Guardian from UK giving best info on the case:

 

Reynhard Sinaga: the 'Peter Pan' student who raped scores of men

Sinaga was seen by friends as a ‘square’ who could never be capable of such crimes

• Man jailed for life for raping dozens of men in Manchester
• How serial rapist posed as a good samaritan to lure victims

Helen Pidd and Josh Halliday

Mon 6 Jan 2020 12.20 GMT Last modified on Mon 6 Jan 2020 20.15 GMT

 

Reynhard Sinaga came to the UK from Indonesia on a student visa in 2007 and never left, living off money from his father. Photograph: Facebook

There is no such thing as a typical rapist. But both Reynhard Sinaga’s friends and victims agree there was nothing about his friendly and unthreatening appearance to suggest he was capable of any kind of violence, let alone a two-and-a-half year campaign of rape and degradation.

Barely 5ft 7in (170cm) tall, with a soft voice, ready smile and thick-rimmed glasses, he cut an unassuming figure. “He’s just nice, meek and inoffensive,” said one friend from the Gay Village in Manchester. “I can’t imagine him getting a parking ticket or telling off. He’s such a square.”

Born in 1983 to a Catholic family in Jambi in the Indonesian island of Sumatra, Sinaga came to the UK in 2007 on a student visa when he was 24. For the next 10 years, up until his arrest on 2 June 2017, he lived off money wired from Indonesia by his father, a banker. As well as paying tens of thousands of pounds in tuition fees, his father financed Sinaga’s flat in Montana House, a few doors down from Factory nightclub, which became his favourite place to look for men.

Sinaga, known as Rey, rarely talked about his family or life back home, where he had two siblings. His mother came to the first pre-trial hearing, but was not present for any of the four trials her son insisted on putting his victims through, with the defence claiming the men he drugged and filmed himself raping were only pretending to be asleep.

He never hid his sexuality in Manchester, where he was a regular on Canal Street and in the Gay Village. Giving evidence in the fourth trial, Sinaga told of using gay dating apps including Grindr and Hornet.

His friends say they had no knowledge of his crimes. Some had heard him describe “turning” heterosexual men as a sport. He would boast to certain friends of his sexual misadventures, often with the heterosexual men he was later accused of raping.

In July 2015, in a WhatsApp exchange read to the jury, he told a friend that his flatmate was moving out. “You can get in lots of straight boys darling,” said his friend. Sinaga responded with a photograph of his latest victim, passed out: “Hahaha. You mean like this one?”

Friends said Sinaga was secretive about his bedroom and they joked on WhatsApp that bodies might be ‘piling under the bed’. Photograph: CPS

“There’s always a new one,” said his friend, adding: “Fucking hell darling u get a dif straight every week.”

Friends said he was secretive about his bedroom. In January 2015, after raping a 19-year-old man, Sinaga told a WhatsApp group that he had picked up a man the previous night who had argued with his girlfriend in Factory. “SuperRey saves straight boys from their monstrous girlfriend,” he boasted, sending a photograph of the victim. One friend replied: “Finally I can see the inside of Rey’s room, I was always forbidden to go behind the magic door hahaha. “You were always screaming ‘nooo it’s too messy!’ Then we were joking male dead body were piling under the bed haha.”

Sinaga had a few short-term relationships. One female friend recalled a boyfriend who worked at the Ibis hotel opposite his flat on Princess Street. He did not cope well with rejection, she said, recalling how he threatened to drink bleach when a boyfriend broke up with him.

Another friend said it was a mystery where Sinaga got his money from – he once had seasonal work in Next and was briefly an exam invigilator, but he could not hold down a job and yet never seemed short of cash. “He was always out, always going on holiday. We wondered where he got his money because he never seemed to work,” they said. “He was always in the Village. He was one of those people who were always out. He would never be with anyone. He would cling to you and just be with you for the rest of the night.”

When word started to spread in the Gay Village that Sinaga had been arrested, many friends thought there must have been a mistake – until they learned Sinaga had filmed his attacks, cataloguing them alongside photos he took of his victims’ ID or bank cards. That he had spiked their drinks was a further shock. Friends from the Village said he was never into drugs when they knew him, in the early 2010s, and had never spoken of chemsex parties or GHB, sticking to alcohol on his many nights out.

One close friend, who collaborated with Sinaga on a photography project, said he was “a sweet, happy guy, always smiling and laughing”, liked by all. He attended St Chrysostom’s church, which prides itself on welcoming “all people regardless of ethnicity, age, relationship status, disability or sexual orientation, and regardless of how much or how little faith people have”.

