Semen Retention

[CuriousB]

I was in a manhood therapy today and the masseur shared with me about semen retention techniques and benefit - which is suppose to retain our energy vitality.

i did some reading and it seems to have very contrast views on it.

has anyone tried this orgasm without ejaculation thingy? thanks

[Guest boya]

I have been using this method for more than 10 years. I first read about it in the Taoist book called "Secrets of the Golden Flower". I dun think ths out of print book can be found here, I read it in Melbourne. It is a classic text teaching people about various method of achieving longetivity and one of the methods used is using your PC muscles to control yourself from ejaculating. Of course most of us dun have such powerful PC muscles. So an alternative for beginners is to used 3 fingers to press against the PC area (soft spot between anus and balls) before the first rush of semen occurs. By using this method, you experience the intensity of ejaculation without feeling drained. And it also recharges your whole body like a battery. Then you can do it again and again and the feeling gets extended longer than a normal ejaculation.

[Guest CuriousHunk]

I have been using this method for more than 10 years. I first read about it in the Taoist book called "Secrets of the Golden Flower". I dun think ths out of print book can be found here, I read it in Melbourne. It is a classic text teaching people about various method of achieving longetivity and one of the methods used is using your PC muscles to control yourself from ejaculating. Of course most of us dun have such powerful PC muscles. So an alternative for beginners is to used 3 fingers to press against the PC area (soft spot between anus and balls) before the first rush of semen occurs. By using this method, you experience the intensity of ejaculation without feeling drained. And it also recharges your whole body like a battery. Then you can do it again and again and the feeling gets extended longer than a normal ejaculation.

I came across a smiliar Taoist book at Borders a couple of years back. Don't know if they still have it. Very interesting stuff about sex I must say.

[soxite]

I came across a smiliar Taoist book at Borders a couple of years back. Don't know if they still have it. Very interesting stuff about sex I must say.

I read something about this in a gay magazine in Australia long time ago ... I think there are certain truths in it ... just wonder how it is done ... do you think I can google it?

[GachiMuchi]

Yes, Taoist practices cultivation (固) of the semen (精 = essence). 泻精 which in the Taoist practice means the "expel" of essence (精). Therefore, the Taoist believe that for one to have longevity one should cultivate one's own semen and not let it expelled out of our bodies.

[snowball]

TAOISM AND SEX

In China, Taoism has both a philosophical and a religious tradition. Although philosophical Taoism flourished early in the fifth century B.C.E., Taoism as a religion did not develop until the first century C.E. Next to Confucianism, it ranks as the second major belief system in traditional Chinese thought. The philosophy of Taoism is outlined in Lao-tzu's Tao-te Ching, offering a practical way of life. Later, its teachings came to be utilized in the popular religion called Tao-chiao. In the Chinese tradition, the two have been separate, but in the West they have often been confused under the one name Taoism.

Lao-tzu's Tao-te Ching is so important for China that it has been argued that Chinese civilization and the Chinese character would have been utterly different if the book had never been written. No one can hope to understand Chinese philosophy, religion, government, art, medicine, sexology—or even cooking—without an appreciation of the philosophy taught in this little book. It is said that where Confucianism emphasizes social order and an active life, Taoism concentrates on individual life and tranquility.

Both philosophical Taoism and religious Taoism included in their classics many positive ideas about sex. The historical founder of the Taoist religion was Chang Ling, a popular religious leader and rebel. He urged his followers to read the Tao-te Ching and, in 143 C.E., organized them into Tao-chiao, or the Taoist religion. His followers called him Tien Shih, "Heavenly Teacher." After the founding of the Taoist religion, two major schools developed. One, Zheng Yi Pai ("Orthodox Unity School"), that is, Tien Shih Tao, was a highly organized religion. The other Taoist school, Quan Zhen Pai'm ("Perfect Realization School"), sought immortality through meditation, breathing exercises, bathing, gymnastics, sexual arts, medicines, chemistry, and other means. A measure of systemization was brought to this second school of Taoism by Wei Poyang (second century C.E.), who, in his Chou-i-ts'an-t'ung-chi (Textual Research on the Taoist and Magical Interpretation of the Book of Changes, or, in short, Ts'an-tung-chi), attempted to synthesize Taoist techniques for achieving immortality and teachings of the occult I Ching (Book of Change).

Later, the Perfect Realization School itself became divided into two major branches: the Northern Branch, which for centuries had its headquarters at Beijing's White Cloud Monastery and recognized Wang Chongyang (1112-1170 C.E.) as its founder; and the Southern Branch, which recognized Zhang Baiduan (Ziyang Zhenren) (984-1082) as its Original Master (hence, it was also called Ziyang Branch). The difference between the Northern and Southern branches, in a word, is that the Northern Branch denied fang zhong (sexual intercourse techniques) and the Southern Branch favored fang zhong as the way to achieve longevity and immortality. Zhang Baiduan wrote Wu Chen Phien (Poetical Essay on Realizing the Necessity of Regenerating the Primary Vitalities) before the division of Northern and Southern branches, and it is the basic book of Taoist sexual regimen.

Taoist sexual techniques were developed on the basis of the fang shu, also called fang zhong, or fang zhong shu. The meaning of these three Chinese words for sexual intercourse techniques are exactly the same, literally "inside the bedchamber" or "the art in bedroom." Fang-shu was created by a combination of experts: fang-shih (alchemists or prescription writers), fang-zhong-jia (experts on sexual techniques or ancient sexologists), and physicians in or before the Han dynasty (206 B.C.E.—220 C.E.); mainly it belonged to the medical field.

For descriptive and analytic purposes, the entire Taoist sexual system may be divided into two categories: (1) beliefs or myths, and (2) methods or techniques.