Until recently, Sinaga was still pictured on a church blogpost from 2012, when he helped with a children’s Easter project and talked about the children having a “fabulous time”.

Sinaga kept ‘trophies’ including mobile phones from the men he abused. Photograph: CPS

 

The church provided a character reference for Sinaga, with the judge, Suzanne Gooddard QC, remarking during the sentencing of the second trial: “It is almost beyond belief that someone who could profess some Christian faith could at the same time have been committing such wicked and evil crimes.”

The other two references came from his mother and sister, based in Indonesia, neither of whom, said the judge, know of “the cold, cunning and calculated rapist that you are”.

His barrister struggled to find anything to say in his favour, accepting the “obvious aggravating factors in the case” and the assessment of psychiatrists and prison staff that he was highly dangerous and at great risk of reoffending.

Another friend remembered how someone from the church was helping Sinaga try to apply for refugee status “on the grounds he couldn’t be gay in Indonesia”. Whether he ever submitted an asylum claim is unclear, but Sinaga managed to keep extending his stay in the UK by eking out his PhD. “He was trying to avoid returning to Indonesia and one way to avoid that was to stay a student for ever,” said his photography friend.

Sinaga studied at Manchester University from August 2007 for an MA in sociology, and then in August 2012 began studying at Leeds University for a PhD in human geography, which he never finished. He submitted his thesis, entitled “Sexuality and everyday transnationalism among South Asian gay and bisexual men in Manchester”, in August 2016, but it failed and he was given time to make corrections.

Sinaga flitted between various groups of friends. One woman who knew him well until 2013 said he thought of himself as “a bit of a Peter Pan”. He looked younger than his age and acted it, being “narcissistic and somewhat naive to everything”. He loved taking selfies and lived his life online, posting daily photographs. The final shot was taken on 1 June 2017, the day before he was arrested, using a filter that gave him pink ears and sunglasses.

 

How serial rapist posed as a good samaritan to lure victims

Reynhard Sinaga pretended to help his victims before drugging them and filming himself raping them

• Man jailed for life for raping dozens of men in Manchester
• Reynhard Sinaga: the ‘Peter Pan’ student who raped scores of men

Helen Pidd North of England editor

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Mon 6 Jan 2020 12.20 GMT Last modified on Mon 6 Jan 2020 21.25 GMT

Factory nightclub near Reynhard Sinaga’s flat was one of the places he frequented to look for men. Photograph: Eamonn Clarke/James Clarke/PA

Reynhard Sinaga’s luck ran out shortly before 6am on 2 June 2017. For at least two-and-a-half years, the Indonesian student had honed his tactic of inviting men back to his flat in central Manchester and handing them a spiked drink on arrival.

But that morning, the drugs failed. Or perhaps he had become so complacent that he did not use any. Either way, his final victim, an 18-year-old he had met outside Factory nightclub, woke up face down with his jeans and boxer shorts around his knees. He realised Sinaga was sexually assaulting him and pushed his shorter and slighter attacker off, beating him up so badly he thought he might have killed him.

The teenager called 999 and an ambulance soon arrived at Montana House, where Sinaga had lived for five years, around the corner from the clubs where he found many of his victims. Sinaga was stretchered out and taken to hospital with a suspected bleed on the brain, while police arrested the teenager on suspicion of grievous bodily harm.

Detectives from Greater Manchester police soon realised they had detained the wrong person. They went to Manchester Royal Infirmary to question Sinaga and noticed he was behaving oddly. He was obsessed with being given his phone and repeatedly gave police the wrong password, trying to grab it from an officer when he reluctantly revealed the correct pin. After unlocking the phone, they discovered films showing Sinaga raping a series of apparently sleeping young men.

Another iPhone contained more films of more men. Months of analysis identified more than 195 different victims, who were all unconscious while Sinaga abused them. DI Zed Ali, the senior investigating officer, said it was “like trying to put together a million-piece jigsaw without the jigsaw cover”.

On one occasion, Sinaga was filmed on CCTV leaving the block where he lived and returning within a minute with his next victim. Photograph: Facebook

Investigators did not find any of the drugs Sinaga is believed to have used to knock his victims out. Police waited two days to interview the final complainant, by which time any drugs would have disappeared from his system. But the prosecution insisted the men must have been drugged, probably with gamma-hydroxybutyric acid – commonly known as GHB – or something with very similar effects.

Sometimes known as liquid ecstasy, Gina or G, the drug is popular in the gay chemsex scene. It can cause the levels of sedation, unconsciousness and incapacity seen on the videos Sinaga recorded as he abused his victims. Regular users call it “G-ing out”. On one of the clips, a mobile phone could be heard ringing at full volume but the victim did not stir; in many others, the men could be heard snoring loudly while Sinaga repeatedly raped them.

Many of Sinaga’s victims remembered him giving them a drink when they went to his flat. Some recalled being promised a “party” or simply somewhere to sleep for the night, but then had a total blackout until the following day. Only one, a 21-year-old man raped four times by Sinaga in the early hours of 21 May 2017, told the jury there was something odd about the drink he was handed.

“It looked like water but there was a solution in it, almost like salt. It wasn’t as transparent as water,” the man said, giving evidence via video link. “I think I said to him, ‘What’s this? This isn’t water’, and he said, ‘It’s water, you need to drink water’.”

The heterosexual man said he remembered nothing after that point until he woke up the next day in Sinaga’s flat with what he thought was “the worst hangover ever”. He noticed a used condom underneath a set of drawers – one of the rare times Sinaga is believed to have used protection – and asked him what had happened. “He said he had saved me, that I was passed out on the sidewalk next to Factory [a nightclub], and I said ‘OK, thank you for giving me a place to stay’. It was plausible: I was really drunk,” the man said.

Sinaga would lure men to his flat in Princess Street with the promise of a ‘party’ or simply a place to stay for the night. Photograph: CPS

In a WhatsApp group where he would boast of his sexual conquests, Sinaga once made reference to a “secret poison” he used to make heterosexual men fall in love with him. He sent the message after raping a 21-year-old man he had spotted trying to walk home after losing his bank card and running out of phone battery on a night out. Asked for his “formula” for seducing these men, Sinaga responded with: “Black magic yeah! Rey makes drink potion of gay love haha … Take a sip of my secret poison, I’ll make you fall in love.”

The drugs were so effective that only Sinaga’s final victim knew with any certainty that he had been assaulted. Until police knocked on their doors several years later, some remembered Sinaga only as the “good samaritan” who gave them a place to stay when they lost their friends or bank card, or their phone had run out of battery.

They thanked him for looking after them and felt guilty for imposing on him. Some even agreed to be his friend on Facebook. One returned with his girlfriend the following day to prove he had innocently spent the night at Sinaga’s, rather than with another woman.

Forty-eight of Sinaga’s victims agreed to give evidence against him at Manchester crown court, which meant the case had to be split into four separate trials, the first beginning in May 2018 and the final one finishing just before Christmas 2019. Some of the victims were shielded from Sinaga by screens or appeared via video link. Others were in open court.

A media blackout was imposed, banning any reporting so as not to prejudice the next jury, with the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) keeping open the possibility of charging Sinaga with more of the hundreds of rapes and sexual assaults he had filmed.

He kept souvenirs to remember his crimes – passports, watches, bank cards and driving licences – and often took screenshots of his victims’ Facebook profiles to create what the prosecutor, Iain Simkin QC, likened to a “Top Trumps” collection.

Giving evidence in the first and last of his four trials, Sinaga described himself as an “effeminate gay man” and claimed he was perceived as a “ladyboy” by his “sexually curious” victims. He said each of the 48 men approached him on the street near his flat and propositioned himbefore agreeing to go to his flat to take part in sexual role play that involved them pretending to be asleep while he penetrated them, sometimes for hours. They were lying in court, Sinaga suggested, because “it is not an easy thing to come out as gay”, and “internalised homophobia” remains widespread.

Sentencing him after the first trial, the judge, Suzanne Goddard QC, dismissed his defence as “ludicrous … that each of the males had asked you for oral sex or anal sex and had agreed to take part in your sexual fantasy by lying completely still throughout and not speaking or making any sounds, and had agreed to be filmed in the most intimate ways imaginable.”

Because Sinaga persisted with his defence, jurors had to watch the footage. All were later uniquely offered counselling.

A number of the victims vomited and still did not wake up while being abused. The films showed Sinaga carefully checking the younger men were unconscious, putting his finger in their belly buttons to see if they would react, before raping them.

A CCTV still of Sinaga, who would often walk the streets near his flat after midnight in search of victims. Photograph: Nicholas Martin/CPS

Sinaga rarely wore a condom, meaning all of the victims had to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases, though he tested negative after his arrest.

The earliest rape to come to court took place in the early hours of New Year’s Day in 2015. A 22-year-old man who, like the vast majority of Sinaga’s targets, was heterosexual, could remember nothing after going to the Ritz club in Manchester until he woke up on Sinaga’s floor covered in vomit. After the victim left the flat, embarrassed at imposing on a stranger, Sinaga texted a friend to boast that he had had his first sexual intercourse of the year with a man who was not gay. “He was straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha. Well, he was straight until we woke up naked,” he wrote.