The major Taoist sexual belief is that longevity or immortality are attainable by sexual activity. One way for men to achieve this is by having intercourse with virgins, particularly young virgins. In Taoist sexual books, the woman sexual partner is called ding, originally an ancient cooking vessel with two loop handles and three or four legs, used in the practice of alchemy. The Taoist sexual books, such as the Hsuan wei Hshin (Mental Images of the Mysteries and Subtleties of Sexual Techniques') and San Feng Tan Cheueh (Zhang Sanfeng's Instructions in the Physiological Alchemy), written, respectively, by Zhao Liang Pi and Zhang San Feng, state that the most desirable ding is a girl about 14, 15, or 16 years old just before or after menarche. Zhang Sanfeng went further and divided ding into three ranks: the lowest rank, 21- to 25-year-old women; the middle rank, 16- to 20-year-old menstruating virgin girls; and the highest rank, 14-year-old premenarche virgin girls.

There was also a belief in the desirability of multiple sexual partners. For example, Sun Simiao, in his Prescriptions Worth a Thousand Gold, wrote that the art of the bedchamber was for a man to copulate on one night with ten different women without emitting semen a single time. Ability to control ejaculation was a key for both men and women. For men, it was called cai Yin pu Yang (gathering a woman's yin to nourish a man's yang) and for women cai Yang pu Yin (gathering a man's yang to nourish a woman's yin). The technique was a secret and a learned one, since it was most desirable to have one's partner reach orgasm without having orgasm oneself. This was particularly important for the male, because by practicing coitus reservatus it was believed that the semen found its way to the brain, huan jing pu lau (making the seminal essence return to nourish the brain). Thus, at the point of orgasm, the male prevents or interrupts ejaculation by pressing the "point" at the base of the penis. Taoist belief further emphasizes that sexual satisfaction may be derived from coitus without ejaculation.

The major Taoist sexual techniques include teaching how to master the differences of sexual arousal of male and female, harmonizing the sexual will and desire, and liberating and activating the female while relaxing the male.

For example, the Taoist sex handbook True Manual of the "Perfected Equalization" states:

In the Taoist master's sexual "battle" (to give the woman an orgasm while avoiding ejaculation), his enemy is the woman. He should begin by touching her vulva, kissing her lips and tongue, and touching her breasts, making her highly aroused. But he should keep himself under control, his mind as detached as if it were floating in the azure sky, his body sunk into nothingness. He must close his eyes, avoid looking at the woman, and maintain an utter nonchalance so that his own passion is not roused. When she makes sexual movements, the man must remain still rather than take any action. When her hand actively touches the penis, the man avoids her caress. The man can employ stillness and relaxation, to overcome the woman's excitement and movement.

It is important for the male to understand the female sexual responses so he can penetrate her at the appropriate time, use the correct sexual postures, positions and movements that include controlled breathing, preventing ejaculation by stopping and pressing the base of the penis and achieving sexual satisfaction by coitus without ejaculation. Interestingly though, women also had their own techniques that are not discussed in the manuals that were written for men. These techniques remained women's secrets. Still the use of the male technique can be used to prolong the sexual act and contribute to the pleasure of both partners. Many modern sex therapists have adapted the Taoist sexual teachings as a way to treat premature ejaculation and other sexual dysfunctions.

http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/GESUND/ARCHIV/SEN/CH23.HTM#b1-TAOISM%20AND%20SEX

[snowball]

The Art of Sexuality in China

Treatises

The ancient sexual teachings were mainly transmitted through sex treatises or manuals. These texts were widely distributed and conceived as guides for couples, but mainly for the head of the family. The texts taught both men and women how to have healthy children and how live long and happy lives by practicing harmonious sexual relations. The manuals also explain different positions for having relations and were sometimes given as gifts to the bride in order to have her prepared to fully satisfy her future husband. For this reason the manuals were kept next to the bed and were consulted while making love or to stimulate a shy partner.

Selections from the Notes of the Bedchamber(房內記)

The five feminine signs

The Yellow Emperor asked: "¿How can I know if a woman is close to having an orgasm?

The Simple Girl answered: "A woman presents five signs and five desires, in addition to ten ways in which she moves her body during the relation". These are the five signs:

First: she blushes, now the man can come close to her. Second, her nipples become hard and her nose is humid, then the man can enter into her slowly. Third, her mouth becomes dry and she swallows her saliva, then the man can begin to move slowly inside of her. Fourth, her private parts become wet, then the man can penetrate her deeply. Fifth, the secretions for her private parts fall over her buttocks, then the man can move as he wishes.

The Five Femenine Desires

The Simple Girl said: "Through the five desires one can understand a woman's reaction. First, if she is thinking of having relations, her breathing will become irregular. Second, if her vagina wishes to have relations, then her nostrils and mouth will open up. Third, if her sexual energy desires to become exited, she will move her body. Fourth, if she wants to satisfy her desire, the liquid coming from her private parts will wet her clothes. Fifth, if she is about to have an orgasm, she will extend her body and close her eyes.

The Yellow Emperor asked: I have heard about the nine positions, but I do not know how to practice them. I would like you to explain how to practice them. I want you to explain them to me, so that I know their ends. I will guard and practice these secrets carefully.

The Enigmatic Girl answered: the first of the nine positions is called

The Flying Dragon.The woman is on her back, the man positions himself over her with his knees placed on the bed. The woman opens the Portal of Jade and the man, from above, inserts his Jade Stalk inside the Cave with the form of a grain. Then he begins to move slowly, with eight shallow motions and two deep and must enter softly and withdraw hard. Then he should stimulate the superior part of the Portal of Jade. If these motions are done with the right purchase, the woman will receive great satisfaction and will become wild with joy.