Sinaga would typically leave his flat at about midnight and go looking for men, most often outside Factory, which was almost next door. Sometimes, he walked for a few minutes and loitered outside 5th Avenue, another club popular with students now known as Fifth Manchester. On one occasion, he was filmed on CCTV leaving Montana House and returning within a minute with his next victim.

On one weekend in September 2016, Sinaga raped two men in the space of 24 hours, one in the early hours of Saturday and the other on Sunday. The second man, a 19-year-old who had been out with his mother on Canal Street, remembered Sinaga helping him up from the pavement after he had been kicked out of a taxi. He recalled going back to Montana House but then nothing until he woke up naked in Sinaga’s bedroom the next morning. He asked Sinaga why he was not wearing clothes and was told he had been sick, so Sinaga had undressed him. They ended up having a drink together before Sinaga asked if he would have sex. The man refused, saying he had a girlfriend.

“Tellingly, you may think, there was never any conversation concerning the eight instances of sexual activity which had already taken place that morning, nor was there any mention of the defendant recording any sexual acts,” Simkin told the jury in the second trial.

Sinaga was well known in Manchester’s Gay Village and people who regularly saw him at clubs were shocked when he was arrested. Photograph: Facebook

When word began to spread in Manchester’s Gay Village that Sinaga had been arrested, there was widespread incredulity that the slight, cheerful man they often saw out dancing and giggling could be capable of such acts. In the early 2010s, he was a fixture on Canal Street, out most nights of the week at the Thompson Arms, G-A-Y or the club night Poptastic.

He had a large circle of friends, but few were close. “He was very flamboyant, had highlighted hair and was very camp,” said one man who went out regularly with Sinaga until 2013. “He was always out, always going on holiday. We wondered where he got his money because he never seemed to work.” Others thought he was a sex worker, or involved with a well-off man who funded his lifestyle.

One of his female friends remembered Sinaga had a couple of boyfriends: one who worked at the Ibis hotel opposite his flat, and another who left him distraught. “He left Rey and Rey threatened to drink bleach. He had an extreme behaviour [in response] to rejection, if that’s the right term for it,” she said.

Sinaga was constantly chatting to men on the gay dating apps Grindr and Hornet, and was very active on Facebook and Instagram. His final Facebook post was the day before his arrest. When the updates stopped, some of his friends wondered where he had gone.

In the end, it was Sinaga’s compulsion to document his crimes that caused his downfall. During sentencing after the second trial, Goddard told him: “It is ironic that were it not for the films that you took of your evil crimes, it seems that most of these offences would not have even been discovered, let alone prosecuted.”

[Guest Sgguy]

It's karma at work... Now his family and community are abandoning him...

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/father-of-britains-worst-rapist-says-punishment-fits-sons-crimes

 

His life behind the bars will not easy  if his fellow inmates took offence of his crime or his victims were to take revenge...remember Jeffrey Dahmer's case....

[singalion]

the Daily Mail , UK

 

'The punishment fits the crimes': Wealthy Indonesian property tycoon father of world's worst rapist Reynhard Sinaga supports his son's 30-year jail sentence for 195 attacks

• Reynhard Sinaga lived in a scruffy flat close to Manchester's gay village 
• The 36-year-old would boast about his family's luxury life in Indonesia  
• Life in the UK as a student was funded by money sent to him by his father

• By Richard Marsden and Richard Shears for the Daily Mail and Terri-ann Williams For Mailonline

  Published: 22:06 GMT, 7 January 2020

  Saibun Sinaga now says the family accepts the verdict delivered yesterday  

The Indonesian father of the 'world's worst rapist' Reynhard Sinaga has said the family 'accepts the verdict' after his son was convicted of scores of sex attacks.

Sinaga, 36, was jailed for 30 years on Monday in Manchester.

He had preyed on at least 195 young men and the judge ruling over the case branded him a 'monster'.

Now his father Saibun Sinaga has opened up about the ruling. It was his father's money that had allowed him to move from Indonesia to Manchester where the predator targeted students.

Speaking to BBC Indonesia Mr Sinaga said: 'We accept the verdict. His punishment fits his crimes. I don't want to discuss the case any further.' 

 

 

Privileged: Sinaga  (centre) with his property tycoon father Saibun (right) and mother Normawaty (left)

His statement comes just a day after his son was convicted of 159 attacks, including 136 rapes, eight attempted rapes and 15 indecent assaults against 48 victims.

 

Reynhard Sinaga (pictured above) is said to be Britain's most prolific rapists

Sinaga's friends at The University of Indonesia described him as 'sociable' and 'easy to get along with'.