The second position is called

The Tiger's Walk.One must place the woman n her knees facing down with her buttocks raised and her head down. The man comes from behind and embraces her. Then he inserts the Jade Stalk in her interior. He must penetrate her deeply and continuously with five short motions and eight deep ones. The right rhythm will develop spontaneously and then her private parts will contract and open with the motions, then she will produce so much liquid that it will emanate out of her. When this happens, then one should rest. Then the hundred sicknesses will be prevented and the man will have more vigor.

The Third position is called

The Jumping Monkey.The woman is placed face up and the man raises her legs until her knees touch her breasts and her buttocks and lower back are raised in the air. Then, he inserts the Jade Stalk into the Fragant Mouse. When the woman becomes excited then her liquid will pour like abundant rain. The man will presses her down, as if he was feeling enraged. One must stop once the woman has reached orgasm and the hundred sicknesses will be cured on their own.

The Fourth position is called

Mating Cicadas.. The woman lies face down and the man lies in top of her. Then the man inserts his Jade Stalk inside of her Red Pearl by lifting her buttocks. If he moves with six brief motions and nine deep ones then her private parts will flow with abundant liquid and contract with pleasure. The man must finish after she has reached orgasm and this will cure the seven pains.

The Fifth position is called

The Mounting Turtle. The woman lies on her back and her legs and lifted. The man pushes her feet until her legs touch her breasts. Then he inserts deeply his Jade Stalk until he reaches her deepest valley. He must penetrate her in the appropriate measure aiming for her center. This will bring the woman great pleasure and her body will move while her private parts become wet with many liquid. The man must penetrate her deeply and then withdraw when the woman has reached orgasm; if you guard your vital energy your strength will increase a hundred times.

http://china.emperadoramarillo.net/treatises.html

[snowball]

Semen Retention

For many men, to retain semen is not the norm. Most men try to lose as much as they possibly can, but for the Chinese martial artist, semen retention is a part of the life-force, or energy that's needed for good health, stamina, strength and longevity. Having said that, we Chinese martial artists love having sex, it's just very important to retain the semen. When you use it, you lose it. Have you noticed that women live longer than men? That's because they don't orgasm as much as men, therefore, not losing their life-force.

In times gone by, the more well-to-do Chinese had many concubines. These were women that the man of the house would engage in sexual pleasure with. It was thought that he had so many women just for pleasure, and because he was rich, he could afford so many woman. It was thought, that he had so many women so he could "lay his seed" in them. Actually, he was bedding them to make them reach climax, this way he could steal their energy. How could these men sleep with so many women and not reach orgasm themselves? How were they able to keep their semen, and steal their lovers life-force? They practiced what is called semen retention exercises.

It's a common misconception that all Chinese people know martial arts. In the old days, martial arts were only taught to the rich, military, and to the Imperial Guards. Internal, or "closed door" martial arts were only taught to the high ranking officers and the most elite of Chinese society. They were the privileged, they were the only people "good" enough to receive this type of training. Semen retention exercises were only taught to those in this "closed door" setting.

Semen retention exercises are very simple to do, and take very little time. The exercises are done in the evening when you're going to bed. You will also practice all day whenever you have to urinate. Then there are the exercises that you have to practice while you are making love. In the beginning you will start notice that you can last longer with your lover, as you continue with the exercises, you will have control over your orgasm, and ejaculate when you want to. Early in the practice of semen retention, you will last 15 to 25 minutes, as you progress, you will find yourself lasting 45 minutes to an hour! Keep doing the exercises and when you reach climax, you will feel the orgasm, but you will not ejaculate.

Some simple exercises to begin practicing would be to stop the flow of urination. When urinating, constrict your sphincter by squeezing your butt cheeks together. This technique is called the "pelvic lock". Do this exercise daily, also put the pelvic lock into place several times during urination. Another simple exercise to do is performed while you are making love. When you start to feel like the orgasm is coming on (don't wait too long) put the pelvic lock on, then start rubbing the tip of your penis up and down her vaginal opening, thus stimulating her, while you get control of your orgasm.

What happens when you are lasting longer with her in bed, and bringing her to climax, making her orgasm, your penis will act like a straw, sucking the energy out of her, and depositing her strength and energy into your "life-force account". Listen, haven't you noticed after having sex and you ejaculate, you're ready to go to sleep. If she didn't orgasm, she's ready to go watch television. You got her excited, hot, ready to go, heated up, then gave her your energy, your strength, your life-force. Keep doing this and she will live longer, be healthier, but definitely not happier.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Semen-Retention&id=54421

[4ever75]

Gents,

I just wonder if regular practice of this Semen Retention, will it cause any harm to the penis?

Cos regular hold the flow of urine, does it harm the 'balls?

Cos i rem doctor advice us not to hold back urine when need to release.

Hope to hear more from u guys.. Thanks .. cheers.

[GachiMuchi]

Does it apply to men fxxking men? hehe

[4ever75]

Does it apply to men fxxking men? hehe

err.. i was referring to practicing the retention... i also not sure.. keen to learn tho..

[snsunny]

Interesting topic.. could it be a myth about Semen Retention and the methods being used to perfect it.

Just my doubts and no offends whatsoever.. if after all the play and we did not ejaculate, in order to retain the CHI..isn't it would come to a point which we would have our wet dream when it could not hold too much sperm..so what's the different??? thx

[Guest osrich]

Listen to our body and we'll be free from dis-ease.

Sperm are essence (super nutrient) in contrast to sweat, a waste product.

Sperm takes a longer time to produce, in contrast to sweat.

As a very rough guide,

To stay youthful and healthy, we can have sex as often as we wish, but without ejeculation.

During puberty, a boy sperm productivity is high, he can afford to masterbate and cum daily.

During 30s, sperm production stabled, can enjoy sex daily, but cum maybe 3 times/ wk?

After 40s, sperm production reduced (depending on one's fitness ) can have sex daily, but cum max 1/ wk.

Beyond 50s, cum once/ 2 wks...

Respect our body and don't strain beyond it's limits.

[fab]

For men, how or what is sex (considered) without cumming?

[GachiMuchi]

During puberty, a boy sperm productivity is high, he can afford to masterbate and cum daily.

During 30s, sperm production stabled, can enjoy sex daily, but cum maybe 3 times/ wk?

After 40s, sperm production reduced (depending on one's fitness ) can have sex daily, but cum max 1/ wk.

When I was in my 20s I jo and cummed everyday.

30s fxxk at least 2 - 3 times a week (some times more), every week .

Now, I m in my 40s, I do have a period where I am in low key mode and high key mode like this week where I cummed for the last few days (Tue, Wed and Thu).

Going by your post, since I cummed 3 times for this week so I must be very fit or very ab-normal for my age lah.

[snowball]

many even say that after you have sex and cum, do not shower immediately, else very bad for men health

[cock brand]

Gents,

I just wonder if regular practice of this Semen Retention, will it cause any harm to the penis?

Cos regular hold the flow of urine, does it harm the 'balls?

Cos i rem doctor advice us not to hold back urine when need to release.

Hope to hear more from u guys.. Thanks .. cheers.

You've got it all wrong liao!

There is another name for this excercise; it is known as KEGEL My link

You DO NOT hold back your urine when practicing; it won't harm your penis and its got nothing to do with your balls!

Some guys just don't know where is their PC muscle!

To locate your PC muscle, when urinating, try to stop halfway suddenly.

The muscle you contract to stop the urine flow is your PC muscle.

Another way to locate the PC muscle is when you have an erection; if you are able to flip your penis up and down handsfree, you are effectively contracting the PC muscle.

You can only practice after you locate your PC muscle!

[cock brand]

many even say that after you have sex and cum, do not shower immediately, else very bad for men health

Old wives tales lah.

Some also say you don't wash hair at night, can get "tao hong".

You believe?

[Guest guest]

Actually there is no such thing as semen retention la. Just like alot of marketing gimmicks. Some choose to believe it. Even kegel, it is not true too.. Basically just exercise your penis. If you are a healthy man and JO occasionally, that is alreadi considered exercising your boi boi. So no need to spend extra money for all thise stuff..similar to those using whatever equipment to have six pac..blah blah..etc Maybe some of us are so desperate as a result being exploited by some unscrupulous businessman...i.e if you want to have your boi boi looks longer, then shave the pubic hair or keep it short, you will notice it is much bigger liao...

[Guest Boya]

I can vouch that the retention method is very useful to a man. I have been doing it for more than 10 years now. I am nearly 40 and I ejaculate almost everyday using this retention method and I have never felt tired after "cumming". The ancient Toaist book focused on using the energy of cumming to "burn" the semen into a stream of energy that you can use to circulate your whole body. This is a useful method for many aging men with poor health to reguvinate their bodies and to achieve longevity. Maybe we can have a open workshop on this for those who are not shy because I am most willing to teach people who are willing to learn this method, FOC of course. It is very simple and only need more practice. Benefits include increased immune system against illnesses, youthful looks and skin and of course, very hard erections with powerful ejaculations (if you choose to). I am the living example of the secrets of this ancient Toaist practice.

[Guest premature]

I can vouch that the retention method is very useful to a man. I have been doing it for more than 10 years now. I am nearly 40 and I ejaculate almost everyday using this retention method and I have never felt tired after "cumming". The ancient Toaist book focused on using the energy of cumming to "burn" the semen into a stream of energy that you can use to circulate your whole body. This is a useful method for many aging men with poor health to reguvinate their bodies and to achieve longevity. Maybe we can have a open workshop on this for those who are not shy because I am most willing to teach people who are willing to learn this method, FOC of course. It is very simple and only need more practice. Benefits include increased immune system against illnesses, youthful looks and skin and of course, very hard erections with powerful ejaculations (if you choose to). I am the living example of the secrets of this ancient Toaist practice.

I'm in my 30s and keen to know more. Wonder will it cure my premature ejaculation? How to contact u?

[cock brand]

I can vouch that the retention method is very useful to a man. I have been doing it for more than 10 years now. I am nearly 40 and I ejaculate almost everyday using this retention method and I have never felt tired after "cumming". The ancient Toaist book focused on using the energy of cumming to "burn" the semen into a stream of energy that you can use to circulate your whole body. This is a useful method for many aging men with poor health to reguvinate their bodies and to achieve longevity. Maybe we can have a open workshop on this for those who are not shy because I am most willing to teach people who are willing to learn this method, FOC of course. It is very simple and only need more practice. Benefits include increased immune system against illnesses, youthful looks and skin and of course, very hard erections with powerful ejaculations (if you choose to). I am the living example of the secrets of this ancient Toaist practice.

哗 “久硬真茎” 重现江湖！

[CuriousB]

thanks for the info Boya

may i know how to contact you.

cheers

I can vouch that the retention method is very useful to a man. I have been doing it for more than 10 years now. I am nearly 40 and I ejaculate almost everyday using this retention method and I have never felt tired after "cumming". The ancient Toaist book focused on using the energy of cumming to "burn" the semen into a stream of energy that you can use to circulate your whole body. This is a useful method for many aging men with poor health to reguvinate their bodies and to achieve longevity. Maybe we can have a open workshop on this for those who are not shy because I am most willing to teach people who are willing to learn this method, FOC of course. It is very simple and only need more practice. Benefits include increased immune system against illnesses, youthful looks and skin and of course, very hard erections with powerful ejaculations (if you choose to). I am the living example of the secrets of this ancient Toaist practice.

[Guest Guest]

" The five feminine signs

The Yellow Emperor asked: "¿How can I know if a woman is close to having an orgasm?