Sinaga lived in a scruffy flat close to Manchester's gay village, but would boast of his wealthy family's luxury lifestyle back home in Indonesia. 

His life in Britain as a perpetual student was funded by money sent to him by his father, a property tycoon in the conservative South-East Asian country.

Sinaga appeared reluctant to return there because his parents Saibun and Normawaty, who did not know he was gay, wanted him to marry and settle down.

'His father is a very rich man,' one former friend recalled. 'They have a mansion in the centre of Jakarta. He would boast of maids, drivers, all sorts.'

 

 

Sinaga, who has a younger sister and brother, clearly enjoyed Manchester's liberal, tolerant lifestyle, and never hid his sexuality while living in the city.

It was the antithesis of Indonesia, where homosexuality is deeply frowned upon and still illegal in some states.

Sinaga admitted he would adopt a more conservative appearance when travelling to visit family in his homeland.

 

Sinaga (pictured above) is facing life for drugging and raping dozens of men in Manchester

The former friend said: 'My impression is that the family found him not normal but he never told them he was gay. He used to change his hair and clothes to go home.'

Sinaga's flat in Montana House was a few hundred yards from Manchester's gay village, and just around the corner from bars and nightclubs frequented by the young students he preyed upon.

He 'used to go on dates a lot' and would 'sleep around a lot too', his friend said, adding: 'His family is so rich he never worked and he would always be out in the week with different people, from what I remember.'

 

A court sketch pictured above of Sinaga (centre)  he has been jailed for life with a minimum term of 30 years 

He said Sinaga – who was 'obsessed' by the Spice Girls while he was growing up – claimed his family failed to understand him and found him 'odd'.

'His parents tried to make him meet some girl from his country. They wanted him to marry and have a family.'

Sinaga, known as Rey, came to the UK as a student in 2007, when he was 24. He completed an master's in planning at Manchester University, then continued his studies at the same institution by taking another master's degree in sociology, graduating in 2011.

After this he enrolled for a PhD in geography at Leeds University, regularly commuting there for supervisions on his thesis, entitled 'Sexuality and everyday transnationalism. South Asian gay and bisexual men in Manchester'.

 

Sinaga was brought up a Roman Catholic and remained a devout Christian while in Manchester

He wrote essays on topics such as 'queer geography', some of which were published online, but academics found his work did not meet the required standard.

Leeds University suspended him on his arrest in 2017, and expelled him after his first trial in 2018.

Sinaga was brought up a Roman Catholic and remained a devout Christian while in Manchester.

He worshipped at St John's and St Chrysostom's, a liberal Anglican church in Rusholme, around a mile from his flat.

 

There he struck up friendships with two older gay men, referring to them as 'his gay parents'.

Sinaga's conviction has come as a profound shock to his family, who regularly visited him in Britain and are believed to have made at least one trip to see him in prison.

Family friend Sahat Sinaga, a palm oil tycoon based in Jakarta, said: 'This is shocking news for them to have to face.' Sinaga's mother and sister Friska, a doctor, provided references for him at his trial. Judge Suzanne Goddard QC noted that they knew nothing of the 'cold, cunning and calculated rapist'.

Mr Sinaga agreed, saying: 'No, they wouldn't know all this. They will be shocked, deeply shocked.'

Sinaga's father has declined to comment about the case.

Sinaga would go looking for victims in the early hours of the morning, approaching lone young men around the Fifth Avenue and Factory nightclubs near his flat, the court heard.

He would 'befriend' them by chatting about university life or music, or offer assistance if they were too drunk for a taxi driver to take them home.

Victims simply thought he was trying to help them and most went willingly to his flat. But Sinaga's true nature was revealed in an online chat with another gay friend about his exploits.

The friend joked: 'There's always a new one. F****** hell, darling, you get a different straight [man] every week.' In response, Sinaga made light of the method he used to attack his victims – drugging them until they were unconscious.

'F****** hell, black magic potion,' he wrote. 'Manchester is a magical city. City of gay romance, city of gay love. Take a sip of my secret poison. It'll make you fall in love. One drop should be enough.' Having twice raped one heterosexual man in the early hours of New Year's Eve 2015, Sinaga told a friend in a sickening boast: 'I met him in the Factory [a nearby bar]. Straight, 22, playing football. He was straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha.'

The unsuspecting victim said he had 'felt guilty for having imposed himself on Mr Sinaga'.

In an exchange about another victim, a friend asked Sinaga: 'Did you meet him on [gay dating app] Grindr, darling?'