The Simple Girl answered: "A woman presents five signs and five desires, in addition to ten ways in which she moves her body during the relation". These are the five signs:

First: she blushes, now the man can come close to her. Second, her nipples become hard and her nose is humid, then the man can enter into her slowly. Third, her mouth becomes dry and she swallows her saliva, then the man can begin to move slowly inside of her. Fourth, her private parts become wet, then the man can penetrate her deeply. Fifth, the secretions for her private parts fall over her buttocks, then the man can move as he wishes.

The Five Femenine Desires

The Simple Girl said: "Through the five desires one can understand a woman's reaction. First, if she is thinking of having relations, her breathing will become irregular. Second, if her vagina wishes to have relations, then her nostrils and mouth will open up. Third, if her sexual energy desires to become exited, she will move her body. Fourth, if she wants to satisfy her desire, the liquid coming from her private parts will wet her clothes. Fifth, if she is about to have an orgasm, she will extend her body and close her eyes."

OMG, I have all the five desires when cruised by a good top

I breathe hard when he approaches

I open my mouth to moan softly when he touches me

I move and bend myself to let him finger me

His finger slide in easily because I open up and wet myself. When I try to finger myself, I always find it difficult to get in but with him, he slide in because of this desire

I close when eyes take up positions when he fxxked me good. No wonder there is a topic on closing eyes when being taken. He wants to see my desires.

Then the five signs are also so accurate

I blush too when he caress my body

he radio my nipples and squeeze my man boobs while penetrating me to distract my pain

I moan and gasp when he starts moving inside me

I don't secret but I start leaking precum which he will check

But when he gets me high, the lub and sweat will start to wet my butts, Then he uses me in many positions.

OMG, I just got fxxked by a Hubei guy last week and this is all weird that we followed the exact things.

[Guest Boya]

I'm in my 30s and keen to know more. Wonder will it cure my premature ejaculation? How to contact u?

For those who are interested to know the method, u can PM me in this forum for details. And yes, it can help premature ejaculation.

[fab]

For those who are interested to know the method, u can PM me in this forum for details. And yes, it can help premature ejaculation.

How to PM u when u r a guest?

Edited July 24, 2010 by fab

[Guest dragion]

I am interested, particularly with respect to premature ejeculation. thanks.

[tony_chaser70]

Can boya teach me too .like to learn too.can u add me .thx boys

[snowball]

if i am not wrong, Boya is a register member, believe he posted w/o logging in only

Edited July 24, 2010 by snowball

[Boya]

if i am not wrong, Boya is a register member, believe he posted w/o logging in only

Yes yes, thanks snowball. I am member. So just PM me your email and I will get back to you !

[Boya]

I will try to be as detail as possible in my description of practicing the "retention method". You can use pxxn or a real partner to help you to get aroused. It is not helpful to have anything inserted into your anus when practicing the PC pressure method for beginners. Try not to get to the "I'm cumming!" stage so quickly- get there slowly and gently. The reason for this is when that cumming feeling is aroused, the energy that is passing through your PC muscle area is extremely powerful and your job is to get your 3 fingers (with finger nails trimmed) to pressed hard againgst the base of your penis, but at the same time, your right hand still jerking gently on your shaft or dick head. This will be the hardest part for many beginners. They will end up leaking the semen.

For beginners, maybe you can stop jerking yourself at all when using doing the hard pressing. Then when you are more confident with more practice, then you can do both at the same time. Now, where exactly is this PC muscle area? Use your 2or 3 fingers to gently press against the area between along the base of your balls and the anus. This area is very very close to the anus where you can feel a very soft indentation along that line. Do not press higher than that because if you found the wrong spot higher than this area, the semen will leak inwards into your bladder when you ejaculate. You would think that you are successful because you din see any semen but actually when you urinate, you will see lots of bubbles in the toilet. Tat means you have failed.

How do you know if you have succeeded? Besides having clear urine without bubbles after using this method, you should also experience a tinkling feeling that rushes to your head. This feeling is akin to sometimes when you hold your urine for too long and then you found a toilet finally to relieve yourself, you get that rush of tinkling feeling through to the top of your head and you go "Shiok" feeling! Then you know you got it !

After "cummin" with your 3 finger firmly pressed against your PC muscle area, try to clench your anus muscle as if you need to urinate but cannot find the toilet. The reason to do this is to prevent any residual "cummin" feeling for the semen to leak out into the urinary duct or inwards into the bladder.

[soxite]

I will try to be as detail as possible in my description of practicing the "retention method". You can use pxxn or a real partner to help you to get aroused. It is not helpful to have anything inserted into your anus when practicing the PC pressure method for beginners. Try not to get to the "I'm cumming!" stage so quickly- get there slowly and gently. The reason for this is when that cumming feeling is aroused, the energy that is passing through your PC muscle area is extremely powerful and your job is to get your 3 fingers (with finger nails trimmed) to pressed hard againgst the base of your penis, but at the same time, your right hand still jerking gently on your shaft or dick head. This will be the hardest part for many beginners. They will end up leaking the semen.

For beginners, maybe you can stop jerking yourself at all when using doing the hard pressing. Then when you are more confident with more practice, then you can do both at the same time. Now, where exactly is this PC muscle area? Use your 2or 3 fingers to gently press against the area between along the base of your balls and the anus. This area is very very close to the anus where you can feel a very soft indentation along that line. Do not press higher than that because if you found the wrong spot higher than this area, the semen will leak inwards into your bladder when you ejaculate. You would think that you are successful because you din see any semen but actually when you urinate, you will see lots of bubbles in the toilet. Tat means you have failed.

How do you know if you have succeeded? Besides having clear urine without bubbles after using this method, you should also experience a tinkling feeling that rushes to your head. This feeling is akin to sometimes when you hold your urine for too long and then you found a toilet finally to relieve yourself, you get that rush of tinkling feeling through to the top of your head and you go "Shiok" feeling! Then you know you got it !