They then joked about 'Ray's room being too messy'. The friend added: 'There will be male bodies piling up under the bed.'

Sinaga replied: 'Actually it is very discreet – a straight boys' sanctuary. They are hiding in my closet.'

The friend likened Sinaga to 'Robin Hood, stealing from the straights to give to the gays'.

One woman who knew Sinaga well until 2013 told The Guardian he thought of himself as 'a bit of a Peter Pan'. She described him as 'narcissistic and somewhat naive to everything'.

Passing sentence, Judge Goddard said Sinaga had shown 'not a jot of remorse and indeed at times during the case seemed to actually be enjoying the trial process'.

He had grown his hair long and took notes during the trials. At one stage he even appeared to mock the prosecutor for his views on sex.

 

Sinaga hunted for drunk young men around nightclubs near his flat in Manchester (above)

 

Spirit bottles at Sinaga's flat are pictured. He is thought to have drugged the men when giving them a drink from his selection of alcohol

He claimed it was 'a bit discriminatory' to say his exploits were 'not like normal sex', and accused prosecutor Iain Simkin of believing sex could 'only be between a man and a woman'. Under cross-examination, Sinaga claimed his victims willingly participated in a '50 Shades of Grey'-style sex game – a reference to the best-selling EL James novel about a sado-masochistic affair – and were only pretending to be asleep.

But in videos shown to Manchester Crown Court, one man could be seen motionless on the floor for 37 minutes, while another had a sheet put over his face. Several could be heard snoring. A laughing Sinaga told jurors: 'Just because it looks weird or 50 Shades of Grey or something like that, a strange sexual fantasy, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

'It happens underground, it's common.'

The 5ft 7ins, softly-spoken rapist claimed he was 'very gentle, caring and sensitive' as he had sex with his victims as part of the game, rather than acting 'creepily' so as not to wake them up. In some of the footage, he could be seen moving away from his victims and turning out the light if they stirred so they would go back to sleep.

 

A map of Manchester city centre shows where Sinaga's flat (in red) is located along with the nightclubs Factory and Fifth Avenue, which many of the complainants had earlier been to

Asked about his sexuality, Sinaga said: 'I am openly gay.' He agreed that he would describe himself as 'flamboyant'. He said: 'I make myself available all the time. For some I may look like a lady boy, which seems popular among curious young men looking for a gay experience. I am effeminate. It is natural in me.'

Sinaga said he chose his flat in central Manchester because 'I wanted to live among the gay community and near the gay village', adding that he went out there 'most nights'.

Back in Indonesia, Sinaga's family and friends have been cutting their ties with him, removing links and pictures on social media.

His face has vanished from the Facebook pages of those who listed him as a friend. No one could possibly blame them. 

 

 

 

[singalion]

Rapist claimed victims enjoyed sex game of pretending to be dead 

Reynhard Sinaga told jurors he had sex with strangers on the floor of his flat because he did not want to 'make a mess of my bed'.

He claimed the complainants approached him in the street in central Manchester shortly before they went to his nearby apartment, where they agreed to indulge his fantasy of sexual activity while they pretended to be dead.

Furthermore, the men also gave their consent to him filming the intercourse on his mobile phone, he said.

It was a defence labelled in court as 'ludicrous' and was soundly rejected by each of four separate juries which unanimously convicted Sinaga of all the sexual allegations he faced.

Prosecutor Iain Simkin picked apart Sinaga's version of events when the 36-year-old Indonesian student chose to enter the witness box last month at his fourth trial involving 13 complainants.

When Mr Simkin asked him if he understood the prosecution case - that he was a serial rapist who incapacitated his victims - Sinaga repeatedly replied: 'I disagree but I understand.'

Sinaga said each of the men had enjoyed the sexual encounters and, although they presented as straight, he thought they were bisexual at the very least.

Mr Simkin pointed out that there was no conversation with the complainants during the videos that Sinaga filmed and there was no kissing.

He said: 'So, for all of these 13 men they all say 'Yes, I will lie on the floor, not on the bed'. Why not on the bed?'

Sinaga said: 'Because we were sitting on the floor and I also didn't want to make a mess of my bed.'

Mr Simkin said: 'Why not just say 'Let's just get on the bed'?'

Sinaga said: 'My bed is squeaky.'

Mr Simkin said: You have just made that up. My questions are too difficult to answer. Your account is an absurdity, isn't it?'

'I disagree,' replied Sinaga.

Mr Simkin said: 'Your case must be that someone who has never met you before allows you, within 15 or 20 minutes, to record yourself penetrating them?'

'Yes,' said the defendant.