After "cummin" with your 3 finger firmly pressed against your PC muscle area, try to clench your anus muscle as if you need to urinate but cannot find the toilet. The reason to do this is to prevent any residual "cummin" feeling for the semen to leak out into the urinary duct or inwards into the bladder.

He he, I tried over the weekend before reading this post ... not sure if I did it correctly since I am a beginner ... in the end did have a bit of semen flowing out ... didn't check the urine though ... might not have been totally successful ... but will try again soon. But after that weekend, I felt my erection a bit harder then usual ... Mmm ...

[hmgen]

Could you elaborate more on how to find the correct spot? I'm sure many of us would like to try!

[permanent-guest]

Could you elaborate more on how to find the correct spot? I'm sure many of us would like to try!

The teachers here should take photos or videos of themselves or their models demonstrating these techniques and post them here, hehe

Edited July 26, 2010 by permanent-guest

[fab]

what does PC stand for? If it doesnt, what does it refer to or mean?

[Guest yanzi]

I will try to be as detail as possible in my description of practicing the "retention method". You can use pxxn or a real partner to help you to get aroused. It is not helpful to have anything inserted into your anus when practicing the PC pressure method for beginners. Try not to get to the "I'm cumming!" stage so quickly- get there slowly and gently. The reason for this is when that cumming feeling is aroused, the energy that is passing through your PC muscle area is extremely powerful and your job is to get your 3 fingers (with finger nails trimmed) to pressed hard againgst the base of your penis, but at the same time, your right hand still jerking gently on your shaft or dick head. This will be the hardest part for many beginners. They will end up leaking the semen.

For beginners, maybe you can stop jerking yourself at all when using doing the hard pressing. Then when you are more confident with more practice, then you can do both at the same time. Now, where exactly is this PC muscle area? Use your 2or 3 fingers to gently press against the area between along the base of your balls and the anus. This area is very very close to the anus where you can feel a very soft indentation along that line. Do not press higher than that because if you found the wrong spot higher than this area, the semen will leak inwards into your bladder when you ejaculate. You would think that you are successful because you din see any semen but actually when you urinate, you will see lots of bubbles in the toilet. Tat means you have failed.

How do you know if you have succeeded? Besides having clear urine without bubbles after using this method, you should also experience a tinkling feeling that rushes to your head. This feeling is akin to sometimes when you hold your urine for too long and then you found a toilet finally to relieve yourself, you get that rush of tinkling feeling through to the top of your head and you go "Shiok" feeling! Then you know you got it !

After "cummin" with your 3 finger firmly pressed against your PC muscle area, try to clench your anus muscle as if you need to urinate but cannot find the toilet. The reason to do this is to prevent any residual "cummin" feeling for the semen to leak out into the urinary duct or inwards into the bladder.

Found this from the internet search, the Chinese version:

洪基《摄生总要》指出：“但觉欲泄，急退玉茎，按阴额，以右手三指于谷道前闸住，把一口气提上丹田，咽气一口，澄心定虑，不可动作，少顷将玉茎复振，依前扇鼓，若情动蹲身抽去玉茎，如忍大小便状，运气上升，自然不泄矣”。古人提出的抑阴囊后大脉，三指于谷道闸住，所指部位较现代医学稍后，而其受抑面积较单纯挤捏阴茎根部与龟头要大得多，且易于掌握，所谓“澄心定虑”实指控制心神、不使妄泄，来平抑亢阳。是法关键是掌握抑阴的时间，必须在情动之初。

[oriental]

I will try to be as detail as possible in my description of practicing the "retention method". You can use pxxn or a real partner to help you to get aroused. It is not helpful to have anything inserted into your anus when practicing the PC pressure method for beginners. Try not to get to the "I'm cumming!" stage so quickly- get there slowly and gently. The reason for this is when that cumming feeling is aroused, the energy that is passing through your PC muscle area is extremely powerful and your job is to get your 3 fingers (with finger nails trimmed) to pressed hard againgst the base of your penis, but at the same time, your right hand still jerking gently on your shaft or dick head. This will be the hardest part for many beginners. They will end up leaking the semen.

For beginners, maybe you can stop jerking yourself at all when using doing the hard pressing. Then when you are more confident with more practice, then you can do both at the same time. Now, where exactly is this PC muscle area? Use your 2or 3 fingers to gently press against the area between along the base of your balls and the anus. This area is very very close to the anus where you can feel a very soft indentation along that line. Do not press higher than that because if you found the wrong spot higher than this area, the semen will leak inwards into your bladder when you ejaculate. You would think that you are successful because you din see any semen but actually when you urinate, you will see lots of bubbles in the toilet. Tat means you have failed.

How do you know if you have succeeded? Besides having clear urine without bubbles after using this method, you should also experience a tinkling feeling that rushes to your head. This feeling is akin to sometimes when you hold your urine for too long and then you found a toilet finally to relieve yourself, you get that rush of tinkling feeling through to the top of your head and you go "Shiok" feeling! Then you know you got it !

After "cummin" with your 3 finger firmly pressed against your PC muscle area, try to clench your anus muscle as if you need to urinate but cannot find the toilet. The reason to do this is to prevent any residual "cummin" feeling for the semen to leak out into the urinary duct or inwards into the bladder.

hi there, mind to teach ?

[airbin]

The instructions are actually pretty clear. I tired and it worked. There was no ejaculation. The orgasm felt normal but was not fantastic. In my opinion, it is even less pleasurable than a normal orgasm because you don't feel something shooting out. But it was definitely easier to clean up

[Boya]

The instructions are actually pretty clear. I tired and it worked. There was no ejaculation. The orgasm felt normal but was not fantastic. In my opinion, it is even less pleasurable than a normal orgasm because you don't feel something shooting out. But it was definitely easier to clean up

Yes its true that beginners dun feel too much pleasure compared to the real shooting out experience. But if one continues to excite the penis by jerking it up and down gently, while still maintaining the pressure press on the PC spot, then one can actually prolong the "cumming" feeling, until you get a tingling rush through to your head. If one can do this without ejaculating and having bubbles in your urine thereafter, tat means one has succeeded in the "burning the semen to recharge oneself" method, as described in The Secrets of the Golden Flower !