Mr Simkin went on: 'They have no idea who you are but they allow you to keep the most intimate and, in my submission, the most grotesque photographs for yourself?'

Sinaga said: 'I keep them for myself. There is no evidence that I uploaded them on to the internet.'

The barrister retorted: 'So what?'

Sinaga said: 'It's a sexual fantasy. Just because it looks weird and Fifty Shades Of Grey or anything like that, strange sexual fantasy happens underground ... it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.'

Sinaga claimed that other sexual activity took place with the complainants which was not filmed, such as him performing oral sex or them penetrating him.

Asked why he kept screenshots of some of the complainants' social media profiles, he said: 'Just in case in future we could be friends.'

Mr Simkin said: 'Not you keeping a record of people you had raped, a 'Top Trumps' of people you had raped?'

'No,' said Sinaga.

The defendant suggested that each complainant individually lied to the police when they were contacted years later to preserve their heterosexual identity.

Mr Simkin said: 'They could easily have said to protect themselves 'I don't want to say anything'. Either not co-operate with the police or say 'I did have sex with him but please don't do anything about it'?'

Sinaga said: 'They could have probably many other reasons not to. For example, if wanting to protect their relationship.

'It is not an easy thing for some people to come out as gay. That has probably influenced the way they want to answer it.

'They were probably scared that 'What if my girlfriend finds out I was lying and that night I was with a man?'.'

Mr Simkin said: 'They have not got a reason to lie because they are not lying. They have been been incapacitated and raped by you.'

Sinaga said: 'No, they are embarrassed.'

Mr Simkin told Manchester Crown Court that some of the men were snoring during the filming.

He put it to Sinaga: 'You can't really pretend to snore, it's like a child pretending. That's not what your hear on the videos. They are unconscious, aren't they?'

'No, I disagree,' replied Sinaga.

Sinaga was asked by the barrister to pretend to snore himself and did so for a few seconds.

Mr Simkin pointed out that one of the complainants snored for 13 minutes.

He said: 'It is impossible, I suggest, to pretend to emulate that level of unconsciousness. He simply is unconscious.'

Sinaga replied: 'No.'

[singalion]

Now my personal comment on the case: (parental guidance advised!):

 

1. There are these rich kids from Indonesian rich guys who think they can do anything. Still studying with 36y with no great degree, never worked in life and maybe parents are happy he is at least doing something instead of annoying them in Indonesia. Eventually roots were set wrong from the parents throwing money to the kids and never teaching them on what is relevant in life: being self sustainable and not to rely on parent's money. Life was too easy for Sinaga, what made him lose touch to reality. Just wonder why the parents never stopped him from wasted fees for studies overseas?

2. The cases only refer to a span of 2 years but my personal guess is, it happened shortly after he came to UK already. This means there are plenty of guys before 2015.

3. What I don't understand is, how the victims never had any "itches" at their anus. I mean someone raping you 3 times to 8 times (there is one case with 8 rapes) in one night, no bleeding, no pain? No leakage of cum from the anus? Sure after having taking the drug you feel numb somehow, but the anus must have some injury if entering was forceful. But maybe the reason is a different, why the guys did not feel the penetration afterwards, refer to No. 7.

4. What is the thrill to fuck a near to dead body who snores and does not reciprocate? Give him a kiss because his snoring is so sweet? I don't see how that can be in the long term a thrill. You always have these vomiting guys, smelly, aspiring, alcohol reeking young guys and loud snoring guys. I can imagine other things in my sexual desires...

5. It is clear to me, the criminal did not get what he wanted by "normal means". I guess he faced plenty of rejections and due to desperation lured the straight guys to have sex with guys he simply did not get at all. Making a judgment: he was plain desperate for sex but nobody entertained him or he faced too many rejections by normal ways of dating. One point to support this, he prayed on straight guys. The usual gay would have looked for gay gays.

6. At one point he told the court he sucked the dicks, but to my personal experience, you won't be hard if you are dead drunk or they get hard but soften soon after quickly again, once the gorgeously good looking British boy snored away.... he told a lot at the court hearing, must not be any truth.

7. He was a top, but I very much guess probably not that big tooled. I even tend to guess he is extremely far below average in his size. I guess he received 8 out of 10 rejections from the Caucasian gay guys and most had no intention for any sex with him. He was turned down by other gay guys when it came to sex. Why would you start luring straight guys to your flat, drug them and rape them? You probably would not need to do this, if you live openly gay and are attractive to others. But if you only receive rejections from other gays? I can only assume. But it seems obvious to me. He mostly was rejected by the Manchester gay guys.