[bluesea78]

heard of this method yet to give it a shot

[Guest surelyugessian]

doesn't semen retention create potential prostate cancer problem?

that's what a sufferer told me.

for years, he persisted being penal retentive.

[Guest dimitri]

Heyy i have a question when i was younger i used to masterbate alot since 19 iv stop mainly 1 time a week but i heard thats still bad.. im pursuing basketball so i try not to do it at all .i last boutv 20 days but my question is sometimes i precum without ejuculation does that waist energy because i wanna keep it for basketball

[Guest BlackAce]

Hello experts,

 

I came across this thread & find it very interesting and practical to apply & verify its results.

 

I agree with the overall fuzzy feeling of warmness, flow & vitality coarsing thru the organ & also mind, but seriously..HOW to stop the cum from oozing out? Tried it twice over the last 3days; indeed initially it was "dry" ejaculation & great sensation, but still the fluid slowly trickles out. How to make it backflow automatically hah?

 

At the 1st signs of impending ejaculation, do we immediately cease any further acts of stroking/stimulation, and enjoy the "throttling" sensation? Cos it takes only 2-3 secs from the moment of pre-ejaculation to eventual fluid eruption. Very little time to prevent it. Do we press the PC muscle area instantaneously harder, or allow intermittent pressure application thruout the entire process?

 

Thanks for all your expert tips & I look fwd to practising a more chi-saving, masturbation technique

 

Take care & jack-on, everyone!

[darkflame]

5 Surprising Health Benefits of Semen Retention!

POSTED ON APRIL 14, 2012 BY DEVI WARD

http://deviward.me/2012/04/14/5-surprising-benefits-of-semen-retention/

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There is quite a lot of controversy these days regarding the benefits of frequent ejaculation vs. semen retention.

A recent study suggests that frequent ejaculation may prevent men from developing prostate cancer, though there does seem to be some question regarding the validity of the results, as men in their forties and fifties were asked to recall ejaculation frequency during their twenties.

Some researchers doubt the accuracy of the mens’ reports, given the significant length of time that had passed between their actual sexual activity, and the questionnaire.

The study also fails to take into account major contributing health factors such as diet, exercises, weight, alcohol & drug habits. Keep in mind as well, that this is the same western medical society that does not acknowledge the existence of the female g-spot.

(Having myself supported many women in the successful reawakening of their g-spot, I tend to take sexual “studies” by western medicine with a grain of salt.)

Sadly, there are very few articles written about the concrete, tangible, mental, emotional, and physiological benefits of semen retention on a man’s health. I know many men who practice the art of semen retention, and rave about the benefits, and one student went so far as to write a personal testimonial about the beneficial effects of semen retention.

Due to my profession, I regularly witness the radically positive and life transformative effects that semen retention has on men, and their partners.

Below are 5 concrete, tangible, mental, emotional, and physiological benefits of regular semen retention for men, that are personally & scientifically verifiable. *Links to the sources are provided within the content.

#1) Sexual Stamina- Lasting longer is a topic that is near and dear to the heart of many men. The first aspect of semen retention for men, is simply learning to control involuntary ejaculation. By using Authentic Tantric semen retention methods, men can learn to manage their sexual response, and condition their bodies so that sexual stimulation can last for as long as they choose.

This contributes to the mental and emotional health of a man by giving him a sense of personal empowerment in regards to his sexuality, and a deeper sense of self-confidence, knowing that he can sexually satisfy his partner.

#2) The Multi-Orgasmic Man– Men are capable of being just as multi-orgasmic as any woman, but not if they ejaculate! As we all know, men generally roll over and fall asleep after their first ejaculation, with a few rare men being able to rally for a second or third round. But with the correct application of semen retention methods, men can have full, whole -body, multiple orgasms, with each one rolling continuously into the next. (Keep in mind that orgasm & ejaculation are actually 2 separate functions of the nervous system.) Some of these orgasms can last for several minutes (We recently filmed Authentic Tantra™ Educator, Jacques Drouinhaving a 2:33 minute orgasm!)

#3) Increased Sex Drive– A fairly recent study from China shows that Semen Retention Increases Testosterone Levels by 45.7% after 7 days! Wow! Testosterone is intricately linked to sex drive & sexual response in men. According to Daniel Reid, Author of “The Tao of Health Sex & Longevity” -‘ Semen essence is the fuel that drives male sexuality. It is the source not only of physical capacity for sex, but also of sexual interest and emotional affection for the opposite gender.’

Thus – ‘A man who maintains consistently high levels of testosterone, sperm, semen, and other male essences by practicing ejaculatory control will experience an overwhelming enhancement in his love and affection for his woman. He will also gain the capacity to act upon that loving urge over and over again.’ Good news for your partner!

#4) Physical Vitality- It is a well known fact that high performance athletes are discouraged from sexual activity the night or morning before a big game. This is due to the noticeable sensation of physical depletion that usually follows an ejaculatory orgasm. This may be due to the high concentration of vital essences found in semen. 

“An ounce of semen is considered to be equal in value to sixty ounces of blood, of which it constitutes an extract of some of its most valuable of constituents.” In Tibetan medicine, it is said that “seven drops of the vital essence of food are required to produce one drop of the vital essence of blood. And it takes one cup of the vital essence of blood to produce one drop of the vital essence of semen.” By this measure, semen is literally more precious than blood!

*With this being the case, I find it interesting that men & women are only able to donate blood once every 6 weeks, yet it is considered normal and “healthy” in western medicine & sexology for a man to ejaculate as often as every day!

Some men have also remarked upon noticeable differences in relationship to weight lifting and body building due to the practice of semen retention. One man remarks “I’m trying to understand how I gained 30lb’s muscle “only” after I stopped ejaculating during sex and relished in the orgasm alone? Yes, It makes the sex last longer (hours) – – but the real benefit besides satisfying the women is enhanced physique, body, and mental agility.”

#5) Mental Clarity- Dr. Raymond W. Bernard MD recently stated in the article ‘Science Discovers the Physiological Value of Continence’; “Semen contains substances of high physiological value, especially in relation to the nutrition of the brain and nervous system.”

This same article states “There is a remarkable similarity of chemical composition between the semen and the central nervous system, both being especially rich in lecithin, cholesterin and phosphorus compounds, which would indicate that seminal emissions withdraw from the body substances necessary for the nutrition of nervous tissues.”

Ancient Taoists have proclaimed the benefits of semen retention for male health & longevity forcenturies. Taoist Sexual Master Mantak Chia has stated that when men retain their semen during sexual activity, their brain energy increases 2x’s!

All of this being said, it is important for men to ejaculate sometimes. Obviously if you are attempting to conceive a child, there will be some periods when it is necessary to ejaculate with a degree of frequency. But even at those times, it is recommended by experts to refrain from frequent ejaculation between lovemaking sessions.

Natural Health Consultant, Jacques Drouin, and Founder of Authentic Tantra™, recommends an ejaculation frequency of once every 6 weeks for his male students, over the age of 35. He says that “initially it takes a good 6 weeks for the body to begin to regenerate after a lifetime of chronic, unregulated ejaculation, and for male power to really begin to build.”

 

[LongCurious]

After many years(couple of years) of research, i do injaculation, only ejaculating once or twice a week. I have grown to like the taste of my juices since i am young. Injaculation allows me to be able get hard within 15-30 minutes. I get approx 70% of the pleasure i get from ejaculating. So in a way, not ejaculating i manage to keep the semen in my body(no energy loss) and able to go again, be it for masturbation purpose(injaculate 5 times over a span of 2 hours is normal, if i have the time), to keep my energy(for work and other), or to impress my partner.

 

Do note after injaculation, some of your semen may still spurt out, which will allow your precum to bring it to the surface, thus its always safe to wear protection.

 

The spot would be located just below the anus, on your scrotum. You need to press it with 2finger(trial and error) and locate it during ejaculation, i tried several times until i succeed.

Do also be reminded, you need to make sure your muscles down there are strengthened enough through kegels exercises.

Base on my research, as you ejaculate*, there is pressure, by forcing your semen to go back you may rupture a blood vessel while doing this, which will end up bruised and pain for weeks before it go away. I however have not encounter this before, as i am a careful person, i did kegels for 2 weeks before i started trying out injaculation.

 

Other notes on what is sex without ejaculation, well again, what is your definition of sex? Satisfied physical pleasure through intimacy with ejaculation? It can be anything.

IMO, as long you are satisfied, physical pleasure through intimacy thats good enough for me to be counted as sex

[Guest wozzit]

During puberty, a boy sperm productivity is high, he can afford to masterbate and cum daily.

During 30s, sperm production stabled, can enjoy sex daily, but cum maybe 3 times/ wk?

After 40s, sperm production reduced (depending on one's fitness ) can have sex daily, but cum max 1/ wk.

Beyond 50s, cum once/ 2 wks...

Respect our body and don't strain beyond it's limits.

Just noticed this thread n want to repeat GachiMuchi's point. To suggest u can only cum max 1/wk in ur 40s and once every 2 wks in ur 50s is, frankly, nonsense!! U can cum daily in ur 50s if u want. The only difference in my experience is there will b less volume than in ur 20s n 30s.

[Guest Guest]

I don't have to be a scientist to know this semen retention thingy sounds like hogwash.

[Guest harmonious]

hey. I've been retaining for 34 days now. In these 34 days I still masturbate but never come anywhere close to the point of no return. Actually technically it's masturbating but really the main goal is to do lengthinging thickening and strengthening exercises. I reccomend to everyone to always stay as far away from the point of no return as you can. When you feel like you are about to cum and you squeeze your pc to stop it this can cause cancer and you will inevitably leak out the good white stuff. It will trickle out accidentally sooner or later. Practice staying far far away from ejaculating while doing pc squeezes anytime throughout the day and watch your sexual stamina sky rocket. Other notes: From retaining I feel unstoppable motivated inspired and happier than I've ever felt in my life. Higher testosterone levels faster facial hair growth. Slower hair loss and seemingly unlimited energy. More focus and countless other benefits. With my method no blue balls or increased irritability or agitation. I recommend sperm retention to everyone. Just make sure you workout a lot while retaining. Namaste.

[infinityx]

I had an experience in Thailand when i went for a colema colon cleansing retreat.

Arranged a Chi Nan Tsang treatment where this lady uses massage to move the internal organs back into proper position so that the chi within the body is able to circulate well.

 

While naked, she also hold the soft spot as some has mentioned above and something else which she did i had forgotten. A very distinct heat arises near where she held and it moves rapidly up my spine and around my body making me feel really energised and alert.

 

There wasn't any form of massage on the penis or erection involved. Purely accessing energy points of the body, moving the organs back into position.

 

I did now remember she held the testicles in certain way briefly.

 

It was authentic, relaxing and certainly energetically uplifting experience.

Edited October 28, 2015 by infinityx

[Bpfjar]

I have a friend. His a call boy. And I ask him how he can hold since if he release then he end up very little clients.

His secret is when urinating he practice to stop and count ten seconds and then pass urine again then stop again. So it as many intervals as possible. That is his secret. I tried to practice it but sometimes I get lazy and bored doing it. But at least I can hold a bit longer now