8. The whole thing of luring the guys to the flat sounds quite desperate to me. You imagine having sex with cute British young boys but in fact it is just "overpowering" by fucking a dead drugged body. Is that something thrilling? Maybe it reflects a very narcissistic behaviour: You don't want me, I don't get what I want, but then I just take what I want. Somehow to me this is not even "overpowering" because the other party is not aware what is going on and unresponsive. The rape is his only chance to get sex with Caucasian guys. That is what I sense.

9. Ok, maybe a rape fetish. But, if a rape arouses you, you did not have the fear, shouts to stop from the other person. The other person was not responding just sleeping and even worse unconscious. Would this satisfy a rape fetish if you are the rapist and get aroused by such rape scenarios? Here I come back to No. 5. He received a majority of rejections from others. 

Even if you play a rape, both guys would be acting and the "bottom" to be the victim, crying, begging to stop and so on, our scenario: The victim is snoring, vomiting, sleeping, unconscious, would this satisfy a rapist? Not at all because he wants the victim to feel his superiority and power. Nothing as such with Sinaga. He only used defenceless young straight Brit boys (because he failed to get the real gay sex with other gay guys). 

10. My personal guess, the criminal started this probably by chance, one guy was drunk outside, he didn't get home, Sinaga took him home, probably did not drug him and hoped to get some sex. As it did not work out in his way because the guys were straight and the guys did not respond to his advances, the Sinaga started drugging them and just use them for his sexual satisfaction. He started to develop a weird perverted sexual habit...

11. I find it interesting for his parents having funded him for 12 years for "studying" in the UK after he graduated in Indonesia in 2006. I don't want to blame the parents, but I m sure there has been contribution by some means. Either too authoritarian or simply not caring because they had not been around when Sinaga was young. Later just throwing the money to him without looking what he really does.  Most other parents would have just capped the ties and not support him financially any longer.

But I find it unfair for the media, pulling his family into the picture.

 

Summary:

Acts of a guy who lost touch to reality, pampered with parents money, desperate, sexually rejected by others, not the sexual object he wanted to be for others and had to resort to these nasty way to get his sexual satisfaction and lost the feel what real sexuality even gay sexuality is about.

[Guest guest]

On 1/6/2020 at 11:49 PM, johnsonklt said:

wow he is good looking ley

dun mind to be fuck by him  😁

he got nice figure

How you know he got nice figure?

[Guest guest]

Luckily he didn't killed those guys he assault.

[Guest Guest]

I believe the rapist's statement! 
 

IF victims did not enjoy, then, why so many men kenna poked still remained silence and not police report made against Reynhard Sinaga? 
IF victims really sexually assaulted, they could have po-mata right away already!

Make sense?

No wonder Straits Times published such negative article to educate public that gayism is very likely to cause social problem in Singapore. Indirectly, telling public that repeal 377A is useless. 

[Guest Guest]

11 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

I believe the rapist's statement! 
 

IF victims did not enjoy, then, why so many men kenna poked still remained silence and not police report made against Reynhard Sinaga? 
IF victims really sexually assaulted, they could have po-mata right away already!

Make sense?

No wonder Straits Times published such negative article to educate public that gayism is very likely to cause social problem in Singapore. Indirectly, telling public that repeal 377A is useless. 

 

Article talked over and over again about him drugging his victims. You know how to read or not? 

[Guest Guest]

31 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Article talked over and over again about him drugging his victims. You know how to read or not? 

NO 1.

A woman kenna drug and sexually assaulted also know how to report!
A man kenna drug and sexually assaulted don't know how to report?!

 

NO 2.
If you believe the newspaper, you are an idiot. 

 

NO 3.
There are many types of drugs in this world
You can be drugged but still conscious. 
You can be drugged but still remain half conscious. 

Who knows, may be victims enjoyed and agreed being mildly drugged. There are all kinds of gays having fetish!

 

NO 4.
Tell me why the victims of "159 attacks, including 136 rapes, eight attempted rapes and 15 indecent assaults" so kum-gorng?! Must wait until 2017 then kenna caught?

L.J.L.
 

[Guest puzzled]

I’m just puzzled why none of the 100 over guys he raped previously found nothing amiss or strange. 
If it’s just a few guys, can understand, but 100 over??

[Guest Try and see]

11 hours ago, Guest puzzled said:

I’m just puzzled why none of the 100 over guys he raped previously found nothing amiss or strange. 
If it’s just a few guys, can understand, but 100 over??

 

It can only mean one thing: that guy's cock is very small.

 

Because if you get raped by a guy with a huge cock while unconscious, you will feel a burning pain in your ass when you wake up.

 

The fact that not one of the men felt anything means that his cock size is negligible.